[Q] Alternatives? (CyanogenMod dropping Exynos support) - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?

Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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That seems awfully silly to drop such an anticipated world wide device. Maybe he can't meat the demand of both SG3, and Note 2?

adampa1006 said:
Nothing going on in the stickied thread for whose gonna develop for it. Any ideas?
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We are still waiting for us release date to even be announced so some devs may not even be that worried about notifying me until they get to see the device hands on.
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StelardActek said:
So, I was all excited to get a Note 2, but then I heard about CyanogenMod being unlikely to support new Exynos devices: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/
So with that in mind... does anyone have a competing phablet to suggest?
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You do know that codeworkx isn't the only developer for CyanogenMod or for Samsung devices. Him dropping support for Exynos devices isn't the end of the world. So what if he left, that's his personal choice & I understand why & completely support him but not everyone shares his views of dropping support for Exynos devices because devices like the S & Note series are very popular & its just a matter of time before some developer get his hand on the device & CyanogenMod will be developed for it. This is just needless panic.
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The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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StelardActek said:
The HTC One X5 looks good, but no clue on when it'll come out...
And yes #illidan, I realise that another developer may step up, and I do hope that happens. But from the sounds of things, it's not just codeworkx that is dropping Samsung support:
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Yes I'm well aware of the entire so called Exynos development team giving up because of Samsung's retarded ways but as of now I believe it's a 50-50 gamble for device support. Maybe a new maintainer steps up to the batting plate or an old one does (highly unlikely). It's basically up to you & seeing as the Note is the only choice for now if your looking for a phablet. I still believe that the device will receive support.
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A popular device like the Note II will surely get CM. But a point worth considering is the lack of help being provided by Samsung regarding the Exynos processor. So, in the future , development may slow down or there may be loss of particular functionality due to the lack of code or compatible blobs from Samsung for the Exynos.
Of course, there are many talented devs that gonna work on the Note II, but the Team Hacksung not supporting this is definitely a big blow, as they have shown the awesome work they can do with Samsung devices as well as the fact that they have tremendous experience on Samsung devices.

Hrm, this may not be concerning for the veteran android user,but as I plan(ned?) this to be my first android device, it makes me wonder if I should wait and see if there is support for it. I can't a stock anything, let a lone a phone. And unfortunatly this is the only android device I'm really looking forward to.

I've heard some chit chatter as well, as far as development / support not going to be strong but its not going to sway me from buying this phone.. It's still going to be awesome.. Even if its just stock rooted to get rid of system things you don't need
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I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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The nexus line is the way to go
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adampa1006 said:
I have a developer question, what company is actually giving the developers what they want? HTC? I know Motorola hasn't been that developer friendly ( at least on Verizon I know its better on other carriers). Cm10 will be on the note 2. If my Bionic is getting JB cm10 then for sure the Note 2 will
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Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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erick161 said:
Apparently if has more to do with the processor. The Snapdragon, TI OMAP, NVidia etc are more forthcoming with code for CM. Sammy however is not, since exynos is a proprietary chip (aka apple).
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I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong

