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unlocked TP2 that works with AT&T's 3G bands???

hey guys
I was wondering if there is anyone that has bought an unlocked TP2, and who has AT&T, could tell me if the unlocked version of the phone works with AT&T's 3G bands. I've been asking this question all around the rhodium forums, and I've been getting some very convincing answers, but I really need to hear it from someone who has actually purchased the phone and who has AT&T in the U.S.
and also, does anyone know if there is any form of warranty or insurance offered when you buy an unlocked phone?? that's one of my major needs, just in case something unexpected happens. If there isn't then I'm gonna have to wait until AT&T releases their "customized" version of the TP2. with all of AT&T's design flaws.
thanks!!

i dont believe so if i remember correctly it does not have 850 and 1900 band for highspeed...you would only get edge connection and make calls.

TP2 For USA?
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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yes please let me know how your purchase goes. how sure are you that this site is legit? i'm worried about buying an unlocked TP2 and finding out that the website is a scam nd that i just lost out on 500+ of hard-earned money. i'll check it out tho

snormansell said:
I have also been looking high and low, I have located a decent website that really sets me at ease as a buyer the TP2 is not here yet, but it is still early- either way, the FAQ really set me at ease, I am planning my Tp2 to be purchased from them- not only is there an option to assure connectivity in the US on all levels of at&t'S network, but the freq's upon which the phone one purchases are listed on the site- AT&T to my understanding is on 850 & 1900 mhz- which is clearly displayed here- not only that, but here is a "compatibility" chart where one can actually select the network of any proposed purchase-
http://www.cellhut.com
Like I said, the FAQ really made me feel at ease- plus they offer an additional warranty along with the manufacturer's (for purchase)-
that is the plan, I will definitely post any positive results- It is tempting to just buy a new TyTNII sans the AT&T crap, plus the front camera, instead of waiting for the TP2...
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Sorry to disappoint you but the best option is to wait for the AT&T release. Here's why:
Starting with the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro, HTC released a European model which does not contain AT&T 3G bands and is only useable on the EDGE network which is much slower. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only brand new factory unlocked versions have been the European or Asian models. The price is also much higher for an unbranded unlocked phone. All indications are that they will be doing the same thing with the Touch Pro2. The following is the specs on the TP2 straight from HTC's European website: Here's the link.
NetworkHSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
You can see that HSPA (3G) is only supported at 900/2100. AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G. I made the mistake of purchasing the HTC Touch Pro from Europe then had to sell it for a $400 loss on eBay and purchase the AT&T Fuze from an AT&T store.
Typically, HTC releases their new devices in Europe and Asia 1-2 months prior to a US release. It may be torture to have to sit and wait on it while your friends across the pond are already flashing new ROMs to their new shiny phone, but you'll be much better off.

really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!

poppinpengawen said:
really? there is another thread on the rhodium forum titled "unbranded touch pro 2" and the thread starter posted a link from infosync.com saying that HTC is planning to release a version of the TP2 in the summer that will be compatible with AT&T's 3G bands. how true is that? i hope its true! im getting really anxious and impatient!
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Yes, I read that after I made my post above. That is great news since I don't think I am going to like AT&T's modifications. I am not eligible for an upgrade yet anyway since I bought the Fuze not that long ago. I wonder if it will be released at the same time as the Europe/Asia models.
I can't find the TP2 on cellhut.com. They must have taken it off their site. I certainly wouldn't trust a dealer that I am not familiar with and hasn't been vouched for on this forum.

don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?

poppinpengawen said:
don't you think the reason it's not on the site is because it's not out yet? I was actually thinking about just buying it straight from HTC, but the one thing I need to be sure of is if it will support AT&T's 3G bands.
so none of the TP2s being sold on expansys or any of the other sites that are offering them will support U.S. 3G?
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Expansys has the UK model listed. They will probably sell the US unlocked version as well, but I would never buy from them again. They lie about items being in stock and I have never received anything from them quickly. When I've purchased from overseas in the past I have used Clove who have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. Hopefully newegg.com will have it. They sell some other unlocked HTC phones.

so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?

Hey everybody,
I actually emailed HTC-America ([email protected]) and I asked them if the Unlocked-US version of the TP2 would support 3G networks. I said that they confirmed on their twitter feed that it would be coming to the US, so I was rightly wondering whether an Unlocked-US version would support our weird 3G frequencies.
I think there was a misunderstanding because they said that the HTC twitter feed was in no way run or affiliated with HTC, which doesn't make sense because ON the TP2's product overview page, they actually link to their Facebook, YouTube, and TWITTER accounts.
So I emailed them back saying that of course they have to run that twitter feed, and asked them the question again, but they probably won't get back to me until Monday at least. I'll keep everybody updated on the responses I get, as I, and many others, would REALLY hate to buy another AT&T subsidized model of anything.
Dave

thank man that's good. that doesn't make any sense tho! how can they say that they're not affiliated with the HTC twitter feed? that's stupid lol. keep us updated bro!!!

poppinpengawen said:
so once those sites start selling the US unlocked TP2, we can buy it from there and they'll work with the US 3G bands right? we just have to wait until the unlocked ones are available online?
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I mention Clove in case you ever plan to buy from the UK. Quite positive they won't be selling the US version anyway. If there is a US unlocked version look for it to say UMTS or HSPA with the bands 850/1900. For GSM it will be quad-band and work most places in the world. Of course, online retailers sometimes make mistakes in their listings so you may want to confirm it by contacting the company you purchase from, or even better wait for someone who bought one to post their results in this forum.

