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[Q] FM transmitter app

Is there an FM transmitter app/software that can be installed on a rooted droid incredible through the bluetooth or wifi of the phone?

Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no.
There have been other threads on this issue here and in the Evo forum. Search for them for more details.
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I dont know about transmitting but the fm receiver is really weak on the DInc. So it may not have enough juice to transmit.

I don't think anyone's figured out if the chip's FM transmitter is even available to be used (it's in the chip, but it could be disconnected), much less what needs written in order to access it or actually use it for anything.
It's been a long time since I looked at the subject, but I seem to remember the general consensus being "it's in there, but we're not even sure if we can get to it, never mind figuring out how to use it."
Edit: Looks like the research kinda died. Start at this thread and keep jumping down the rabbit hole until you're satisfied.

[Q] Ridiculous Question, But Please Bear with Me...

From what I can tell almost nobody could care less about FM radio on the Epic at this point, however, I believe that I am one of the few people left that would actually really like to see it implemented in our phones.
We already know the phone is technically capable of it; in fact, some people had success in getting it to work on EE03 (http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-al...s-only-cwm3025-deodexed-prerooted-5-16-a.html).
So my question is if there are any developers working on making a functional FM radio a reality or if work on the function has completely gone by the wayside on Gingerbread and ICS for our phones.
Also, if you're like me and care about this missing feature but aren't a developer, feel free to leave your input as well.
Thank you!

i second this, that and did the developer go anywhere with video out? A couple weeks back he posted that he still had insterest.

Not for me. I am good with streaming thousands of FM stations. It is hard enough to keep a good station with a portable radio and an antenna. Headphones as an antenna won't cut it for me.

Maybe if it was HD but even then I don't think so. Like Kenny was saying, FM radio reception issues would drive me mad. All local FM stations here in STL are streamable which basically puts the nail in the coffin.

I would really love the FM radio to work.
Streaming is great if the signal is good enough.
But I spend a lot of time in poor signal areas & streaming is not an option.
So FM would be very usefull for me.
That is the only thing I like better about my wife's EVO shift. It has a FM radio.

I would like it to work.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.

I prefer 'net streaming. I get terrible AM/FM reception at work, so streaming is the only way to go for me. I even use it at home.

Back when I first got my Epic, I got a Galaxy S widget for the radio from the European version.
The widget installed, and launched, but reported the FM Radio was not turned on, so could not scan for stations.
I am not sure where the break was, but that was as far I as I saw the testing go.
I too would love this feature, as it would allow me to listen to the radio, in places where I dont have good enough cell reception for streaming.

[Q] FM Radio on Epic 4G Touch?

Hey guys. Okay so why doesn't the Epic 4G Touch come with FM Radio enabled out of the box? I've done my research and the Epic 4G Touch's hardware supports FM Radio. But when I got my E4GT, NOTHING but ****ty Sprint Radio which is Internet Radio! Why is Samsung & Sprint doing this? I paid a good $200+ for their stuff with a 2 year contract and they want to disable FM Radio? And then I even rooted and tried Spirit FM, still nothing. E4GT owners & developers, please tell me how you feel about this issue. I'm kinda pissed if you asked me.

Not to be rude, but why do you need FM radio? It's so...old.
Most radio stations on FM are available online for free.
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.

LordJummy said:
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.
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It does. It's part of the Broadcom chip in this phone that handles Bluetooth and WiFi. It's unused though. I always wondered if an adventurous developer would dig in and find a way to activate it, but it's probably not worth the effort.
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I don't like internet radio... does constant buffering ring a bell? I'm just saying it's not fair to some users (like me) who still listen to FM.

A google search led me to similar complaints from att and tmo customers with S2 and it seems that only the international versions have fm radio. Please pm me is you find out otherwise because I would also like to have it.
For those who say why not listen to internet regular fm radio is much higher audio quality than something being streamed. Also if you are in an area with poor data signal or crowded like sporting event regular old radio still works.

