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Samsung Galaxy Nexus coming to T-Mobile and AT&T *CONFIRMED*

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
Good news for T-Mobile and AT&T
Actually READ the article, it clearly states the phone is running on a T-Mobile SIM Card. Hardly misleading. Hell most of you were confirming Verizon based on a damn logo in a picture.

Rythmyc said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
Good news for T-Mobile and AT&T
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according to this its not etched in stone
http://an.droid-life.com/2011/11/17...interested-in-the-galaxy-nexus/#disqus_thread
by the way the article doesnt show anything we did not already know

It says " which happens to be compatible with T-Mobile and AT&T networks. " doesn't necessarily mean that they are selling it.
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Rythmyc said:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/story/2011-11-17/samsung-galaxy-nexus/51269246/1
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Your post title is HORRIBLY misleading.
There is NOTHING in the article that confirms AT&T or T-Mobile variants of the Galaxy Nexus.

fdm1 said:
It says " which happens to be compatible with T-Mobile and AT&T networks. " doesn't necessarily mean that they are selling it.
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Actually it said
"But my test version, provided by Google just a day ago, relied on a T-Mobile SIM card tapping into an HSPA + network."
Which sounds more like it would be sold by tmobile at least.
I could be wrong though.

It's been posted elsewhere that the GSM version works on those networks. I read the article as simply meaning that the test model the reviewer was given was gsm, not lte.
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Mannn and I got all excited and everything
Was hoping for good news after the verizon bloatware thread

Wodude said:
Actually it said
"But my test version, provided by Google just a day ago, relied on a T-Mobile SIM card tapping into an HSPA + network."
Which sounds more like it would be sold by tmobile at least.
I could be wrong though.
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Though I'd love for that to be the case, I really don't see how that is any indicator that T-Mo will be picking it up and selling it themselves. All that the above quote tells us is that the HSPA+ model is compatible with T-Mo's airwaves.
This thread is incredibly badly titled, given the huge assumption made by the OP :\

Thanks for the enormous cocktease.

I went to my Tmobile store and asked when they might get the Galaxy Nexus. The manager told me that Tmobile was not going to get this phone in their stores but it would be sold at Best Buy at some point. I went to Best Buy and asked them and of course they knew nothing about it. Why do they want to make it so hard for me to buy the darn phone? Makes no sense.

Close this misleading redundant thread !

This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.

nexus14 said:
This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.
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pretty stupid, if you buy the unlocked version in the US it'll save you a tonne of money.

I personally love the *CONFIRMED* portion of the title. You read one vague article and suddenly this is confirmed.
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Wodude said:
Mannn and I got all excited and everything
Was hoping for good news after the verizon bloatware thread
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The Bloatware thread WAS good news ... for us that await the GSM Nexus in the US with absolutely no news ..and while every1 else enjoys their nexus >.>
*drowns in envy*
steevo1 said:
Why do they want to make it so hard for me
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That's what she said...

GatorsUF said:
I personally love the *CONFIRMED* portion of the title. You read one vague article and suddenly this is confirmed.
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u r really funny dude

Engadget was able to use both Tmo and AT&T SIMs successfully. Just thought I'd share. It shouldn't surprise anyone though considering the radios support both on paper. At this point, it would be nice to see when ANY carrier in the US will be selling this phone.
dubya dubya dubya . engadget . com/2011/11/17/google-galaxy-nexus-hspa-first-impressions-video/
(Sorry for the url formatting, long time forum reader, hindered by 8 post limit to link outside links.)

nexus14 said:
This is very selfish of me but I hope it doesn't come to T-mobile. I want to buy this unlocked from overseas and use it with T-mobile and my legacy data plan. If T-mobile starts carrying it, they might end up filtering the device and force me to buy their more expensive, Android-compatible data plan.
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I am in similar opinion, I hope it doesn't come to Att but that way I can make fun of my friends!
OP, close this lying thread please...

Dmw017 said:
..and while every1 else enjoys their nexus >.>
*drowns in envy*
That's what she said...
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think of it this way.. is it REALLY a Nexus with bloatware? not me. its a galaxy phone

Does Canada use FCC, or is this really for AT&T?

