So, some n00b tried to pull a fast one on me and sell me a S3 that was stuck in demo mode. Didn't notice when I first got it because I was in a rush. Phone is absolutely in MINT condition, looks like it's been in a box forever. I'm thinking it was owned by a store to display in a transparent cube box thing? I don't know. I know it isn't stolen, though. It has all the paperwork and whatnot.
Anyway, it kept booting into demo mode, and it wasn't just an app, it was a bunch, it didn't allow USB Debugging or mounting, etc.
So, I tried to ODIN, same thing.. it formatted everything, but demo mode was still there.
I researched, seems no one has had this problem.
So, me not trying to panic, I thought logically. I thought it may be written in the NAND.
Therefore, a simple tick with ODIN 'NAND Erase All' did the trick.
Just wanted to share my story with you guys. This S3 will be my mom's phone as I have a white one.
Happy flashing!
how much did you bought it
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$350. I think it was a decent deal.
$350 on a non-subsidized is a great deal.
Just odin flash phone and problem solved ....
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Just odin flash phone and problem solved ....
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Did you read the post?
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It'll probably get blocked in the next couple months. Enjoy while you can!
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Oh and if it had demo mode, its probably stolen from a store. Now for sure your gonna get blocked!
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Hopefully that's not the case.
If it was, wouldn't it be blocked by now?
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Hopefully that's not the case.
If it was, wouldn't it be blocked by now?
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If it was stolen from a store then yes logically It would have been blocked by now.
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It really sounds stolen, I can't think of why a device intended for purchase would ever have demo mode on, and paperwork is easy enough to fake. Although hopefully for your sake it's not! It's possible an employee stole it, so it's possible it won't ever be reported as stolen.
craigslist bs
Just recently had issues with few people on craigslist, in the past month two issue. Never once have I had an issue before with any trade or purchase before.
Issue one: traded my galaxy s2 for a galaxy nexus, everything looked to be in working order. Well it has never crossed my mine to check the "usb port" to ensure it charges properly. Ended up sending it in to samsung for repair, that was a nightmare its been nearly a month and I've had no updates on my phone plus it was suppose to be shipped out twice already yet it wasn't. Total debacle! Complaint has been issued and working to resolve it.
Issue 2: Purchased a galaxy note for $260 box and everything with it. I had planned to purchase and trade it for a galaxy s3, set up times to meet both people. Purchased the note that morning at 8:00am and then met up with the seller of the galaxy s3 by about 9am. We exchange phones and check them out the, note excellent condition and gs3 was as well. Seller was unable to test it on t-mobile since he didn't have sim coming from the gs3. Galaxy s3 was unlocked which I need since I'm on local carrier. Few days go buy and I am contacted by the person who I traded the note to. Well it has been blocked by t-mobile, (fraud).
I never worried about this since I'm on a local carrier and once the phone is unlocked I'm good to go. First time ever for this to happen, I have always been honest and open about my transactions I do on ebay & craigslist. Its buyer beware as usual,
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$350. I think it was a decent deal.
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Isn't that how much it sells at Costco with no contract?
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Isn't that how much it sells for at Costco with no contract?
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Sounds like some "noob" DID pull a fast one on you. I'm sure it's fixable. Good luck.
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@awake, I guess he did to a certain extent.
Well, I'm just hoping for the best.
Thanks for all the input!
Is there a way to check if the phone is clean?
I'd have to call T-Mobile, eh?
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It was most likely stolen by an associate from the store. Demo phones come with all the paperwork it just states demo on the box somewhere (usually but not always). So definitely stolen, there isn't any other way to get a demo.
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Most likely a store demo that was stolen. 50/50 shot of it being blacklisted or not. Depends on if the store it was stolen from was lazy and just deactivated the sim that was in it and called it good or took it further and sent in the imei to get blocked.
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I don't know how long it would take for them to block the imei if it had been reported but I'm guessing that it wouldn't take more than a couple days and with that said op (hopefully) is in the clear
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I tried to buy one off contract at Costco and they said they can only sell them on contract.
How much are they going for redhooka?
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Just for your info, it can take 30 to 45 days before it gets locked. Conceivably, you may not be out of the locking woods yet. I hope for the op sake, it doesn't get locked, but......
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Has anyone returned their t-mobile galaxy s3? Was there a restocking fee and how much? Cause I talked to t-mobile about the buy one get one free deal and asked if I could still get it even though I already bought the phone a week ago and they said no. I don't get why they said no when I could just return it and buy the galaxy s3 and get the deal..
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I thought it doesn't apply to the s3?
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Usually it's a $50 restocking fee.
