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I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum. This is a good way to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Samsung Epic 4G. This includes, but is not limited to, people that are providing the following:
- Roms & Kitchens
- Programs & Apps
- Fixes & Tweaks
- Skins & Themes
- Tips & Tricks
I would like to request the help from other members to keep the thread in order and in check. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question a billion times...
Please refer to the Wiki first before asking any questions though! It can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
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Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
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Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
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Unfortunately, we don't have anyone in the community who has inside access to that information. Some of our members are affiliated with Sprint, and so have slightly more reliable rumors, but even their sources have thus far been wrong if they quoted a specific date...
So I hope you understand that I'm not being a jerk when I say, we won't know until it actually happens (and this will probably always be the case)
That being said, this most recent leak (DK28) seems stable so far IMO, so it could potentially become our official update
ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
EDIT: Angry rant removed, thanks to the mods for a quick response (and to the member who's post was removed: no hard feelings, I hope you understand)
Just remember to read before posting, to make sure your post will be relevant and not redundant
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ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?
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Whenever flashing a ROM using either recovery, it's always a good idea to wipe the phone (as in factory reset - I'm not referring to wiping the cache or the dalvik cache, although both steps are also usually recommended)
If you used the odin method described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213
then you might have flashed the wrong tar - DK05 and DK17 both had the camera problem, make sure you have the DK28 file.
If you have the right tar, then you could have an incomplete download... I doubt that though, when that happened to me, my phone wouldn't boot at all. But you might want to redownload the tar just to be sure (double check the filesize after it finishes and before you flash, if it seems too small then it messed up again)
That's the best general advice I can offer, but if you'd like to provide more details about the method you used (especially a link to the guide you used, if it isn't the one I provided), someone here might be able to identify where you're going wrong
i followed the instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213. i didnt use odin, i just used the .zip method. it took me a lot of tries cause i kept getting errors. the second mirror link worked for me, but like i said, my camera, gps, gallery and some other apps dont work.
oh and everytime i try to flash again, i get the error.
It sounds like you're either starting from the wrong rom or not wiping the phone before flashing the zip. All of the zip updates I have seen require you to start from DI18 stock (root an clockwork seem to be okay in my experience, all other mods must be removed) - if you have installed any custom roms, your best bet is to follow the odin method using the stock DI18 tar - so you may as well just skip the zip methodand odin to the stock DK28 tar
And you absolutely must wipe the phone (again, factory reset - I suspect many people are just wiping the cache and/or the dalvik cache).
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Odin flashing
I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
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I've got a quick question. I'm looking to move to a build using the DK28 information release and it requires that I update the pit and modem files on my phone using Odin. Do I need to flash a 2.2 rom right away or am I safe to boot into my current rom first?
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Are you doing the strictly odin method (full froyo in a tar file)? Or an update.zip?
The odin method *should* include the modem and everything (and you use the updated pit in the same process) - you'll have to read the particular thread that you got the download link from, but I haven't noticed any odin tar files that required the modem separately
For the update.zip method, I don't know if it matters whether you flash the modem before or after applying the zip through recovery - I don't think either one overwrites the other, but that's a part of the process I can only guess about. But regardless of when you odin flash the modem, that's when you'll use the new pit file (the same as the odin-only method above).
As far as I know, the primary difference is that the update.zip doesn't inherently overwrite user data (but you'll probably have broken programs that FC all the time, which means a wipe is necessary, making this somewhat null). I prefer the odin method because it is a fresh flash of the entire system (I usually let it repartition as well - no one else has posted about that feature so I have no idea if it's a fluke that it hasn't given me problems)
Hope that helps
which is the best
so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
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How do I stop running applications from starting every time I restart my phone?? I have the start up auditor but for some reason everytime I restart my phone the apps I have disabled keep restarting themselves and I have to go into the running programs and disable them manually. WTH?? Doesnt programs constantly running in the background kill the battery life?? How do I disable apps from starting?
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How I understand it, especially with Froyo, you shouldn't have to kill programs in the background, if said 'background' process or service is working normal or efficiently. I still kill the DRM process when I reboot my phone, and not sure if it's still causing drain issues.
Also (someone else confirm this), I believe that constantly 'killing' certain background processes actually uses MORE battery, since it has to constantly restart itself. I've had a much more stable device *not* using auto killers, and just sniping one here and there that I know to cause drain.
Some reading material on GC, tho, in regards to memory management
Ignore me!
