Will copy & paste / text editing ever be half decent on the S3 or Android in general? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

Will copy & paste / text editing ever be half decent on the S3 or Android in general?
I switched fromy my iPhone 4S to a T-999 and I've been imcreasingly frustrated with the copy & paste system throughout ICS (stock). Some apps don't seem to use the same clip board so I end up having to just type more because it doesn't paste what I copied. Too often it's fristrating to even select a specific portion of text. Even pasting into apps like the YouTube app that Google developed themselves is hit and miss. And no undo function?? Arr. I'm almost considering going back to iPhone because it seems to take an extra 20 steps to do things on my S3 that were a very brief process on my iPhone. I still hate Apple's lack of expanability, built in battery small screen, doesn't work with most of t-mobile's 4g currently, etc. but for such basic functions it can become a nightmare on my S3! Maybe I need to carry 2 phones for the next year or so? Any ideas? Hopeful insights?

salils said:
I switched fromy my iPhone 4S to a T-999 and I've been imcreasingly frustrated with the copy & paste system throughout ICS (stock). Some apps don't seem to use the same clip board so I end up having to just type more because it doesn't paste what I copied. Too often it's fristrating to even select a specific portion of text. Even pasting into apps like the YouTube app that Google developed themselves is hit and miss. And no undo function?? Arr. because it seems to take an extra 20 steps to do things on my S3 that were a very brief process on my iPhone.
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'I'm almost considering going back to iPhone"..... Done in less than 5 seconds! The clipboard should pop up in every txt input. I'm not sure why it wouldn't since it's a system app or feature. Undo function? Just hit the backspace. It might be a hassle if you paste a long paragraph or such. I see what your saying.
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chrisram88 said:
'I'm almost considering going back to iPhone"..... Done in less than 5 seconds! The clipboard should pop up in every txt input. I'm not sure why it wouldn't since it's a system app or feature. Undo function? Just hit the backspace. It might be a hassle if you paste a long paragraph or such. I see what your saying.
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Yeah, worse though, is whenyou try to backspace this paragraph and you hold down the backspace a little too long and ending up losing some text you didn't mean to lose because it speeds up after holding down the backspace button a while. Forgot to mention, keyboard is also laggy in 1st party apps more often (and not doing anything especially processor intensive) than seems reasonable and the netflix app...omg is that the opposite of fluid. And I can't seem to understand why Samsung thinks it's good to have a flagship device's screen have the contrast cranked up 1000% These aren't as big of issues for me as unreliable text editing but are still areas that iOS has pretty much had down from the beginning.
Sorry if I sound like an Apple fanboy, I just like to use what is flexible abd gets the job done, not promote a cult. Sure it might take a few extra taps at times to do something on Android because more options are available, but when it consisitently takes significant additional time to do seemingly simple functions on a smart phone, it's hard to justify it becomes a functionality problem, not just being "less pretty" than Apple's offering.

Hahaha guilty! I don't copy or paste much so I haven't looked into 3rd party apps. Check the play store. You might find a good app.
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I just Swype to copy and paste. Like Swype+c Swype+v. Swype+a to select all
Clicking Swype highlights the word and I delete/replace that way. There are some keyboards that has some cool functionalities that makes typing and editing easier. I don't remember which ones though because I'm so use to my Swype.
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There are also apps on the market which help with clipboard functions. Like clipper +
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I feel really guilty this morning.. I got an email with a docx that had a link in it and no matter how far I zoomed I couldn't click it or copy it to paste it or anything. I opened my iPad and had it open within seconds, and now I'm posting this from my iPad. :crying:

It was much worse on older versions of Android before they made those little blue arrow-tab thingies that you drag to select.
At this point, aside from not liking how "locked down" Apple is with their phone/Apps the only reason I can think of that I wouldn't like using an iPhone 5 is I HAVE to have swype.
Teo032 said:
I just Swype to copy and paste. Like Swype+c Swype+v. Swype+a to select all. Clicking Swype highlights the word and I delete/replace that way. There are some keyboards that has some cool functionalities that makes typing and editing easier. I don't remember which ones though because I'm so use to my Swype.
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I thought the Galaxy S3 is awesome, I love it - but - Swype seems to be glitchy Sometimes it won't let me backspace, I try to delete letters or a word and it just KEEPS putting in a word I don't want. It's like having an "annoyotron" built into my phone Sometimes when I press backspace, it keeps jumping to the front of the input screen but leaves the words!
But the single most annoying think about Android phones?: You can't multi-touch multi-select a bunch of emails - WTF?!? If I've got 15 or 150 emails I want to select to delete/move why the ^&@#$*! to I have to select each one individually???!?!? BlackBerry let me multi-touch multi-select quickly and easily and this was YEARS ago! And there does not even seem to be an alternate solution such as "shift-click" to multi-select the way you would in Windows either?
I expect each new version of Android will make incremental improvements to text editing/input. Maybe somebody will make an awesome notepad type program with slick and user friendly text input/editing which would then have a menu item that lets you use it as an email editor also?
psykhotic said:
I feel really guilty this morning.. I got an email with a docx that had a link in it and no matter how far I zoomed I couldn't click it or copy it to paste it or anything. I opened my iPad and had it open within seconds, and now I'm posting this from my iPad. :crying:
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I remember when I first tried an iPhone it would not let me click links in an email and I thought I should never bother picking one up again. Also I was told that there was no cut-and-paste on early iPhones?