I got the reply from HTC today, and it was a kind of mixed answer. The reply to my last email I sent was this:
... I understand how important it is to have the full information for upcoming products. Until there is information for this product available on HTC's United States web page, then we would not be able to confirm the specs for an American release of this device ...
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Soooo, even though they "officially" announced it coming to the US, it's not officially announced that it's coming to the US? I don't know what they mean, but by the way the email used "until" instead of "unless" and other ways it was phrased, I think the answer is yes, we will get an American release. But, maybe I'm just over analyzing it. Tell me what you guys think about it.
Dave

it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me

poppinpengawen said:
it just seems like they don't wanna give away any info about the TP2, even tho they already did. they're not making any sense by saying there is no word on a U.S. release, when we all know that there was an announcement of a U.S. release a while back. seems like they're basically saying there will be a U.S. release; they just wanna be secretive about it at the moment, which seems pointless to me
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i think that its more so the fact that when it come to the US they have contracts with all these companies that rebrand the device. so they choose to with hold the info to give those companies the best chance at selling the rebranded products.

htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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humm.. wonder if its worth getting the euro non-3g or waiting for the ATT version. Not sure how much longer i want to wait, but with ATT if i get it though them, i can have the phone insured. *ponders*

esincho said:
htc will not be releasing a unlocked U.S. Touch Pro 2. at&t version will be called the fortress and is suppose 2 come out in july. Then you can unlock that version like my fuze is.
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I agree with you that there will not likely be a US unlocked version since I don't recall HTC ever doing that before, but how do you know for sure? Also, I haven't heard any time frame for at&t's release until I just read your quote saying July. Where did you hear that? Was it from a reliable source? Thanks.

^ U might want to wait (like many of us), and not live on the EDGE w/o 3G!

[Q] How to get Froyo 2.2 OTA in USA for Unlocked UK Desire (w/ T-Mobile USA service)

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HTC-USA OFFICIAL TECH SUPPORT IS CLUELESS ABOUT THEIR OWN PRODUCTS.
Today is Thursday August 5th, 2010. I have not yet gotten the Froyo update. How do I get it. This is my scenario:
I am in USA, I have an unbranded, unlocked UK Desire (purchased the day they first went on sale in UK). My cell operator is T-Mobile USA. No, I don't have 3G and don't care. (T-Mobile USA wont offer good phones so I choose to buy good phones and give up 3g, since I use WIFI 80% of time anyway).
My firmware version still says: 2.1-update1
I have manually tried "Check Now" several times for the past 5 days to see if the update was ready for OTA download. NO. It always says "Your software is up to date."
(1) Has ANYONE from USA gotten the update on a UK Desire Phone?
(2) Does anyone know the rollout procedure? This is an unlocked phone that was bought without tied to a carrier. What kind of detection does HTC have regarding REGION of where you are located in determining when you are "next" to get the update?
thank you.
/quicksite

Currently it's only Europe that has the update. I'd say flash your phone with the Europe ROM but that would probably cause issues as T-Mo US uses a different radio frequency so you'd get no 3G.

steve228uk said:
Currently it's only Europe that has the update. I'd say flash your phone with the Europe ROM but that would probably cause issues as T-Mo US uses a different radio frequency so you'd get no 3G.
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Let me clarify:
1) I bought an unlocked Desire from the UK the day they first were shipped, the very first people at XDA developers who got a phone.
2) I chose this phone because I wanted it, even knowing T-Mobile USA sucks for not offering the phones I want -- the Hero last year, no. The Desire this year, no. Thus, I pay for European models and do without the 3G because I want the phones
3) It is also not true re just Europe. The Sprint EVO, which is the Desire for USA, on Sprint network, has the update.
4) I just spoke to HTC-USA support. They are about as incompetent as anyone to whom i have ever spoken. THEY sound like the "iPhone 4 buyer" in the infamous YouTube video comparing the Evo vs iPhone4... which is to say, they are blithering idiots.
a. I ask them when I will get my update. They said: it was already available 2 weeks ago for unlocked phones.
b. I asked where? They said: from http://developer.android.com
c. I went there while on the call and saw only a SDK download and asked, are you sure? He said, NO, no not that. You want the generic 2.2 download, because since you are not on a branded carrier phone, there is nothing that you need from the carrier.
d. I said "there is nothing here, can you find the link?"
e. After he searched he said, I cant find any link. he said "i can find a link on 3rd party sites but we cannot endorse them."
f. I said: I bought an HTC phone. How do I get an HTC approved 2.2 update?
g. he said, unfortunately, since you are in USA with T-mobile, and they don't carry this phone, you cannot get the update OTA. The signal won't reach you from the UK cell towers.
h. I said: Then how are the people in UK getting it?
i. He said: Their local cell towers are pushing it out?
j. Then if I can't get it OTA, where do I get it?
k. He says: Unfortunately I cannot find anything about it on any HTC website in Europe or North America. We do not host the downloads.
l. So how do I get it?
m. I'm afraid I don't know.
n. ME: I am calling HTC Support north america and you don't know how i am to get this update?? Should I call HTC Support UK since it is a UK purchased phone? (I was serious, not smartass)
o. No, they won't be able to help you since we have no files on UK site either.
p. This is pathetic. Will you please check with a supervisor and tell me who i should contact, or where i should leave a support trouble ticket to be able to be told where to download the update?
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on hold
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q. I'm sorry I told you wrong. You SHOULD be getting your update OTA.
r. How is that possible when you told me 10 minutes ago that I could not get it because it was being pushed from European cell towers and the signal could not be reached here? How NOW am i supposed to get it OTA?
s. I was mistaken. You had a WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY about 2 weeks ago and it must not have worked, so you have to hold on maybe another week or so until they come around again to your cluster.
t. what?
u. They release the OTAs in clusters, and yours has expired and so you will have to wait til it comes around again.
v. I have no faith at all in what you are telling me. Suddenly it's supposed to appear in my Software Updates -- and yet I missed the fact that it occurred already? How is that possible? I have manually checked it every day for past 2 weeks?
I then asked about IF i were to go to a THIRD PARTY SITE to download the 2.2 update, is it PHONE SPECIFIC? because that is what I kept reading HTC saying, that it takes time to port it over and test it per phone.
He said: No, it was ready 2 weeks ago, it didn't take long to test at all.
I asked: Are you sure? Isn't this supposed to have an update to Sense?
No. There's no update to Sense that I know of.
Are you sure? I thought there was? And that this was why it was taking so long. That HTC had to get Android 2.2 to work properly and have Sense work on top of it.
Not that I know of.
I asked: So, this update will enable 720p recording, and apps2sd?
He (HTC TECH SUPPORT): Well 720p is dependent on whether or not your phone is capable of it.
Me: What? I am calling HTC. Don't you even know your own phone? The DESIRE has been stated as being capable of it, as having a far greater sensor than necessary but the OS update is what will enable this feature. How can you not know that?
He: Well to be honest, I have not had a lot of time to play with the phones.
Me: I am astounded. I am a customer and I know your product line and you don't even have a clue. You have been zero help on this call. I am going to post about this whole experience on XDA developers (I am sure he didn't know what that was, anyway). I said "Are you sure you don't want to amend anything you've said?"
He: I'm sorry I got the OTA info wrong initially.
Me. Thank you, I have to go.
He: is there anything else I can help you with today?
me: Are you kidding me? No.
He: Well keep in mind you can get updates to support issues at our twitter channel 24/7.
Me: Oh please, no. is this the twitter/HTC channel?
He: Yes.
Me: You have got to be kidding me. Do you have any idea what gets posted on that channel?
He: Support news.
Me: NO! It posts about "See our latest TV ad for the Aria on Jimmy Kimmel Show tonight" ... It is crappy marketing, it has nothing to do with support. How could you have possibly made an already terrible call filled with horrible misinformation any worse? and yet you did by citing HTC's pathetic TWITTER channel which has nothing but marketing contests. Something is terribly wrong with your company's communications. I have been buying your phones for over 5 years, HTC invented the genre -- and with no disrespect intended, you have managed to malign the whole brand reputation in one phone call. Please, get your act together.
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So -- here I am an hour later -- and now I know that I am ABLE to get the update -- my phone being an unlocked UK phone. So please, is there anyone who can explain how. This is ridiculous.
thank you.