Just posted by Phandroid via WirelessGoodness:
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/02/gal...me/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Phandroid says not likely for AT&T, but WirelessGoodness says it is for AT&T. Which is why I asked if Canada uses FCC - as I thought that was a US red-tape that we used?
P.S. Oh, and if this comes to AT&T before T-Mobile, I am really going to be sad!

Ignore this...

Even if its not meant for the US directly, if it can be used in the US they have to pass it through the FCC. So because this model has 850/1900 (which AT&T uses) they have to clear it in the FCC.
Just like a while back we saw the UK version pass through the FCC as well.
I personally have no idea what the deal is with them passing it through again. The article makes it sound like it isn't pentaband...

Oops...........

I saw a post about the CA version possibly having a micro SD slot... Here's the link to the samsung page. http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
I wonder if this is accurate of just a typo of some sort

martonikaj said:
Even if its not meant for the US directly, if it can be used in the US they have to pass it through the FCC. So because this model has 850/1900 (which AT&T uses) they have to clear it in the FCC.
Just like a while back we saw the UK version pass through the FCC as well.
I personally have no idea what the deal is with them passing it through again. The article makes it sound like it isn't pentaband...
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Thank you for your response, as I was curious about this. I didn't think Canada (or any other country for that matter) used the FCC. So I'll be curious what becomes of this.
Also, it gives me a little hope (and some disapointment) that maybe the US GSM versions won't be penatband - meaning that maybe the T-Mobile version (when it comes) will be HSPA+ 42? (As displayed in the GN event live feed we all watched).
The bad of course is, that if it's not pentaband - as that would have been a nice feature to have, it work on either carrier and more of a "world" phone.
Luxferro said:
I saw a post about the CA version possibly having a micro SD slot... Here's the link to the samsung page. http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
I wonder if this is accurate of just a typo of some sort
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Good eye! Not sure about this either, probably a typo - but who knows.

Bmerz said:
Thank you for your response, as I was curious about this. I didn't think Canada (or any other country for that matter) used the FCC. So I'll be curious what becomes of this.
Also, it gives me a little hope (and some disapointment) that maybe the US GSM versions won't be penatband - meaning that maybe the T-Mobile version (when it comes) will be HSPA+ 42? (As displayed in the GN event live feed we all watched).
The bad of course is, that if it's not pentaband - as that would have been a nice feature to have, it work on either carrier and more of a "world" phone.
Good eye! Not sure about this either, probably a typo - but who knows.
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They should all be pentaband. The FCC just doesn't test bands that are not relevant for the US.

Luxferro said:
I saw a post about the CA version possibly having a micro SD slot... Here's the link to the samsung page. http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
I wonder if this is accurate of just a typo of some sort
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It surely doesn't look like a typo :/

ztm.000 said:
It surely doesn't look like a typo :/
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Samsung Sweden made a similar statement about an sdcard and that seems to have just been because they were misinformed.

Confirmed : Galaxy Nexus On The Way To ATT with 4G LTE

Though this may come as no surprise to some we have just received word from a very very good source that an unconfirmed number of AT&T SIM Cards (RS# 17-0700 and likely 4G LTE) for the Galaxy Nexus are going out for testing as we speak. Curiously the SIMS are standard and not the micro like Verizon Wireless. This means of course we can finally certify the release of Samsung and Google’s latest collaboration will be hitting AT&T in the very near term. I have to protect my source but this is coming from very close to the situation. We will keep you posted as more details come about. Are you on AT&T and have been waiting for the the official release of the G-Nex you can count on it soon enough. We broke this right here and we expect to be credited this time. Thanks.
Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!
Excelsior
Thanks Buddy… you know who you are.
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http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
wonder what rom can run on this version ...
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....

Interesting.
It's the same thing that happened to the Nexus S, ATT was late to the game getting that that phone too.

lsxrx7 said:
http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/03/confirmed-galaxy-nexus-on-the-way-to-att/
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.

lsxrx7 said:
i doubt it'll sell too well tho
whoever wanted the GN in the US would have bought the GN already ....
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LOL.

Since when are sims phone specific?

NextNexus said:
True but the AT&T version will have LTE and the unlocked international version does not.
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Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.

adrynalyne said:
Since when are sims phone specific?
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Yeah kinda strange.
When I switched to the LTE-enabled data plan with an LTE phone IMEI number, they had to give me a new LTE SIM for my GSM GN. So maybe the article meant LTE SIM going to the field with GN test units?

ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"

Oh perfect, hopefully some sucker on CL will trade me for it lol
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ATnTdude said:
Bet you $50 it's only HSPA+. Note, that the email only said it was "likely" LTE. They're speculating. Then note that they're using MiniSIM not micro. The whole reason why they use MicroSIM in Toro is because they couldn't fit the LTE antennas and logic chips and the full sized SIM in the already larger housing.
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I think you are right.
After receiving my new GN last Friday, I went to the local AT&T store to get a data plan. Contrary to AT&T ads there is no 4G in South Florida. My phone gets what is available: H+. I just had to move the Sim card from my Nexus One to the GN.
Since my Galaxy Nexus is not an AT&T I have no obligation to buy a data plan. I might drop mine after reading the speedtest

To Clarify
Since our entire post has been repasted here i felt the need to clarify. The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post. There is more information I may be cleared to release as to why it was necessary for these SIMS to go out and an enterprising mind that thinks on it for a while can probably figure it out. The problem is I cannot yet tell folks where the SIMS were coming from and where they were going. I also know how many SIMS there were. If I get cleared to release that info I promise to update the information. Lets for the sake of argument put the SIM card aspect aside. The important part is the document in question confirms the existence of the handset in question. Number one rule of journalism is protect your source. If i gave out that information that would put him/her at considerable risk. I promise there will be more info soon.

Kidromulous said:
The SIMS are not at all phone specific and not sure how that was insinuated in the post.
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I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.

adrynalyne said:
I've read it a few times. It indeed insinuates that, even if not intentional.
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Several thousand people have read it and not everyone came away with the sims are galaxy nexus specific especially since we provide the sku number. They are regular ATT LTE sims and I will update the post to clarify this. Do with the rest of the information from my last reply what you will.

NextNexus said:
From the article:
"Update: Our tipster just added that the SKU for these SIM cards is 73057 and that they do seem to be 4G LTE enabled!!!!"
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It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T

Damn and I just paid $498 for a GSM to use on AT&T. However LTE in my area is delayed so LTE model would be useless to me. Plus AT&T branding and bloat ware Yuck!
I have two upgrades in May due. If anything Id rather get a One X for $199 hopefully to try out and still keep my Nexus. Never tried Sense so who knows. I really just like the look and screen quality of the One X. I could always sell it for $500 if it doesn't work out.

ATnTdude said:
It would be shocking if AT&T wasn't buying USIM's without a LTE logo. Yes, logo. There is no physical difference between a UMTS 3G USIM and one used in LTE devices.
SOURCE: Gemalto, who makes most of the SIM's for AT&T
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we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
Good day sir

Kidromulous said:
we have photographs of these sims with no LTE logo thanks to our friends at radio shack so im sorry that is not entirely true. Also we know these SIMS have been being used since the 4th quarter of last year so we are aware that there is no difference. For some of you there won't be truth to it until the phone is announced but it's funny those are the people who scrutinize speculation the most. We have clarified the original story on our site for those people and for now we will wait and see. I'm only here commenting because my story is here. I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
Good day sir
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I don't care either way but,
I don't care to convince anyone specific of it's validity, as for our readers, us reporting it makes it valid enough.
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is hardly convincing anyone. Blogs get things wrong all the time. Blogs that have exclusives that no others can validate tend to get them wrong more often.
So I hope you are right, but will not be shocked if you are not.

Posts 11, 12, 13, and 16 part of the answer is in post 10

So unless someone has pictures of the device, sales materials, etc.... how is this a "confirmed" rumor?

5 bucks says only the 16GB version will be available.
....I remember reading about a month ago that Samsung has stopped producing the 32 GB version and will focus on a 16 GB version to promote cloud storage. Hopefully its BS for you ATT guys and girls. Watch for it none the less.
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LTE enabled.

Hi all, Iam about to upgrade my Desire S and have been looking at Galaxy S III. I have just had a chat to Trish at Tmobile UK and she offered a great deal on a new Samsung but when I asked if it would be LTE enabled out of the box or a software upgrade she said it wouldn't be enabled and couldn't give any date if it could be. So I will give it a few weeks and then ask again.