johnwazhere said:
I believe that the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy Note 2 is exactly the same as the CPU in the Galaxy S III, Just higher Clocked. And the International Galaxy S III has Cyanogenmod Already, So fear not it will be a easier port. Correct me if I'm wrong
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I would assume so, but not sure. Personally, I won't stray away from a stock base. I want those features touted by Samsung. That's why I'm upgrading.
I'm not sure however, how well CM10 runs on the SGS3...and according to what I've read, its not a very good port.
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Do you guys think we will get all the software features the SGS3 has?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ar-and-were-only-just-scratching-the-surface/
Go under software and you can see some of the features if you guys still don't know much about the SGS3 yet and what it is capable of. I'm sure with the brilliant and dedicated developers we have, they can definitely pull most of the things off on that last that does not require special sensors. So what do you guys think? I'm ready for S voice, smart alert, face and voice unlock, and the plethora of other things that the S3 has to offer.
I could be wrong, but I don't see Samsung updating older phones with those 'new' features if they want you to go out and buy their new SIII.
Though a few of those features has alternative means.
eksasol said:
I could be wrong, but I don't see Samsung updating older phones with those 'new' features if they want you to go out and buy their new SIII.
Though a few of those features has alternative means.
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I think he's talking more so about if developers would be able to port those features to the galaxy nexus. Pretty safe to say samsung won't be officially handing them out but that's not to discount the great xda devs being able to port them.
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Some features do look nice but not enough to changed my galaxy nexus... anyways some features probably will come to jelly bean I mean ICS has a lot features the CM and some other "roms " had in the past just like iOS adding a lot jailbreak tweeks is something is good someone will copy it happens just Google has to find a better way to implement the technology . The phone does not look bad and for the first time I don't feel like I need to upgrade my phone ( I had over 8 devices in the last 2 years ) and I'm really happy with my nexus
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Why do people keep making these threads about SGSIII features?
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Some features do look nice but not enough to changed my galaxy nexus... anyways some features probably will come to jelly bean I mean ICS has a lot features the CM and some other "roms " had in the past just like iOS adding a lot jailbreak tweeks is something is good someone will copy it happens just Google has to find a better way to implement the technology . The phone does not look bad and for the first time I don't feel like I need to upgrade my phone ( I had over 8 devices in the last 2 years ) and I'm really happy with my nexus
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I'm hearing you there, this is the first Android phone I'm utterly in love with. It's so wonderful, fast, gorgeous display and it looks good too. I've had five Androids since 2010 and I'm going to be sticking to this one for a while. As Cyanogenmod development steams along I see no reason to look elsewhere.
Certainly the Galaxy III is a sexy phone but it's just not worth the cash for the extra features to me. Especially since it will be another wait until Cyanogenmod reaches a decent level of development for that phone.
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Also keep in mind Google said ICS isn't gonna bring 'game changing' features Jelly Bean will
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martonikaj said:
Why do people keep making these threads about SGSIII features?
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Because it has great features
nonione said:
Also keep in mind Google said ICS isn't gonna bring 'game changing' features Jelly Bean will
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This is good to know. I might as well let me gf get rid of her SGS2 to get a Nexus
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Also keep in mind Google said ICS isn't gonna bring 'game changing' features Jelly Bean will
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$5 says its going to be all the features introduced in Sense 4 and Touchwiz on the GSIII.
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I know I'm getting the features because I'm getting the phone. And no I don't think the gn will get some of the features due to CPU and GPU power and nfc speeds .
CPU and GPU on mirroring all share cast.
Nfc speeds on the s beam.
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I am pretty sure that the GNex will get most of the features of the SGSIII eventually, either officially or unofficially!
What do you mean NFC Speeds on S-Beam? S-Beam works by initiating an NFC Connection, which then establishes a WiFi Direct connection between the devices to send the files, so there is no reason that GNex couldn't have it?

How good is developer support on LG devices?