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so i have updated to dk28 froyo 2.2 i like battery life and performance can anyone offer info on which is the best rom for me or just some insight on which rom is the best overall
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A lot of it is personal preference - this early in the game, the primary differences between the roms are going to be mostly cosmetic. So for now, the best advice I can offer is to try each of them and decide which theme you like. Regardless of how you upgraded, you had to use odin, so you have succeeded at the most difficult step of the process - and odin can bring your phone back to life if something goes wrong, so it's an invaluable skill to have.
In the meantime, keep watching the threads (quietly, unless you have a question that hasn't been asked already - we're working on cleaning up the forum to make it easier for everyone to find answers... but I digress...)
It's too early to be sure of any of the fixes out there - we have at least three separate fixes for the GPS issues; some people find success with one, others with another, and a lucky few don't need the fixes at all... so in summary, we can't say which is better or worse just yet, stay tuned and decide whether you want to experiment on the bleeding edge, or wait for these things to be stable and thoroughly tested.
And if you have any doubts, just stick with the stock DK28 for now
tl;dr, questions in BOLD.
Okay, after spending the entire night scouring the internet/this forum and starting from absolutely zero-knowledge about the Android OS, I managed to update my Epic to 2.2, and root the phone. Now, I'm kinda stuck as far as customization goes. I see all these cool skins and battery life mods and stuff, but they don't exactly offer any steps as to how to install them. Since I don't exactly know what file-types do what, I'm kinda shooting blindly at trying to update/install something "custom" onto the phone. So, my question(s) is/are:
What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
I know the root basically "unlocks" your phone, but that's all I know. The process of customizing the phone still remains a mystery. (that's the problem with following step-by-step instructions, rather than actually knowing what you're doing.)
I also don't understand the purpose of flashing a phone. Flashing, in my experience is to update something, like say a BIOS. But that sets the system back to square 1 as far as all settings go, in this particular example.
If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?
Sorry if these are questions easily answered by searching, but I just spent my entire sleep-cycle trying to find the answers to these questions, and managed to only get so far. I look forward to the answers On another note, I am now EXTREEEEMELY pleased with my phone. Before this evening, I was just the regular, old run-of-the-mill enduser. I liked the cool built-in customizations and all the apps and what not, but never dreamed of being able to customize my phone to THIS EXTENT. So, now it's something I'm very interested in doing..it makes my phone truly mine.
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What does the ROM do?
What does the ROOT do?
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Did you see the link to the Wiki in the original post of this thread? That's where I started when I first got here, it helped me understand the basics.
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If I flash, with say Odin, after having updated to DK28 and "rooting," won't this make all the "customization" that I've done prior basically 'null' because I've just flashed the phone into a blank-state?.
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It depends on what you flashed with Odin. If you only flash a modem file, then your customizations and apps are untouched. If you flash an entire ROM in "tarball" form then not only does it re-write the modem but it also overwrites all user data. Think of the latter as resetting the phone to stock and works even if you cannot boot up.
When can we expect a custom Kernel with netfilters for wifi tethering?
n00b question.
If an SDK version is released (say, like, Gingerbread today), does that mean chefs could take it and cook up a ROM for ANY phone (say, like, the Epic)? Or do they need something else to do that?
Remove Touchwiz Launcher (consequences?)
Hey-- I'm using Quantum 2.0.0 ROM, and I never use the touchwiz launcher. Does anyone know if it's safe to just remove the apk? (TouchWiz30Launcher.apk) or is there other functionality tied to it?
I use LauncherPro, fyi.
Please forgive my ignorance... I've searched the forums, looked at the wiki...
I use titanium backup and am now running the DK27 froyo build by noobnl. My question... How do I restore my e-mail accounts to the phone everytime without having to re-type them in? I've been flashing a rom every other day on average since I got the phone and it's getting REALLY old.
I just recently got rid of my Epic for the EVO and was wondering about some things with ROM manager. I never really used it that much because all ROM's on the Epic were basically all suppose to be done by going straight to CW. I understand everything in general but my question is basically can I have a ROM like MikFroyo 4.4 installed on the phone and use ROM manager to download and install something like MYN's Rom without having to "return to stock"? Or is it best to return to stock before adding a different ROM/Kernel? I backed up my original stock ROM but was just curious since I want to try a bunch of ROM's. I know I really like the MikFroyo ROM but I usually can only last about 1 or 2 weeks with the same ROM before I need to flash something, LOL. Which is why I got rid of the Epic because the DEV community was very slim compared to the EVO's. Thanks in advance.
