Hello
I am totally new user of Android. Using Galaxy Note 2. I have just rooted it. Can any one tell me how can I move apps or at least force new installations to SDCard?
I have used Odin Root method.
Also have tried almost all appstoSD apps on play store.
Regards
I assume you did install an sd card. So what problem are you having with apps like Apps2Sd? Did you go to settings/applications and move them there?
Jed Dignazio said:
I assume you did install an sd card. So what problem are you having with apps like Apps2Sd? Did you go to settings/applications and move them there?
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It doest work and any other apps which says it will bring "move to SD" also dont work.
Yes I do go to setting and than application and than application details.. There is no such move to sd button.
Directory bind also not working..
What size sd card did you put in??
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What size sd card did you put in??
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64GB.. I don't think small will work too.. As I am seeing such problem with other users and even with S 3 users too..
Any solution for this?
I have tried 8GB card too still not working.
RakeshRaja said:
64GB.. I don't think small will work too.. As I am seeing such problem with other users and even with S 3 users too..
Any solution for this?
I have tried 8GB card too still not working.
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Well the more I read the more I see others having the same issue and may be a Jelly Bean issue.
"The ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems"
I think you can still do it if your rooted though with Link2SD . Anybody else care to chime in??
May make me change my mind about the 16GB version.
BUT, I am pretty sure 16 GB is plenty of internal space for apps!
I have tried almost all popular app2sd apps.. Link2SD is also included.
Even have tried Android SDK and used setlocaton method too.
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Well the more I read the more I see others having the same issue and may be a Jelly Bean issue.
"The ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems"
I think you can still do it if your rooted though with Link2SD . Anybody else care to chime in??
May make me change my mind about the 16GB version.
BUT, I am pretty sure 16 GB is plenty of internal space for apps!
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ATM the only solution is directory bind, bund I haven't tried it as I find it cumbersome to use from reading users' input on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550
This works great now.. but thing is that its too restrive .. it work only on SDCard folder.. Its not working for any other folder..
"data" folder where all apps and app data stays.. we need to work Directoryblind for that and which is not working.
nm8 said:
ATM the only solution is directory bind, bund I haven't tried it as I find it cumbersome to use from reading users' input on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550
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No way
After trading-in a Note I in exchange for a Note II, I had to return my Note II to the store, and did the same a week later with my S III.
I see no point at all having a device that just a week after purchase showed the message: "not enough memory to update your apps".
After lots of reading and asking the techs from the store, I found there is no solution, since this is currently a Samsung desition to block this option completely out on their new models, furthermore, they even say it has been done on Google's request.
So wellcome back my HD2.
It's a shame, i'll stay away from Samsung products as far as I can.
Regards.
Looking Glass said:
After trading-in a Note I in exchange for a Note II, I had to return my Note II to the store, and did the same a week later with my S III.
I see no point at all having a device tha just a week after purchase showed the message: "not enough memory to update your apps".
After lots of reading and asking the techs form the store, I found there is no solution, since this is currently a Samsung desition to block this option completely out on their new models, furthermore, they even say it has been done on Google's request.
So wellcome back my HD2.
It's a shame, i'll stay away from Samsung products as far as I can.
Regards.
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Shame Samsung.. I have to live with this.. because I really cant sell note 2...
RakeshRaja said:
Shame Samsung.. I have to live with this.. because I really cant sell note 2...
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What a pitty! They offered me going back to an S-II or a Note-I, at store price of course, paying the overprice from what I got from my old traded-in unit.
Buying a phone is becoming quite a "case of study" where you have to be extra carefull, since you really don't know what you're buying until you have it for a few days, and then i's too late.....
Rom toolbox also has the option of app2sd. You can tell it to send all new apps to the sd card after its downloaded.
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Looking Glass said:
After trading-in a Note I in exchange for a Note II, I had to return my Note II to the store, and did the same a week later with my S III.
I see no point at all having a device that just a week after purchase showed the message: "not enough memory to update your apps".
After lots of reading and asking the techs from the store, I found there is no solution, since this is currently a Samsung desition to block this option completely out on their new models, furthermore, they even say it has been done on Google's request.
So wellcome back my HD2.
It's a shame, i'll stay away from Samsung products as far as I can.
Regards.
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I get low memory errors on my current EVO & hate it. Is there really no reasonable solution? So far the only options offered in the US are 16GB models..? WTF Samsung?
dmonger11b said:
Rom toolbox also has the option of app2sd. You can tell it to send all new apps to the sd card after its downloaded.
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anyone tried the suggestion above????
Titanium Backup
I use Titanium Backup to move my apps to my 64GB SD card on my GN2 with no issues at all.
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Rom toolbox also has the option of app2sd. You can tell it to send all new apps to the sd card after its downloaded.
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Yes but is that on the SGNII or the S2 (in your sig.) - apps2sd works on the S2 anyway
16Gb Not enough???
I dont understand why you guys are worried. You dont think 16GB is enough to store apps. Besides any apps that require additional content download usually go to sd anyway.
My phone (currently) is a second child entertainer - ipad being no.1 ATM, whilst in the car etc - this requires a vast quantity of video (not a prob. With a 64GB ext micro sd sitting on my desk awaiting a suitable wrapping) and games - usually only the 50M cheap/free games, but the kids are getting older - games more complex - use much more space AND I have a son and a daughter - so need boys & girls games. The 16 GB Will not have enough space (my ipad has 24GB of these!)