This may be a long shot (but might work)
Assuming you are connecting over wifi to do this then how does the phone know it is in the USA and not the EU? My guess is because when you first put a SIM in the phone, it tells it.
So take the SIM out of the phone and try again (over WiFi of course). If that does not work, see if you can manually set the operator to a UK one (such as Vodafone).
The OTA update comes over the air (duh). But when you are connected over wifi you are bypassing the carriers network and connecting direct to the HTC servers (wherever they are). So the argument about you not being on am EU network does not make sense.
Try the above and see how you go and if it does not work, sorry.

Not sure that will work, it doesn't even work for me in the UK...
My official response from HTC was similar to the phonecall repeated here, they said it is being released in batches not all together and I just have to wait until my batch comes round, potentially up to 2 weeks according to support.
My phone is also a very early one (bought on 2nd day they were in store after my pre-order from CPW wasn't fulfilled because they were somehow out of stock, despite having them in stock in my local shop!) I guess they're not releasing the update in serial number order!
P.

How long have you been trying though? I know that the EVO has had the update but what I was saying is the Desire hasn't anywhere but Europe i.e. Canada, Asia, and the USA.
You should be able to get the OTA if it's a SIM free phone with a WWE ROM but there are posts on the forum stating the the update may have been removed due to some issues.
Keep hitting that check button or just flash manually with the released ROM zip.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