This is a dumb question. Lock and ban!
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There's no such thing as dumb questions. If you're in the UK I'm pretty sure your phone already canes LTE enable unlike the our version. If it doesn't come with the latest update you can simply update it yourself
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deviusdragger said:
This is a dumb question. Lock and ban!
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Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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ward360 said:
Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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Actually...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-korea-launch-date-july-9th/

ward360 said:
Nice thing to say in the Q&A section
If your phone is a international quad core then it will never have LTE because it does not have the hardware to support it.
The US dual core Snapdragon 4 phones have the hardware in them and should already support it.
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This is general.. but you are correct. But the T-Mobile US S3 does NOT AND NEVER WILL have LTE. The t999 does not have LTE hardware.
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Actually...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-lte-korea-launch-date-july-9th/
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That's different. The i9300 will also never have LTE. The i9305 does however.
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Not this topic again did OP even ask a q? Or just tell us what happened with the rep?

The reason I contacted Tmobile UK is that we are about to get 4G and they are pushing it in adverts. Tmobile and Orange are to be named EE, this is the Email :-
Superfast is on its way
Hello John
Everything Everywhere, the company behind T-Mobile and Orange is about to launch a new brand called EE.
EE is the new brand for a digital age and will offer the UK's first mobile 4G network and Fibre Broadband for the home, along with the UK's biggest 3G network. 4G will give you superfast internet on the move, making things like downloads, Facebook® and YouTube™ unbelievably quick.
It's all good news for you
As a T-Mobile customer you'll now use EE's new 3G network, the biggest in the UK. Soon you'll start to see EE on your phone screen.
We will be replacing your local T-Mobile and Orange stores with exciting new EE stores, giving you access to almost twice as many stores as today. These EE stores will be staffed by teams of brilliantly helpful people – including specialists in smartphones and systems like Apple, BlackBerry®, Android and Microsoft.
As part of these changes, if you pay by Direct Debit, you'll notice that the name on your bank statement will change to "EE and T-Mobile" within the next two months.
Still the T-Mobile you know and love
You will continue to be a T-Mobile customer. Everything you love about T-Mobile will stay exactly the same. You'll still enjoy the same great value, and your number and plan details won't change either. If you have any further questions you'll find the answers here
Be one of the first to know
Be one of the first to find out about all the great things EE has to offer, including how to move from T-Mobile to EE to start enjoying 4G as soon as it's ready. Sign up now
It's going to be great
T-Mobile
I didn't want to lumber myself with a phone on a two year contract, so it's not a dumb question for us over here. Thanks for the other replies.

It says new 3G network? I'm really confused.. I think your best bet is to change the thread title and put UK so people know what you're talking about. The difference between the US and UK is pretty huge. You're not going to get much help because the LTE in the US on tmo topic has been beaten to death.
Come on people CLEAR thread titles! Please!!

I still stand behind my post. People should research what is LTE and how it works.
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I did research, have a look here :-
h t t p://www.t-mobile.co.uk/ee/?wt.mc_id=OFF_TMUK_V_ee&wt.tsrc=Vanity
h t t p://ee.co.uk/?wt.mc_id=ON_TMUK_C_breakcover-consumer&wt.tsrc=cross%20brand
I don't know if live links are allowed. Just take out the spaces.
You will see they have several phones which are LTE enabled. So they are saying it's going to work but the reply from Trish not yet. So I was hoping that someone here and some have given me the info. Your reply was US based and what I wanted was a UK answer.

I already answered it. The i9300 does NOT have LTE. The i9305 does. These are UK phones.
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Thanks joshnichols for that.
It's just we over here are getting crossed info and I didn't want to get locked into a long contract with a phone that may or may not work on their network, if it takes a few weeks so be it.
Thanks all.
Thread closed.