I've used ROM manager but I prefer to make sure I have a 100% clean slate before flashing. I download the rom, put it on my sdcard. Then I use "format all" by Calkin, then flash the downloaded ROM thru clockwork/annonRA. This way I am 100% sure everything was wiped as clean as possible before going into a new rom. ROM's like MIUI seem to have issues if you don't do it this method....
*shrug* for what its worth.
Sounds good to me.
A good wipe always works well but many have also flashed tons via Rom Manager with no issues. I have used it many times also with no issues. I'd say use it and if for some reason you end up getting a few f/c issues then reflash manually after wiping directly from recovery.
If good devs like Myn are going to take the time to have it listed in RM then might as well take advantage.
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A good wipe always works well but many have also flashed tons via Rom Manager with no issues. I have used it many times also with no issues. I'd say use it and if for some reason you end up getting a few f/c issues then reflash manually after wiping directly from recovery.
If good devs like Myn are going to take the time to have it listed in RM then might as well take advantage.
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While I do agree, I know for 100% sure if you don't format_all on MIUI you'll end up with random reboots; yes some still do no matter what but 99% of people the format_all cure 'em. That's enough proof for me to always follow this method -- better to be 100% safe and eliminate as many potential problems as possible. OP - either way will work... do what works best for you.
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A good wipe always works well but many have also flashed tons via Rom Manager with no issues. I have used it many times also with no issues. I'd say use it and if for some reason you end up getting a few f/c issues then reflash manually after wiping directly from recovery.
If good devs like Myn are going to take the time to have it listed in RM then might as well take advantage.
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This is that "because it's there, it works" mentality. Yes, ROM Manager is safe, however it is not the best method for installing ROMs. I agree with the above statement of Calkulin's format all. I won't flash a new ROM now without it, and I have noticed a performance increase
I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!
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I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!
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I am still running rooted stock. One of the ROMs that had K9 Mail wouldn't work for me on Exchange 2K10. You could also look at the # of posts in each of the threads, that may ID where most of the peeps are headed.
I really wanted to say that I hope you are doing better. My phone haxoring started with a long hospital stay back during the Razor days.
I do like LG's native e-mail client. Only Samsung's e-mail client is better.
scott0 said:
I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!
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I currently only used the Domination HD ROM, and it has its goods n bads.
the Goods:
1) Lag is virtually gone! Phone runs really smooth and fast, with almost no stuttering.
2) Some extra visual improvements, like the Roboto Fonts and ICS wallpapers included (although it didn't show up on mine for some reason)
3) ICS sounds/notifications
the Bads:
1) Video Recording (camcorder) is borked as for now. You cannot record a video, the app just freezes at 00:00:00
2) Bootup time is significantly longer (might be closer to 2-3 min bootup time) but someone said that it might be due to the deodexing of files in the phone.
3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
That's my small review on the Domination HD ROM. I might have missed something and if I did, hopefully the next person will add to it.
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I am still running rooted stock. One of the ROMs that had K9 Mail wouldn't work for me on Exchange 2K10. You could also look at the # of posts in each of the threads, that may ID where most of the peeps are headed.
I really wanted to say that I hope you are doing better. My phone haxoring started with a long hospital stay back during the Razor days.
I do like LG's native e-mail client. Only Samsung's e-mail client is better.
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hey thanks Amigo! I hope all is well with you now as well.
I took your advice and flashed the kernalpan1c ROM and am checking it out now.
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I currently only used the Domination HD ROM, and it has its goods n bads.
the Goods:
1) Lag is virtually gone! Phone runs really smooth and fast, with almost no stuttering.
2) Some extra visual improvements, like the Roboto Fonts and ICS wallpapers included (although it didn't show up on mine for some reason)
3) ICS sounds/notifications
the Bads:
1) Video Recording (camcorder) is borked as for now. You cannot record a video, the app just freezes at 00:00:00
2) Bootup time is significantly longer (might be closer to 2-3 min bootup time) but someone said that it might be due to the deodexing of files in the phone.
3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
That's my small review on the Domination HD ROM. I might have missed something and if I did, hopefully the next person will add to it.
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super, Thank you eh. nice. I really want to try this one too. I got the impression from following the thread that the video cam issue can't be resolved. Perhaps I read it wrong, I will go back through the posts. I too want that vid cam on this phone. But I am very curious about that Bravia engine and Xloud and if/how much they make a difference on my device.
I am liking the kernalpani1c ROM, it does seem smooth, I uninstalled the GO launcher, sticking with Zeam after comparing the 2 with the new ROM, Zeam is noticeably faster & smoother for me.