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HTC SUPPORT WEBSITE IN UK: Search results for: HTC Desire > Android 2.2
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This may be a long shot (but might work) ... Assuming you are connecting over wifi
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It's a great idea, thank you for that suggestion! hadn't even thought of it, i will try it -- despite messages afterwards saying wont even work in UK.
But what I want to know is: WTF is happening to HTC?
Really, this is becoming more and more disturbing.
The people at XDA are the people that PUT THEM ON THE MAP as their earliest buyers -- we are the early adopters of touchscreen smartphones -- longe before an iphone existed as a glimmer in Steve Jobs' eye. True, he had the Newton years ago, and hats off, as always, to Apple's exceptional product design vision. But it wasn't a phone, and it was long ago abandoned.
HTC and Windows Mobile made this whole new multi-billion dollar industry possible -- that now enables Verizon to profit from introducing and seling the DROID, that enabled steve jobs to launch the iPhone and, in all fairness, to finally get the UI right -- and take advantage of touchscreens -- vs Windows Mobile engineering's retarded tiny stylus driven tap inside 5-pixel wide box to hit that preference selection.
Then HTC ceded that business to Apple for several years as they barnstormed the industry, became the darling of engadget and gizmodo and could do no wrong. WHAT KEPT WINDOWS MOBILE COMPETITIVE were two things: HTC -- and their various UI overlays -- like touchflo -- now advanced to SenseUI -- and XDA-developers -- who pioneered so many advances that made a stylus-based OS start to work like a finger-navigable OS.
MY POINT? We, the early adopters, don't just get bragging rights. That's juveile. WE BOUGHT PHONES -- over and over and over. I have bought 5 HTC smartphones. SO I am getting a little sick and tired of being treated like **** by them. They paid multiple hundreds of millions for the whole new BRANDING campaign internationally -- to jetison the faceless image of no-name chinese manufacturer -- to a brand name of high quality phones they have always been known for.
But with that corporate makeover on the outside, what the hell has happened on the inside? WE, those of us who bought the Desire en masse in pre-orders -- were screwed over by HTC time and time again in April and May of this year as they have taken their eye off the prize -- of rewarding customer loyalty -- and now they just shoot for NEW CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIPS... They diverted OUR stock of shipments to RE-STOCK T-mobile UK, and other carrier sticks - so the carriers could CHA-CHING selling not just phones but service plans and data plans -- and HTC kissed their asses, while dismissing us as expendable.
It was only after we mounted a huge backlash that they did an about face and fixed that issue, but only after showing their hand, and really annoying alot of loyal customers -- these are not cheap phones -- and we don't buy the low-end crap. we buy the high end phones.
And so same thing now. WHO GETS THE UPDATES -- frikkin SPRINT in the USA with the EVO.... The CMDA phone which has no legacy tie at al to the GSM phones HTC built their reputation on. They are once again spitting in the faces of their loyal REPEAT CUSTOMER base -- because they feel they can DO so -- and what are we going to do -- STOP BUYING?
That's when hubris sets in, and it's very arrogant, and very calculated. They run the risk/benefit analyses of "what's the downside of pissing off the unlocked phone buyers" vs the UPSIDE of making our NEWEST PARTNERS -- Sprint in the USA -- and VERIZON in the USA -- happy?
I know how this game is played. I live in the heart of silicon valley. I live in the neighborhood with many google developers including the guy who product designed the G1 -- the first android phone -- and developed its UI. I onlty say this because I know the marketing business very well. SO well that it makes me very angry when I get PLAYED by smartass people who think they can pull the wool over customer eyes.
They only CAN because custimers let them. It ticked me off that XDA-devs sat on their thumbs and refused to use their enormous CLOUT when HTC was F*ing over all of the DESIRE pre-order purchasers in April and May.
I frnakly do not understand the sheep argument.. of why it is that people sit back and take it --- and sooner or later someone will post here -- dude- chill - it's just a phone, or - dude-chill -- Im sure there is nothing going on like you say. and so on.
Yeah? okay, fine. I will twiddle my thuimbs and keep looking for that update while some as*h*le who only discovered touchscreens last month and bought their EVO from Sprint quickly gets their 2.2 update served to them on a silver platter. This is nuts.
Oh. Sorry. I just riffed off of a THANK YOU post to someone who posted to help me Trust me, i greatly appreciate it, and will try it. This steam is of course not venting at you. It is at the situation and how preposterous it is.
@MARK said:
This may be a long shot (but might work)
Assuming you are connecting over wifi to do this then how does the phone know it is in the USA and not the EU? My guess is because when you first put a SIM in the phone, it tells it.
So take the SIM out of the phone and try again (over WiFi of course). If that does not work, see if you can manually set the operator to a UK one (such as Vodafone).
The OTA update comes over the air (duh). But when you are connected over wifi you are bypassing the carriers network and connecting direct to the HTC servers (wherever they are). So the argument about you not being on am EU network does not make sense.
Try the above and see how you go and if it does not work, sorry.
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You should be able to get the OTA if it's a SIM free phone with a WWE ROM but there are posts on the forum stating the the update may have been removed due to some issues.
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Thank you. When you first posted I had not yet spoken to HTC... So i didn't yet understand what you meant.. sorry bout that. What does "WWE ROM" mean?
Whose site would it have been hosted on -- before there were issues?
This is what I am trying to understand. The HTC guy initially told me: You can get it from the Android site -- then use HTC Sync to downlaod it to computer and then install onto phone that way...
Then it was not available at Android.com
Then you were saying perhaps it was available from T-Mobile UK's site -- in downloadable form? Is that correct?
(NOT DIRECTED AT YOU) Why is this such a frikkin' mystery? Isn't the whole concept supposed to be: Android phones are updatable firmware phones, thus, improved features sets and functionality always as the code is improving... And phone manufacturers like HTC manufacture phones that are compliant with Google's Android OS. So why is this such rocket science?
I have an HTC phone. It's been cleared for takeoff. Android 2.2 exists for this phone. What is their problem?

[OFFICIAL]According to Samsung, SGH T999 will support LTE

***sorry i made another thread about it.. but this should clear up all confusion***
Here is a chat session I had with Samsung support.
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Visitor: Hello, can you please tell me if the T Mobile Samsung Galaxy S3 will be able to support T mobiles LTE when it rolls out in 2013?
Stark: I understand that you want to know the information about the devices supporting the T-mobile LTE. Is that correct?
Visitor: yes
Stark: Thank you for the confirmation.
Stark: I'll be happy to provide the information.
Visitor: Thank you.
Stark: I would like to inform you that with the new Jelly bean update the S3 devices are now supporting the LTE feature, which makes the devices compatible for the LTE release of the T-mobile.
Visitor: You are 100% sure of this?
Stark: May I know if you have updated the device?
Visitor: Yes I have i am running 4.1.1 JB
Stark: Okay, please open from Home Screen >> press Menu >> Settings >> Wireless and networks.
Visitor: okay
Stark: Have you opened it?
Visitor: yes
Stark: Is there any option called network mode?
Visitor: yes
Stark: Please tap on it.
Visitor: ok
Stark: Please let me know the options you are able to view.
Visitor: lte/gsm/wcdma ( auto mode) , gsm only, wcdma only
Stark: As you can see the device clearly shows it supports the LTE mode.
Visitor: But that does not have to necessarily mean that the hardware supports LTE because the phone was made before T mobiles LTE is even being released.
Visitor: I was told that the only reason that LTE option is there, is because The verizon S3 supports LTE so they just kept the modes the same for all S3's
Stark: I do understand your concern.
Stark: But the devices are made in such a way that they support the LTE when released in future.
Visitor: along with the sprint and also ATT's LTE
Visitor: Okay, So i should have no problem connecting to T Mobiles LTE network in 2013 when they roll it out
Stark: Yes, you'll not have any issues with connecting to LTE when it is released in future.
Stark: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?
Stark: Not to rush you, are we still connected on the chat?
Stark: We have not heard from you. Do you wish to continue the chat?
Visitor: hello
Visitor: no that is all
Visitor: thank you for all of your information.
Stark: Thank you.

Seems legit, I'll await it. People are saying it doesn't really matter since the S3 will be ditched when the S4 or some other super mega phone comes out but I plan to stick with this thing for quite some time so this is good news.

