Att vs n7100 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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ryj01 said:
So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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I think you hit the nail on its head...except the multi-task.
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I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.

antiochasylum said:
I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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I don't necessarily think it will keep many people from purchasing, but I could see it being useful - I'd certainly use it every now and then.
I think the real question is: why is this functionality disabled in some markets?

I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.

gtalum said:
I don't get the radio thing either. My current Inspire 4G has FM radio and I don't think I've ever used it a single time in nearly 2 years.
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People just look for reasons to nitpick.

We're all just so programmed to want the international version. Up until now, AT&T, along with other carriers have pretty much destroyed Samsung flagship phones by using the crappy Qualcomm chips for processors. I don't know about you guys but I've always been able to tell the difference. It was either Qualcomm with LTE or Exynos with HSPA+.
Well this time we finally get LTE and Exynos. The only advantage the International version has are getting updates fast. But why would you be on this forum if you don't plan to root and flash custom roms anways???
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.

MattMJB0188 said:
The radio (at least to me) is completely useless. As another poster said, thats what cars are for lol.
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Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
:banghead:
from a galaxy far far away....
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
from a galaxy far far away....

Mad383Max said:
Would you kindly point me to where i can get a strap/holder so i can mount my car on my arm as i jog?
:banghead:
from a galaxy far far away....
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Though i got to agree, just because it doesn't have a radio would not be a reason not to buy it. That is why i have mp3s and gigabytes of storage.
from a galaxy far far away....
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We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.

ryj01 said:
So what software differences will the be between the two.
Example:
Att n7100
Lte h+
n/a multitask
N/a fm radio
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I hear the split screen multitasking-multiview is being tested & coming possibly at launch around time of AT&T Note2-early November..
Anyone hear anything on the advertised screen recorder function ?

MattMJB0188 said:
We need to introduce you to pandora or spotify then.
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No. Lol. Know about pandora. Just got a funny image in my head from the car is for radio statement.
from a galaxy far far away....

antiochasylum said:
I'm amazed and how many people care about a stupid radio. Radios are for cars. There are PLENTY of streaming radios available. Yea it eats data I aware of that but still. A FM radio will not prevent me from purchasing.
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The NFL doesn't allow streaming games online. Means I can't get it on TuneIn Radio, but there is an FM station that plays Bears games. When I'm at work, I can listen on my phone if the FM radio was in it. Not a deal breaker, but it would be nice if the US versions were exactly the same.
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I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.

skochw said:
I don't get why there are so many "Who cares?" responses on here. Even if you don't use the feature, I'm sure there are some who do.
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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Carrier tampering is annoying..no doubt..F' the carriers, Go Nexus: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
http://www.google.com/nexus/4/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33429515&postcount=4

skochw said:
The point is, the hardware is likely still in there, and for whatever reason, AT&T is explicitly removing a feature.. That should annoy anyone, on principle alone.
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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.

gtalum said:
FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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My EVO 4G has an FM Radio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjN2IsYnrc which requires wired headphones to act an antenna. Also plugging it into wired external speakers at home works. Honestly I just used it for the first time but it was nice to know I had it just in case (of some kind of emergency etc.). Carriers in the US also are not bundling the Note2 with headphones but Sprint didn't include them with the EVO 4G so that's not likely the excuse either.. Not a dealbreaker for me but carrier intervention is often annoying

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FWIW, it's probably the FCC that blocked the feature rather than the carriers.
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I doubt that. The FCC isn't going to block the ability for a device to recieve anything transmitted on a broadcast frequency.
In fact, the GT-N7100 is actually FCC approved for use in the USA (and it includes the FM radio.) Same for the GT-i9300 (international SGS3.)
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
Outside of the US, the carriers don't have as much influence on the phone hardware, and less ability to block these things.
Gary

garyd9 said:
More likely, it's the carriers who are blocking it. They'd MUCH rather you use paid data allotments for pandora and other internet radio formats. If you simply use a built in FM radio, they don't make as much money. It's not quite "price fixing" - just "feature fixing."
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My thoughts exactly. Hopefully someone will find a way to re-enable it. I know I'd use it every now and again.