But I thought about it (after looking a what I actually need)
My main reason for buying SNGII is for work - Internet access, in pocket books, logbook of Procedures done at work, basic office document viewer/editor - the 16GB will be fine for these. (Ipad was good but too big & heavy)
Second reason is really good deals by three for tethering - so I can drop my ipad 3G sim (saving £15 per month), again 16GB good for this - we use the ipad a lot when camping (wife can't miss x-factor)
Third reason is for a better GPS than my tiny iPhone 3GS (on its last legs - will be retired to iPod mode in car) - 16GB ok for this - but on device maps will needs to be on SD
Forth, a camera - again 16GB ok as can set to store on external SD (except bursts - but presume you can move these later)
Fifth - a note taker - this is actually joint 1st - miss my old WM phones (XDA Exec, Toshiba L something etc) and the stylus - notes are only stored on the internal - as I expect these are small file sizes I "should" be ok with 16GB
Sixth - a sketch book - I love to sketch - presume sketchbook pro etc will allow ext SD storage
For all the above I think a 16 GB will be fine, HOWEVER:
- Many of the medical Apps have large DBs - hopefully these will be extSD mountable
- I might run out of game space
The solution I have come up with (and my wife has agreed - surprisingly her idea - well she thinks it was) is Christmas: 2x nexus 7 32GB (due out soon?) one for each child (no ipad mini - the original plan for the kids by wife - STUPID PRICES) - kids tried the nexus out in shops and loved them (because they are better) - so I get some space back!
So.........I'm probably going for a 16GB in the end - it will save me money (currently £36 all you can eat O2 plus £15 10GB 3 contract) by only costing £69 one off plus £36 pm all you can eat, including tethering - 2 yr contract
If I run out of space, I'll root and either swap internal for external or directory bind
I'd get the 32GB right now in a heart beat, samsung would get more money, google would get more money (more space for more apps) but hey ho.
Figure, based on GNI & SGIII that the 32GB will be far away and more expensive. If it turns out it comes sooner, or the 64 come out and I'm struggling for space, I'll sell on eBay and upgrade (tho its more likely I'll wait for the SGNIV!) - if I do game it's usually on ipad anyway ATM.
Took a little while for me to get there, and I'll be gutted if the 32 comes out next week! But I think I've made a decision - probably!
(Please note: I'm not an apple OR android fan boy - I just choose what suits my needs the best - I do like to tinker so am looking forward to android)
PS: Love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM&sns=em
Guess what's the next big thing.....
Looking Glass said:
After trading-in a Note I in exchange for a Note II, I had to return my Note II to the store, and did the same a week later with my S III.
I see no point at all having a device that just a week after purchase showed the message: "not enough memory to update your apps".
After lots of reading and asking the techs from the store, I found there is no solution, since this is currently a Samsung desition to block this option completely out on their new models, furthermore, they even say it has been done on Google's request.
So wellcome back my HD2.
It's a shame, i'll stay away from Samsung products as far as I can.
Regards.
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Have you checked if your neightbour have Samsung phones?
You might have to move if he have a Samsung phone.
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Forgive me if this had been discussed before, but does anyone have any idea why Microsoft would program an OS that supposedly was built from the ground up to NOT support external MicroSD cards? It would seem that in this day and age that it would have been in the top 5 list of "had to be included." Instead they gave the manufacturers their specs for 8GB of internal RAM and that was it. What in the world was Microsoft thinking?
I'm actually happy that Samsung said "screw that" and made a MicroSD slot that was user accessible. That basically forced Microsoft to rethink their strategy, especially after the first patch "fiasco."
Does anyone here have any inside information as to why the MicroSD card wasn't on their list of "must have" for Windows 7? Do you think they were trying to pull an Apple strategy where they can sell an 8GB phone, a 16GB phone, and a 32GB phone to try to make more money?
MicroSD cards ARE supported by WP7, in fact all but a few WP7 devices have them.
What you are looking for is called "removable" & "user-accessible"/"upgradeable" storage.
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MicroSD cards ARE supported by WP7, in fact all but a few WP7 devices have them.
What you are looking for is called "removable" & "user-accessible"/"upgradeable" storage.
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well all the HTC ones use microSD, as well as the DELL Venue Pro, where as all LG phones use NAND, and Samsung uses NAND (with the exception of focus offering an external microSD slot).
The main reason why MS didn't want it exposed is because of the way it uses the microSD card. The use of it in an actual secured RAID 0 format means that it makes the card unusable by any other means making the data secure on the chip. And they knew that people would complain so they didn't want the OEMs to offer it as a user accessible slot, but they didn't enforce it. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing though.
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And they knew that people would complain so they didn't want the OEMs to offer it as a user accessible slot, but they didn't enforce it. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing though.
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I guess now that the genie is out of be bottle it appears that Microsoft will now need to address this dilemma. It appears that people are okay with the idea that once the microSD card is used by a WP7 phone that it can't be reused in something else. I know I'm okay with it if the phone is functional with more space to save music, videos, games, etc. I currently have a 8GB card in my phone, but what I really wanted was a 32GB card but after hearing how unstable it was I held back. It was the inability to use the 32GB card that made me ask the original question.
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I guess now that the genie is out of be bottle it appears that Microsoft will now need to address this dilemma. It appears that people are okay with the idea that once the microSD card is used by a WP7 phone that it can't be reused in something else. I know I'm okay with it if the phone is functional with more space to save music, videos, games, etc. I currently have a 8GB card in my phone, but what I really wanted was a 32GB card but after hearing how unstable it was I held back. It was the inability to use the 32GB card that made me ask the original question.
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Samsung Focus' implementation of SD is flawed either in hardware level or software level or both. There is no problem using any size or type of SD cards in any other WP7 phones not made by Samsung. MicroSD cards have been around for very long time. There is really no reason for a phone, especially one that is designed to take user removeable SD card, to not support all kinds of cards.
