How exactly does att detect tethering? Can I vpn? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

I am still on a grandfathered plan and would like to keep it.
When I connect to my work network, it routes all traffic... Vpn and random Internet traffic through the vpn tunnel..
If i tether while I'm connected to my vpn, can att detect it? I would think not since it's encrypted?? Or is there something I'm missing?
I'm worried that tethering would force it to use atts gateway/ip instead of the vpn.
Does anybody know?
Thank you!
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guess i'll find out...
couldn't get wifi tethering working.. anytime i enabled it 'settings' would FC (maybe because i froze tethering provision apk?
so i tried foxfi - and that wifi tether would turn on - but it would change the routing tables of my vpn.. and use normal 4g/att internet
but i have bluetooth on my laptop!
connected to vpn on phone, enabled bluetooth DUN on foxfi - and on my pc when i check my ip on third party websites (i.e nwtools.com) , it shows the IP of my VPN....
so far so good, i hope they can't see this traffic.

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Tethering help needed - Bluetooth access for all Apps or enable Ad Hoc Wifi

I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.
jal301 said:
I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.
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you need to recompile the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc.
If you don't want to do this, most versions of aokp/cm will have it working.
if you are using foxfi, you shouldn't need to worry about ad-hoc
sfhub said:
you need to recompile the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc.
If you don't want to do this, most versions of aokp/cm will have it working.
if you are using foxfi, you shouldn't need to worry about ad-hoc
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I may be falsely assuming that it is an ad-hoc issue just due to what I have read from others commenting on the issue (re: your comment about FoxFi).
I am going to start by trying one of the more recent CM nightly releases (cm-10.2-20131105-NIGHTLY-flo) and do a little research to see what is involved in recompiling the kernel to add ibss to the wifi driver and recompile wpa_supplicant to recognize ad-hoc and respond back.
Thank you for the input!
jal301 said:
I am looking for help to resolve basically the only issue I have not been able to figure out through these great forums or otherwise.
It seems that getting the tablet to work with an AdHoc network is not yet possible. I have seen comments stating that it may be possible through CyanogenMod. Can anybody confirm this? Or has another way been discovered to allow us to connect to AdHoc wifi networks?
Otherwise, does anybody know how to get ALL apps to recognize the Bluetooth internet connection? I have a Verizon phone running FoxFi and I am thethering via PdaNet Tablet when using Bluetooth; using FoxFi and stock wifi connection for wifi. Some apps will recognize the internet connection while others will not. Is there some way to point all apps to the Bluetooth internet connection?
Thank you in advance for your input.
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Does Pdanet create a connection as a VPN or actual bluetooth tethering? If it's the former, there's the reason. I'm under the impression that apps will be able to properly understand a bluetooth internet connection (via bluetooth PAN I believe)
jal301 said:
I may be falsely assuming that it is an ad-hoc issue just due to what I have read from others commenting on the issue (re: your comment about FoxFi).
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When I tested FoxFi it acted as a regular Access Point so normal wifi was all that was needed to connect.
Usually it is the WiFi Tether for Root app that sets of the phone as an ad-hoc connection, forcing the tablets connecting to it to also have ad-hoc support.
OJ in Compton said:
Does Pdanet create a connection as a VPN or actual bluetooth tethering? If it's the former, there's the reason. I'm under the impression that apps will be able to properly understand a bluetooth internet connection (via bluetooth PAN I believe)
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I truly don't know the answer to this. Can you provide some instructions on testing this theory? I have tried the app Bluetooth Auto Connect and set the connection up with the phone as a PAN connection. I can pair the phone and my n7 together, but the stock Bluetooth manager never shows the two as 'Connected' versus other Bluetooth devices. Any suggestions?
sfhub said:
When I tested FoxFi it acted as a regular Access Point so normal wifi was all that was needed to connect.
Usually it is the WiFi Tether for Root app that sets of the phone as an ad-hoc connection, forcing the tablets connecting to it to also have ad-hoc support.
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Then I think it must be a limitation with the LG VS660 phone that I'm using.
The good news is that the installation of CyanogenMod worked! What would have been intermittent connectivity every 5 minutes or so has now been turned into a solid wifi connection. Apps that would have rarely worked on the wifi connection are now working with no problems.
However, I am still very interested in figuring out the Bluetooth connectivity option. For those who may not want / like to go the CM route, it would be nice to have a simpler solution. Plus, my wife has a stock 2012 n7 and I would like to be able to get hers connected without rooting it. Any input on how to accomplish this would be great!