You'll have to purchase both phones and then you'll get a rebate for the other one, so just a heads up if you do it like this.
Also, I think it takes a min for your upgrade to appear again. Not sure when the sale ends, but this might give you problems.
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Oh. I was gonna get the galaxy s2 for free as a upgrade on another line, but t-mobile said I couldn't get the deal cause I got the phone before the deal started. Wow..
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Oh. I was gonna get the galaxy s2 for free as a upgrade on another line, but t-mobile said I couldn't get the deal cause I got the phone before the deal started. Wow..
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Figures, I bought my GS3 last saturday, after the 11th, they better come across with the free phone
I won't get it til tomorrow, and I'm refusing the delivery so they will return it. Way to many major issues known
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ayeitschris said:
Oh. I was gonna get the galaxy s2 for free as a upgrade on another line, but t-mobile said I couldn't get the deal cause I got the phone before the deal started. Wow..
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I don't get why you're mad about this? Why should they send you a free GS2 when you already completed your order? Makes no sense. You buy a phone before you even know about the bogo deal, then you find out about the deal and call them and tell them to send you a free GS2? How stupid is that? Common sense buddy. Sorry for flaming you.
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I won't get it til tomorrow, and I'm refusing the delivery so they will return it. Way to many major issues known
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I must be lucky because I have not found any issues with this device. What known issues are you talking about.
Lol. Nvm. Already returned it and got the phone for 199$ at target instead.
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Lol. Nvm. Already returned it and got the phone for 199$ at target instead.
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I went to target today and they had it for $230 while att had it for $179 and sprint for $150. T-Mobile charging more than anyone else is so stupid
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So, I saw a girl write on Facebook that she is selling a T Mobile Galaxy S3. So I inboxed her and ask how much she wanted. She told me to make an offer, so I said I wouldn't pay any more than $300. Then she asked me would I pay $220? I told her yes!!!! Says its brand new used since June comes with box booklets etc and flawless condition! Did I just hit jackpot? Is the phone worth it? Anything I should "lookout" for? I'm a galaxy nexus owner by the way guys!!!
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Hopefully she isnt scamming you by selling her phone, reporting it stolen, having TMo blackball your phone rendering it useless, using insurance to replace her 'stolen' phone and pocketing the leftover cash.
Other than that you did good!
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Hopefully she isnt scamming you by selling her phone, reporting it stolen, having TMo blackball your phone rendering it useless, using insurance to replace her 'stolen' phone and pocketing the leftover cash.
Other than that you did good!
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Thanks for the heads up brother! And she told Me she's switching to carriers. And I attached the convo we had!
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Ask her for the IMEI number so you can verify everything is in order with TMo, if she still has it. Than call TMo and ask them to tell you if everything is good with that phone, and have them document it in your account that you called.
"iSwitch"?
Something seems fishy... lol
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Ask her for the IMEI number so you can verify everything is in order with TMo, if she still has it. Than call TMo and ask them to tell you if everything is good with that phone, and have them document it in your account that you called.
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Gotcha! Thanks I will tell her
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"iSwitch"?
Something seems fishy... lol
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Maybe shes getting an iPhone or something? Lol
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Since you told her they are going for 300(which is really cheap to start with for a s3) and she offered you 220 for it, seems too good to be true.
But if everything checks out OK with the imei then yes you scored big time.
But make sure you get pictures over the device. I've ran into so many scams on Craigslist that it wouldn't surprise me if they migrated to Facebook.
My advice, proceed with caution
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Either she's pulling a fast one in you if she's beyond stupid. You offered $300 but she only wants $220? What? Like everyone else said, verify the IMEI before you give her a single cent.
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How do you verify the IMEI?
Does she lives near you? If so meet at T-Mobile and transfer the phone to your account on the spot.
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I appreciate the replies guys. Honestly I think shes just a clueless teenage girl that has no idea how much its worth. Notice her spelling. She's about 18 years old I'm sure, and she's just switching carriers, I really doubt there's any fishy stuff going on, but I will see if she meets me at the T-Mobile store in our local mall. I don't wanna go there and have the people say something like "your selling it for only 220, that's unfair!" And blow everything up in my face :/ I wont be using the phone as my daily driver but I will switch from galaxy nexus to s3 every few days ^_^
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I appreciate the replies guys. Honestly I think shes just a clueless teenage girl that has no idea how much its worth. Notice her spelling. She's about 18 years old I'm sure, and she's just switching carriers, I really doubt there's any fishy stuff going on, but I will see if she meets me at the T-Mobile store in our local mall. I don't wanna go there and have the people say something like "your selling it for only 220, that's unfair!" And blow everything up in my face :/ I wont be using the phone as my daily driver but I will switch from galaxy nexus to s3 every few days ^_^
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If ur gonna.do that make sure you get a micro to regular sim adapter, if her contract is up and she isn't just ditching without paying I think its a good deal even if it is someone on att will pay over 300 for it
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Dude...