Now you have Samsung Focus not only doesn't support majority of SD cards out there but also refuses to accept updates from Micrsoft. It sounds like Samsung has a hatrate against WP7
I think MS saw the problems that Android had with removable storage and decided to require a minimum of 8gb and do away with any sort of removable storage. This makes the OS more stable as a whole.
i think MS did not want ppl to load android on WP7 dvice thats why they did this to the memory card...
They're trying to stop piracy, there's many Android sites out there on the internet that'll give you APKs of premium android apps that have been ripped off people's memory cards and uploaded.
It doesn't help that with Android you have 24 hours to request a refund and therefore can buy, rip from memory card and refund.
It may seem bad to you but from a developer point of view it's awesome. And before anyone goes on about encryption etc, people will find a way to hack through that they always do.
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It doesn't help that with Android you have 24 hours to request a refund and therefore can buy, rip from memory card and refund.
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i believe this is now only 15 minutes, which a lot of people think is a bit too short of a time frame as well. this is why the setup MS did was quite smart, offering the capabilities for devs to implement a trial mode within their full app.
^ care to check facts first. 24 hours?
..........edit .... gate keeper beat me to it.
You can also say the same for IOS, and WebOS. Piracy will come, there is no stopping it.
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i believe this is now only 15 minutes, which a lot of people think is a bit too short of a time frame as well. this is why the setup MS did was quite smart, offering the capabilities for devs to implement a trial mode within their full app.
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which is still enough time to rip the apk and still get a refund.
And as I sit here being frustrated that more devs are going to an ad supported model, I think I have found the reason why....
yea it is enough time to perform that. but to a general user 15 minutes isn't enough time to see if the app was worth the purchase.
the market place needs better search capabilities for trial apps, that's all. once they are there, then more people will start using the trial apps and if they deem it worth it they would buy it.
As you guys know (or if you don't, you will now) that many manufacturers are releasing phones in which do not have an external SD card and are banging us over by providing really low storage option inside of phones. What got me thinking is that there is a 64GB SD card on sale for 40 bucks at certain retailers and i wanted to buy one and then i came out with the thought that, almost every new phones coming out doesn't have a slot for the SD card. Sure the s3 does but i wont have the s3 forever. What would you guys do?
I know some say, turn to cloud but lets be realistic (at least here in the states). For starters, t mobile doesn't have the best coverage meaning internet is not available everywhere which means if you go visit grandma's farm, you are bored to death and forced to play with cows or ride horses (although riding horses should make you put your phone down lol). Lets say you have glorious verizon with its "great" LTE network and coverage. Well then you are stuck at 2GB or what ever plan you have. point is that you are stuck, so once over the threshold, you are going to get rocked with a fee.
Taking a more personal look, my SD card consists mostly of music (7GB, 800 songs and counting..I like my songs high quality ala 320kbps mp3/aac or 1000kbps Flac), I have 2 nandroids (1 for stock TW JB and the other for AOSP...you know these can make dents on the SD card, apps that require large amounts of data on the SD card.) so right off the bat, i dont need a 64 gb but i know in the future (give or take 2 years, ill HAVe to go that high.)
What are your thoughts? should i just get it anyway? what do you think can be done to get the attention of manufacturers about this issue? any other thoughts?
I'm pretty sure that Samsung has no plans to get rid of the sd card slot.
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Wtf? Buy it, and worry about your $40 investment when the time comes.
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Yeah just buy it bro. Just know you can only put music videos on the card not apps. My phone storage is almost full because of apps but I have a 64gb card
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Being a professional photographer on the side... I will give you this advic - nothing less than a class 10 card, and nothing else besides sandisk or PNY
I've heard enough about how finicky the 64Gb cards can be that I decided to go for 32Gb. 32Gb is only $20. If $20 is still more than you want to spend, 16Gb is like, $10 or less. For $10, does it really matter if you're going to use it forever ? I mean, the phone likely cost many times that and has a limited lifespan of its own.
Just get whatever you're comfortable paying for.
I just bought a SanDisk 32G sd card, but it won't mount. When I try, it said blank sdcard or unsupported files. I tried formatting it but I get the same message. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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redhooka said:
I'm pretty sure that Samsung has no plans to get rid of the sd card slot.
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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saranhai said:
Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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That's a NEXUS phone. Those specifications are determined by Google, not Samsung.
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Pennycake said:
I've heard enough about how finicky the 64Gb cards can be that I decided to go for 32Gb. 32Gb is only $20. If $20 is still more than you want to spend, 16Gb is like, $10 or less. For $10, does it really matter if you're going to use it forever ? I mean, the phone likely cost many times that and has a limited lifespan of its own.
Just get whatever you're comfortable paying for.
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I am confused why the biggest concern for people when buying these things is simply cost. Sure you can pick up a 32 GB card for 10 bucks... But when it crashes on you a year from now, and the cheap ones typically do, don't come posting a thread here asking why it doesn't mount or why all of your stuff is mysteriously missing from your card. QUALITY people... Not quantity. Its like putting $30 tires on your Ferrari and wondering why it doesn't handle the way it is supposed to. I have had my PNY class 10 card for almost 2 years now with no issues, and yes it was a little more expensive but it is way more reliable than these cheap ass Kingston and no name class 2 or 4 cards that people throw into these things.
Both of the sandisks I have owned have crashed on me. A 16 and 8 GB. Never again will I cheap out on SD cards. Its not worth losing 2 years or a year's worth of data.
I've been buying 32s and compatible 64s every chance I get.
SD slots will be with us for the long haul.
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That's a NEXUS phone. Those specifications are determined by Google, not Samsung.
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Nexus phones set the standard.
i'm sure more devices will come out without SDCard and removable batteries...
i was actually quite surprised the Galaxy S3 got both good deals, since the Galaxy Nexus had no removable storage..and then HTC came along with their brilliant plan of the One Series...