It's not true. I just chatted with T-Mobile and they said it won't and the way he figured it out was by comparing the hardware specs with the iPhone that supports it. And he said our device will not support it. I believe a T-Mobile Rep over a Samsung Rep because it's T-Mobiles network and device. Those settings are there because it makes it a hell of a lot easier for Samsung to mass produce the software. My galaxy s2 has this option for LTE and that's far from even coming close to supporting LTE.
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It's hard to say. I can't find the exact bands that this phone supports.
While your at it, read this site
It says,
T-Mobile's decision to build its LTE network on the AWS spectrum band - from 1710MHz to 1755MHz for uplink and 2110MHz to 2155MHz for downlink
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T-Mobile currently has 24MHz of spectrum depth on the AWS band and is due to get an additional 7MHz from AT&T as compensation for the failed merger between the two companies.
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Also, there's another thread about this so..yea.

Sorry but that representative is wrong.
http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125
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redhooka said:
Sorry but that representative is wrong.
http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125
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you do relize that was back in june that was released.... and the gs3 board has flashable radios. so all gs3's have gsm, cdma, hspa, and lte..... motorola, samsung, lg, all the big companies are making phones to be able to be flashed on any network. now as that said i dont think we will be able to flash diff frequencies i think its done as the software is loaded at the factory. but who knows it is tmobile were talking about. lte launch means new contracts and selling new phones so the likely hood of an old device upgraded to lte is highly unlikely

redhooka said:
Sorry but that representative is wrong.
http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125
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Wow, I guess my phone is special and has a chip that all the others do not! Look at the screenshot below. Argue with that! Read the attached whitesheet that has the FULL SPECS of the chip in it. You CANNOT argue with that. lol Come on people, I know you cannot fix stupid but if the manufacturer of the chip says all phones have the MSM8960 chip WITH LTE on it than I would believe them before some stinkin' representative contacted via live chat. Do some searching about that c/net article you posted the link for and you will find that the representative retracted the statement about the phones only having the MSM8260 chip.
I do FULL research when I am trying to find the answer for things. I have more proof than anyone has show in any of these threads. Do not bother posting blogs, comments from live chat that are people from the Philippines phone center that know next to nothing. ALL USA GS phones are the same except for software differences.
I would suggest you take a class in college called "Critical Thinking." In the class you are taught how to properly find legitimate sources for college papers and research. Most of the internet is filled with misinformation and if possible you are always supposed to get your information directly from the source and not from 2nd and 3rd parties. You have shown as proof a review website and a blog arguement...Not good sources at all.
I have seen so many websites showing the same information....That is that Qualcomm's chip that IS IN ALL Samsung GS3's is called the MSM8960 Snapdragon S4. Does anyone disagree with that? (pic from phone below)
All of the specs for that MGM8960 board clearly show that it comes with a fully integrated LTE radio. And here is a screenshot of the board specs in the unit from T-Mobile:
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Notice it says Board: MSM8960 and Device: d2tmo
Now read the attached whitesheet DIRECTLY FROM QUALCOMM.
Then if you want you can read 2nd and third party information if you do not believe the first party info shown clearly on the screenshot and the spec sheet from Qualcomm.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd party links:
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/releas...chipset-family
https://developer.qualcomm.com/blog/...-now-available
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) (you have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down to see the specs for the MSM8960)
http://gigaom.com/mobile/qualcomm-no...ething-better/
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...napdragon.aspx
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/05/rep...lked-lte-lead/
Wow, that is a lot of proof...Again if you are going to argue this post SOLID PROOF not some chat with a Phillipeno phone rep., nor any posts from forums with people arguing about this. Find something that is 100% irrefutable!
Goodnight all and God Bless!! :victory:

elesbb said:
It's not true. I just chatted with T-Mobile and they said it won't and the way he figured it out was by comparing the hardware specs with the iPhone that supports it. And he said our device will not support it. I believe a T-Mobile Rep over a Samsung Rep because it's T-Mobiles network and device. Those settings are there because it makes it a hell of a lot easier for Samsung to mass produce the software. My galaxy s2 has this option for LTE and that's far from even coming close to supporting LTE.
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I also chatted with a t mobile rep and they said they don't know if the s3 will support lte.
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ASharpEdge said:
Wow, I guess my phone is special and has a chip that all the others do not! Look at the screenshot below. Argue with that! Read the attached whitesheet that has the FULL SPECS of the chip in it. You CANNOT argue with that. lol Come on people, I know you cannot fix stupid but if the manufacturer of the chip says all phones have the MSM8960 chip WITH LTE on it than I would believe them before some stinkin' representative contacted via live chat. Do some searching about that c/net article you posted the link for and you will find that the representative retracted the statement about the phones only having the MSM8260 chip.
I do FULL research when I am trying to find the answer for things. I have more proof than anyone has show in any of these threads. Do not bother posting blogs, comments from live chat that are people from the Philippines phone center that know next to nothing. ALL USA GS phones are the same except for software differences.
I would suggest you take a class in college called "Critical Thinking." In the class you are taught how to properly find legitimate sources for college papers and research. Most of the internet is filled with misinformation and if possible you are always supposed to get your information directly from the source and not from 2nd and 3rd parties. You have shown as proof a review website and a blog arguement...Not good sources at all.
I have seen so many websites showing the same information....That is that Qualcomm's chip that IS IN ALL Samsung GS3's is called the MSM8960 Snapdragon S4. Does anyone disagree with that? (pic from phone below)
All of the specs for that MGM8960 board clearly show that it comes with a fully integrated LTE radio. And here is a screenshot of the board specs in the unit from T-Mobile:
Notice it says Board: MSM8960 and Device: d2tmo
Now read the attached whitesheet DIRECTLY FROM QUALCOMM.
Then if you want you can read 2nd and third party information if you do not believe the first party info shown clearly on the screenshot and the spec sheet from Qualcomm.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd party links:
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/releas...chipset-family
https://developer.qualcomm.com/blog/...-now-available
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) (you have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down to see the specs for the MSM8960)
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Our phone has the MSM8260 not the MSM8960. You'd know that if you had read the article I posted. You should learn to get your facts straight before calling someone out.
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redhooka said:
Our phone has the MSM8260 not the MSM8960. You'd know that if you had read the article I posted. You should learn to get your facts straight before calling someone out.
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http://m.techrepublic.com/blog/crac...s-easy-open-case-difficult-to-fix-display/666
They tore the phone down and disagree with you.. but I'm sure CNET knows better since they didn't actually open the phone.
Oh yea and all t-mobile "spokesmen" know what they're talking about.