Hey everyone I'm thinking of getting the LG Optimus G when it releases but the reason I'm not 100% sure yet due to their lack of updates.
So I was wondering how good is the developer community at rooting, creating ROMs, etc for past LG devices? Does LG give enough documentation to help developers or have developers been doing a pretty decent job in general?
I know this is a vague question, was just hoping someone with past LG experiences could shed some light. Thanks.
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Hey everyone I'm thinking of getting the LG Optimus G when it releases but the reason I'm not 100% sure yet due to their lack of updates.
So I was wondering how good is the developer community at rooting, creating ROMs, etc for past LG devices? Does LG give enough documentation to help developers or have developers been doing a pretty decent job in general?
I know this is a vague question, was just hoping someone with past LG experiences could shed some light. Thanks.
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Based on how they treated my g2x... I wouldnt buy any phone by them ever again.
And even though they got a nexus line coming out at the end of the month... Im just gonna wait for one of the other 4 before I bite. LG can bite me.
If its like the 4xhd bad, 4xhd had locked boot loader and has never been unlocked
So if you want a device for development this will probably be a no go.
explosivequack said:
If its like the 4xhd bad, 4xhd had locked boot loader and has never been unlocked
So if you want a device for development this will probably be a no go.
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How big was the development community for the 4xhd?
I know there have been a number of "challenging" bootloaders that have been defeated.
In the off chance the Optimus G is a big enough hit, there is a good chance locked bootloaders will be overcome.
This seems like it will be a popular device, so a lot of dev support. If I get one in December I will do some custom romsfor the phone.
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Snow_fox said:
How big was the development community for the 4xhd?
I know there have been a number of "challenging" bootloaders that have been defeated.
In the off chance the Optimus G is a big enough hit, there is a good chance locked bootloaders will be overcome.
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4xhd doesn't have one rom, its rooted and has cwm but no kernels or roms. Its sad really hopefully this isn't like it or it'll be a bummer
I'm hoping for some good news on the bootloader and rooting for this phone.
I'm going to wait a while and see what happens before I upgrade. If it's locked up tight, I'll be disappointed, and buy something else.
If CWM and CM10 are "quickly" in the works...
Hmm... The Korean model has been rooted. I'm crossing my fingers.
I already pre ordered mine with sprint. I'm hoping to run aosp asap
I have my fingers crossed as well.
I think the LG Optimus G has the specs and pricing to warrant a big community, although I do have to say that LG could have made more hype about it. With the SGs3 and the HOX, people are extremely interested in it, even though the US versions bring very little new to the table. Developers flocked to the devices and now you've got a humongous community.
Also, I think this is a flagship phone for the US, until the HOX+ and the new nexus devices are released, and even then it'll still be a great contender (to the HOX+ at least, not sure what the new Nexus' will bring). It's got a lot of things going it's way for a large community...
Maybe contact LG Mobile to make it unlockable for the phone to sell more and become developer friendly...
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I have feeling that the LG Optimus G will be plagued with a locked bootloader. Part of LG's strategies. "If you want a more dev friendly phone, then buy our new LG Nexus 4!"
well, LG Optimus one has very good developer support http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=836 .
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well, LG Optimus one has very good developer support http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=836 .
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I don't think I would consider that very good, the One X+ or the GS3 are much better options to be honest. The Note 2 would be the best, but it also looks like the new nexus is coming as well.
Personally I would go with a one X or GS3 and save some cash.
Cyanogen mod doesn't support htc devices so I wouldn't go there.
*if* the optimus g gets unlocked bootloaders then we may see amazing dev support.
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Snow_fox said:
Cyanogen mod doesn't support htc devices so I wouldn't go there.
*if* the optimus g gets unlocked bootloaders then we may see amazing dev support.
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Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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Very grateful to you all news, I want to I can have a lot of help, are looking forward to your update! Again
xboxfanj said:
Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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My mistake then, I incorrectly read somewhere that Cyanogen support had been dropped for HTC devices due to the trouble with sources and such.
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My mistake then, I incorrectly read somewhere that Cyanogen support had been dropped for HTC devices due to the trouble with sources and such.
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That has happened partially for the Exynos Galaxy S III devices. They have broken source code for the HW acceleration driver, so codeworkx and entropy512 may abandon it.
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Cm does. All of the one series is supported. Cyanogen himself was primarily an HTC dev until samsung hired him.
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Don't forget about the OG EVO

No CyanogenMod for Galaxy S4

No!!!!! Say it ain't so! I love CyanogenMod so much this might actually stop me from buying the single most awesome device I have ever waited for. I guess that says a lot about the CyanogenMod Team.
http://www.cultofandroid.com/24475/samsung-galaxy-s4-wont-be-supported-by-cynogenmod/
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That's Sucks.
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Doesn't mean jack. Someone will end up doing a port of CyanogenMod to the S4, whether or not the CM team gives its "blessing." At this point, there's nothing they can do to stop it.
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The question is whether it will be a functional stable port but I am staying optimistic.
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True, but I've learned to never underestimate the ingenuity of the Android development community.
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They already stated that this post doesnt speak for the whole CM team. Just some of the Samsung maintainers.
We should have all seen this coming with the lack of developer support Samsung has been doing as of late.
Will someone make a port? Most likely. will it be as stable as a CM version? Most likely not. To be honest. The S4 is nothing big compared to the S3. Yes it has a few cool features but those features will be lost on AOSP. Mainly as Samsung will not release the code for it so you will only see those features on a TW rom.
Isn't it a bit early to for a definitive "no" about a CyanogenMod?
Like the phone I read isn't being released 'till the end of April as the earliest estimate.
I am not really hugely disappointed to be honest. I have to say the stock rom on this phone is one of the better ones and I do use it quite often. If any phone can stand alone on stock it is this one in my opinion.
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If you want all the stuff to really work you already need a TW based ROM anyways. I don't see Sammy opening up more with sharing code, smells like they are going the other way.
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Shahan_mik3 said:
AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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I liked the Captivate's design, one of the best IMO.
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There will probably be lesser CM support for the international S4 model due to developers frustration with Exynos chips. Us version, however, will be shipped with good fully supported Qualcomm Snapdragon processor and should be fine receiving developers love.
Edit: to sum it up, here is an official CyanogenMod stance on topic from their Google + page. Well put!
CyanogenMod10:59 AM - Public
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
-The CyanogenMod Team
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I was about to post a ss of that very post. Oh, here it is anyway. For the unbelievers.
If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Loooooooool
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TouchWiz isn't all that bad, IMO.
But I far and away prefer to run AOSP.
Sucks to hear that some members of CyanogenMod aren't happy with the S4, or Samsung in general.
I upgrade phones every year. Why not. But I've learned my lesson. I won't upgrade again until CyanogenMod has matured for a few months for ROM's on any particular phone.
Flashing a new ROM every two-three days hoping to find something fixed, suxes. I'd rather have an awesome ROM than an awesome phone.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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That's the thing, I don't have time to screw around with flashing nightlies hoping that whatever problem I have is fixed, and praying that no new problem is introduced. I dealt with this with every phone I've had in the past, and it's not fun. I agree that the new features of 4.2 are nice, but not nice enough to deal with the issues of AOSP. Besides, TouchWiz is fast, fluid, and gets excellent battery life, and has far more features than stock Android. To me, CM is a downgrade and a headache. A phone is a tool, not a project.
bdithug said:
If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways.
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That screen would be really nice though, and a good chunk bigger than the One.
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Its true stock Android on S4!!!

yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.
Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.
I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?
KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)
It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
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elflip88 said:
Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
blackhand1001 said:
CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.
If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
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jelly bean 4.3???

I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
bluntdude24 said:
I just heard from CNET that nexus is going to get 4.3 jellybean,
when will we get official 4.2 or 4.3? or atleast a ROM which has both CM features and Touchwiz features :/
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u heard it right they have rolled out Jb Android 4.3 (JWR66V) for nexus 4 and other for nexus 7,10 etc
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
so as far samsung is concerned it will take atleast 3 months from now if we are lucky or maybe even end of this year but yes the good news is that samsung has confirmed the 4.3 update for note2 but have not commented anything on the release date yet
There are already many many threads for same subject and I think they will be adding up
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There is an update and other devices thread in the stickies.
Instead of making a dozen threads just post in that thread.
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All we know is Q4 2013
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Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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How come nexus devices get updates 1st?
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Because Nexus devices are devices that are made by Google's standards and android is developed for this devices by Google themselves. Then with the android source code (AOSP) manufacturers such as Samsung, HTC, Sony etc etc. are free to make their own rom for it, this is why it will always follow later, especially 'cause they have to make sure it is completely bugfree. Next to the big manufacturers we have ofcourse developers like CyanogenMod team and other good developers (i.e. from XDA!) who provide us from great roms too, and some even better than the stock samsung roms.
salmonsushi said:
Based on Samsung's past update speed and the lower than expected S4 sales, I am betting on before Q4 2014
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Will people stop talking about the s4 sales. They just posted they made over 6.6 billion which is up from last year.
So they didn't sell as many as they wanted. Well the s3 is still an awesome phone so why would everyone just to an s4
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My cat has more intelligence than the people who keep starting these threads. How they scrape up the IQ to actually purchase a mobile phone in the first place amazes me.
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol.now I got to know the reason behind delay in update from samsung
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Frunobulax said:
Samsung is directly monitoring the Note II General forums, and they delay in a couple of weeks the launch every time someone starts a topic about it.
Thanks, OP. I hope Santa Claus remembers your deeds today.
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Lol. Just expect a tweet from samsung of 4.3 cery soon" coming shortly.
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i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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no, I want official, please give official 4.3 for note2, please, I want it please
(hope this will stop a new thread, lets pray)
via Note 2
UtkarshGupta said:
i am not here to whine about the thread, but i got some good news.
i am building cm10.2 for n7100 and if it boots, i will upload it.
it is not touchwiz ofcourse (so it ain't crap) and is equivalent to cm10.1 with 4.3
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Make a topic mate
FloatingFatMan said:
"Crap" is relative. One could call CM10.x crap for the Note 2, as it doesn't have the S-Pen features, leaving the device rather crippled compared to TW.
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No, TW compared to CM actually is crap. CM S Pen Add-on, Note Buddy and Papyrus and S Pen features (incl. Pulling in or out detection) work perfectly.
definitely by the time samsung releases official 4.3 there will be 4 to 5 more threads on the same topic for sure
By the time Sammy is almost ready to release 4.3, Key Lime Pie 5.0 will be out and they will then decide to skip 4.3 for Note II and go directly to 5.0.
I am having issues building cm.
I just know how to initiate a build , I don't know how to fix because I don't know any programming language.
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