T-mobile 600 MHz LTE band 71 on U.S. carrier unlocked LG V30 US998

UPDATE: after two separate tweets from the U.S. T-mobile company official Twitter account stating (or implying) that LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30, now the U.S. "T-mobile Help" (customer service) Twitter teams says they don't know. Please note this is a different department than those "T-mobile" Twitter team (management) who said yes.
But thanks to @Septfox for trying to pin down the answer, even if it's "we don't know".
Since the LTE band 71 has NOT shown up on US998 in FCC documentation, this probably means no. UNLESS:
1) LG submits a revised spec sheet to the FCC, which can be done. It would actually be in T-mobile's best interest for LG to enable that band on the "carrier unlocked" model. While T-mobile would not make money off hardware sales, they would gain additional customers who are considering switching. (Many people want a phone NOW, but need to get their ducks in a row family-wise to switch over to a new carrier.)
2) T-mobile radio can be flashed onto rooted "carrier unlocked" LG V30 US998. All the LG V30 hardware (antennas, etc) should be the same. At least from manufacturing efficiency it should be the same. Then it just depends on the firmware to enable specific bands.
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T-mobile LTE band 71 (600 MHz) will also be available on "carrier unlocked" LG V30, not just on T-mobile's LG V30
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
This is also the LG V30 model number that will be eligible for REAL bootloader unlock, unlike the recent T-Mobile LG G6.
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T-mobile has LTE band 71 on their newly implemented 600 MHz spectrum and the LG V30 is the first phone to use that band.
While LG also releases "carrier unlocked" versions of their flagship phones, which qualify for REAL bootloader unlock and thus root, TWRP, custom ROMS, etc., no spec websites have listed LTE band 71 (600 MHz) on the upcoming carrier unlocked LG V30 US998. (While not yet announced, we know the model number because B&H Photo has a placeholder page and it matches previous "carrier unlocked" model sequences. It's also the model given to reviewers during the pre-announcement embargo period back in August.)
So, people assume and even T-mobile customer service reps have stated that to get LTE band 71, you must buy the T-mobile variant of the LG V30.
For people who want dev work, this was disappointing, because while T-mobile previously was dev friendly with either unlocked bootloaders or easily unlocked bootloaders, this has changed in the past year. I could give multiple examples, but the most relevant is the recent LG G6... The T-mobile LG V6 bootloader is ostensibly able to be unlocked, but not really. LG/T-mobile removed all ADB flash commands except for bootloader unlock.
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All the fastboot commands have been removed on this device other than lock and unlock. Until there is a method to flash a custom recovery we can't really do anything.
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Like having the keys to the car, but there's no car. In effect, the phone is still locked down. So, months later still NO root, no TWRP, nothing can be done.
Six months later, there's still no root (even with a 22 page root bounty thread), no usable TWRP and no usuable ROMs. Yes, some devs have ported ROMS for the T-mobile LG G6, but no one can use them. Meanwhile the UNLOCKED LG G6 phones have tons of dev work, because they qualify for REAL bootloader unlock.
A second subset of stakeholders are people who are considering switching to T-mobile (or T-mobile affiliated MVNOs) in the future. They would have to buy T-mobile LG V30 now to be future proof, as T-mobile will roll out more of this 600 MHz spectrum in coming years. The "carrier unlocked" model (which can be taken to ANY carrier) would not work for them, if it didn't have LTE band 71...
Then, yesterday, from the official T-mobile Twitter account, T-mobile stated that to get full 600 MHz experience, you could buy their LG V30 OR buy the unlocked version direct from LG.
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Well, the unlocked version is LG V30 US998. And yes, while you can buy unlocked versions straight from LG if it makes you feel better, you can also buy them online at B&H, Amazon, even eBay.
IF TRUE, this is great news for the dev community and for LG V30 users. This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?
I've contacted one spec website for them to correct their now outdated information, and sent it to XDA News as it's big news.
SOURCE:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000

I must be the only person reading that Twitter quote as buyers having the option of purchasing either 1) from tmobile to get 600mhz support or 2) from lg to get the unlocked phone ( but no 600mhz support). This from the sentence structure. I hope I am wrong.

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I must be the only person reading that Twitter quote as buyers having the option of purchasing either 1) from tmobile to get 600mhz support or 2) from lg to get the unlocked phone ( but no 600mhz support). This from the sentence structure. I hope I am wrong.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it like this, thought I was just being paranoid :v
I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it. Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all. I'm going to bed : |