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Nexus phones set the standard.
i'm sure more devices will come out without SDCard and removable batteries...
i was actually quite surprised the Galaxy S3 got both good deals, since the Galaxy Nexus had no removable storage..and then HTC came along with their brilliant plan of the One Series...
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I totally disagree! I don't think Nexus phones set the standard. I do understand that Google would like to gently nudge us all into using the cloud, but I will go kicking and screaming all the way. I hope they come to their senses and support choice like they should.
Get it.
I think you should get it. You might need it down the road. And even if you don't need it right away, it's still be handy to have. I have a 16GB card now, but I'll get a 32 or higher later on.
And you're right, these lack of SD slots are crazy.
Got the 64GB for Christmas.
If anyone is interested..this is where my sister/brother bought it from...
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...&qid=1356867323&sr=8-1&keywords=64gb+micro+sd
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I think the bigger question is whether we should start training ourselves to use the cloud rather than relying on our sd cards. But I still say the answer is no. Samsung is a big enough player that they can dictate design rather than be dictated to. I don't think they'll abandon these removable parts anytime soon. Maybe in 5 years, Samsung will have their own cloud offering and will force us to use it in lieu of local storage. MAYBE.
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I think the bigger question is whether we should start training ourselves to use the cloud rather than relying on our sd cards. But I still say the answer is no. Samsung is a big enough player that they can dictate design rather than be dictated to. I don't think they'll abandon these removable parts anytime soon. Maybe in 5 years, Samsung will have their own cloud offering and will force us to use it in lieu of local storage. MAYBE.
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I think we really lack the infrastructure to go cloud-only for things like music and movies. The cell towers aren't everywhere - many people can't stream everything even if they want to. People still want to watch movies or listen to music on an airplane without having to pay (or compete for bandwidth if the air carrier is nice enough to let people have at it for free).
I think there are many valid situations when the cloud is simply not an option.
I would buy it. I got a SanDisk 64th class 10 for$39.99 at best buy online a while ago. I am on completely stock with root only and using the apps2external mod by zedomax . Now I have 60gb internal storage and my regular internal storage is now my external storage . Quite convenient...
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CAR1977 said:
I would buy it. I got a SanDisk 64th class 10 for$39.99 at best buy online a while ago. I am on completely stock with root only and using the apps2external mod by zedomax . Now I have 60gb internal storage and my regular internal storage is now my external storage . Quite convenient...
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I got the same card, inserted it, mounts fine, copied a bunch of music to it, works great. However, it doesn't "click" when you press it in, and won't eject! Other than that, works fine. Is there some trick I don't know about? Any advice? I don't want to damage it or my phone in the process of removing it. so far, I've just not worried about it, but at some point I'll want to eject it...
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I got the same card, inserted it, mounts fine, copied a bunch of music to it, works great. However, it doesn't "click" when you press it in, and won't eject! Other than that, works fine. Is there some trick I don't know about? Any advice? I don't want to damage it or my phone in the process of removing it. so far, I've just not worried about it, but at some point I'll want to eject it...
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It sounds like an issue with your phone. Do you have the problem with other cards as well? The mechanism to eject its part of the phone hardware and really not related to the card. My card ejects fine. I just have to push it in and it will then be ejected...
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Maybe its just me but the only things I want now in a phone are a huge battery (ala razr maxxx), expandable memory (16GB with no sd slot is a joke in 2012 with so much hd video and mp3s being twice the size they used to be), and some up to date google software. I dont need a quad core phone or more than 2GB of ram or 1080p resolution on anything smaller than a tablet. My galaxy nexus is still plenty powerful enough to do what I need it to now if only it could last all day and let me throw on 20GB of music.
I would love to see a version of the S4 or something that has no touch wiz and gets updates right from google.
We gotta dreamer over here.
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Battery technology is the same as its been for almost a decade. All they do is add mah. That's why batteries universally suck.
Sd is the past. It's slower than nand and just adds a fairly useless port to the phone. Hate to break the to you but neither of your requests are happening.
Pepper67 said:
Maybe its just me but the only things I want now in a phone are a huge battery (ala razr maxxx), expandable memory (16GB with no sd slot is a joke in 2012 with so much hd video and mp3s being twice the size they used to be), and some up to date google software. I dont need a quad core phone or more than 2GB of ram or 1080p resolution on anything smaller than a tablet. My galaxy nexus is still plenty powerful enough to do what I need it to now if only it could last all day and let me throw on 20GB of music.
I would love to see a version of the S4 or something that has no touch wiz and gets updates right from google.
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Totally agree, one for me too!
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SD card slot isn't gonna happen, because Google wants you to use their online content services rather than fill an SD card with your own stuff. That's why they're selling the N4 for so cheap (in some countries...).
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SD card slot isn't gonna happen, because Google wants you to use their online content services rather than fill an SD card with your own stuff. That's why they're selling the N4 for so cheap (in some countries...).
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thats not the reason.......
they said it is because it can be confusing to the every day user....where are pictures being saved? where are documents going? and i guess i can see that. i just wish they would let us choose to be "confused" or not.
but FWIW, i am completely content with my 32GB gnex...and would actually be ok with 16gb version as well as i have about 21GB free space. as long as i have unlimited data, i am OK with 16GB on a phone. its a little different on a tablt though, as i like watching videos on them more than i do the phone.
as for the big battery, its coming. just wait. although current phones are starting to be pretty good on battery. the Gnex is pretty bad, but even the S3 almost doubles our battery life.
I've been under the impression a large part of it is the costs of paying MS licensing fees for SD tech.
I've got unlimited data so with the exception if the few times I have no signal, the cloud works just fine for me.
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I completely agree on this post. I just got two nexi and sold them both on eBay because I couldn't put my 16GB card in that has 14GB of music on it.