critofur said:
But the single most annoying think about Android phones?: You can't multi-touch multi-select a bunch of emails - WTF?!? If I've got 15 or 150 emails I want to select to delete/move why the ^&@#$*! to I have to select each one individually???!?!? BlackBerry let me multi-touch multi-select quickly and easily and this was YEARS ago! And there does not even seem to be an alternate solution such as "shift-click" to multi-select the way you would in Windows either?
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I can multi select emails and delete multiple items at once. What app are you using? There is a box you can check

critofur said:
It was much worse on older versions of Android before they made those little blue arrow-tab thingies that you drag to select.
At this point, aside from not liking how "locked down" Apple is with their phone/Apps the only reason I can think of that I wouldn't like using an iPhone 5 is I HAVE to have swype.
I thought the Galaxy S3 is awesome, I love it - but - Swype seems to be glitchy Sometimes it won't let me backspace, I try to delete letters or a word and it just KEEPS putting in a word I don't want. It's like having an "annoyotron" built into my phone Sometimes when I press backspace, it keeps jumping to the front of the input screen but leaves the words!
But the single most annoying think about Android phones?: You can't multi-touch multi-select a bunch of emails - WTF?!? If I've got 15 or 150 emails I want to select to delete/move why the ^&@#$*! to I have to select each one individually???!?!? BlackBerry let me multi-touch multi-select quickly and easily and this was YEARS ago! And there does not even seem to be an alternate solution such as "shift-click" to multi-select the way you would in Windows either?
I expect each new version of Android will make incremental improvements to text editing/input. Maybe somebody will make an awesome notepad type program with slick and user friendly text input/editing which would then have a menu item that lets you use it as an email editor also?
I remember when I first tried an iPhone it would not let me click links in an email and I thought I should never bother picking one up again. Also I was told that there was no cut-and-paste on early iPhones?
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Yeah I don't have that problem with Swype beta... actually never had problems with it.... maybe fingers are too fat? lol
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Related

coming from iPhone

I am comfortable with my iPhone and have nothing against AT&T. I am thinking of moving to the EVO for its large screen and less expensive family plans.
However, I am afraid I may miss features I am used to having on my iPhone.
Can anyone answer these two questions I haven't found answers to yet?
1. Do you from you list of contacts pick a list called favorites to more easily dial from than going through all contacts?
2. While typing (or replying to) email, can you select a block of text and then cut and paste it?
If anyone who knows both phones knows of other things I may miss from the iPhone let me know please. I went to the Sprint store yesterday but the sales person really wasn't helpful - he tried but did not know a lot.
HTC Sense has a favorite's widget you can use and there is a list of favorites when you bring up your contact list as well. I don't personally use it but some might find it handy.
Selecting text is definitely different than the iphone...it's not somthing I've found myself doing often so I can't answer that personally but I know the option is there to enter a "Select Text" mode when you long press on some text.
I came from the iPhone and left it when the 3Gs came out and the thing you'll probably need adjusting to is the game selection...android market is improving on that but it's not been around as much so it's lagging a little behind in that aspect.
Lastly, the one thing I missed absolutely most when I made the switch was the keyboard...I've yet to find a keyboard that does prediction as good at the iPhone's keyboard for the tap-to-type method.
However, if you're willing to try a different method, Swype has some distinct advantages for typing on a screen (look once for the first letter in a word and look away while dragging your thumb around the screen in the rough shape of where you think the keys would be and it works great for me).
Ultimately, I would conclude that the phones are just different...it's like going from Mac (in it's current incarnation) to Linux. There's some things they do share in common but a lot of what they do, they just do it differently and both pretty well.

TouchWiz - Multitask Schmultitask!