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it like this, thought I was just being paranoid :v
I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it. Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all. I'm going to bed : |
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Still, this seemingly twice via Twitter they've stated/implied the unlocked carrier version of the LG V30 will also have 600 MHz LTE band 71. IF they are NOT saying that, it's very misleading. Yeah, I also parsed the original tweet, but decided it made more sense to take it at face value... Why would you have a carrier unlocked phone if it didn't have all the carrier bands? I may be wrong, and if so, I'll be the first to update the the first post.
NOTE: Please, NO ONE quote any online or phone T-mobile customer service reps. Those people don't really know about stuff like this. Yes, even at the "highest levels". And I mean that in the nicest way. [emoji14] I don't know how many times I have seen transcripts posted here on XDA "proving" something from from various customer service "chats" (escalated to the "highest level") -- which of course were totally wrong.
One example specifically was Samsung online customer service reps saying the Galaxy S8/S8+ Snapdragon U.S. "carrier unlocked" version would also have bootloader unlock? We KNEW that was wrong, even before the phone was released.
"But I have the transcripts!" Doesn't prove a thing.
At least Twitter posts from company account are considered official company statements. And I happily accept those as proof. Even the president of T-mobile re-tweets the company's Twitter posts.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
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I did send them a tweet myself, but because I'm an idiot and tired, I didn't word it so that the "yes" replay was explicitly for the unlocked variant.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/907867685613998081
Someone else tweet'em, ask if the unlocked, non-carrier variant will have 600mhz support without having to mess with it.
Just that, don't mention the T-Mobile variant at all.
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If anyone wants to have another crack at pinning down the language, please do so. But again, only from trusted sources! Please, NO online carrier customer service reps!
From another thread, where we're discussing the same topic:
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Hopefully I'm just reading too much into it, but the FCC documentation supports only the T-Mobile variant getting band 71 iirc. We'll see in a couple weeks.
In other news, apparently the 128gb variant isn't going to be that much more expensive, something like $50...but I can't remember where I saw that.
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I have no explanation for the FCC findings unless there's going to be a "revised" submission or something before the US998 model is officially announced.

Other related questions are whether the unlocked V30 will support volte and/or wifi calling.
Based on the info in this link, it appears that unlocked LG devices do not have a good track record of supporting these features. I hope that changes with the V30.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones

Copying this over here:
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ChazzMatt said:
I have no explanation for the FCC findings unless there's going to be a "revised" submission or something before the US998 model is officially announced.
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That would be my guess, yea. Someone over on reddit has suggested that if what T-Mobile says is true, it might mean that LG has/is going to file a class 2 permissive change so they don't have to go through all the hoops again.
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Other related questions are whether the unlocked V30 will support volte and/or wifi calling.
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I read somewhere earlier that someone successfully used VoLTE on Verizon using an unlocked g6, no screwing around needed. No wifi calling, though.
The g6 is probably the closest thing to an actual predecessor for the v30, and as far as I've seen Verizon sets the bar highest for "how much of a pain in the ass do we want to make it for non-native-variant phones to use our features". So I would expect carrier-agnostic VoLTE/HD Voice/etc at the least, and extras like wifi calling requiring some custom tweaking to get working.

At this point in smartphone history, the V30 (i.e. US Unlocked) not having wifi calling would be epically stupid. I find it hard to fathom LG would not include wifi calling on this device but then again some of these companies have a history of omitting "no-brainers" .
I'm not fond of 18:9 but will accept it. If on top of that LG leaves out wifi calling it would give me pause...
I'm with mintsim (tmo) so 600 mhz is great but wouldn't a deal breaker.

I really hope this is wrong but...
This is what they said to me.
T-Mobile Help‏Verified account @TmobileHelp 18m18 minutes ago
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Great question! You would need to purchase the T-Mobile LG V30 when it comes out in order to take advantage of our Band 71. *RickK
I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??

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At this point in smartphone history, the V30 (i.e. US Unlocked) not having wifi calling would be epically stupid.
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The problem is, wifi calling requires support from the carrier end, probably their special app, and maybe even some special RIL and framework stuff depending on the carrier. You're on a phone that you went out of your way to not buy from them, so they're not exactly inclined to provide any of that for inclusion in the OEM's ROM.
And that's the impression I get of using unlocked phones here in the US: technically you can go to any carrier you want, but getting features beyond voice and data working pretty much depends on whether or not they decided to make things easy and use AOSP implementations (like what looks to be the case with VoLTE), or an enterprising dev manages to spackle something workable together.
... or maybe I'm full of crap, who knows. I'm on Tracfone, MVNOs don't get all this fancy stuff :v
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I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
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https://twitter.com/LoveTechMedia1/status/908560025165086720
Considering the ambiguity of the other tweets, and the FCC entry lacking b71, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he were right.
Sure would be great if LG would respond on Twitter. I know it's an unreleased product, but come on. I really don't see the issue with providing potential customers a bit of basic information that could make or break their decision to purchase said product.
Pointing out again that, regardless of official support, it's not terribly unlikely that the hardware is the same, making enabling b71 manually a possibility. We should get one of the review unit people to try screwing with service menu settings, to start.
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Can't sleep, going at this again.
Between canned responses and conflicting tweets, I'm getting the impression that T-mobile doesn't actually have the information.
https://twitter.com/Xoftpes/status/908608113124577281

Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.

