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How likely do you think an ATT Nexus is?

which carrier do you think is better......

At&t is the least "Android friendly" carrier so I would kind of be surprised. I know in the 3+ years I had them I hated every minute of it. I am soo happy with VZW and will never go back. I also know that this is only my experience and reception differs through out the country, but in Northern AL VZW is the only carrier worth having if you actually want a working device - I have full coverage and LTE almost everywhere I go. With At&t I had a bar and edge. Doesnt At&t have LTE in like 12 major cities only? What is the point?
EDIT: Yes VZW is more expensive but its worth it to me to actually be able to use my phone.

I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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Mrglass86 said:
I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.

I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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Nah, Verizon never did that. They like to bloat things up, but they do not lockdown sideloading or anything like that. Nor do they use CIQ like Sprint does on some of their devices.

adrynalyne said:
For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.
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^^THIS^^
AND THEN.. You have AT&T disabling HSPA on their Android phones but leaving it enabled on the iDevices, all the time marketing their Androids as HSPA CAPABLE. They are unethical liars.
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I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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VZW never prevented sideloading.

well i appreciate the clarity, i guess as having a decent selection of androids to me made me feel that way,
ANYWAYS do we have any input on the topic? i feel like some people dont care, but we are talking about an awesome phone being offered to people at a lower cost, sim card use in america with a faster radio and possibly more storage, and a 1 year warranty in america, im not sure if att would even have the ability to hamper the nexus experience with this so does anyone care or do we just want to hate ATT?

T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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I pay the premium to actually have reception, Tmo & Att have none in my area.. VZW has reception everywhere, and LTE everywhere too (in my area). VZW doesnt have "Android restrictions", and Ive never paid for tethering on any carrier nor will I - I get that for free.

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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Because T-mobile's service is garbage in a lot of places? Because they have unlimited data on Verizon? Because Verizon actually carries the Galaxy Nexus and there is no trouble getting warranty support?
There is actually a no service area for T-mobile within city limits here.

[Q] 4G speed with att GSM?

Yeah I am trying to figure out if I get an ATT gsm version would I get 4g speeds or would I be stuck with edge? I'm debating if I should do A trade or just go buy a nexus from google play.

You will probably get 3-5 mb/s in non congested area or non peak time. Some areas peak higher. But I wouldn't expect higher than 3 mb/s anytime. And in my area that is stretching it from 8a to 3p.
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I currently have an unlocked GSM version on ATT and I have seen some downloads as high as 8-9mbps down. I average around 3-5.
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An ATT specific version does not exist. The GSM Nexus sold in the google play store supports HSPA+ with both ATT and T-Mobile networks.

El Daddy said:
An ATT specific version does not exist. The GSM Nexus sold in the google play store supports HSPA+ with both ATT and T-Mobile networks.
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Oh ok, the guy in the thread said it was an AT&T variant thats why I asked, usually ATT phones only get edge or whatever.

Yeah most phones are that way. The galaxy nexus had a penta-band radio so it supports both.
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djdant said:
Oh ok, the guy in the thread said it was an AT&T variant thats why I asked, usually ATT phones only get edge or whatever.
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Huh? not sure what you mean by that... If you have an "AT&T" branded phone and put it on T-Mobile it'll get EDGE only. And vice-versa. There are plenty of unlocked phones that will get HSPA+ on AT&T though, they just have to support the right frequencies (most do).
The GNex supports EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+ on AT&T. You'll get full speeds that any other HSPA+ device will get on their network. You will not get LTE.
You'll also get full HSPA+ support on T-mobile.

it all depends where you live..
Yes you will get 4G ATT speeds on your galaxy nexus... But you wont get LTE Speeds since it don't have a LTE Radio
i can get 5-8Mbps down on a good day..
but i avg about 2.5-4mbps

Sprint 4G LTE is here!!

I looked at my notification bar and had full 4G bars. I couldn't believe it!
Edit: And full bars which I never got on regular 4G. I'm in San Antonio btw.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.