I agree that it would be nice to have FM radio in my phone, especially after the hurricane that hit the Northeast. What happens when the power is out and even the cell towers are down? My home radio is dead and I don't feel safe sitting in my car during the storm. I'd like to be able to turn on the FM Radio on my phone and hear the local broadcasts to see what's going on.
My EVO 3D has FM Radio, provided something with an unsheilded cord is connected to the headphone jack. My Epic 4G has the FM Chip, but it was disabled in the hardware. I notice most HTC devices didn't get their FM chips disabled, but it looks as though all Samsung FM chips were disconnected or removed.

The carriers block FM radio because they rather you stream music using an app maybe go over you data plan so they can make a little more money off you if you go over.
I remember Some years ago in I had an HTC TouchPro II Windows Mobile phone. It had the hard ware for FM radio but the software to use it was removed. Once the software was installed the FM radio worked.
Not I'm not optimistic that will happen with the Note II. It just goes to show the greedy nature of the industry, that wants to nickle and dime at every turn.

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[Q] Two Questions Regarding the DINC

I'm loving my dinc. The things I don't like are the invisible screen in daylight and the lack of full duplex on the phone. These are 2 major pains in the butt.
1- Can anyone tell me how the new s-lcd screens compare with the amoled?
2- Is it possible to get full duplex?
marcmarshall said:
1- Can anyone tell me how the new s-lcd screens compare with the amoled?
2- Is it possible to get full duplex?
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1. As sites recently have said view compare to about the same. But I can't tell you first hand as mind is amolled.
2. Full duplex is available. Every time you make a call. That is duplexing. The process of sending and receiving information simultaneously. What we want is multiplexing. And as for that I don't know. It could be software, but more likely it's built right into the phone, or that Verizon refuses to multiplex
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Thanks for clearing up that terminology. When I use my mic my speaker cuts out. I thought full duplex meant you could use mic and speaker simultaneously. Sounds like your saying that is multiplexing. I don't remember having this problem with my Razr. I was with ATT then also. Maybe this more CDMA bullsh** like no voice and data at the same time.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Verizon stops the multiplexing of both voice and data. I think its bull also but unless they change it were probably sol.
My speaker cuts out a lil when using speaker phone.
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Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
marcmarshall said:
Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
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you can talk while people are talking to you during normal voice conversations, but why in the h377 would you want to do that , and how would you even test that, during a phone call on speaker phone?
are you trying to go Alec Baldwin on somebody?
marcmarshall said:
Simultaneous voice and data are not enabled. There is a network upgrade that would allow it but I guess they don't plan on doing it. I'm talking about just being able to have the speaker and mic active at the same time on a call!
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So you cannot activate speakerphone during a call and have the Mic receive your voice input. That is a problem if so. Are you running a custom ROM. If you are, you should report it to the maker. If you are running stock ROM Idk could be software or hardware. Has this problem existed since you acquired the phone?
Never heard of a Verizon network upgrade. Maybe 4g capabilities. Hmmm.
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Actually I noticed it yesterday using the regular mic, not the speakerphone. I was listening to a recorded message and if a spoke it would cut out and then come back when I was quiet. I just tried it again a live call and all is well. Weird. It may have been a transient problem or something that happens with low signal. I thought I just had never noticed it. Neevermind
Sweet. Will you add to the headline [solved]. It makes it easier when in the forums
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Resolved
I will.
Still wondering if I should try to switch to a phone with the newer screen though. Would love to see in the light!
I was kinda wondering about the screen thing myself. SLCD is an IPS panel, similar to what the iPhone 4 offers. I wish there could be an easy way to get the screens changed without having to sell and re-buy, but depending on the difference I may just do that. AMOLED, despite its awesome colors and deep blacks, have too many quirks that I don't like dealing with. Sunlight visibility and sharpness are two of them.
Would love to see some impressions though!
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Just Google surfed. Plenty of comparisons out there. pros and cons for both. For me better visibility in sunlight is important. From what a saw not huge difference there.
I prefer the sharpness of text on the SLCD over OLED
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Never heard of a Verizon network upgrade. Maybe 4g capabilities. Hmmm.
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Nope not 4G, though LTE will be able to handle it for certain. I believe he was talking about the development of SVDO, 3G tech which allows for voice and data to be active at the same time like GSM
Ok. I don't know of one speakerphone that's full-duplex.. I'm not an expert on every speakerphone masse by mankind, but I do know some speakerphones function more pleasant than others... If the speakerphone was full duplex then the caller would here themselves speak.
And in real life that can still happen if the volume is too high.
Nope not 4G, though LTE will be able to handle it for certain. I believe he was talking about the development of SVDO, 3G tech which allows for voice and data to be active at the same time like GSM
Yes. There is a network upgrade available. I think it is am matter of changing cards in the towers.one of it's benefits is simultaneous voice and data.
Here is a little reading on duplexity http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_(telecommunications)?wasRedirected=true.
Of course the speaker it self isn't meant to duplex. The phone it self is duplexd. Hmmm I like the idea of both voice and data at the same time.I'm Gonna have to look into SVDO and LTE technologies
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Currently CDMA does not allow you to use both voice and data at the same time over a 3g connection. The frequency only allows one or the other through, with voice overriding data. If you are on WIFI you can use voice and data at the same time.
Alucardsyco said:
Currently CDMA does not allow you to use both voice and data at the same time over a 3g connection. The frequency only allows one or the other through, with voice overriding data. If you are on WIFI you can use voice and data at the same time.
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As I said, that is no longer true but it requires a network card upgrade at the towers.
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marcmarshall said:
As I said, that is no longer true but it requires a network card upgrade at the towers.
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Any proof?