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thats not the reason.......
they said it is because it can be confusing to the every day user....where are pictures being saved? where are documents going? and i guess i can see that. i just wish they would let us choose to be "confused" or not.
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Sure, there are also issues with data being split between internal and external storage, but if you think the Play Store is not a factor at all you are delusional. Why do you think Google only offers the N4 with the rather pathetic storage options of 8 and 16 GB? They should have gone with at least 16/32, but they didn't, and I'm very certain that wasn't just a matter of cost.
Honestly my biggest issue isnt that I dont have storage, but my carrier is giving me less data to use. Something has to give one way or another. Either we need to store things on our phone (movies music tv) or we can stream it. We cant have none the storage and none the data from the carriers the equation simply doesnt work. Personally I would rather stream all my content except most content streaming source's quality isnt good enough. If I want to listen to music from grooveshark I dont want some half assed mp3 rip; I want flac.
Naturally battery life is going to suck, although ive been able to make it bearable with the battery upgrade, a decent rom ( i run Xenon) and franco/lean kernel. Sadly this only makes it bearable though and thats spending how much time and effort right out of the box to make it that? total BS.
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I would just like an SD card so that when I'm flashing ROMs and totally bork my Nexus up, I can recover from the external SD card. The other day during a flash something went wrong and erased my backup images and backup ROM zips. I couldn't connect via ADB to push ROMs or use ODIN recovery. An SD card would've allowed me to recover in a few minutes vs a few hours. This especially makes sense, since a lot of developers use the Nexus devices. It would allow them to recover more easily or boot test ROMs from an external SD card.
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I would just like an SD card so that when I'm flashing ROMs and totally bork my Nexus up, I can recover from the external SD card. The other day during a flash something went wrong and erased my backup images and backup ROM zips. I couldn't connect via ADB to push ROMs or use ODIN recovery. An SD card would've allowed me to recover in a few minutes vs a few hours. This especially makes sense, since a lot of developers use the Nexus devices. It would allow them to recover more easily or boot test ROMs from an external SD card.
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Developers and users who know how their device was meant to be recovered dont use Odin. They use fastboot.
People have to realize, for all that the device is, it is a Google device first than it is a Sammy device.
One more thing, if you couldn't use adb while in recovery, you didn't do it right. 100% sure.
To recover a Nexus, there's no need, AT ALL, for a external sdcard.
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Battery technology is the same as its been for almost a decade. All they do is add mah. That's why batteries universally suck.
Sd is the past. It's slower than nand and just adds a fairly useless port to the phone. Hate to break the to you but neither of your requests are happening.
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Ive been wondering about batteries for a while, seems like theyre long over do for a serious update.
I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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People are hoarders when it comes to data. That's the short answer.
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I don't understand why people feel the need to carry 20gb of music with them everywhere they go. You obviously won't even listen to anywhere near that amount of music in a day unless you keep it on the whole day, highly doubting that. Not trying to be rude but can someone who keeps that much music on their phone try to show me their point of view?
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Thank you.
Same with movies.
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Never going to happen
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SD cards... old technology man. Get up to date. Is cloud storage now. And huge data with prepaid how this phone is to be used since it is unlocked. The best carrier with the best deal. Use the cloud top steam your stuff. Only thing that needs to be fixed is Google drive to stream movies. At that, if you root and install flash you can use desktop site and stream your movies.
I would love to have an SD card. The cloud sucks. When u don't have fast internet in the area ur in, when trying to access pictures or videos from the cloud. Forget about it. SD cards are way better then the cloud imo. I can't store all my games data in the cloud. I have like 10 games I bought but I can't install them because they are about 2gbs a piece. Plus I still have some music, HD movies and photos. So if Google isn't going to give us an SD card. Which I know they won't. At least give us an option for a 64gb, 32gb version of the gsm galaxy nexus. I can live with 32 or 64gbs of internal memory. Then I won't need an SD card slot.
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After ATT has screwed me (took away my $10/mo media net unlimited data for my iphone4), I've decided to switch to Sprint and switch to the GS3, since who knows when the iphone5 will be jailbroken. Plus I really want to play with Android. That said, Amazon Wireless has the 16gb version for $0.01 and the 32gb version for $49.99. So, is double the amount of space worth $50? I have 100gb google drive thanks to a Chromebook so I doubt I'll have any real issues.
Also, are there any issues that would discourage getting a 32gb model (e.g. Certain awesome custom roms only work on 16gb version, etc.)?
Thanks.
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After ATT has screwed me (took away my $10/mo media net unlimited data for my iphone4), I've decided to switch to Sprint and switch to the GS3, since who knows when the iphone5 will be jailbroken. Plus I really want to play with Android. That said, Amazon Wireless has the 16gb version for $0.01 and the 32gb version for $49.99. So, is double the amount of space worth $50? I have 100gb google drive thanks to a Chromebook so I doubt I'll have any real issues.
Also, are there any issues that would discourage getting a 32gb model (e.g. Certain awesome custom roms only work on 16gb version, etc.)?
Thanks.
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I haven't heard of any issues with the 32gb. I have a 16GB with a 16gb sd card. No issues.. I don't keep alot on my phone either way.. You'll love the S3 tho.As for roms, Search a little,, read a few post.. You'll find a good fit for you! Most of all, welcome to the family!
If I had a choice I would get the 32 gb version, I'm a storage space junkie. The 16 gb is more widespread so I see more development related to that. It does have a card slot and 64 gb cards work in it. I have only had this phone for about a month and have only run the stock rooted rom, so I'm not sure if the size difference matters with roms or not. I'm sure someone else will chime in here and help though. Welcome aboard!
32 for sure.