Dude, come on...you're obviously being scammed. Who gets offered $300 for something and says, "Nah! I'll talk $220!"
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Dude, come on...you're obviously being scammed. Who gets offered $300 for something and says, "Nah! I'll talk $220!"
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Or maybe she has a fake s3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRcTwoXJipI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Maybe it's been dropped and has some scratches?
You said it was worth $300 so she probably said $220 because it's not mint.
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Scam. Like the above poster said, why would she offer you the phone for less than $300 when you said $300 first?
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Scam. Like the above poster said, why would she offer you the phone for less than $300 when you said $300 first?
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He said that wouldnt pay more then 300 he never offered 300. She shot him a price and he accepted. Why is that hard to believe.
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Because most people would say 'You wont pay more than $300? OK, $299'
Thanks for the help guys. I'm coming to conclusion that when I said 300.00 she assumed that's how much they go for brand new. So offered a lesser price. I highly doubt she has any cell phone knowledge. She told me its in flawless condition as well. Used for a few months. I'll contact her again and see what's up!
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Ive had my note for to weeks now, not feeling the phone, switching to nexus4,
Brand new titanium with box and flip case thats never been used, also hesdset never opened and micro sim card
$400
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Had enough with custom ROM issues I see.
I havnt flashed any roms, just rooted with CWM recovery.
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Quick look at your posts tells me you did. Or is this a replacement device?
I sent you a pm sir. I am very interested in buying one for my brother ..
I'm in Houston too .. I sent you a PM
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$400... I don't know guys, you know what they say... Never look a [cheap] horse in the mouth...
Sold. Sorry to anyone who was interested.
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Quick look at your posts tells me you did. Or is this a replacement device?
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Im with you says only rooted but post history ahows he flasjed a rom for diff note 2 and couldn't get service
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Sold. Sorry to anyone who was interested.
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That was an incredible price on a near new phone. :good:
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Im with you says only rooted but post history ahows he flasjed a rom for diff note 2 and couldn't get service
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People have to lie sometimes. Get the sale done!
LOL, I got my Note 2 for this price a month ago from a guy that needed to make rent.
CL at the beginning of the month. Find treasure!
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People have to lie sometimes. Get the sale done!
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I didnt lie, I was being up front. Just wanted to get rid of it quick. Only thing I did to that phone was root it threw odin and flash clockwork mod recovery.
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Razr
Samsung Vibrant
G2x
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Nexus 4
Really!?!?!
Your past posts says different.
But even if you only did what you said, I wouldn't want a Note 2 that as been flashed with custom recovery. Just my thing.
I always try to check things out before buying something. But that is just my cautious self speaking.
BTW - Did you get your LG Nexus 4 yet? How do you like it? And how is the battery life?
I doubt he got it yet, I ordered an 8 gig for the wife Nov 27th, the second round of sales and got through at 5:01pm, mine says its going to ship Jan 2. The 16 gigs may be different, though.
LOL, this has been humorous how Google arranged to have low stock of N4 so that they can be sold by other retailers at the high cost while having just enough to maintain high buzz during shopping season.
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Im using my S2 for now.
Android is a powerful drug.
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$400... I don't know guys, you know what they say... Never look a [cheap] horse in the mouth...
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That's a "gift horse", please use the correct verb-age if you're gonna try to be intelligent.
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So I'm thinking of buying a Used GS3 or Nexus 4. Since the GS3 has expandable memory that's what I'm leaning towards.
Anyway, what kind of things should I ask/look for when getting a used GS3 other than scratches and cracks?
The best and safest thing you can do is meet the seller at a Tmobile retail store. Have an employee check the status of the phone. They can even make a note that the phone has been sold and the original owner cannot report it stolen or lost.
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The best and safest thing you can do is meet the seller at a Tmobile retail store. Have an employee check the status of the phone. They can even make a note that the phone has been sold and the original owner cannot report it stolen or lost.
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I've been looking at Swappa so that might not work, but I'll keep that in mind if I can find a local seller.
Swappa is fine along as seller is verified. He's talking about meeting the guy if you're buying it from craigslist
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Swappa is fine along as seller is verified. He's talking about meeting the guy if you're buying it from craigslist
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I know.
Meet at tmobile store if you can. Safest way.