[Q] Galaxy Nexus wifi death grip again? Probably YES.

Look at this video:
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You can clearly see that, as the guy keeps the hand off the back of the phone, the wifi signal boosts up from zero to 3 bars.
In all the review as well, you can notice that as the reviewer grips the device, the wifi signal goes bad.
Damn it, again, as the Galaxy S2, wifi grip issue.
Thank you Samsung, Aloha Nexus.
There are very few phones that don't do this. To antennas used to be at the top of the device away from your hand, but ever since someone decided phones give you cancer they moved the antennas to the bottom.
I'd rather have cancer and actually get reception.
If we stopped this form over function nonsense the manufacturers could put proper antennas on phones like they used to have. Then this sort of thing wouldn't be a problem.
You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
GiveMe2Beers said:
You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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Skype over wifi ?
GiveMe2Beers said:
You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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jeux_1 said:
Skype over wifi ?
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You're right.
But are you telling me Samsung is the only company that fights for our health?I've used iPhone 4, Nokia, SE Xperia Arc, and Lg Optimus instead want to kill us? None of those had wifi grips issues.
C'mon. It's simply a wifi issue as it was for the GS2.
The 4th Derivative said:
I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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Use a headset?
The 4th Derivative said:
I dont get service in my dorm so i rely on wifi calling... wifis a must for me
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earpiece.
People REALLY shouldnt be holding these plutonium slates to there heads.
A simple case should solve this problem. Not an excuse, nor an apology, by any means but since Samsung can't learn from it's mistakes it'll have to do.
GiveMe2Beers said:
Look at this video:
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You can clearly see that, as the guy keeps the hand off the back of the phone, the wifi signal boosts up from zero to 3 bars.
In all the review as well, you can notice that as the reviewer grips the device, the wifi signal goes bad.
Damn it, again, as the Galaxy S2, wifi grip issue.
Thank you Samsung, Aloha Nexus.
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Pretty much every phone does this. Are we seriously making this thread right now?
bmstrong said:
A simple case should solve this problem. Not an excuse, nor an apology, by any means but since Samsung can't learn from it's mistakes it'll have to do.
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With my GS2 I've tried different cases (Casemate, silicon ones etc.) but this solved very very little the wifi issue.
It's sad because at work I need wifi as hell, and I was the only one among my colleagues (TBH another one with a HTC Sensation has similar problem using it landscape mode) that has no wifi signal.
Cannot spend 500£ to have such a poor wifi
martonikaj said:
Pretty much every phone does this.
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Nope.
martonikaj said:
Are we seriously making this thread right now?
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We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
GiveMe2Beers said:
You're right.
But are you telling me Samsung is the only company that fights for our health?I've used iPhone 4, Nokia, SE Xperia Arc, and Lg Optimus instead want to kill us? None of those had wifi grips issues.
C'mon. It's simply a wifi issue as it was for the GS2.
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Sorry but I don't see any wifi problem on my GS2. I even tried holding it at a ridiculous way and im still getting strong bars.
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Nope.
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Yes, actually. Phones have antennas they use for WiFi, 3G, 2G, etc.. Covering antennas lowers their ability to transmit and receive. So nearly all phones will have this issue. Crazy idea... Where do you propose they put the antennas so that they transmit properly? do you want pull-out or rubber antennas again?
We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
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No need to be a ****.
GiveMe2Beers said:
You don't use wifi when you brings your phone near your head c'mon...
Wifi connection is used when you use web end emails...
A lot of people had complained about GS2 wifi issue and Samsung did nothing in this Nexus, this seems to be the thuth.
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Wifi calling on t-mobile?
GiveMe2Beers said:
We can wait 2-3 days if you like.
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Lol, that's a nice one...almost fell of the chair laughing.
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Matter blocks radio waves!
News at 11! back in 1945.
Man this is going to suck. I don't know if I can deal with this. This might put me over the top.
None of my phones ever had this. I travel alot and I'm giving up one of my phones (always had a Verizon blackberry and some GSM Smartphone) but I can't go solo with a phone with spotty wifi.
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player911 said:
Man this is going to suck. I don't know if I can deal with this. This might put me over the top.
None of my phones ever had this. I travel alot and I'm giving up one of my phones (always had a Verizon blackberry and some GSM Smartphone) but I can't go solo with a phone with spotty wifi.
LG G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
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I doubt its that bad....like wifi isn't going to comletley die when you grip the thing, you'll just loose a bar or 2.
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Even my n1 has this, it loses a bar, big whoop I couldn't care less about this.
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[Q] FM Radio on Epic 4G Touch?