redhooka said:
Our phone has the MSM8260 not the MSM8960. You'd know that if you had read the article I posted. You should learn to get your facts straight before calling someone out.
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Of course, I am sorry for that. My phone must be displaying the wrong numbers in the screenshot that I posted. Many phones do not show the proper board in them when you do an inquiry on the phone. lol
I am in utter disbelief that someone would believe an internet article over the actual board that is in the phone which CLEARLY SHOWS it is a MSM8960 (see above screenshot of an actual T-Mobile GS3 phone). Have you taken any college classes that show you how to find REPUTABLE sources suitable for use in research papers? I have.
Smoke another one people who do not believe........

he spoke to tony stark. seems legit.

ASharpEdge said:
Wow, I guess my phone is special and has a chip that all the others do not! Look at the screenshot below. Argue with that! Read the attached whitesheet that has the FULL SPECS of the chip in it. You CANNOT argue with that. lol Come on people, I know you cannot fix stupid but if the manufacturer of the chip says all phones have the MSM8960 chip WITH LTE on it than I would believe them before some stinkin' representative contacted via live chat. Do some searching about that c/net article you posted the link for and you will find that the representative retracted the statement about the phones only having the MSM8260 chip.
I do FULL research when I am trying to find the answer for things. I have more proof than anyone has show in any of these threads. Do not bother posting blogs, comments from live chat that are people from the Philippines phone center that know next to nothing. ALL USA GS phones are the same except for software differences.
I would suggest you take a class in college called "Critical Thinking." In the class you are taught how to properly find legitimate sources for college papers and research. Most of the internet is filled with misinformation and if possible you are always supposed to get your information directly from the source and not from 2nd and 3rd parties. You have shown as proof a review website and a blog arguement...Not good sources at all.
I have seen so many websites showing the same information....That is that Qualcomm's chip that IS IN ALL Samsung GS3's is called the MSM8960 Snapdragon S4. Does anyone disagree with that? (pic from phone below)
All of the specs for that MGM8960 board clearly show that it comes with a fully integrated LTE radio. And here is a screenshot of the board specs in the unit from T-Mobile:
Notice it says Board: MSM8960 and Device: d2tmo
Now read the attached whitesheet DIRECTLY FROM QUALCOMM.
Then if you want you can read 2nd and third party information if you do not believe the first party info shown clearly on the screenshot and the spec sheet from Qualcomm.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd party links:
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/releas...chipset-family
https://developer.qualcomm.com/blog/...-now-available
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) (you have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down to see the specs for the MSM8960)
http://gigaom.com/mobile/qualcomm-no...ething-better/
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...napdragon.aspx
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/05/rep...lked-lte-lead/
Wow, that is a lot of proof...Again if you are going to argue this post SOLID PROOF not some chat with a Phillipeno phone rep., nor any posts from forums with people arguing about this. Find something that is 100% irrefutable!
Goodnight all and God Bless!! :victory:
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so it does have lte capability?
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death1246 said:
he spoke to tony stark. seems legit.
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so cool "iron man' works at tmo.

ASharpEdge said:
Of course, I am sorry for that. My phone must be displaying the wrong numbers in the screenshot that I posted. Many phones do not show the proper board in them when you do an inquiry on the phone. lol
I am in utter disbelief that someone would believe an internet article over the actual board that is in the phone which CLEARLY SHOWS it is a MSM8960 (see above screenshot of an actual T-Mobile GS3 phone). Have you taken any college classes that show you how to find REPUTABLE sources suitable for use in research papers? I have.
Smoke another one people who do not believe........
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Uhm. Why'd you quote me?