I thought it was an FM transmitter. Not sure though
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LordJummy said:
Not to be rude, but why do you need FM radio? It's so...old.
Most radio stations on FM are available online for free.
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.
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You can listen to FM without having to sacrifice virgins in hopes of playing the gods so that they give you a usable Sprint data speed.
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According to the XDA thread for the app Spirit FM the Epic 4G Touch will likely never be able to support any FM app. I would post a link, but I have not reached 10 posts yet. Do a search for Spirit FM in the forums and the second post in the [APP] thread lists compatible phones. Post #3 states the suspected reason why it will not work;
"Some devices contain Broadcom chips, but appear to be unable to receive FM.
They show unusual RSSI values, that jump rapidly between such values as: -128, 0, 16, and 55.
None of these devices have a stock FM app, nor will any other FM app function.
My theory is that these devices lack the hardware connections to operate, and may even be deliberately disabled:"

try tunein radio in the market; its about as close as you will get...

wase4711 said:
try tunein radio in the market; its about as close as you will get...
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Thanks but I don't want nothing to do with internet radio at all!!!!!! NONE OF IT! I WANT FM!

Yeah, that's the reason I went ahead and got a Sony-Ericsson MW600. Now I have a bluetooth headset, music controls, and FM radio with battery life of upwards of 12hrs. Plus I still have an E4GT, so it's the best of both worlds.

Kn0wBuddy said:
Yeah, that's the reason I went ahead and got a Sony-Ericsson MW600. Now I have a bluetooth headset, music controls, and FM radio with battery life of upwards of 12hrs. Plus I still have an E4GT, so it's the best of both worlds.
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+1
Great headset. I haven't yet had any need/desire to use the FM radio function, though, so I can't comment on how well that works.

this is probably similar to the nooks situation which has a broadcom chip, ive read that there are internal connections of the chip that are missing/broken so not gonna happen.

jajosh66 said:
Thanks but I don't want nothing to do with internet radio at all!!!!!! NONE OF IT! I WANT FM!
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Then buy an international GSII. If you can't fix a problem, you have to find a different resolution. In this case, unless you plan on reverse engineering the chip and drivers yourself, you will be stuck with internet radio. Not to sound rude, but that's the reality
Sent from an Epic in the sky.

I have this one,too. I actually spotted it at the AT&T store last week.
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Att vs n7100

So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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ryj01 said:
So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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I think you hit the nail on its head...except the multi-task.
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I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.

antiochasylum said:
I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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I don't necessarily think it will keep many people from purchasing, but I could see it being useful - I'd certainly use it every now and then.
I think the real question is: why is this functionality disabled in some markets?

I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.

gtalum said:
I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.
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People just look for reasons to nitpick.

We're all just so programmed to want the international version. Up until now, AT&T, along with other carriers have pretty much destroyed Samsung flagship phones by using the crappy Qualcomm chips for processors. I don't know about you guys but I've always been able to tell the difference. It was either Qualcomm with LTE or Exynos with HSPA+.
Well this time we finally get LTE and Exynos. The only advantage the International version has are getting updates fast. But why would you be on this forum if you don't plan to root and flash custom roms anways???
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.

MattMJB0188 said:
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.
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Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
:banghead:
from a galaxy far far away....
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
from a galaxy far far away....

Mad383Max said:
Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
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from a galaxy far far away....
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
from a galaxy far far away....
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We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.

ryj01 said:
So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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I hear the split screen multitasking-multiview is being tested & coming possibly at launch around time of AT&T Note2-early November..
Anyone hear anything on the advertised screen recorder function ?