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This is what they said to me.
T-Mobile Help‏Verified account @TmobileHelp 18m18 minutes ago
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Replying to @lovetechMedia1
Great question! You would need to purchase the T-Mobile LG V30 when it comes out in order to take advantage of our Band 71. *RickK
I am a new user so I cannot link directly to this but feel free to look it up. Maybe RickK doesn't know what he is talking about, right??
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I told you we would laugh at any online support rep transcripts. The NEVER know stuff like this or give completely the wrong answer.
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NOTE: Please, NO ONE quote any online or phone T-mobile customer service reps. Those people don't really know about stuff like this. Yes, even at the "highest levels". And I mean that in the nicest way. [emoji14] I don't know how many times I have seen transcripts posted here on XDA "proving" something from from various customer service "chats" (escalated to the "highest level") -- which of course were totally wrong.
One example specifically was Samsung online customer service reps saying the Galaxy S8/S8+ Snapdragon U.S. "carrier unlocked" version would also have bootloader unlock? We KNEW that was wrong, even before the phone was released.
"But I have the transcripts!" Doesn't prove a thing.
At least Twitter posts from company account are considered official company statements. And I happily accept those as proof. Even the president of T-mobile re-tweets the company's Twitter posts.
If anyone wants to have another crack at pinning down the language, please do so. But again, only from trusted sources! Please, NO online carrier customer service reps!
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Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
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Thank you, that's actually more helpful that the silly online customer support reps who give wrong answers. The company Twitter team statements are considered official, in that the T-mobile president often retweets them for new features/plans, etc. Which is why the first two tweets were NEWS, that seemingly LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30.
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UPDATE: after two separate tweets from the U.S. T-mobile company official Twitter account stating (or implying) that LTE band 71 (600 MHz) would also be included in the "carrier unlocked" version of the LG V30, now the U.S. T-mobile Twitter teams says the don't know.
Since the LTE band 71 has NOT shown up on US998 in FCC documentation, this probably means no. UNLESS:
1) LG submits a revised spec sheet to the FCC, which can be done. It would actually be in T-mobile's best interest for LG to enable that band on the "carrier unlocked" model. While T-mobile would not make money off hardware sales, they would gain additional customers who are considering switching. (Many people want a phone NOW, but need to get their ducks in a row family-wise to switch over to a new carrier.)
2) T-mobile radio can be flashed onto rooted "carrier unlocked" LG V30 US998. All the LG V30 hardware (antennas, etc) should be the same. At least from manufacturing efficiency it should be the same. Then it just depends on the firmware to enable specific bands.

I'm laughing at you than. Because that's a tweet I shared.
Wow. Very condescending and rude. I am a new member so I couldn't link directly to my tweet and you jumped off one Chazzmatt. You started this whole thread sharing tweets and the end result.... apparently Twitter support reps know as much as online support reps. Do your just wasting everyone's time frankly. So who's laughing now? #deleteyourpost #deleteyouraccount
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I told you we would laugh at any online support rep transcripts. The NEVER know stuff like this or give completely the wrong answer.
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Wow. Very condescending and rude. I am a new member so I couldn't link directly to my tweet and you jumped off one Chazzmatt. You started this whole thread sharing tweets and the end result.... apparently Twitter support reps know as much as online support reps. Do your just wasting everyone's time frankly. So who's laughing now? #deleteyourpost #deleteyouraccount
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Not condescending or rude to reiterate customer support reps statements will not be accepted as proof.
I said that earlier in the thread, and gave proof why. Go read the hyperlink post I gave as one example. And over the years I've seen many more. Customer service reps are notoriously ill informed on technical matters.
Then customer support transcript was posted anyways? If you read the thread, I clearly asked please do not offer something like that as proof.
For me, only T-Mobile or LG official company statement is acceptable, of which company Twitter account is an example.