Tethering WiFi with VPN

I have Private Internet Access as my VPN and I wanna use it on my phone to allow me to have a Wifi portable hotspot going through the VPN.... Only thing is, at the moment I am reliant on using my computers VPN applications which isnt ideal if the signal and connection to the VPN drops as I get taken offline and I have to turn cellular data on and off again to get it back up and running....
Any solutions? I have tried that tethering app from 2009 and that didnt work at all. Any ideas? Thanks!
JamerTheProgrammer said:
I have Private Internet Access as my VPN and I wanna use it on my phone to allow me to have a Wifi portable hotspot going through the VPN.... Only thing is, at the moment I am reliant on using my computers VPN applications which isnt ideal if the signal and connection to the VPN drops as I get taken offline and I have to turn cellular data on and off again to get it back up and running....
Any solutions? I have tried that tethering app from 2009 and that didnt work at all. Any ideas? Thanks!
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Unfortunately the stock Android tethering application does not work with VPNs. This limitation is an oversight in the software and not a system limitation.
However there is an application called ClockworkMod Tether that will allow you to tether and use a VPN at the same time. In fact it makes use of the standard tethering application and then fixes up the routing information to make it work.
This application does not require you to root your phone but you do need to run software on the computer that you wish to connect to your phone. Also this only works for USB tethering at the moment.
There are other alternatives to ClockworkMod Tether, if you wish to try them, including PDANet.
Hope it could help

[Q] Hide Hotspot Traffic via VPN

I want to prevent my carrier from knowing that I am using CM11's native Hotspot or Tethering features. I know that they can look at the TTL of packets or analyze the traffic (Windows Update, Steam) to detect this. I have a subscription to a VPN service, Private Internet Access, which has an app on Android. If I enable the VPN mode of this app, will all the Hotspot traffic be routed through it, completely invisible to the carrier?
Searching showed me some conflicting answers on this, with some people saying to run it on the tethered device, and others saying to run it on the phone. I am thinking running VPN on phone, as the packets should appear to originate from the phone, rather than something 1 hop behind it.
kcattakcaz said:
I want to prevent my carrier from knowing that I am using CM11's native Hotspot or Tethering features. I know that they can look at the TTL of packets or analyze the traffic (Windows Update, Steam) to detect this. I have a subscription to a VPN service, Private Internet Access, which has an app on Android. If I enable the VPN mode of this app, will all the Hotspot traffic be routed through it, completely invisible to the carrier?
Searching showed me some conflicting answers on this, with some people saying to run it on the tethered device, and others saying to run it on the phone. I am thinking running VPN on phone, as the packets should appear to originate from the phone, rather than something 1 hop behind it.
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To the best of my knowledge, they could easily know that you are connecting to the VPN tunnel as it utilizes a certain ports. However if it's correctly set up and utilize a secure protocol, all your traffic will get through the VPN and your ISP won't be able to decipher your online activities and your connection type or make sense of your internet traffic.
In other words, you may be using the VPN to connect to websites A, B, and C and send all sorts of interesting information to those websites; or send email; or whatever. Your ISP can see none of that. All they can see is encrypted data that they can't decrypt. So they know you're using a VPN, but they don't know what you're using it for.
Hope it could help.