Hello guys,
yesterday I used the Samsung Memo to write a few phone numbers down, I was going to call them all later and didnt want to create new contacts for these people, so copied the first number, pressed home button, went to the phone app pasted the number and dialed. Good.
then I used the hold pressing the home button and flipped over to the memo app again. A BLANK PAGE greeted me... ie, there was no multitasking, the app cleared itself when I returned to home via the home button.
so how is this (NON) multitasking better than my wife's iphone?
hmmm, perhaps not?
livegod said:
Hello guys,
yesterday I used the Samsung Memo to write a few phone numbers down, I was going to call them all later and didnt want to create new contacts for these people, so copied the first number, pressed home button, went to the phone app pasted the number and dialled. Good.
then I used the hold pressing the home button and flipped over to the memo app again. A BLANK PAGE greeted me... ie, there was no multitasking, the app cleared itself when I retuned to home via the home button.
so how is this (NON) multitasking better than my wife's iphone?
hmmm, perhaps not?
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Did you go back by home or back button?
And please, this is not a dev topic...
livegod said:
Hello guys,
yesterday I used the Samsung Memo to write a few phone numbers down, I was going to call them all later and didnt want to create new contacts for these people, so copied the first number, pressed home button, went to the phone app pasted the number and dialled. Good.
then I used the hold pressing the home button and flipped over to the memo app again. A BLANK PAGE greeted me... ie, there was no multitasking, the app cleared itself when I retuned to home via the home button.
so how is this (NON) multitasking better than my wife's iphone?
hmmm, perhaps not?
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Wrong forum. Shoo!
I'll answer your question though: The Samsung apps are not well made. Search the market for 'notes' and use a better one. Just because the app is included, doesn't mean it's any good. The market is there for a reason - in fact, it's the whole point of Android.
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Did you go back by home or back button?
And please, this is not a dev topic...
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You can use either with the memo app, it will lose whatever was there when you come back.
RyanZA said:
Wrong forum. Shoo!
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oops, wrong forum, sorry, I had two tabs open on the browser and created a new topic in the wrong one...
so would it follow that android does not natively multitask, like ANY app in windows would keep your info if you Alt-Tabbed to another app then back again? it seems that APPS have to be written for multitasking as much as iOS ones do.
tx for other app tip, will check it out.
Mark.
Android has no problem with multitask, in fact, it has the better multitask-system that could exists (maybe the WebOS is better...).
When you develop an application for android, you have to choose what happens when the user press the "Home" button. Usually, developers chooses to backup the state of the application for the next launch (= multitask without memory usage).
But Samsung, for the Memo app, just choosed to... close definitely the App. That's all
But there is a lot of "Memo-like" apps in the market (for free) wich doesn't have this issue.
(excuse my english)
pocketjpaul said:
Android has no problem with multitask, in fact, it has the better multitask-system that could exists (maybe the WebOS is better...).
When you develop an application for android, you have to choose what happens when the user press the "Home" button. Usually, developers chooses to backup the state of the application for the next launch (= multitask without memory usage).
But Samsung, for the Memo app, just choosed to... close definitely the App. That's all
But there is a lot of "Memo-like" apps in the market (for free) wich doesn't have this issue.
(excuse my english)
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meego multitask-system is WAY better than the android one (real multitasking).
and symbian's too is pretty good (real multitasking).
I hate both android and iphone fake multitasking.
RyanZA said:
Wrong forum. Shoo!
I'll answer your question though: The Samsung apps are not well made. Search the market for 'notes' and use a better one. Just because the app is included, doesn't mean it's any good. The market is there for a reason - in fact, it's the whole point of Android.
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You can use either with the memo app, it will lose whatever was there when you come back.
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I can go back to memo and not lose it.
Op Learn how to use the phone. Then complain. Can your wifes I phone run run widgets? Customize the home screen? Change icons? Change launcher and lockscreen? Can you bind secondary functions to hardware buttons and soft keys to navigate to common functions faster? Do the notification interfere with what you are in the middle of? Is it dlna certified? Can it text to contact groups? Run google voice and transcribe your voicemail to text? Does it take panoramic photos? Play windows media? Does it take ota updates? I can go on....
The old iphone's lack of multitasking helped to idiot proof it and save battery which is what some people need. the idea of multitasking in ios 4 scares me. Ask those simple people that have no need for a smart phone other than its trendyness trying to do two things at once!
Android takes getting used to. It doesn't do anything for you, you are in control and that can be its strength as well as weakness.
You should be able to go to the home screen during a call and re-enter the dialer from the phone icon in the tray to add contacts without affecting the ongoing call. To re-enter the call you go through the notification bar.
(call will still be active but to get to the speaker phone and touch tone contols and have the proximity sensor turn the the screen off when phone is at you ear you go through the notification bar, or maybe the long press home method but I never tried that)
Hitting the back buton exits and is a necessary evil as a way not to leave apps running but not knowing that back kills the app and home doesn't will have you saying WTF all the time.
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drowne said:
meego multitask-system is WAY better than the android one (real multitasking).
and symbian's too is pretty good (real multitasking).
I hate both android and iphone fake multitasking.
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well yeah the symbian "real" multitasking is so graet that if you leave 2 apps open you can hardly make a call.
btw as mentioned before in android theres real multitasking its just up to the developer.
some apps like motonav go on running when you open another app and you can hear the voice directions.
but thank god most apps dond do so. i dont want my nfs shift to run in the background while im trying to run another game
Just the other day i was thinking of a way to implement a webos like card interface and i had an idea.
Is it possible to create a large widget showing open apps with a card like style and a screenshot of the app taken while pressing the home button?
I'm not a programmer so i am simply asking if this is possible.
Swipe to close could be another nice feature to it.