Hey guys. Okay so why doesn't the Epic 4G Touch come with FM Radio enabled out of the box? I've done my research and the Epic 4G Touch's hardware supports FM Radio. But when I got my E4GT, NOTHING but ****ty Sprint Radio which is Internet Radio! Why is Samsung & Sprint doing this? I paid a good $200+ for their stuff with a 2 year contract and they want to disable FM Radio? And then I even rooted and tried Spirit FM, still nothing. E4GT owners & developers, please tell me how you feel about this issue. I'm kinda pissed if you asked me.
Not to be rude, but why do you need FM radio? It's so...old.
Most radio stations on FM are available online for free.
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.
LordJummy said:
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.
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It does. It's part of the Broadcom chip in this phone that handles Bluetooth and WiFi. It's unused though. I always wondered if an adventurous developer would dig in and find a way to activate it, but it's probably not worth the effort.
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I don't like internet radio... does constant buffering ring a bell? I'm just saying it's not fair to some users (like me) who still listen to FM.
A google search led me to similar complaints from att and tmo customers with S2 and it seems that only the international versions have fm radio. Please pm me is you find out otherwise because I would also like to have it.
For those who say why not listen to internet regular fm radio is much higher audio quality than something being streamed. Also if you are in an area with poor data signal or crowded like sporting event regular old radio still works.
I thought it was an FM transmitter. Not sure though
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LordJummy said:
Not to be rude, but why do you need FM radio? It's so...old.
Most radio stations on FM are available online for free.
That aside, I have no idea if the hardware has an FM tuner built in.
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You can listen to FM without having to sacrifice virgins in hopes of playing the gods so that they give you a usable Sprint data speed.
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According to the XDA thread for the app Spirit FM the Epic 4G Touch will likely never be able to support any FM app. I would post a link, but I have not reached 10 posts yet. Do a search for Spirit FM in the forums and the second post in the [APP] thread lists compatible phones. Post #3 states the suspected reason why it will not work;
"Some devices contain Broadcom chips, but appear to be unable to receive FM.
They show unusual RSSI values, that jump rapidly between such values as: -128, 0, 16, and 55.
None of these devices have a stock FM app, nor will any other FM app function.
My theory is that these devices lack the hardware connections to operate, and may even be deliberately disabled:"
try tunein radio in the market; its about as close as you will get...
wase4711 said:
try tunein radio in the market; its about as close as you will get...
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Thanks but I don't want nothing to do with internet radio at all!!!!!! NONE OF IT! I WANT FM!
Yeah, that's the reason I went ahead and got a Sony-Ericsson MW600. Now I have a bluetooth headset, music controls, and FM radio with battery life of upwards of 12hrs. Plus I still have an E4GT, so it's the best of both worlds.
Kn0wBuddy said:
Yeah, that's the reason I went ahead and got a Sony-Ericsson MW600. Now I have a bluetooth headset, music controls, and FM radio with battery life of upwards of 12hrs. Plus I still have an E4GT, so it's the best of both worlds.
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+1
Great headset. I haven't yet had any need/desire to use the FM radio function, though, so I can't comment on how well that works.
this is probably similar to the nooks situation which has a broadcom chip, ive read that there are internal connections of the chip that are missing/broken so not gonna happen.
jajosh66 said:
Thanks but I don't want nothing to do with internet radio at all!!!!!! NONE OF IT! I WANT FM!
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Then buy an international GSII. If you can't fix a problem, you have to find a different resolution. In this case, unless you plan on reverse engineering the chip and drivers yourself, you will be stuck with internet radio. Not to sound rude, but that's the reality
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I have this one,too. I actually spotted it at the AT&T store last week.
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Is there an FM Radio App for the S3?