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The biggest thing you need to look out for is the screen is in good condition, IMEI isn't blacklisted, and obviously that the phone isn't hard bricked.
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The biggest thing you need to look out for is the screen is in good condition, IMEI isn't blacklisted, and obviously that the phone isn't hard bricked.
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Any common problems with the phone? (For example, the Nexus 7 screen lift.)
I've never encountered any issues with my S3 and I use it constantly. I'd just make sure the phone isn't stolen or blacklisted. Back in the day I bought a phone off of eBay, went to activate it, turns out it was stolen...
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Any common problems with the phone? (For example, the Nexus 7 screen lift.)
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No, nothing I can think of and I've had mine since December now, almost 6 months. I also do have Nexus 7, but I don't think I even have a screen lift problem with it.
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No, nothing I can think of and I've had mine since December now, almost 6 months. I also do have Nexus 7, but I don't think I even have a screen lift problem with it.
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I bought and returned 3 Nexus 7s early on because of problems like the screen lift so it's why I ask.
I also saw that some Nexus 4s had some back glass lift problems and the HTC One has some separation/cracking issues.
I don't think I've read anything about the Samsung phones though other than the plasticky feel.
If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Good question. I gave in my girls HTC sensation today, rooted running AOKP, they rebooted it, saw the custom boot ani, and still gave us $65. Maybe withb jump they check more thoroughly?
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Lol that hilarious. All I have found is that they say it must be in working condition and no cracked screen. And it must boot and function properly.
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If the Knox counter gets tripped, will that affect me trading in my phone with T-Mobile's JUMP! Program?
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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Please excuse my ignorance but what is knox, thanks
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Never mind I found it thanks
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
I traded my note 2 in today, running tweaked rom and custom recovery. Still got $275 for it. A lot of the phones get wiped and reflashed without even being checked to see if they were tampered with
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I couldn't believe they were offering so much for the Note 2. I almost dumped mine. I'm selling it to one of my employees already. Only 300, I wish I didn't commit, I would have sold it today, instead of waiting a month for my money.
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Note 2's probably going to go on sale like the s3 did when s4 came out and s3' were selling like mad because the price drop so maybe they want to have refurb stock to offer in case demand gets high and they run out of new note 2's due to a sale on note 2' s
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
Does it turn on
Is the screen broken
Is their physical damage
They also gave me $275 for my Note 2. JediX19. They didn't care at all.
$275? I wish I wasn't such a nice guy sometimes. I ended up giving my mother in law my Note II.
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The guy who sold me the Note 3 was into custom ROMs. When I mentioned Knox efuse and trade in with Jump he said no one there would even know what to look for at trade in and that flashing should be fine. He said the same thing about warranty returns. The insurance company would just take back the device.
But...he did mention that trade ins with Jump would end up as refurb devices. So its possible that there might be someone along the repair service chain knows whats what.
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I don't think the eFuse matters unless you're getting it warranty repaired by Samsung and even then, they may not bother to check if there's no custom ROM running. Most people don't know about it or even care. I sent a Droid4 to Moto for warranty repair and there is something similar (it may or may not be the same) that gets flipped when it's rooted. They didn't care and repaired the defect.
Just found this thread Googling for the same thing. I was told by the guy at the T-Mobile I went to that they don't care at the store when trading it in, but he's not sure what would happen when it got to wherever they send it and see it tripped.
Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Basically what happens is if it is tripped your rights to the extended warranty are revoked going forward. You won't be able to add the extended warranty or jump for 12 months plus you pay out of warranty fee.
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Source?
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When processing a trade in the only things the computer asks is
Water damage
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What he said^^
For now, at least.
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What he said^^
For now, at least.
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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I'm a tmo rep and so far they've said nothing about checking anything but the screen and water damage etc, I've also traded in 3 different phones that were rooted and custom Rom and all and never heard a word from Samsung or whoever the traded phones go to. Plain. And simple lol we don't care what you did with your Phone. I've also sent an s3 I. Under Warranty Last Year Without Using Triangle Away And There Were No Repercussions. Cost too much money and time to check every phone they just basically reflash and refurbish and send it back out
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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That's the thing though. Can they re flash Knox, and if so, how do we get that tool?
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Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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seshaz said:
Don't know yet, I can go in t-community tomorrow and see if I can contact a Samsung tech and see what they say. I asked our Samsung rep and he had no clue there was such a thing as Knox. I'll get back tomorrow with an answer.
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I'll hold off on rooting until you get back to us then. This is my first Touchwiz Samsung phone and I'm ready to experience ASOP on this beautiful screen
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