If this is possible and there is a programmer willing to try please contact me.
drowne said:
meego multitask-system is WAY better than the android one (real multitasking).
and symbian's too is pretty good (real multitasking).
I hate both android and iphone fake multitasking.
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dude, who lied to you by saying that android didnt have true multitasking? go back and document urself before saying such insanities here!!
drowne said:
meego multitask-system is WAY better than the android one (real multitasking).
and symbian's too is pretty good (real multitasking).
I hate both android and iphone fake multitasking.
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I don't know about Meego, but Symbian multitasking is as basic as it gets. Run a couple of apps in the background, then try browsing the net in Opera Mobile. 5 Minutes later with 3 tabs open Opera has to shut down due to no memory left. Nice real multitasking
Should be better with Symbian 3, but it's still a basic system that may have to shut down apps and lose work.
I'm looking forward to Meego's release though, finally some decent competition for Android. Kinda sad that Meamo is abandoned due to it though.
There's nothing fake about Android multitasking. A developer chooses what happens to the app when the use hits the back key or home key. Usually it exits when the back key is hit, or goes to the background when the home key is hit.
Different apps may work differently, it's up to the developer to decide. If an app has to shut down due to low memory, it can save its state first so that you don't lose anything.
Can't blame Android for Samsung's crappy memo app.
Maddmatt said:
I don't know about Meego, but Symbian multitasking is as basic as it gets. Run a couple of apps in the background, then try browsing the net in Opera Mobile. 5 Minutes later with 3 tabs open Opera has to shut down due to no memory left. Nice real multitasking
Should be better with Symbian 3, but it's still a basic system that may have to shut down apps and lose work.
I'm looking forward to Meego's release though, finally some decent competition for Android. Kinda sad that Meamo is abandoned due to it though.
There's nothing fake about Android multitasking. A developer chooses what happens to the app when the use hits the back key or home key. Usually it exits when the back key is hit, or goes to the background when the home key is hit.
Different apps may work differently, it's up to the developer to decide. If an app has to shut down due to low memory, it can save its state first so that you don't lose anything.
Can't blame Android for Samsung's crappy memo app.
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I don't know what you are doing but Symbian has REAL multitasking, not matter how much you don't like it. The sluggish response (in SOME phones) is a HARDWARE limitation, not the OS, that despite being old, it's a very capable OS.
Arkymedes said:
I don't know what you are doing but Symbian has REAL multitasking, not matter how much you don't like it. The sluggish response (in SOME phones) is a HARDWARE limitation, not the OS, that despite being old, it's a very capable OS.
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And the hardware comes with the OS! What is the consumer supposed to do about that? They buy the OS and phone as a package and Nokias packages are underpowered, short on memory and as buggy as hell.
ROFLMAO!
Arkymedes said:
I don't know what you are doing but Symbian has REAL multitasking, not matter how much you don't like it. The sluggish response (in SOME phones) is a HARDWARE limitation, not the OS, that despite being old, it's a very capable OS.
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I know it's real multitasking, I was just mocking how badly it handles low memory. At least with Android apps can save their state in that situation, and the app you are actually using is the last one that would be closed.
I expect Symbian 3 to improve that though.
Android mutitasking isn't any less real than the rest. It just works differently. If it goes wrong then it can generally be blamed on the app, since they have full control of what happens in various situations. Unlike Symbian where they can just get shut down without a chance to save anything.
Samsung just didn't program their memo app to save its state. Theres better apps to do the job.
Which of all these posts are related to development you say?
And now for the off-topic:
@OP: Don't get me wrong, not trying to be rude or anything, but you really don't understand yet how the phone works. If you hold the home button and switch between applications the text will be there when you go back. That's multitasking, as simple as that. If samsung's applications are crap that's another thing (which btw I agree, 42mb on apps removed from jpc and still works like crap, will try a fresh froyo build and see what happens then),
All this should be on the general section. Any mod out there willing to move this thread out of the dev forum please?
Regards
toca79 said:
Just the other day i was thinking of a way to implement a webos like card interface and i had an idea.
Is it possible to create a large widget showing open apps with a card like style and a screenshot of the app taken while pressing the home button?
I'm not a programmer so i am simply asking if this is possible.
Swipe to close could be another nice feature to it.
If this is possible and there is a programmer willing to try please contact me.
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This is possible. You can catch draws, as well as everything else that would be needed. It would probably need a homescreen replacement.
Basic idea: catch when an app is going to background, call a draw to an offscreen buffer, then show it on the mainscreen as a screenshot. Not sure how easy any of this would be, since I've never tried to make a homescreen replacement.
Finguz said:
And the hardware comes with the OS! What is the consumer supposed to do about that? They buy the OS and phone as a package and Nokias packages are underpowered, short on memory and as buggy as hell.
ROFLMAO!
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Are you kidding me? Did you read before posting?
By your great conclusion, so Android should have the same performance on the HTC Tattoo and the Galaxy S right?
The point is, there are different hardwares with the same OS. You cannot compare an N82 with a C7 right? sigh...
Troll .
RyanZA said:
This is possible. You can catch draws, as well as everything else that would be needed. It would probably need a homescreen replacement.
Basic idea: catch when an app is going to background, call a draw to an offscreen buffer, then show it on the mainscreen as a screenshot. Not sure how easy any of this would be, since I've never tried to make a homescreen replacement.
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Well, glad to know that my idea is doable, the only problem is that i lack the skills, and even the tools to make something like this (any suggestion appreciated).
Hope some developer likes my idea and tries to realize it
lol, this thread is very, very stupid but nevertheless i want to throw in my 5 cents:
android has real multitasking. the system however can kill an app at any time when it feels like it needs the resources, this is maybe what happened to the OP. bad work by samsung because it could have saved the state to "disk". stupid of the OP because he obviously didn't push "save". good night and good luck!