Your not reading what I am telling you!!
[/COLOR]"This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?" -Chazzmatt
I'm Chazzmatt. When I share TMobile tweets it's big news...when Junior members do it I laugh at them. Seriously, idiot.
Dude. You're right. Your not those things. You're just an idiot. Read my post. I shared a tweet. Which is what you shared. So you are full of it. Do people become senior members around her posting garbage or what?
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Not condescending or rude to state customer support reps statements will not be accepted as proof. I said that earlier in the thread. You just didn't read the thread.
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[/COLOR]"This is also NEWS because no other websites are stating this. And if T-mobile is officially stating this through Twitter -- just like they have officially announced many other things, why wouldn't it be true?" -Chazzmatt
I'm Chazzmatt. When I share TMobile tweets it's big news...when Junior members do it I laugh at them. Seriously, idiot.
Dude. You're right. Your not those things. You're just an idiot. Read my post. I shared a tweet. Which is what you shared. So you are full of it. Do people become senior members around her posting garbage or what?
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I'm not talking about tweets. If you shared a T-Mobile company tweet, that is legit.
I'm talking about online customer chats.
Which was it?
It was news because in two separate company tweets T-Mobile stated or implied the carrier unlocked version of the LG V30 would have LTE band 71.
Now @Septfox has pinned them down further and they say (via Twitter) they do not know.
That's where it stands.
If you have a company tweet clearly saying no on this question, then post it. Because your first post sounded very much like online customer support chat or something.
My replies have been detailed and clear on acceptable proof.

It is a tweet!
Dude, read what other people write. I have only ever shared valid tweets. I am beginning to suspect you have learning difficulties which prevents you from reading correctly. And I am actually going from anger and annoyance to feeling sorry for you and bad about bashing this around your head. But dude! Please just read more carefully. I am honestly baffled by this exchange. Another guy on here even linked directly to my tweet. The article that was posted based on your original response features my twitter exchanges in full color. If you paid attention, you would know this. I may be new to XDAdevelopers but I wasn't born yesterday.
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I'm not talking about tweets. If you shared a T-Mobile company tweet, that is legit.
I'm talking about online customer chats.
Which was it?
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Dude, read what other people write. I have only ever shared valid tweets. I am beginning to suspect you have learning difficulties which prevents you from reading correctly. And I am actually going from anger and annoyance to feeling sorry for you and bad about bashing this around your head. But dude! Please just read more carefully. I am honestly baffled by this exchange. Another guy on here even linked directly to my tweet. The article that was posted based on your original response features my twitter exchanges in full color. If you paid attention, you would know this. I may be new to XDAdevelopers but I wasn't born yesterday.
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I saw @Septfox Twitter post, where T-Mobile now says they don't know.
I initially did not see where he posted YOUR Twitter link also. I thought that was still his and since he posted screenshot of his, there was no need to click on it. But I went looking for it and found it.
Look, we're all here looking for information and trying to help each other. All you had to say was, "it's not customer support transcript". I clearly thought it was, and said so in my post.

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Finally. As I suspected, T-Mobile (or at least, their Twitter team) doesn't actually know.
And it makes sense that they wouldn't; T-Mobile quite frankly doesn't need to know anything about the unlocked variant, and it's not as if LG is particularly keen on volunteering information at the moment.
They're concerned about their own variant having support, and rightfully so considering it's the first and currently only phone that does (on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
If it's not already in the works, I would expect LG to file a C2PC after people start complaining that their unlocked phone has an incomplete set of important bands, and failing that...aforementioned other options.
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Original posts (plural) saying yes or implying it were from "T-Mobile" account while these two latest are from "T-Mobile Help". I KNOW T-Mobile customer service ("Help") has been told to say you have to buy T-Mobile branded phone.
I was hoping "T-Mobile" knew something "T-Mobile Help" did not.
And yes, I hope LG files C2PC with FCC to enable that band on the carrier unlocked version. It would benefit both LG and T-Mobile.

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on a somewhat related note: FCC filing says that the Pixel XL2 doesn't have it).
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You're right. But that's just crazy.
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/09/13/lg-made-google-pixel-xl-2-hits-fcc/
Why would LG/Google do that? Leave that off the Pixel XL 2? They don't need T-Mobile "permission" to include that LTE band 71, and LG already has the test data, etc.