The best thing about the custom ROMs for me is I had to use Malninion's unbricking method to fix this phone several weeks ago which uses the SU640, now I am back to the proper one.
I think I'll check out that Domination ROM next.
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hey thanks Amigo! I hope all is well with you now as well.
I took your advice and flashed the kernalpan1c ROM and am checking it out now.
super, Thank you eh. nice. I really want to try this one too. I got the impression from following the thread that the video cam issue can't be resolved. Perhaps I read it wrong, I will go back through the posts. I too want that vid cam on this phone. But I am very curious about that Bravia engine and Xloud and if/how much they make a difference on my device.
I am liking the kernalpani1c ROM, it does seem smooth, I uninstalled the GO launcher, sticking with Zeam after comparing the 2 with the new ROM, Zeam is noticeably faster & smoother for me.
The best thing about the custom ROMs for me is I had to use Malninion's unbricking method to fix this phone several weeks ago which uses the SU640, now I am back to the proper one.
I think I'll check out that Domination ROM next.
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I might switch to kernelpanic's rom next week or so when I have the time to start fresh. I'm gonna format the /data partition so it will a be clean slate.
Well, like i've mentioned, me and some others don't really see any difference either the bravia engine or Xloud is doing to the phone. The image quality on the phone is the same, and the loudness is just as loud as stock. Shrugs, it might just be me I dont know lol. Feel free to try it and let us know what you think about it
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I might switch to kernelpanic's rom next week or so when I have the time to start fresh. I'm gonna format the /data partition so it will a be clean slate.
Well, like i've mentioned, me and some others don't really see any difference either the bravia engine or Xloud is doing to the phone. The image quality on the phone is the same, and the loudness is just as loud as stock. Shrugs, it might just be me I dont know lol. Feel free to try it and let us know what you think about it
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I was wondering about the clean slate starting fresh myself, does that make a difference?
I went to get the other ROMs and such but noticed their instructions were different than kernalpan1c, they did not state to clear caches and wipe system, etc so I stopped there.
so a question- it's safe and correct to always do the following 2 steps when flashing any ROM
3. Format /system in Mounts and Storage
4. Then "wipe cache partition" and "advanced > wipe dalvik cache"
thanks for the inputs
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3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
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why on earth would anybody need some st1nk'n bravia engine while there already is lg mobile engine in stock ROM? ther U go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3GSzOBuUo
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I was wondering about the clean slate starting fresh myself, does that make a difference?
I went to get the other ROMs and such but noticed their instructions were different than kernalpan1c, they did not state to clear caches and wipe system, etc so I stopped there.
so a question- it's safe and correct to always do the following 2 steps when flashing any ROM
3. Format /system in Mounts and Storage
4. Then "wipe cache partition" and "advanced > wipe dalvik cache"
thanks for the inputs
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So far from what I have followed, the 2 steps you've mentioned are safe to follow. The only thing they've all mentioned is: "DO NOT WIPE/FORMAT /Data Partition" Just making it big, bold and bright so you don't miss it LOL. Kernelpanic figured out that it is some kind of a glitch in CWM that causes data corruption when you wipe/format the /Data partition.
Domination's ROM also states to wipe /system and dalvik cache, it's a standard thing i'm guessing. The only reason I want to start from a clean slate is that I don't want any bugs or system clash when I flash a new ROM over an existing ROM, so I think wiping /data will be essential.
Btw, Kernelpanic has suggested that if you do need to wipe /data, to please first flash back LG's default recovery using the image you've backed up prior to flashing CWM on the phone, and then formatting the phone back to factory settings using it. When factory reset is complete (which means /data is also wiped), you can then flash back CWM and then flash the new ROM.
Hopefully this will help you decide on your steps. Again, wiping /data is not necessary at all, it's just an option that technically should be done but right now is not so safe to do. Be careful and as always, we are not responsible for a gorgeous brick on your desk lol.
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why on earth would anybody need some st1nk'n bravia engine while there already is lg mobile engine in stock ROM? ther U go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3GSzOBuUo
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I like that commercial lol. That is very informative and interesting to watch. Very true wat you said about the Bravia engine. Tbh, like I previously mentioned, I do not see any benefit of the Bravia engine on this phone, and definitely not the Xloud feature. Thus, I'm thinking of trying another ROM that has all capabilities functioning, thus the Camcorder.