Copy and Paste "Limitations"

http://blog.walshie.me/2011/01/25/forthcoming-windows-phone-update-the-bits-that-are-real/
This just in.
I don't see a major problem but here's the news for you!
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
Well, you are reading it wrong. The stuff is about third party applications. It doesn't say anything about native apps, so we don't know how it will function and where.
As regards third party apps, there's nothing wrong with using a control designed for text, for, er, displaying text. That's the way it should be. Not everything should be selectable, and it isn't selectable in all OSes including "big" Windows.
MartyLK said:
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
I read from the article that in 3rd party apps you'll be able to c&p only text from text boxes. So you can't copy twitter tweet right from the timeline.
So apparently you'll be able to c&p whatever you want from text boxes,
Plus probably other displayed content from native apps.
So I think not a huge problem here.
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
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Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
MartyLK said:
Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
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I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
PG2G said:
I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
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Cool. Appreciate the update.
MartyLK said:
I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
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Anywhere you can select text, like you can in the browser, should work. Text messages (unless they change it) you would have to go through the motions of choosing Forward from the longpress menu then select the text from the text box; a bit long-winded but doable.
If Microsoft can add the function I would imagine DEVs could also make use of it in their apps. I could be wrong.
Yeah, they're talking about how devs can modify their text fields to utilize the C&P feature when they update their apps.
Hope they actually do this...
Thanks for the post. Been waiting for this.
This, while exactly what I expected after hearing what Mr. Kindel had to say, is a downer. Now, I don't use cut'n'paste that often on phones, but when I do it's almost exclusively from non-edit controls.
I would also have expected a way to copy'n'paste images considering they see Office as such a big thing, and TBH I quite often paste product images into OneNote on the computer - which syncs perfectly to the phone. Of course you're unable to edit the photo note on the phone, but just being able to cut'n'paste them would be great still.
TBQH this looks more like a half-assed implementation done quickly to get an update out the door.
If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
foxbat121 said:
...Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
Casey_boy said:
Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
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I must say the virtual cursor on WP7 is pretty nicely implemented.
Android sucks compared to this and is a pain sometimes.
I guess you guys haven't tried 2.3 or any new samsung devices. Copy and paste, and the cursor is very finger friendly.
I have used cursor on Android 2.2. It is much better than 2.1 but still copy-n-paste largely dependent on app's implementation.
Capacity touch screens are inheritally inaccurate. Cursors make it less painful to use but can't eliminate that inaccuracy. You just got a tool to let you fine tune your selection. It still takes multiple tries to accomplish the job. And god forbid, if you want to select a paragrah out (multiple lines) of an email, that cursor won't be much help to you.
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If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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You already could select and hold and image to save it, then go to One Note and insert it.
I remember holding the.control button on WM devices and selecting/copying multiple items. Those were the days.