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I haven't heard of any issues with the 32gb. I have a 16GB with a 16gb sd card. No issues.. I don't keep alot on my phone either way.. You'll love the S3 tho.As for roms, Search a little,, read a few post.. You'll find a good fit for you! Most of all, welcome to the family!
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I've already looked through probably 20 different rom threads and think I will probably be installing Blazer.
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I've already looked through probably 20 different rom threads and think I will probably be installing Blazer.
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Blazer is a good one. I've ran it before, Smooth, no issues at all. And if ya don't like.. Just toss another one on hahaha..
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If I had a choice I would get the 32 gb version, I'm a storage space junkie. The 16 gb is more widespread so I see more development related to that. It does have a card slot and 64 gb cards work in it. I have only had this phone for about a month and have only run the stock rooted rom, so I'm not sure if the size difference matters with roms or not. I'm sure someone else will chime in here and help though. Welcome aboard!
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Are the 16 and 32 so different that they are developed separately?
Also, OP, I and many others paid $50 for the 16GB about 3 weeks ago, which was a steal. I would drop $50 for a 32GB without thinking twice.
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Are the 16 and 32 so different that they are developed separately?
Also, OP, I and many others paid $50 for the 16GB about 3 weeks ago, which was a steal. I would drop $50 for a 32GB without thinking twice.
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I don't think they are. Extra space is only difference.. And if i coulda got it i would have. I just don't need that much space tho lol.
I have the 16 gb with 32 sd card more than enough space .I got just about every gameloft game and still have room on my card plus the internal either way you go your still good because a 64 gig card is always an option.
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Well then, I'll definitely spend the extra 50 on the 32 gig version for me. My mother and father are also on my plan, and they will each be getting a gs3, but the 16gb version. I probably won't put any custom roms on theirs, but I might just go ahead and root them so I can just email them .apk files of apps and they can install them.
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Well then, I'll definitely spend the extra 50 on the 32 gig version for me. My mother and father are also on my plan, and they will each be getting a gs3, but the 16gb version. I probably won't put any custom roms on theirs, but I might just go ahead and root them so I can just email them .apk files of apps and they can install them.
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Nothing like some good new-fashioned theft.
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If it was easy you'd of hired the guy at Home Depot to to it.
You don't necessarily have to be root to install apks sent from your rooted device you would need it if your coping from /data/app or something like that I send ppl an apk that isn't on the play store all the time I'm the only person I know that has a rooted device but you don't have to root you other gs3 if your just going to be sending the apk thou email just my 2¢
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Go ahead with the 32Go, do not choose 16 !
If you choose 16, you will only have 11 Go of free memory, which is very small ! Install a GPS software with multiple countries maps, and a big game like Real Racing 2, and you will then loose half of your free memory ... And if you want to install apps on the SD card, there will be no perfect solution to do this.
See my post here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35946156#post35946156
i would totally go with the 32gb for that price. i do admit i am a space junkie. but having the extra space is always convenient. i've tried blazer rom and it was quite good. i moved over to freegs3 only because i wanted to try it out and then became addicted to it. haha. good luck!
Spend the extra money. It's worth it. I'm close to maxing my memory out. It's only 50 bucks.
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Any idea or news on when the 32 GB Note 8 is to be released in the US? Cannot find news anywhere even though they announced as if its being released as well.
I asked this question in the Samsung store in the UK to which I was told that they only intend in stocking the 16gb version in the short term as they deemed it the most cost effective option given that it has expandable memory with the microSD card slot.
I told them that this was of no use to me as I know how quickly I can fill 16bg with apps that cant be transferred to external storage...
I'd say this, rather than the screen resolution, is the weakest part of this and other tablets - a lot of manufacturers are still using 2011 vintage memory allocations on 2013 devices.
My workaround is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244428 but it's a compromise solution. It does deal with the issue of what's actually available to put my mitts on, but I realize I may well be unloading this tablet as early as August once the new Nexus is available.
The only compromise I have found so far is to wait . . . for Expansys-USA to get the 32GB WiFi & 32GB WIFi + 3G version in (links below) sadly they do not have an eta or pricing yet. These are realy 32GB devices as I did ask that question and not 16GB + 16GB microSD cards as some creative sellers are trying to pawn off.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-0-32gb-wifi-android-tablet-247125/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-0-32gb-wifi-3g-tablet-247127/
What I find insulting from Samsung and these retailers is claiming the 16GB is even suitable when clearly its not with today's app sizes and how little storage you actually get 9.87GB. Samsung should be really focused on making a 32GB version more price competitive and taking Apple on with a 32GB + 64GB microSD slot capable 8" Tablet.
If a black or grey 32GB Galaxy Note 8.0 was available on launch, I would have purchased it.
It wasn't. I didn't.
More and more it looks like I will be going with the next Nexus 7 (hoping it is 7.7")
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If a black or grey 32GB Galaxy Note 8.0 was available on launch, I would have purchased it.
It wasn't. I didn't.
More and more it looks like I will be going with the next Nexus 7 (hoping it is 7.7")
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I would still favor the Note 8 32GB,
1. for the stylus
2. microSD
Galaxy S4 ?? or HTC ONE or Xperia Z is still a big question....
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I don't get why Samsung keeps jerking the US market around with 16GB devices that have less than 10GB of actual space available. They know damn well you can't put apps on the SD cards anymore and yet they continue to act like this is 2010 with the memory. Memory is cheap, its so cheap and they could charge $50 more for 32GB or just sell a 32GB version and sell more, more, more. I am watching Expansys-USA for the 32GB GN 8.0 but honestly I wonder IF they will actually get them.