Just wondering, if you truly can replace the "visual engine (e.g. LG's engine with Bravia Engine), could that be the reason why the camcorder won't work? It's kinda weird that the camera works but the recording function doesnt.
well,
i flashed the domination ROM and it installed, I poked around and decided I needed the video camera, so shut down, booted in to CWM and flashed the other ROM, it said it installed, i rebooted it would not open, stuck on boot, so i shutdown, booted into cwm and restored the 1st ROM but now i am stuck on a boot loop and cannot access cwm.
derp.
update: flashed the su640 ROM so I am back in biz, gotta root and flash CWM.
so i guess this is a fresh flash after all!
i'm at 32% batt, superoneclick does not want to root atm , letting it charge a bit and will try to reroot.
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well,
i flashed the domination ROM and it installed, I poked around and decided I needed the video camera, so shut down, booted in to CWM and flashed the other ROM, it said it installed, i rebooted it would not open, stuck on boot, so i shutdown, booted into cwm and restored the 1st ROM but now i am stuck on a boot loop and cannot access cwm.
derp.
update: flashed the su640 ROM so I am back in biz, gotta root and flash CWM.
so i guess this is a fresh flash after all!
i'm at 32% batt, superoneclick does not want to root atm , letting it charge a bit and will try to reroot.
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Yeah, that's what I feared, that when flashing another ROM over existing rom and not deleting /data might give an error. Which other Rom were you attempting to flash over Domination?
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Yeah, that's what I feared, that when flashing another ROM over existing rom and not deleting /data might give an error. Which other Rom were you attempting to flash over Domination?
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was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.
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was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.
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Damn, seems like there is still some figuring out to do. A lot of the troubles keep pointing to CWM. What did you tell AT&T to get them to send you a warranted phone?
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Damn, seems like there is still some figuring out to do. A lot of the troubles keep pointing to CWM. What did you tell AT&T to get them to send you a warranted phone?
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i told them the phone was stuck on the LG boot screen and it would not turn off entirely. if I hold the power button down long enough the screen would flash off but it would instantly reboot itself again. the phone did finally fully boot to the su640 ROM but no data/internet access. then they had me do a factory reset which failed as well, after the reset the phone would still boot to main screen instead of to the setup screen.
It was a long telephone call. but ultimately I was transferred to the warranty dept, the 1st tech agent filled that warranty person in who then just checked a cople things and then agreed to ship me a replacement expedited, scheduled delivery is Monday.
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was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.
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So out of all the 3 ROMs you've tried which one did you like the most? Well, of course the rebelrom doesn't count cuz it borked your phone lol. Sorry to hear that though. I had this bad feeling when you mentioned that it froze after flashing that you flashed rebelrom, and yup that's what you did lol. Didn't you read through the thread though? Many of them got stuck in boot loops and not being able to recover after it.
yes, of course I read through the thread. I had the time to read through all the threads many times and did, even jotted notes down. I was fully aware of the risks involved and don't recall *****ing. I am patiently awaiting my replacement phone generously provided by ATT.
my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.
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my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.
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I will say upfront to anyone looking at using my ROM, it is a de-odexed ROM minus bloat, a better launcher, some optimizations (ie ICS app process and system server, build.prop tweaks), and the carrier text removed from the status bar. With that said, de-odexed does run smoother than stock (odexed). CF-Bench scores are for example higher on my ROM than on stock.
We're not going to see dramatic speed improvements past that without custom kernels or CM/AOSP.
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yes, of course I read through the thread. I had the time to read through all the threads many times and did, even jotted notes down. I was fully aware of the risks involved and don't recall *****ing. I am patiently awaiting my replacement phone generously provided by ATT.
my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.
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lol scott, I never said anywhere that you were *****ing about bricking. I was just wondering why try when you know you have 80% of bricking? But anyways, it's great that you are getting a replacement from AT&T.
I'm currently running GB El29 and am looking to update. I've done a lot of reading around the forum, the wiki, and a few other websites, and I'd just like a little bit of clarification. I figure I'd ask now, before doing anything, as opposed to asking later, after something's gone wrong.
Looking at the Wiki, I was considering updating to Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.6, or unrooting and then waiting for the Official ICS update (it was rerolled today, apparently.) Or, to Blazer, but I'm not sure if going to the ICS version or GB version is best.
My question - The process to update - Nandroid, Flash Format All, Flash Rom, Success? I've noticed a lot of installs say to "Wipe All", and I assume that's what Flashing Format All does, correct? I just don't want to mess up - I had no problems rooting, following that guide I mentioned, and I've done a lot of reading...I just want to confirm before doing anything. I mean, I know, wipe delvic and clear cache, but Format All does that, correct?