Android 4.2 keyboard swype like feature

Just trying out the new keyboard and swype feature. Does it support multi finger swype? sort of like keymonk.
It seems to support it to some degree, but it's sketchy at best. Just curious what everyone else is experiencing.
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not sure about the two finger swype but regular swiping is working much better for me than the latest official swype beta...
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Interesting. I haven't used it long enough to compare it to swype. I stopped using swype though because I eventually got frustrated with it. Good to hear you find it better!
I'll keep playing with it.
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Is there any way to turn this feature on, on any other keyboard than the US one? Im from Finland and id be very happy to be able to try this feature.
Not to sure to be honest. I guess Google isn't supporting other languages with their swype feature yet?
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I'm using the swipe feature now, I love it. I could never get in to Swype, but I got into the feature with the 4.2 keyboard straight away
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Is almost perfect, to not say perfect, because sure Google improves it more.
This is being written with the "swype" feature in my Galaxy Nexus. Too fast, and can be used with another languages. The system detects the route and compares it with the dictionary. Almost always it detect the right word. Sometimes (very few!) it detects another word, so click in the corrector and add the correct. If you enter some word with orthographic errors, it detects it and is introduced and corrected perfectly, like if you are using the normal keyboard. Is good also with punctuation and spaces.
Using it in vertical position and perfect, always I wrote in vertical in old keyboard I have lots of errors because my big fingers. Since I have installed Android 4.2, I don't needed to use the landscape mode, so I'm happy to see how I can write now at the speed of thunder and chat without getting angry
Thanks Google!
Raikkon35 said:
Is almost perfect, to not say perfect, because sure Google improves it more.
... I'm happy to see how I can write now at the speed of thunder and chat without getting angry
Thanks Google!
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If the new keyboard keeps people from getting angry when they chat - it should be mandatory for XDA posters.
Frankly I hate it. It makes no sense in my mind to drag my finger over letter that I don't need for a word, yet through which I have to go in order to get to the next letter I need... I'd much rather type normally
I've got last update for my Galaxy Nexus and now I'm on 4.2, i cant find anywhere Swype keyboard ..its on English (U.S.A) keyboard
Why?
It's just called android keyboard, that now allows swiping. Swype is a third party keyboard you really don't need anymore.
idbaghera said:
I've got last update for my Galaxy Nexus and now I'm on 4.2, i cant find anywhere Swype keyboard ..its on English (U.S.A) keyboard
Why?
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Ok i understand is not calling swype on nexus, but android keyboard not working like a swype keyboard, thats is the problem...
Edit, its working just in Englis (USA) language
10x man
euskalzabe said:
Frankly I hate it. It makes no sense in my mind to drag my finger over letter that I don't need for a word, yet through which I have to go in order to get to the next letter I need... I'd much rather type normally
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I'm way faster on Swype. I hate trying to hit each key perfectly and and/or moving my hand to enter the suggested. But to each his own.
I have to try this new swipe since people seem to like it.
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Did they add in any variety of custom dictionary sync? That's one thing I really like about the version of Swype I have now. I no longer need to re-teach the keyboard all the technical jargon every time I get a new device.
i got some issue with the newz android keyboard, sometimes the word are show twice
The personal dictionary allows you to add words directly (Skype doesn't), but I don't think it works. I added a few email addresses and typing the first 2-3 letters don't bring up the address. Swype had problems with words beginning with a number, so does android. I find android just as accurate. I like having a "." on the numeric keyboard that's not on Swype.
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Did they add in any variety of custom dictionary sync? That's one thing I really like about the version of Swype I have now. I no longer need to re-teach the keyboard all the technical jargon every time I get a new device.
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I like it...
never used Swype before because it seemed a bit counter-intuitive, but really like it on the nexus 7 (possibly because typing is a pain normally)
I can see why some people will hate it, mind - some people hate predictive text for similar reasons.
I spent some time with swipe. It's pretty accurate but just feels clunky in places. What I really missed though was the shortcuts that Swype has like swiping from the Swype key to the 5 key to bring up a number pad and swiping from the Swype key to the shift key to change case. And I don't like having to change keyboards to enter numbers. I like the convention of a long hold to get numbers and common punctuation like in Swype.
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My version of Swype has a '.' on the numberpad. Are you actually referring to the number pad (accessed by swyping from the Swype key to the #5 or long pressing on the "123" key) or the symbol/number keyboard accessed by quick pressing on the "123" key?
Swype also lets you add to the dictionary--it just does it whenever you key in a new word, as opposed to having you specifically go through the hassle of adding words to the dictionary. That's why I was impressed with the versions of Swype that sync online--so I don't need to re-teach it words I've already taught it on other devices.
The personal dictionary allows you to add words directly (Skype doesn't), but I don't think it works. I added a few email addresses and typing the first 2-3 letters don't bring up the address. Swype had problems with words beginning with a number, so does android. I find android just as accurate. I like having a "." on the numeric keyboard that's not on Swype.
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Ahhh forgot about the actual numpad. I always found it easier to press the 123 key, and don't think there's a "." there.
The android keypad lets you add words as you're typing too, I just find the "+" in the dictionary more convenient (at least on initial set-up). I also like the nicknames you can add to the personal dictionary, for "words" that Swype doesn't recognize (or suggest)... Like I have "[email protected]" as an email, if it's in Swype dictionary it won't come up as a suggestion, but in android, set a nickname like "mrk" or anything you want, and the suggestion will pop up.
I have nothing against Swype, used it for a year, I just find "little" things about android I like better. I don't type a lot, so may not know all the secrets to Swype (or Android). I do like the new Swype theme options!
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My version of Swype has a '.' on the numberpad. Are you actually referring to the number pad (accessed by swyping from the Swype key to the #5 or long pressing on the "123" key) or the symbol/number keyboard accessed by quick pressing on the "123" key?
Swype also lets you add to the dictionary--it just does it whenever you key in a new word, as opposed to having you specifically go through the hassle of adding words to the dictionary. That's why I was impressed with the versions of Swype that sync online--so I don't need to re-teach it words I've already taught it on other devices.
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[Q] iPhone users. What do you miss?