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I don't get why Samsung keeps jerking the US market around with 16GB devices that have less than 10GB of actual space available. They know damn well you can't put apps on the SD cards anymore and yet they continue to act like this is 2010 with the memory. Memory is cheap, its so cheap and they could charge $50 more for 32GB or just sell a 32GB version and sell more, more, more. I am watching Expansys-USA for the 32GB GN 8.0 but honestly I wonder IF they will actually get them.
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thats because they are not trying to sell us (customers) a good product, but to drive out apples market share. The Note 8.0 is priced and featured very close to the iPad mini, with just a slight edge, so that they can make the most of it. FYI look in other markets its the same...
I hope they come out of this and start developing products for the customers (like apple does) and take the lead...
After watching most of the the Steve Jobs Interviews and talks, one statement he made stands out to me...
"we make devices which we can give to our friends and family" that sentence itself has a lot of deep meaning... hopefully someone will
understand it and get on with it...
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I doubt if we ever see a 32gb version in the States, either WiFi only or 3G, unless it is a Verizon- or carrier-branded model so they can fill it up with more bloat, LOL.
I waited forever for a 32GB version of the Int'l N7100 Note II, and even though it was stated in the original product announcement, AFAIK it was never released. Does anybody here actually have one???
Korea's sole version is a 64GB LTE model, but those bands don't work in the U.S. or any other market that I know of. Every "32GB" version of the Note II that I could find ended up being the "16GB + 16GB mSD" from shifty sellers.
And what do you think Samsung's actual cost is for an extra 16GB (a 32GB chip)? 50¢? Certainly no more than $5.
This is really a pet peeve of mine with Samsung. I keep hoping that they will emulate Apple with their product announcements. With Apple, at least you know straight away at the product announcement/keynotes EXACTLY what models will be released including the COST, and WHEN, and WHERE.
ARE YOU LISTENING, SAMSUNG? I really don't want to buy any more Apple products, but HONESTLY, would you blame me?
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I bought 16gb version last Saturday but yesterday found some stuck pixels. Didn't hesitate to call Samsung after sales support and they asked to take it back and in fact nobody cared to check too much if my claims were right. Odin counter had some marks also and the device was not running the original stock FW. Took my money back and now will get 32gb version later this week hopefully
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I bought 16gb version last Saturday but yesterday found some stuck pixels. Didn't hesitate to call Samsung after sales support and they asked to take it back and in fact nobody cared to check too much if my claims were right. Odin counter had some marks also and the device was not running the original stock FW. Took my money back and now will get 32gb version later this week hopefully
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All things are pointing towards a Note 8 in 32gb form not ever being released. Even countries that are advertising the 32gb, don't really mention how much it costs or if it's truly available. I really wish they would've released a 32, as I would've paid the difference to get the higher memory version.
I ended up purchasing a Note 8 yesterday. I had been holding out, but couldn't stand waiting any longer. First one I bought was an open box and had dead pixels and light leak. I paid the difference and just got a new one today. So far so good, but we'll see if no light leak holds true through my 15 day return period.
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All things are pointing towards a Note 8 in 32gb form not ever being released. Even countries that are advertising the 32gb, don't really mention how much it costs or if it's truly available. I really wish they would've released a 32, as I would've paid the difference to get the higher memory version.
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I really hope that isnt the case. I've been following this device for a few months now. It was meant to be me one device to rule them all! With out the ability to store more than a few games though I will still have to take a seperate gaming device for my entertainment, at which point I ask, what it the point of me forking out the extra money? Its already a premium device (vs the NEXUS at least anyway) why would they not want to make it the best it could be with a minor addition of extra storage?
If I'm going to have to carry more than one device, I might as well just get a cheap gaming tablet that will cover most of my other requirements as well and a paper notepad. Far cheaper, and i wont have to worry about the battery life running out for the notes that I need to take.
I really want the 32GB though and will import one from anywhere in the world if I find somewhere that is stocking it.
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I really hope that isnt the case. I've been following this device for a few months now. It was meant to be me one device to rule them all! With out the ability to store more than a few games though I will still have to take a seperate gaming device for my entertainment, at which point I ask, what it the point of me forking out the extra money? Its already a premium device (vs the NEXUS at least anyway) why would they not want to make it the best it could be with a minor addition of extra storage?
If I'm going to have to carry more than one device, I might as well just get a cheap gaming tablet that will cover most of my other requirements as well and a paper notepad. Far cheaper, and i wont have to worry about the battery life running out for the notes that I need to take.
I really want the 32GB though and will import one from anywhere in the world if I find somewhere that is stocking it.
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Believe me, I'd been holding out also. If they do end up offering the 32, that means my current Note 8 goes on sale...lol.
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hertsjoatmon said:
I really hope that isnt the case. I've been following this device for a few months now. It was meant to be me one device to rule them all! With out the ability to store more than a few games though I will still have to take a seperate gaming device for my entertainment, at which point I ask, what it the point of me forking out the extra money? Its already a premium device (vs the NEXUS at least anyway) why would they not want to make it the best it could be with a minor addition of extra storage?
If I'm going to have to carry more than one device, I might as well just get a cheap gaming tablet that will cover most of my other requirements as well and a paper notepad. Far cheaper, and i wont have to worry about the battery life running out for the notes that I need to take.
I really want the 32GB though and will import one from anywhere in the world if I find somewhere that is stocking it.
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I also had my heart set on the 32gb... but as I've been obsessively following this device since the first rumour images were leaked... I just couldn't handle waiting any longer.
I ended up getting the 3G model, and then spent a considerable sum of money on a SanDisk UHS Ultra class10 64gb MicroSD card... which I then followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276193
to make my device believe the MicroSD was infact my internal memory - allowing me to install apps + games to my hearts content.
So while I bought a GNote 16GB 3G + MicroSD slot.