That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Hope I can lte here in marble falls... its a little bit away from Austin. at least a taste I don't need 33mbs at least 5 or so.
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chlehqls said:
Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.

martonikaj said:
Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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martonikaj said:
Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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You don't know what you're talking about.

Not getting any LTE in Houston yet

Good speeds, but the ping is about 3 times what I see with LTE on VZW

Smokeey said:
That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I haven't seen anyone else talking about the Sprint LTE. Have they just been testing it in different areas or have you seen official Sprint tests? I googled, but couldn't find anyone else talking about it. I'd be interested to see what other people's experience with it was, i.e. if it has been improving, signal strength, etc.
And sadly it lasted less than an hour. Luckily I caught it. But everything was extremely fast. It was awesome. If LTE gets full bars in my house I might consider getting rid of my internet...

Epix4G said:
Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.

Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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derekwilkinson said:
Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
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Neither am I
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Hows the signal in house or in building
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martonikaj said:
And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
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Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.

ckoadiyn said:
Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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I think Sprint could potentially do better than AT&T with their LTE rollout as AT&T seems to be going pretty slowly about it. However, VZW is lighting up more and more areas every few weeks, so I don't think anyone will catch them until VZW has started moving to another network standard. I have read that Sprint's LTE plans are very aggressive, so it could just be they are installing and testing the network in several large markets right now to turn on several cities all at once rather than just a small handful like AT&T did at the start.

reuthermonkey said:
When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).

I managed to get a weak signal in parts of the KC metro, probably coming from the area around the Sprint Campus in Overland Park. I may drive closer later today and see what kind of speed I can get.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653400
looks like alot of towers are becoming live pretty quickly. there is my thread from yesterday on it.

adrynalyne said:
Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
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Any word from those companies on when their current coverage will be covered in LTE?
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LTE I hope this isnt still the case.

http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125?ds=1
I hope this is something they are willing to work on, whats a flagship device without all the bells and whistles.
But then theres this, hopes are rising now.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57459728-85/verizon-t-mobile-swap-spectrum-for-mutual-lte-growth/
Thoughts?
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Lol this is long known... (well if you did some research before the phone)
Anyway not a matter to me. First I can't wait til next year to get the lte compatible s3 plus no one knows if they are gonna release a new version of s3. Second lte is fast but it eats up your data and battery. The hspa+ is fine to me.

Don't worry too much about T-Mobile LTE as it will probably wont be complete till either end of 2013 or sometime in 2014 if were lucky. Im banking more on their farming thats going to take place essentially will turn some of their 1.9 spectrum to support hspa+. As it stands they have great HSPA coverage and to me that what counts the most right now. Even verizons LTE isnt deployed everywhere and theyre still working on it. My friend has verizon s3 and yes he does get higher dl speed 20mb avg and I get about 10mb on hspa but i laugh when he cant get LTE in some areas where we hang out and i rub in his face that i still get hspa.
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rookiegenius said:
Lol this is long known... (well if you did some research before the phone)
Anyway not a matter to me. First I can't wait til next year to get the lte compatible s3 plus no one knows if they are gonna release a new version of s3. Second lte is fast but it eats up your data and battery. The hspa+ is fine to me.
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Personally I can't really complain about the network the way it is, I like the coverage I have because of the location I'm at I'm always on 4G so that's not the problem. I just think they should have added the support in the beginning because they knew about it before hand.

Seriously, with HSPA+ being what it is, I am in no hurry to get LTE. I switched over from the Sprint, and I love the way T-mobile's 4G currently works. I have a friend on Verizon and one on AT&T. Verizon LTE has more deadspots than T-mo's current offering and switching between their 3G and 4G is a pain, not to mention it kills battery. Verizon does beat us on download sometimes, and kills us on upload. But for the convenience of having 4G everywhere, T-mo is way better than advertised.
AT&T = Spotty 4G and much weaker HSPA+
Verizon = Much higher prices and still sometimes doesn't have LTE in all the places T-mo has 4G
Sprint = Crappy WiMax, very little LTE, and ABYSMAL 3G