*****UPDATED 11/30/12*****
tl;dr -- It was the best freaking decision I've ever made in my cellular life.
Things we miss:
- iMessage (Use something like Kik as an alternative)
- iLife and iWork for iOS (Various replacements. I started using ePrint by HP for my wireless printing needs. Works almost as well)
- Game Selection (I work on my phone, so playing games doesn't affect me much, but a lot of the core games are still there)
Things you gain from the switch:
- Bigger screen for easier reading.
- Battery life is omg good.
- The cameras are just as good in my opinion. Low light shots are grainy.
- S Pen is really useful for taking notes in a pinch. Pull it out, jot the note, put it back, note autosaves.
- Other S Pen functionality is really nice. Things like previews in the calendar, cutting out parts of the screen to save in notes, etc.
- Performance is bar none better 10-fold perceptively. I never have a moment of hesitation on my phone.
- Tops out at 128GB (Eat that 16GB iPhone 5)
- Size doesn't really hurt your pocket that badly. Bigger screen catches the bosses attention. I have had more than one comment at work about how I take my job seriously being ready for anything like that.
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I have an iPhone 5 presently and have been debating for several days now whether of not I want to get the Note 2. I have watched Phonedogs comparison and read article after article and it feels like the phones pretty well break even. So I thought I'd ask some former iPhone users about their experience with their switch.
I have Apple TVs and Airport Expresses all over the place. I stream things almost exclusively while I'm at home. I also mirror my phone to the TV at night laying in bed (doing that now typing this). That being said, I know android has apps that support airplay but not necessarily a screen mirroring solution short of VNC that would require a PC hooked up to my TV and a whole lot more of an inconvenience to get fired up.
I don't know what android has that is directly on par with iWork for iOS. I love typing up documents, syncing them to my phone with iCloud, and being able to edit and print them from my phone wireless on practically any and all wireless printers regardless of brand. iWork for iOS works completely and with a full feature set that I don't ever remember finding in Documents To Go. Has this improved at all?
Not knowing much about the Android ecosystem, what kind of apps are equivalent to iMovie? I use that quite a bit and am curious what android solutions match that in ease of use and functionality. I can't stress enough that when I ask these comparison questions, I'm not trying to prove one better. I'm actually wanting to make the switch. I'm just looking to be more informed about what I'm loosing and what I'm gaining before doing so.
What have you iPhone users missed about your iPhone since you made the switch?
I miss iTunes and some of the apps from the appstore. However, it all makes up it when I remind myself that "can't do no work on a 4" screen"
I switched. No regrets
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In my opinion, the only thing missing on Android is the robust game/app selection and consistency in layout/design. I have an iPad 3 anyway, so I have the best of both worlds regardless. The iPhone in both 3.5" and 4" alike simply isn't useful for my needs anymore.
PS: I have a WDTV Live that will allow the equivalent of "Airplay" without any hassle through the Note 2. In terms of exclusive apps (e.g. Garageband, Numbers, Pages, iMovie, etc.) there is no equal. If you are heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem, it may be somewhat difficult to switch.
I know the Note 2 comes with Polaris Office included in the stock ROM. Probably won't touch the iWork suite in terms of interface and usability, but give it a try on a demo model and see if it may work for you.
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I miss this little simple function on ios. Say you are at the bottom of a very long Page or document you could double tap the top of status bar and it would move to the top instantly instead of having to scroll up. Nothing big but nice little feature
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I miss this little simple function on ios. Say you are at the bottom of a very long Page or document you could double tap the top of status bar and it would move to the top instantly instead of having to scroll up. Nothing big but nice little feature
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I thought i was the only one who misses that little feature. Aside from that, I currently own both phones and theyre both fantastic but sadly I prefer my Gnote2 over my iph5. The big screen is a huge plus and the S-Pen is really neat. But I do like the apps more on the iphone.
Johncrist1988 said:
I have an iPhone 5 presently and have been debating for several days now whether of not I want to get the Note 2. I have watched Phonedogs comparison and read article after article and it feels like the phones pretty well break even. So I thought I'd ask some former iPhone users about their experience with their switch.
I have Apple TVs and Airport Expresses all over the place. I stream things almost exclusively while I'm at home. I also mirror my phone to the TV at night laying in bed (doing that now typing this). That being said, I know android has apps that support airplay but not necessarily a screen mirroring solution short of VNC that would require a PC hooked up to my TV and a whole lot more of an inconvenience to get fired up.
I don't know what android has that is directly on par with iWork for iOS. I love typing up documents, syncing them to my phone with iCloud, and being able to edit and print them from my phone wireless on practically any and all wireless printers regardless of brand. iWork for iOS works completely and with a full feature set that I don't ever remember finding in Documents To Go. Has this improved at all?
Not knowing much about the Android ecosystem, what kind of apps are equivalent to iMovie? I use that quite a bit and am curious what android solutions match that in ease of use and functionality. I can't stress enough that when I ask these comparison questions, I'm not trying to prove one better. I'm actually wanting to make the switch. I'm just looking to be more informed about what I'm loosing and what I'm gaining before doing so.
What have you iPhone users missed about your iPhone since you made the switch?
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Iwork substitutes..
http://http://alternativeto.net/software/apple-iwork/?platform=android
Imovie substitute
http://https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.forscene.KestrelTest&hl=en
Mirroring...I don't think you can get as close yet outside of VNC...but for utilizing your Apple TV
http://http://doubletwist.com/help/question/how-do-i-stream-to-apple-tv-2nd-generation-from-my-android-device/
All in all...it's going to depend on how deep your into Apple's pockets..Phone for phone...there really is no comparison on the differences...all one has to do is to hold each and use each.
What do I miss the most about my Iphone...simple...all the money I lost making the switch back to my Note II...from all of my expensive apps and extra Icloud storage I can no longer use...but...IMHO...it's worth it...
Mac
I'm not so deep I can't get out. I can return the Airport and iPhone still and swap for the Gnote2. I need to google around more about DLNA devices because streaming is nice, and if there's a.... 'cleaner' product of method of doing it, it may be worth it.
This is available on the Note 2e
ahjdmarchi said:
I miss this little simple function on ios. Say you are at the bottom of a very long Page or document you could double tap the top of status bar and it would move to the top instantly instead of having to scroll up. Nothing big but nice little feature