Wow....This is still going on?....again?
No offense to anyone, but seriously, I just dont understand getting worked up about something that, even IF possible, will not even be an option for the vast majority of us for at least a year, probably more!
Ok, I hope this helps.....
The US variants are all different from each other. No two are the same as far as I can tell....well I couldnt confirm Sprints, but anyway....
After a little extra digging of my own, I still do not believe that we will see LTE on this phone.
The T999 is close to the same as the I747 (AT&T). Let me say now, that I do not know the exact part numbers, chip numbers/models, but you will see in pictures that they are in fact different. These show the T999 and I535 (Verizon, used because its easier to see they are different)
I am not attaching these to the post, just to keep the size down for easier viewing. Just open each in its own tab.
T999_Internal_Pic_A
I535_Internal_Pic_A
T999_Internal_Pic_B
I535_Internal_Pic_B
Physically different yes, but does it mean that the T999 does not support LTE???
Well, sort of. It does appear to me that the chip is designed to support a number of technologies, including LTE. BUT, if it really does have hidden LTE capability, then why is it that you cannot put AT&T software and modem, on an unlocked T999, and use it on AT&Ts network? Supposedly they are the exact same....according to some of you. So the software would be key...right? Not always.
Consider this, I cannot remember which phone I ran into this on a few months ago, but i believe it was the WiFi chip in question that on other phones and according to its datasheets from Qualcomm, it was capable of Wireless N. It turned out though, that there were a couple of pins missing from the chip which prevented it from using this capability. I have also seen where it was simply that a few pins were present, but not connected to anything.
Finally, if you check the FCC, T-mobile/Samsung NEVER requested anything related to LTE during the application process. Nor did the FCC run any LTE tests on the SGH-T999! They did do this on every other carriers phone. If T-Mobile had any plans of supporting LTE on the GS3, they would have applied for it. (They do have future plans to support the Note2, and in that application it is included). Now, I am by no means an expert on the law or the rules and regulations by the FCC, but I am pretty certain that if T-Mobile were to begin supporting LTE on the T999, it would be against the law. I am sure there is something in place to have a device recertified for something like this, but does anyone seriously believe that T-Mobile and Samsung are going to go through the trouble and expense of doing this now, when they should have done it in the first place? I know I dont!
One last thing, this is entirely hearsay, and I do not know for certain about this, but I have been told that Tmobiles LTE will be using the AWS spectrum and will be operating on different frequencies than Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. So if the GS3 was built for LTE on those networks, then it most likely will not work. They would not have tried to build for Tmobiles at-the-time unknown LTE network.
I am including some links to references I used for all of this. They are primarily from the FCC. I suggest opening each in its own tab, and then open corresponding menu items to compare. I would have posted individual links, but unless you click the link on the FCC page, it will tell you that you dont have authorization to view it....
I suggest you compare the following items:
HAC Production Key Feature Letter
SAR Report
Internal Photos
Part 22 24 Test Report
Part 27 Test Report
T-Mobile
AT&T
Sprint
Verizon
T-Mobile Note 2
In the end, the hardware probably does have the capability to use LTE, but I think it is hardware disabled (otherwise it should work on other networks). Even if I am wrong and it is fully capable, it is not licensed by the FCC to be allowed to use LTE. Either way, I am confident that we will NOT be receiving future support for it.
I hope this helps guys. And please, no more threads, this was debated to death at least once or twice already!
And no, I am not trying to argue with any of you. If you still believe that we will get LTE even after reading this, then please continue on in life, happy in your belief, while I continue on, happy in mine! We will all know for sure in a little less than a year!
A bonus pic, to help further understand where the network is headed:
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Lol. This thread is funny
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psykhotic said:
Uhm. Why'd you quote me?
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Oops! Sorry about that. I messed up and quoted the wrong post. I have no problem admitting my mistake. Seems other people cannot believe what is right in front of their noses.
By the way, that is a great link you found. Irrefutable proof is what that is!!

So is the answer yes or no lte
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Crisisx1 said:
So is the answer yes or no lte
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The answer would be no. Sadly. Seeing as I'm stuck with this for another 2 years -.-
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Short version:
Like I said, im no expert on the FCC, but it appears that if tmobile were to give LTE to this phone, they would probably be fined by the FCC for breaking the law and not having it certified first.
I have a feeling that even if the chip is capable, itll be "hardware disabled". No proof for that though, just an educated guess!
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"Buy a developer phone"

I've noticed on other sites that this comment by HTC has somehow convinced people it is possible to get an unlocked device on Verizon.
This is FALSE
Verizon will NOT activate a non-Verizon model of The One. I already tried to activate the Google Edition and failed. The rep told me "It's because it doesn't have Verizon software on it". I responded by saying "That's the whole point" and she didn't have much to say.
Nobody should think that this is about people trying to get "cheap" unlocked phones - it's about having ANY unlocked option.
This is about our ISP trying to control our computers hardware and software, and we need to recognize this and fight back. Otherwise, before you know it, Comcast will be forcing you to buy their computers and run their software just to use the internet.

firepacket said:
I've noticed on other sites that this comment by HTC has somehow convinced people it is possible to get an unlocked device on Verizon.
This is FALSE
Verizon will NOT activate a non-Verizon model of The One. I already tried to activate the Google Edition and failed. The rep told me "It's because it doesn't have Verizon software on it". I responded by saying "That's the whole point" and she didn't have much to say.
Nobody should think that this is about people trying to get "cheap" unlocked phones - it's about having ANY unlocked option.
This is about our ISP trying to control our computers hardware and software, and we need to recognize this and fight back. Otherwise, before you know it, Comcast will be forcing you to buy their computers and run their software just to use the internet.
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switch providers then.

Actually, they don't come with the CDMA radios that are necessary to operate on Verizon's network. The person you talked to didn't know what they're talking about, the device couldn't be activated even if the rep wanted to.
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firepacket said:
I've noticed on other sites that this comment by HTC has somehow convinced people it is possible to get an unlocked device on Verizon.
This is FALSE
Verizon will NOT activate a non-Verizon model of The One. I already tried to activate the Google Edition and failed. The rep told me "It's because it doesn't have Verizon software on it". I responded by saying "That's the whole point" and she didn't have much to say.
Nobody should think that this is about people trying to get "cheap" unlocked phones - it's about having ANY unlocked option.
This is about our ISP trying to control our computers hardware and software, and we need to recognize this and fight back. Otherwise, before you know it, Comcast will be forcing you to buy their computers and run their software just to use the internet.
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actually the verizon one is unlocked lol. that's probably what that supposed comment was talking about.

.kronos. said:
actually the verizon one is unlocked lol. that's probably what that supposed comment was talking about.
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He means an unlocked phone being used on Verizon. Not a Verizon phone that's unlocked. Its a bit different. A Verizon phone that's unlocked is still set by default to Verizon but an unlocked phone cannot do Verizon voice (perhaps data I don't know)
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firepacket said:
I've noticed on other sites that this comment by HTC has somehow convinced people it is possible to get an unlocked device on Verizon.
This is FALSE
Verizon will NOT activate a non-Verizon model of The One. I already tried to activate the Google Edition and failed. The rep told me "It's because it doesn't have Verizon software on it". I responded by saying "That's the whole point" and she didn't have much to say.
Nobody should think that this is about people trying to get "cheap" unlocked phones - it's about having ANY unlocked option.
This is about our ISP trying to control our computers hardware and software, and we need to recognize this and fight back. Otherwise, before you know it, Comcast will be forcing you to buy their computers and run their software just to use the internet.
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Lol good job trying the google edition on VZW, given that it does not have a CDMA radio or the proper LTE bands

it also looks like if Verizon gets the Nexus 5, it will be its own version like the galaxy nexus. The version that passed through the FCC didn't have verizon bands.