bradleyw801 said:
Seriously, with HSPA+ being what it is, I am in no hurry to get LTE. I switched over from the Sprint, and I love the way T-mobile's 4G currently works. I have a friend on Verizon and one on AT&T. Verizon LTE has more deadspots than T-mo's current offering and switching between their 3G and 4G is a pain, not to mention it kills battery. Verizon does beat us on download sometimes, and kills us on upload. But for the convenience of having 4G everywhere, T-mo is way better than advertised.
AT&T = Spotty 4G and much weaker HSPA+
Verizon = Much higher prices and still sometimes doesn't have LTE in all the places T-mo has 4G
Sprint = Crappy WiMax, very little LTE, and ABYSMAL 3G
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Actually I changed my settings to GSM CDMA (PRL) AUTO and its been really good. Dial pad *#*#4636#*#*
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On the jelly bean leak it has LTE under netowork mode. Idk if TMO will take that out or not when they get to push out the firmware.

avengethis1 said:
On the jelly bean leak it has LTE under netowork mode. Idk if TMO will take that out or not when they get to push out the firmware.
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I heard about the leak too cant wait to install it tonight.
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Orical said:
I heard about the leak too cant wait to install it tonight.
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No WiFi calling in case you rely on it. And it'll wipe internal sd so make sure you back stuff up.
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bradleyw801 said:
Seriously, with HSPA+ being what it is, I am in no hurry to get LTE. I switched over from the Sprint, and I love the way T-mobile's 4G currently works. I have a friend on Verizon and one on AT&T. Verizon LTE has more deadspots than T-mo's current offering and switching between their 3G and 4G is a pain, not to mention it kills battery. Verizon does beat us on download sometimes, and kills us on upload. But for the convenience of having 4G everywhere, T-mo is way better than advertised.
AT&T = Spotty 4G and much weaker HSPA+
Verizon = Much higher prices and still sometimes doesn't have LTE in all the places T-mo has 4G
Sprint = Crappy WiMax, very little LTE, and ABYSMAL 3G
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Nice. Looks like there's a few of us that came from sprint. I wouldn't have switched if weren't for the s3. I had regrets switching at first but not anymore. Specially that we'll have unlimited data option come Sept 5th.
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On the jelly bean leak it has LTE under netowork mode. Idk if TMO will take that out or not when they get to push out the firmware.
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Just because it's there doesn't mean anything. This phone not having LTE isn't a big deal.
Though my downloads do get smoked in Chicago by Verizon LTE if I'm not using Touchwiz.

When I updated it didnt wipe internal sd card or external.v

bradleyw801 said:
Seriously, with HSPA+ being what it is, I am in no hurry to get LTE. I switched over from the Sprint, and I love the way T-mobile's 4G currently works. I have a friend on Verizon and one on AT&T. Verizon LTE has more deadspots than T-mo's current offering and switching between their 3G and 4G is a pain, not to mention it kills battery. Verizon does beat us on download sometimes, and kills us on upload. But for the convenience of having 4G everywhere, T-mo is way better than advertised.
AT&T = Spotty 4G and much weaker HSPA+
Verizon = Much higher prices and still sometimes doesn't have LTE in all the places T-mo has 4G
Sprint = Crappy WiMax, very little LTE, and ABYSMAL 3G
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I agree I had sprint too I can't wait to have unlimited back
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Orical said:
http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125?ds=1
I hope this is something they are willing to work on, whats a flagship device without all the bells and whistles.
But then theres this, hopes are rising now.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57459728-85/verizon-t-mobile-swap-spectrum-for-mutual-lte-growth/
Thoughts?
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If T-Mobile put out LTE tomorrow, it wouldn't matter with the T999. The T999 does not have the LTE chip or whatever needed to even pick up a LTE signal.
rookiegenius said:
Lol this is long known... (well if you did some research before the phone)
Anyway not a matter to me. First I can't wait til next year to get the lte compatible s3 plus no one knows if they are gonna release a new version of s3. Second lte is fast but it eats up your data and battery. The hspa+ is fine to me.
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How does LTE use more data? You mean to tell me that, because it's LTE, that a 5MB file will take up 10MB of data because it's LTE and that HPSA+ will download a 5MB file at exactly 5MB?