I rooted my phone using "How to Root Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch! [NEW][SPH-D710]" rom Epic4gtouchroot.com. I'd post a link, but I've fewer than 10 posts. All I've done, outside of root, is install the Beats sound files. That's really it.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Read this 10 times over then you should be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
If you are interested in certin roms read threw the rom post to see if people have already answerd the questions you seek. Some devs request you flash different ways so read the OP in the post of the roms you are considering
UnOfficial
Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
Pp.
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Read this once, stay with gingerbread, try Calks E4GT V. 3.0 YOU won't regret it.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking of going with. I've read over his topic several times, and even though I'm really not a fan of the transparent notification tray, most of the included mods sound really, really useful. Thanks for the heads up.
And thank you too, jugaloo. I actually have that page bookmarked on my phone lol. I've already made several nandroid backups - I plan on making a titanium backup in a moment. My only concern now is th process from going from El29 GB to E4GT 3. Rereading that thread several times has me wondering - I download the ROM, place it on the SD, boot into recovery, clear delvic and cache, run Format all, then install the ROM, correct? I already have a nandroid backup, so in case anything here goes wrong, I can just flash the backup back on, correct?
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I just run the format x2 script made by ruj in the blu kuban thread. Then i follow the devs op to install. From what i see you have your feet planted and ur about to make that plunge. Id take the next step and try the flash. Id go with a different rom the the fe22 is out of date and calk has moved on. Try blu kubans rom its super stable and ita built from source. I myself like gb better.
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I was thinking that - Calk's topic was updated in May, while blukuban was updated in February. I mean, I can always try both, right? I'd like to go with Calk's first, then try blukuban, only because BK is heavily themed. But either way, thanks!
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I didn't realize the blukuban thread had updates outside of the OP. It was very recently updated. I might check that one out first.
Yes the blu kuban ics is always up todate and he is there for the people. If you want ics builds that are more stockish id aokp they have theming going on but is nice and stable. Read all of the op and there sites for correct install. Cm9 alpha 6 is also really good. Blazers rom is also really good. Those are all stockish built from source. For gb roms id go with either calks 3.0 or UnOfifcials ics gb rom. For me gb gives me most bang for battery and bandwith. Those last two roms are highly recomended. Calks is super fast stock with options for themes. Unofficial gb ics is themed lightly and is very good for battery and the animations are nice
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Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.
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Alright, awesome. Waiting for my battery to finish charging (my phone reset while performing a titanium backup, and the battery life dropped from 44 to 9, so I'm getting it back up to at least 50.)
So just to recap
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To Install
Boot to recovery
Make a NAND Backup
Wipe Phone (Format All/wipe delvic/wipe cache)
Install ROM
Right? That's what Blukuban's install requires, and Calk's doesn't have any special instructions, outside of " a wipe is recommended BEFORE flashing if coming from another ROM", which is what the Format All is for, correct?
You've been insanely helpful. Thank you so much! I'm also looking into UnOfficial (it's not on the Wiki, so I didn't really know about it until you mentioned it.)
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Charge the bartery more. Use a wipe script dont touch the fomat that is built into the cwm while flashing a ics rom. If you use the wipe x2 script found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25448865
U should be good. It wipes everythings even both of the caches twice. If you already have a newer nandroid id just go with that instead of making a new one everytime you flash. If possible download the roms to pc check the md5 check sums make sure they match. If they match transfer to the phone. When downloading to the phone it has a higher chance of a bad download. I try and flash at 75% battery incase of error and you have to restore a previous nandroid. If you want read this post about the eMMc bug. Most roms are safe now but some are not current.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
Not trying to scare you with that last link you should know about it before hand so you know the dangers of flashing a non safe ics roms. If you have any more queations shoot. But i think your good to go
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One more thing. Qbking27 has install video guides for 90% of the roms in the threads of the rom. Id watch those before installing that rom you want. Some times they are buried in the op. You can use them as a step by step as you install. Best if luck to you and i want a report once you get your new custom rom on your phone.
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You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.
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You got it!
I'm doing a GB build - from what I've come across, GB just gets better battery life, and I just feel more comfortable using it. At least, until the official ICS rolls out from Samsung. If that one is well received, and it's worth it, I'll unroot/wipe fresh and try it out.
That being said though, I'll use x2 then. Will it matter if I do both, just for good, measure? (Both x2 and FormatAll)
And yes, I'll be downloading to PC first, then transferring. I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I'll be doing Calk's 3.0 first, and if I don't like it, I'll try either Unofficial or BluKuban.
And once it's done charging more, and I perform the install, I'll report back, with a screenshot or two as well.