is there an fm radio app for tmobile's s3? i need an app that uses radio, NOT internet..
No there is not, and you cannot make one. It is a hardware issue. Some Motorola phones maybe have it, I feel like I read that somewhere. If it is for music radio than your best bet would be to buy music. If you listen to talk radio like myself you can download pockecast and see if your favorite talk radio stars have podcasts and download them at home via wifi. That's what I do, I also listen to some well known conservative talk show hosts that some people may disagree with. I pay for access to their podcasts.
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iranz said:
is there an fm radio app for tmobile's s3? i need an app that uses radio, NOT internet..
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You could buy a radio that offers Bluetooth support and stream that via Bluetooth to your phone if you have a S3.
I use TuneIn radio app.
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Bluetooth does not waste that much battery, it will use as much as an FM radio chip would maybe slightly more but regardless you will still bee looking into some extra power drain, and tune in radio does not use an fm radio it still uses data, If you want strictly FM you may not have many options since there is no fm radio on the phone
FM radio and Bluetooth happen to be the same technology. Battery drain would be the same. And, your comment about intelligence and worst suggestions is rude seeing as how you asked for help and he gave you an option.
And, the reason why you can't find a true radio app (not using data), is because Google Play is smart enough to know that your phone doesn't have the FM radio hardware on the phone.
Don_Perrignon said:
FM radio and Bluetooth happen to be the same technology. Battery drain would be the same. And, your comment about intelligence and worst suggestions is rude seeing as how you asked for help and he gave you an option.
And, the reason why you can't find a true radio app (not using data), is because Google Play is smart enough to know that your phone doesn't have the FM radio hardware on the phone.
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i tried tuneln which is very good. battery drain is not a problem for me. and ur defending the trolls and worst advice is rude and unproductive seeing as how you come to me thread then defend the trolls.
and the reason why you cant find a good radio app is cuz samsung wasnt thinking ahead enough to include it in its phones.
Tune in is not an fm radio it is internet radio taht picks up fm stations broadcast over the web, samsung has no reason to give you an FM radio app when the phone cannot receive fm signals
iranz said:
i tried tuneln which is very good. battery drain is not a problem for me. and ur defending the trolls and worst advice is rude and unproductive seeing as how you come to me thread then defend the trolls.
and the reason why you cant find a good radio app is cuz samsung wasnt thinking ahead enough to include it in its phones.
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He didn't troll. He gave you an option. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but you can keep the rude and smartass comments to yourself. But, he didn't troll.
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Why is the same person always at the center of all this trolling BS?
Last warning, i don't want to hear anymore crap about trolls
This is a development forum, not the kindergarten playground
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[Q] I'm about to upgrade from...

Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.
Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
xtacb4 said:
I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
well...
roothorick said:
If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.
xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later
santimaster2000 said:
...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
Androide3 said:
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !
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Exactly !
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+1
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB
Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.

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