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This can be done in 2 ways on the GN2. One wny is to switch on the feature in the settings under "Motion"/"Double Tap". Otherwise, assuming the long text is in a browser you can use Boat Browser (which is very customizable) and has this feature.
Regarding AirPlay and the other things mentioned in this thread, can you not simply keep you iphone as a Wifi only media player/streamer?
I use my old Galaxy SI as such with Spotify. Without a Sim card and a 3g data connection the battery can last almost three days also
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The question is per user. I prefer the non-locked down system of Android. Watch a lot of movies and the iPhone has to be jailbroken to do anything other then basic usage. XBMC on my Note2 + MHL adaptor and no rooting. I love the customization.
Another reason I switched was because of iTunes. What a mess. I have a lot of mixes for music and iTunes splits it up. I prefer just being able to dump on my sd card.
Only thing I miss is the gaming apps. But not that much that I would switch back.
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ahjdmarchi said:
I miss this little simple function on ios. Say you are at the bottom of a very long Page or document you could double tap the top of status bar and it would move to the top instantly instead of having to scroll up. Nothing big but nice little feature
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You do know the GN2 has this feature right?
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yellowman82 said:
You do know the GN2 has this feature right?
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Does it work for the browser? That's where I need it the most.
I've owned and used as my main device every iphone up to the iphone 5. I'm loving the Note 2, but there are a few things I miss:
- Overall simplicity. There was a lot of handholding in iOS that I didn't even necessarily realize was happening, which I miss. Biggest/most annoying example so far: sending videos via MMS or email. Unless you have the "limit size to MMS" or whatever checked when you record the video (which would mean a crappy source quality in the video, should you want to use it for anything other than an MMS), you can't MMS it to someone (and unless it's more than a few seconds long, it'll likely be too big to email as well). There are some apps out there for transcoding the video to a lower bitrate, resizing, etc, but this is a royal pain to have to do any time you want to send a quick video. iOS did it all automatically when you went to send the video.
- Better versions of apps. Some apps are just better/smoother on ios. Examples include facebook, Steam, The Weather Channel.
- Photo Stream. My wife is on an iPhone, and we have an old ipad that we use as a photo frame. I miss being able to easily have photos I take appear on both her phone and the iPad.
- iCloud. I miss stuff syncing with my mac desktop apps for things like notes, reminders, etc. I'm sure I could find something to get me by for the notes, and the others I mentioned would sync to a Google calendar, but still. I miss all that happening automatically.
Overall though, I'm very happy to have made the switch. There is no way I could go back to that tiny iPhone screen now.
Mirroring via VGA dongle.
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I miss this little simple function on ios. Say you are at the bottom of a very long Page or document you could double tap the top of status bar and it would move to the top instantly instead of having to scroll up. Nothing big but nice little feature
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Go back to iphone..obviously u dont know how to work ir own phone ....maybe u need it simplified from apple sgn2 is better in all aspects
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I've owned and used as my main device every iphone up to the iphone 5. I'm loving the Note 2, but there are a few things I miss:
- Overall simplicity. There was a lot of handholding in iOS that I didn't even necessarily realize was happening, which I miss. Biggest/most annoying example so far: sending videos via MMS or email. Unless you have the "limit size to MMS" or whatever checked when you record the video (which would mean a crappy source quality in the video, should you want to use it for anything other than an MMS), you can't MMS it to someone (and unless it's more than a few seconds long, it'll likely be too big to email as well). There are some apps out there for transcoding the video to a lower bitrate, resizing, etc, but this is a royal pain to have to do any time you want to send a quick video. iOS did it all automatically when you went to send the video.
- Better versions of apps. Some apps are just better/smoother on ios. Examples include facebook, Steam, The Weather Channel.
- Photo Stream. My wife is on an iPhone, and we have an old ipad that we use as a photo frame. I miss being able to easily have photos I take appear on both her phone and the iPad.
- iCloud. I miss stuff syncing with my mac desktop apps for things like notes, reminders, etc. I'm sure I could find something to get me by for the notes, and the others I mentioned would sync to a Google calendar, but still. I miss all that happening automatically.
Overall though, I'm very happy to have made the switch. There is no way I could go back to that tiny iPhone screen now.
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Those are good points to know, thank you. Looking back I do remember video sending being a pain. I eventually ended up doing private Youtube uploads all the time and linking people to the videos. An extra step.
Not that I'm saying that's a deal breaker at all, but it's those little things. Does Android have a response to Photostream out of the box? If I recall, doesn't it automagically upload to Google+ or something of the sort?
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Go back to iphone..obviously u dont know how to work ir own phone ....maybe u need it simplified from apple sgn2 is better in all aspects
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Come on, if there's a way to do it and you know how, just tell the guy rather than being snarky for no good reason. This thread is obviously targeted towards people making the switch from iOS to Android, and there is a definite learning curve involved there.
Johncrist1988 said:
Those are good points to know, thank you. Looking back I do remember video sending being a pain. I eventually ended up doing private Youtube uploads all the time and linking people to the videos. An extra step.
Not that I'm saying that's a deal breaker at all, but it's those little things. Does Android have a response to Photostream out of the box? If I recall, doesn't it automagically upload to Google+ or something of the sort?
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It does upload to Google+, yes. I wound up turning that off, though, since I rarely use Google+. I did turn on automatic photo/video uploading for Dropbox, though, and I am absolutely loving that. I know there's photo/video upload in Dropbox for iOS, but this all happens via a service running in the background, so you don't have to have the actual Dropbox app open for it to happen.
Something else to note about the auto-upload for Dropbox (and Google+, for that matter): you can use that to share videos/images easily. Only issue is the person receiving it has to download/stream the full-res video or image, and you have to wait for it to upload before you can share itg. Still much easier than transcoding just to send a video, though.
I'm using both....Loving both

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