I now have:
A GNote 64GB 3G + Spare 9.87GB storage partition (instead of an available MicroSD slot). :laugh:
If you are concerned about the loss of use of the MicroSD slot, then simply get a yourself a Micro-USB OTG to USB adaptor like this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMRKIIKW22PW7
which you will then be able to plug in any usb peripheral, from flash drives, ext. Hard Drives, to usb card readers.
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I also had my heart set on the 32gb... but as I've been obsessively following this device since the first rumour images were leaked... I just couldn't handle waiting any longer.
I ended up getting the 3G model, and then spent a considerable sum of money on a SanDisk UHS Ultra class10 64gb MicroSD card... which I then followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2276193
to make my device believe the MicroSD was infact my internal memory - allowing me to install apps + games to my hearts content.
So while I bought a GNote 16GB 3G + MicroSD slot.
I now have:
A GNote 64GB 3G + Spare 9.87GB storage partition (instead of an available MicroSD slot). :laugh:
If you are concerned about the loss of use of the MicroSD slot, then simply get a yourself a Micro-USB OTG to USB adaptor like this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMRKIIKW22PW7
which you will then be able to plug in any usb peripheral, from flash drives, ext. Hard Drives, to usb card readers.
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I dont think I will go full blown MicroDS slot use as my internal memory as I like to use MicroSD on many of my devices too much and dont want to lose the ability to be able to pop it out and stick another one in with out having to carry additional peripherals with me. I like to take photographs and shoot in RAW (not that that really makes any difference). While using a cameras screen for previews is OK, id like to be able to pop my micrSD card into my tablet to get a better view of my photos and help me cull the missed shots while im out and about rather than wait until I get home. When shooting at 10 frames per second, you end up with alot of unwanted shots, but its worth it to get that one perfect one!
I've commented and started various threads about the 32GB availability and options for expanding the 16gb memory and think that my solition will be to use FolderMount to move all the data files to the external SD while still keeping the apk files on the internal device.
http://geeknizer.com/link-map-move-internal-sdcard-app-folders-to-external/
That should solve my problem of available space for apps and still allow me to use multiple sd cards (when not using the apps that have their data files on the microSD).
I will try FolderMount on my Transformer over the next few days to see if it does what I hope before going to the Samsung store in Stratford this weekend to pick up my Note (providing I have the funds to do so by then).
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I will try FolderMount on my Transformer over the next few days to see if it does what I hope before going to the Samsung store in Stratford this weekend to pick up my Note (providing I have the funds to do so by then).
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Tried FolderMount. It wouldnt work
My TF101 is rooted with TEAMEOS4 ROM and KAT Kernel. I get an error message of Illegal Instruction when I try to select a folder.
Hope that wont be the case on the Note 8.0
Sorry to hear that for your sake.
Perhaps start another thread focusing on FolderMount... See if anyone here has given it a go.
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Just for your interests sake, seeing as you want to make comics... I found this app last night and had a bit of a play with it. It's actually pretty good. My only wish is there were a few more panel templates... but for getting started, it's probably the easiest and fastest way to compose and format your comics.
You *will* have to generate the panel graphics yourself in another program, but once youve done that, it's a piece of pie adding speach/thought balloons and composing your graphics the way you want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roundwoodstudios.comicstripitpro&hl=en
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Sorry to hear that for your sake.
Perhaps start another thread focusing on FolderMount... See if anyone here has given it a go.
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Just for your interests sake, seeing as you want to make comics... I found this app last night and had a bit of a play with it. It's actually pretty good. My only wish is there were a few more panel templates... but for getting started, it's probably the easiest and fastest way to compose and format your comics.
You *will* have to generate the panel graphics yourself in another program, but once youve done that, it's a piece of pie adding speach/thought balloons and composing your graphics the way you want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roundwoodstudios.comicstripitpro&hl=en
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Thanks and Thanks.
Found a thread in a different forum that I added to about FolderMount and raised the issue in the TEAMEOS Rom thread as well.
That app looks interesting. Seemed to think there was something like that that came with the note as standard. At least it was on the demo unit I played with at the Samsung store...
Simple. Marketing extortion.
Really, you'll see all the vendors playing the same games with minimum memory onboard these days. Memory is after all cheap, so why not offer higher memory versions? Well, it starts with the cellular providers and their marketing plans. The cellular providers, like AT&T and Verizon, will not order or sell any devices with gobs of memory on them. Even if they are available on the global market, the US carriers won't offer them at all.
This is simply clever marketing (or marketing extortion, depending on your point of view) which is designed to force the customer into using "the cloud" for memory and storage. And that benefits the carriers because they charge by the byyte for the data you have to transmit. Clever, isn't it? So they refuse to order the devices with larger memory, and they discourage the vendors from offering them at all. And set a discouraging premium price on the higher memory models because, after all, you can always buy the cheap one and use the cloud.
Ah, but the Note isn't a cellular device, it uses WiFi...So what? The policy is applied across all devices. After all, you wouldn't want customers to notice a difference in devices would you? And if the customer has to use more Wifi data transfer, guess what? More cable companies are looking to charge by usage, and all the carriers are trying to upsell higher speed data transfer. So again, lots of people make more money when they all quietly agree to sell devices with the least tolerable amount of memory.
Why should I need an iPod, when my phone or tablet could carry a hundred gigs of music? Oh, wait, because my carrier would rather charge me for the byte to keep that stored in the cloud, and charge me again every time I accessed it. This is the same logic they use when FM radios are disabled or removed from US versions of cell phones, that receive FM radio for free, instead of subscribing to internet radio in the US.
The big vendors aren't interest in what you want, unless it makes money for them. So if they can force you into spending more and getting less...Yeah, it really is that simple. a 64GB tablet could sell for $50 more than an 8GB tablet. But you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone bold enough to sell it that way.