huge tmobile tethering problem

So I'm almost lost on where to begin. I feel like I have tried everything but here we go.
Sgh m919 4.4.2 rooted stock. Rooted via towel root, Knox warranty void 0x0
Plan: unlimited everything (unlimited 4G lte all the time) 2 lines 5gb hotspot for $100
So for a long time I used wifi tether router to create a hotspot for other devices like ps3s and computers to connect to. This would use my unlimited mobile data and wouldn't touch my regular hotspot count. It worked amazingly! But at some point it started to use my regular hotspot and I was directed to the dreaded tmobile upsell page. Well this pretty much ruined my life because I live in a place that provides Internet and won't let you get your own and it's super slow. Like less then 1mb per sec slow. .. So i have been desperately trying to find a work around. I had countless emails with the developer with the end result being him saying here are some vpns people say they have had success with I can help you no further. So i tried those but it did not seem to work at all. I tried using several vpn applications with wifi tether router. Vpn applications with it all built into the app and you just have to hit connect to open vpn. Then I found these guides and tried this method: http://kingoftweaks.blogspot.ae/2014/03/wifi-hotspot-through-vpn.html?m=1
http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/gu...phone-vpn-gateway-bypass-tethering-block.html
but that didn't seem to work either. So i went back to the past and tried using other methods from before rooting my phone. In the past I would use pdanet+ to usb tether a windows 7 laptop and use the Internet connection sharing function to share the Internet connection from pdanet to a router plugged in via ethernet cable. It worked back then and worked this time, for the most part. You have to use hide tether usage level 1 to bypass the upsell page. In the past this wasn't a problem. I could do anything just as if connected to my hotspot. But now I can't get netflix to work on anything but a mobile device. Not my ps3, computers, smart tv, nothing. User agent switchers don't solve the problem. So this gave me another idea. Try to use the computer as a vpn gateway. So i downloaded open vpn client and tried some free vpns. I wasn't using pdanet at this point. I was trying to connect the computer to wifi tether router and basically encrypt all Internet traffic from my isp (tmobile) using a vpn. So if I start the vpn and am connected to the phone via wifi and share the wifi connection to the router I still hit the upsell page or it will keep on trying to load Web pages in the browser but will never load them. So when I use open vpn client on widows 7 it creates it's own network adapter. So i tried to share that to the router and connect another computer. It barely worked, speed was awful according to speedtest.net . While running vpn I can watch netflix after downloading Microsoft silver light on computer running vpn but not very well. So i thought maybe I could use my computer as a vpn server but was unsuccessful. I tried fiddler in the past but all it did was mess with my computer. I tried wireless tether for root users and the treve mod version, this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/how-to-tether-blocking-fix-t2544487 and several other things.
I really need help figuring out how to get tethering working again.
My needs are complicated as well. I wasn't to keep Knox unvoided for one. I as well would like to be somewhat mobile with my phone. I don't want to have to keep it plugged into the computer all the time to have Internet access. Which means even if i get pdanet working with Netflix that's just temporary. Ultimately i would like to use just my phone but know that just may not be possible.
Ultimate goal: wireless tether using just phone with good speeds, ping/latency.
Acceptable goal: wireless tether to computer and share internet connection through router to maintain mobility with phone.
Temporary goal: get netflix working with pda net usb tethering.
I need to be able to use netflix on ps3, computer, and smart tv.
My ideas that I have no idea how to implement.
Use the computer to encrypt data from tmobile, vpn? Proxy? Ssh tunnel?
Use another phone to pick up the wireless tether router hotspot and somehow force pdanet to use the wifi connection of that phone instead of the mobile data it tries to use normally or mask the wifi connection as the mobile data connection or something. Basically use pdanet to share the extra phones wifi connection so I have mobility with my actual phone.
Ps. When using wifi tether router other andriod devices can connect and use application like normal but nothing else.
Can anyone help me get my tethering working again? I need help really bad and would greatly appreciate it.
No one wants to say it, so I will.
You need to get yourself some good old fashioned Internet access from an Internet provider.
Tmobile is on to your data abuse and put a jihad on your data black hole.
Downgrade your Tmo plan and buy into some Internet access from your local provider.
Pp.
Has anyone found a solution to the OPs concern for how to get tethering working again through T-Mobile? It use to be that you could use an app like: Tether (from Clockwork Mod) or EasyTether (from Play Store) to get around T-Mobile's restriction on tethering; however, those don't seem to work anymore (ever with user agent spoofing) - has anyone found a current solution for tethering on T-Mobile?
No.
Pp.
Whatever VPN witchcraft PdaNet+ uses to hide tether usage makes Netflix unusable on a PC. The way around this is to unhide the tether usage, load whatever it is on Netflix you want to watch (once the red circle starts spinning is good enough), then re-hide the tether usage. I don't know if doing the same will let Netflix work properly on your other devices, as I've never tried. I don't have Netflix anymore, so I can't try with my TV's Netflix app.
It's a nuisance, but it's something one just has to put up with if you're using your phone plan as your home internet. I don't understand the reason this happens. Websites still detect your Windows version and browser just fine, yet Netflix thinks you're incompatible for some reason.
FWIW, Amazon Prime doesn't have this problem.
I also don't know why WiFi Tether Router stopped working for you. It works fine for me.

Problems to create 5ghz hotspot

Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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josehdx said:
Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
Patrick Morgan said:
some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
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Hey Patrick
Thanks again for your answer
I read about that limitation in a oneplus forum but I don't really know how to check that.
Actually, i can add something to my issue
While i am reporting the hotspot issue, i must said i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont want to confuse you
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
So, going back to the original issue, i am not sure if it is a country restriction. I usually live.in Hungary but i am now in poland and i received the device on this last country.
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
josehdx said:
Hey Patrick
i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
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sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
Patrick Morgan said:
sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
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Well. I know there was going to be some confusion.
The hotspot does not work with 5ghz even without vpn.
When i use my home wifi, I connect from my phone (no mobile data) to my vpn provider and then with another app, "vpn hotspot" (root required) i can share the vpn traffic to external devices via hotspot. When I do these steps sometimes 5ghz works, and i say sometimes cause I left the "vpn hotspot" wifi setting as default. I might change some network options there but, those options are not available for hotspot within "vpn hotspot" this is why i am blaming the ROM, But maybe you are right and there is some interference between apps. I will try to flush the settings one more time
I have flushed the rules of the vpn hotspot app and tried again. Working fine with and without vpn!
Thanks
I see.
You are trying to filter your wifi connection at home through your phones wifi and share thst connection to other wifi devices.
I dont believe it will work correctly. you're essentially trying to create a wifi repeater.
You're making your wifi chip do 2 things, and its unable to run two streams at the same time.
It state in the Hotspot settings
" Use hotspot to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data"
If you want to connect to your home wifi with your phone, and share thst connection with another device you must use USB tethering.
You risk causing damage to your wifi chip trying to force two connections on it.
using repeater apps, does cause the signal strength to degrade, (bacause you're using the same antenna to receive your home wifi and to create its own wifi. limiting the bandwith and can cause connection issues over time.
the wifi chips in android phone can create a repeating wifi signal, but they're not made to do it. normally as stock android runs when you enable wifi hotspot, it stops the current wifi connecting to create a new wifi access point. using apps to get around that may cause issues and even damage as i stated above. if your wifi chip breaks due to improper use, it will need a warranty return.

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