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Just use the wipe x2 that does everything you need. Blu kubans gb rom is good but wifi is whacky. Id go with his ics build. Well your set good luck!
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Alright so, I installed it, and all is working well. It's actually a bit...erm, slow? Whenever I swipe from screen to screen on the homepage it's a bit laggish. But it works! I'll run around with it for a little while and see how it works. I'm in the process of reinstalling my older apps, updating my contacts and such.
Thanks for all of your help!
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A little worried, to be honest. Some of the apps I'm trying to install is giving me the "Package file is invalid" error off of the Google Market. Dropbox, Amazon, etc. Not sure what to make of it, to be honest.
Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
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Try and clear the cache for the market. If your using tb try to unmount the sd card if that dont work do fresh installs off the market place . Also go into recovery and clear the cache and dalvik.
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Done. I cleared both caches, and so far, all of the problems I've had with the market is gone. (Dropbox didn't install on the first try, but it did after the second.)
I've replaced the default touchwiz interface with Launcher Pro (TW was running wicked slow - loads of lag with just basic scrolling) and it seems to be running well. And it's definitely saving on battery life.)
That being said, it's not really my cup of tea. I restored my contacts and such, but eh. I think I'll try UnOfficial, and if it's not better, either go back to el29 or update to official ics.
I'll likely keep this one until tomorrow. You've been such a huge help. Thank you so much.
Actually, with launcher pro replacing it, this is pretty good. I want to mess with it more. I'll run it for a few days and see how it fairs.
Ok wait before everyone leaves, Ive got some questions too!
I just got my replacement(after a hard brick trying JB) and figure Id ask my questions in this thread rather than starting a new one..
1. Ive decided to odin EL29 EVERY TIME I want to flash a new rom, just to be safe. If I use CMW with EL29 and decide to try out CM9, Do I always need to flash a aokp kernel? Or is that built into the CM9 install?
2. If I like CM9, and want to make a nandroid backup of it, do I need to Odin back to EL29 first to back it up? Or is it safe to do it with the recovery that comes with CM9?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, meaning I do have to odin back to EL29, how do I restore my backup? Let me explain:
Lets say I flash CM9, make a nandroid of CM9, then decide to try out say a different rom, like a TW rom. Then I hate the TW rom and wanna restore my backup of CM9. Do I need to ODIN back to EL29 to restore the nandroid? I read in the "how not to brick my..." thread its bad to restore a ICS rom from a GB Kernel. Can someone please explain?
Ive really, really tried to search and read as much as possible before asking, but a lot of the threads are old and have contradicting information. Sorry for being so noobish, but I dont wanna brick my new phone. I come from Evo, Evo3d, Hp Touchpad, etc, where there arent as many issues to flash customs roms. Ive rooted and flashed custom roms ever since the PPC6600, 100's of times and NEVER had a problem. Sorry, this just really confuses me for some reason!!!
Can't help you with CM9 or AOKP because I've never tried either one. The OP was talking about launcher pro. I highly recommend Nova launcher or Apex. They are both specifically built for ICS and look and act like stock android with great customization features.
Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.
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Was going to make another topic, but I thought I'd ask here first
- The notification tray in this rom (Calk 3.0) is transparent, and I'm not fond of the icons in the Notification Tray. I tried using Rom Tool Box lite to change it, but the tray won't change, no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried before - it just won't change.
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I don't mess with rom tool box. I hear good and bad things about it. If you start at page 1080 and read to the end people post new system ui's but it may theme it a little bit. They have blazers UI in there and one other one I think. I'm not sure it is transparent or not. Or even make a post in the thread about it. I know its still active and you may find your answer. Sorry I can't really help you on this.
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Alright, cool. Thanks a lot. You wouldn't happen to have the link to that thread, would you? I've searched, and I'm a bit lost. Sorry for the trouble.
I am going to root my phone and have a few questions before I do. I am coming from a sensation and with the htc I only had 1 way to root so are any of the methods better or worse than others? I was planning on using to root injected stock rom method.
Secondly, I've read and still don't understand, could somebody explain the loss of imei to me? Htc doesn't have anything like that so I am confused about the backup of it?
Finally, could somebody suggest a good starting point for a rom and kernel combo? Unlike my htc I'm pretty happy with the stock rom sped and battery. I mainly want to tweak the looks of things a little, maybe a new battery icon and moving the clock position.
Best way to root is the video in my signature (use my files, too). It's easier and faster than the way you describe. I wish people would forget that stupid flash counter exists. It's not like we can't reset it.