Will this phone work with T-Mobile HSPA+/4g?

I have an s3 but I may be getting this phone but I'm on T-Mobile network..I know with the gti9100 I had 4g wasn't possible.. but is it the same deal with this phone or did they make the phone compatible with every network? Thanks in advance.
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pezlomd said:
I have an s3 but I may be getting this phone but I'm on T-Mobile network..I know with the gti9100 I had 4g wasn't possible.. but is it the same deal with this phone or did they make the phone compatible with every network? Thanks in advance.
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I made the mistake of buying this phone assuming the same thing... Right now the international Note 2 will only get EDGE in the vast majority of places, because T-Mobile runs most of its 3G on the 1700 frequency which the N7100 doesn't support. T-Mobile is in the process of changing to 1900 (mostly for iPhone users), but who knows how long that'll take. I'm mostly fine with EDGE since I'm on WIFI a lot, but I definitely wish I had known before buying.

Riio said:
I made the mistake of buying this phone assuming the same thing... Right now the international Note 2 will only get EDGE in the vast majority of places, because T-Mobile runs most of its 3G on the 1700 frequency which the N7100 doesn't support. T-Mobile is in the process of changing to 1900 (mostly for iPhone users), but who knows how long that'll take. I'm mostly fine with EDGE since I'm on WIFI a lot, but I definitely wish I had known before buying.
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Thanks. I had the exact same question and you answered it perfectly. I was going to buy the GT-N7100 to use on T-Mobile, but if it only gets edge, I won't. Maybe it would work on another carrier, though, like AT&T straight-talk?

Just FYI, I do get HSPA+ while driving to work here in Northern VA although some sites suggest T-Mobile is work to upgrade their 850 to 1900. I do get pretty good speed (5Mbps down/2Mbps up). Check this site if you want to confirm your area but for sure it will work currently only on EDGE: http://www.airportal.de/
I just ordered a Straight Talk SIM card because I know lots of people have constant 3G/4G connection on it since it runs on AT&T. The only draw back with AT&T/Straight Talk is the prohibit unlimited international SMS which I use A LOT.

"E"??
Hi, I just got my N7100 yesterday and upon booting it up with a T-Mobile sim all I get is the "E" for edge network. Like you guys mentioned I guess this is normal for right now correct? Also do any of you get the "R" icon next to your signal strength bar? I opens up the "Roaming" page buddy and thinks I'm roaming. How do you get rid of this "R" icon or can you? Please help newbie here.
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John

glad i live in an area where we have the 1900mhz band. its faster than my ATT speed. with my gf tmobile sim i was getting 7mbps and with my att its like 3mbp
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Note2.. yep

i dont get it.. if your going to spend $600+ why not just get the T-Mo version?

YoungAceAtlanta said:
i dont get it.. if your going to spend $600+ why not just get the T-Mo version?
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Note2.. yep

Carrier branded versions of phones are often sim-locked and significantly slower to receive software updates. They're also more expensive in the long-run once you factor in the cost of a contract, even with the discounts. And carrier bloatware is usually a negative, too.
Is the T-Mobile Note II free of any of these disadvantages?

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Carrier branded versions of phones are often sim-locked and significantly slower to receive software updates. They're also more expensive in the long-run once you factor in the cost of a contract, even with the discounts. And carrier bloatware is usually a negative, too.
Is the T-Mobile Note II free of any of these disadvantages?
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:good::good: Couldn't have explained my reason better! Thanks!

strumcat said:
Carrier branded versions of phones are often sim-locked and significantly slower to receive software updates. They're also more expensive in the long-run once you factor in the cost of a contract, even with the discounts. And carrier bloatware is usually a negative, too.
Is the T-Mobile Note II free of any of these disadvantages?
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1.) SIM Unlocking is dirt cheap (even free sometimes).
2.) ROM upgrade availability is just as quick if not quicker if you use custom ROMS (and if you're on this site you likely know how to flash them).
3.) Carrier branded devices can be bought off contract.
4.) Carrier bloatware can be frozen and/or removed quite easily.
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