cesium said:
Lol good job trying the google edition on VZW, given that it does not have a CDMA radio or the proper LTE bands
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Yeah I know, kinda stupid. But it was because I had just read this whole article about how if you wanted to get The One on VZW early, you could just buy the Google Play edition.
The website was also VERY unclear about carrier support. Without doing research on the exact frequencies, there was really no way for the average person to know that it wouldn't work on Verizon.
It honestly felt like I was duped. So I shipped the phone back to Google, but then they never issued me a refund even after 30 days. Only after calling my credit card company did they refund all but a 15% restocking fee. Doing business with Google blows.

firepacket said:
Yeah I know, kinda stupid. But it was because I had just read this whole article about how if you wanted to get The One on VZW early, you could just buy the Google Play edition.
The website was also VERY unclear about carrier support. Without doing research on the exact frequencies, there was really no way for the average person to know that it wouldn't work on Verizon.
It honestly felt like I was duped. So I shipped the phone back to Google, but then they never issued me a refund even after 30 days. Only after calling my credit card company did they refund all but a 15% restocking fee. Doing business with Google blows.
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TBH... it's your fault for trusting garbage blogspam. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just what it boils down to. A quick 30 second look around the site shows that all they do is copy and paste the same filler text for each "article", change up a few words, and post it.
On top of that, it's common knowledge that Verizon is a CDMA carrier and does not just let you activate any random phone on their network. Only GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile allow that.

wireroid said:
TBH... it's your fault for trusting garbage blogspam. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just what it boils down to. A quick 30 second look around the site shows that all they do is copy and paste the same filler text for each "article", change up a few words, and post it.
On top of that, it's common knowledge that Verizon is a CDMA carrier and does not just let you activate any random phone on their network. Only GSM carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile allow that.
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I don't really care if you think it's my fault. Thanks for sharing though :good:

POLL: Which first, LG release North America G7 bootloader unlock code or Pie update?

Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?

mr3p said:
Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?
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Its LG something will happen only if they decide it

mr3p said:
Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?
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They will never release bootloader unlock code for any US carrier based model.. You can bet on that.

doubledragon5 said:
They will never release bootloader unlock code for any US carrier based model.. You can bet on that.
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I'm no fan of LG and I can appreciate your dissatisfaction based on your experiences trying to unlock your G7 (Sprint) however LG released bootloader unlock codes for the G6 USA carrier free model somewhere around this time last year. It's anyone's guess what they will do going forward.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Currently supported devices which can be unlocked:
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev

mr3p said:
I'm no fan of LG and I can appreciate your dissatisfaction based on your experiences trying to unlock your G7 (Sprint) however LG released bootloader unlock codes for the G6 USA carrier free model somewhere around this time last year. It's anyone's guess what they will do going forward.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Currently supported devices which can be unlocked:
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
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That's great for those who have it.. But I still believe for any phone, Samsung, LG, Google, if it is for a carrier then bootloader unlock his highly doubtful. I wish they never bowed to the carriers in the first place.. They should have said NO period.. But it is what it is...

doubledragon5 said:
That's great for those who have it.. But I still believe for any phone, Samsung, LG, Google, if it is for a carrier then bootloader unlock his highly doubtful. I wish they never bowed to the carriers in the first place.. They should have said NO period.. But it is what it is...
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Agree totally.

Even though I use Mint Mobile (US-based prepaid plan that uses the T-Mobile network), I picked up a 2nd-hand G710ULM (vs G710TM) in hopes that LG would offer an unlocked bootloader code at some point (I like to use my phones for 4+ years and after ~2 all phones seem to get sluggish given dev targets if you stay on stock).
That being said I hope and am betting on Pie getting pushed out first (hopefully before Q official release) because I think it'd benefit the most amount of users (Pie really does have some unique and useful features, even though I've seen others say that they are purely gimmicks).
I went from flip-phone, to HTC Incredible (great phone with a great hacking community), to hand-me-down Samsung G3 (same, although Knox sux), and finally a 2nd-hand LG G7 (unaware of LG's history and actually believing their "Quick Update Program" or whatever they called it). Just because I'm able, doesn't mean I'm willing to pay ~$1,000 USD just to buy an unlocked Pixel device. Maybe some more feature-rich Android One entries will join the bunch. I can see how/why people get into the Apple ecosystem x.x

DeeBG said:
Even though I use Mint Mobile (US-based prepaid plan that uses the T-Mobile network), I picked up a 2nd-hand G710ULM (vs G710TM) in hopes that LG would offer an unlocked bootloader code at some point (I like to use my phones for 4+ years and after ~2 all phones seem to get sluggish given dev targets if you stay on stock).
That being said I hope and am betting on Pie getting pushed out first (hopefully before Q official release) because I think it'd benefit the most amount of users (Pie really does have some unique and useful features, even though I've seen others say that they are purely gimmicks).
I went from flip-phone, to HTC Incredible (great phone with a great hacking community), to hand-me-down Samsung G3 (same, although Knox sux), and finally a 2nd-hand LG G7 (unaware of LG's history and actually believing their "Quick Update Program" or whatever they called it). Just because I'm able, doesn't mean I'm willing to pay ~$1,000 USD just to buy an unlocked Pixel device. Maybe some more feature-rich Android One entries will join the bunch. I can see how/why people get into the Apple ecosystem x.x
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I have a pixel 3a XL now, which is on Sprint.. I do not care about the unlock status of this phone.. Reason. It has every thing I want, a good camera, and absolutely no bloat of any kind...

doubledragon5 said:
I have a pixel 3a XL now, which is on Sprint.. I do not care about the unlock status of this phone.. Reason. It has every thing I want, a good camera, and absolutely no bloat of any kind...
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Yeah, the reviews make it look like my ideal phone; I hope Google keeps making a midtier phone like the 3a as they release new lines. 3a/3a XL even reintroduced a standard headphone jack