Loss of IMEI very rarely happens when you flash. But, once you flash CM10, just run the terminal emulator that comes with it: su > reboot nvbackup. Now your IMEI is backed up, and you are protected against possible, but unlikely, loss. I've flashed every day for two months and never lost mine.
Rom: Why use ICS when you can use JB? IMO, the sole reason to use an ICS build is wifi calling. Use CM10. Use the stock CM kernel. CM doesn't have center clock (AOKP does), but IMO, CM is the better of the two. A lot of people like to flash custom kernels. They usually provide marginally better battery life, overclocking/undervolting, etc. I feel that none of these are necessary. There is an additional problem that the 3rd party kernels always lag behind CM's kernel merges, also. This typically results bootloops. So make sure the kernel you flash (if you do), is compatible with the newest CM build.
No the method does not matter, root is root. Read about them and use the one you are comfortable with.
Yes, HTC does have IMEI. All GSM phones do. It is basically the serial number your phone uses to connect to the network. All you have to do is follow the instructions in one of the threads to back it up.
For stock based ROMs on ICS, I like Wanamlite.
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Best way to root is the video in my signature (use my files, too). It's easier and faster than the way you describe. I wish people would forget that stupid flash counter exists. It's not like we can't reset it.
Loss of IMEI very rarely happens when you flash. But, once you flash CM10, just run the terminal emulator that comes with it: su > reboot nvbackup. Now your IMEI is backed up, and you are protected against possible, but unlikely, loss. I've flashed every day for two months and never lost mine.
Rom: Why use ICS when you can use JB? IMO, the sole reason to use an ICS build is wifi calling. Use CM10. Use the stock CM kernel. CM doesn't have center clock (AOKP does), but IMO, CM is the better of the two. A lot of people like to flash custom kernels. They usually provide marginally better battery life, overclocking/undervolting, etc. I feel that none of these are necessary. There is an additional problem that the 3rd party kernels always lag behind CM's kernel merges, also. This typically results bootloops. So make sure the kernel you flash (if you do), is compatible with the newest CM build.
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Thanks for the reply, CM10 wasn't officially supported with the htc so it never really worked great, but it looks like the M version is pretty smooth and ironed out so I'll definitely try that. I guess a lot of the threads I've read were early ones from before the flash counter could be reset, I thought it was a bigger deal than it seems like it is. I'll try your sig's root method. Oh yeah, wifi calling doesn't work for me right now with the stock rom so losing it isn't a big deal at all.
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No the method does not matter, root is root. Read about them and use the one you are comfortable with.
Yes, HTC does have IMEI. All GSM phones do. It is basically the serial number your phone uses to connect to the network. All you have to do is follow the instructions in one of the threads to back it up.
For stock based ROMs on ICS, I like Wanamlite.
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I wasn't saying HTC doesn't have imei, I was saying in a year of having it and before with the G2 I never once read any threads about people "losing" it, so I wanted to know what makes the s3 different.
That was SOOOO much easier than the sensation was. The senny took me over an hour, I had to learn adb and had to check and recheck a ton of commands before entering each to make sure I didn't brick anything. This was fast and easy, but now I can't seem to get into twrp recovery? Every time I try vol up/home/power it boots into what I'm assuming is the standard stock recovery?
My signature has an explanation for that.
Thanks again, I don't understand why but I installed cwm touch and it worked and then used goo manager to install twrp again and now it works fine. I know there's a whole thread about twrp but what do you like and why?
I stopped using TWRP because the keyboard (at least at the time) didn't work properly. It would close for no reason, making me retype the file names. Took me 5-6 times once, for this file name: CM10-XXXX. 9 characters. Would just keep closing and resetting the characters I had already typed. I've heard the new version, 2.3, has some pretty bad bugs, but I haven't used it, so can't confirm. Developer is currently fixing said problems. I also find the slide-to-continue gimmick to be ridiculous. I will say, however, that flash-queuing is a good idea.
I won't even discuss CWM because we have CWM Touch. The layout is nonsensical. Everything seems to be in random order, no dividers to make things easier to read, no prompt on fix permissions. Other than that, it's great. It allows you to delete stock recovery, and it keeps root for you when you flash OTA files with it.
CWM Touch is what I use, and will continue to use until something better shows up.
One more question, is there a way to double check once I've done the su/nvbackup using terminal emulator, or should I just assume that if the phone rebooted after running that command that it was successful?
When you reboot with that command, you will see blue text at the top left corner of the screen, like when you are going into recovery. It says it's copying modemst1 and modemst2 to fsb and backup. Yes, the names are incorrect, but you get the idea.