MattMJB0188 said:
We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.
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No. Lol. Know about pandora. Just got a funny image in my head from the car is for radio statement.
from a galaxy far far away....

antiochasylum said:
I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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The NFL doesn't allow streaming games online. Means I can't get it on TuneIn Radio, but there is an FM station that plays Bears games. When I'm at work, I can listen on my phone if the FM radio was in it. Not a deal breaker, but it would be nice if the US versions were exactly the same.
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I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.

skochw said:
I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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Carrier tampering is annoying..no doubt..F' the carriers, Go Nexus: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
http://www.google.com/nexus/4/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33429515&postcount=4

skochw said:
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.

gtalum said:
FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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My EVO 4G has an FM Radio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjN2IsYnrc which requires wired headphones to act an antenna. Also plugging it into wired external speakers at home works. Honestly I just used it for the first time but it was nice to know I had it just in case (of some kind of emergency etc.). Carriers in the US also are not bundling the Note2 with headphones but Sprint didn't include them with the EVO 4G so that's not likely the excuse either.. Not a dealbreaker for me but carrier intervention is often annoying

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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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I doubt that. The FCC isn't going to block the ability for a device to recieve anything transmitted on a broadcast frequency.
In fact, the GT-N7100 is actually FCC approved for use in the USA (and it includes the FM radio.) Same for the GT-i9300 (international SGS3.)
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
Outside of the US, the carriers don't have as much influence on the phone hardware, and less ability to block these things.
Gary

garyd9 said:
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
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My thoughts exactly. Hopefully someone will find a way to re-enable it. I know I'd use it every now and again.

I agree that it would be nice to have FM radio in my phone, especially after the hurricane that hit the Northeast. What happens when the power is out and even the cell towers are down? My home radio is dead and I don't feel safe sitting in my car during the storm. I'd like to be able to turn on the FM Radio on my phone and hear the local broadcasts to see what's going on.
My EVO 3D has FM Radio, provided something with an unsheilded cord is connected to the headphone jack. My Epic 4G has the FM Chip, but it was disabled in the hardware. I notice most HTC devices didn't get their FM chips disabled, but it looks as though all Samsung FM chips were disconnected or removed.

The carriers block FM radio because they rather you stream music using an app maybe go over you data plan so they can make a little more money off you if you go over.
I remember Some years ago in I had an HTC TouchPro II Windows Mobile phone. It had the hard ware for FM radio but the software to use it was removed. Once the software was installed the FM radio worked.
Not I'm not optimistic that will happen with the Note II. It just goes to show the greedy nature of the industry, that wants to nickle and dime at every turn.

FM radio and phones... very interesting.

Just read and collaborate or take action if you think it is wort it : http://freeradioonmyphone.org/

Interesting. I'd love to have FM radio on my phone.

Many to most have it but it is locked out. I keep my old HTC desire as a back-up phone partly because it has the FM radio.

Would love FM radio, I remember back in the Nokia days.........

You'll have as much success getting AT&T to unlock your radio as the bootloader. I've been buying smartphones since the came to be. First with Sprint. Now with AT&T. For each of the we begged to get the fm radio unlocked. Every developer tried to unlock them. Nothing ever happened. It's a shame. I'd love to have it.

fatlardo said:
Would love FM radio, I remember back in the Nokia days.........
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Years ago I was a Nokia only girl and the radio was the most difficult thing to give up when I went to Android.

Not entirely true that the FM chip is locked. there have been android phones with FM radio capabilities, I owned and developed for two of them the HTC Inspire (DesireHD) and the HTC One X+ all had FM radios built into the system.
no to mention multiple Motorola devices that are FM capable.

The FM chip is embedded into the Bluetooth chip from what I read. Does the Note 4 have it? No clue. I haven't been able to find any source confirming it.

I remember some devs tried for a long time to get the built-in FM radio to work on the original droid. (I get these phones confused so don't quote me on the model.) By the time I got a new phone, they still hadn't got it working.
I was excited about it too and watched those threads almost as much as I watch the Note 4 root threads...

I believe they don't enable FM Radio anymore is due to people complaining their Bluetooth didn't work right. RFI issues I think. I don't know this for a fact, tho.

I believe they don't enable FM radio because they want you to use data, then after you use to much data they can charge you.

I loved the fm radio on my old dell streak. I hope they bring this back!!

I understand where people are coming from wrt FM radio in a phone. I'm fine with cutting it personally. But then, I haven't listened to terrestrial or satellite radio in years. Commercials, low quality, repeating focus group-driven play lists and idiots that won't shut up when I just want to listen to music? No thanks, you can keep it, I'll listen to my own music collection.