Extra Use for S-Pen - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

First....I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this phone! Today was the first day in the 3 weeks that I've owned this phone that I've been able to get a low battery indicator. With my normal usage, I'm normally home and ready to charge with more than 30-40% left.
Now to my extra use for the s-pen. It works GREAT on those pesky levels of "Where's My Water". Those of you without kids may not find it useful but mine always want to see the next levels. Kinda feels like cheating knowing that the lines I'm able to draw are much tighter than with my fat fingers but that's the advantage of having the s-pen right?
P.S. also works well for kids playing Fruit Ninja too.....LOL

You should try it with apps like TouchRetouch and Afterfocus or photo retouching apps. It's awesome. The battery life make me smile every day.

Dmwitz said:
You should try it with apps like TouchRetouch and Afterfocus or photo retouching apps. It's awesome. The battery life make me smile every day.
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I used mines with photo retouching within the first few days. It will be hard for me to ever go back to not having a s pen. If Samsung ever left android but still released phones on this level I'd probably follow them out the door to where ever they were headed.

Silent25r said:
I used mines with photo retouching within the first few days. It will be hard for me to ever go back to not having a s pen. If Samsung ever left android but still released phones on this level I'd probably follow them out the door to where ever they were headed.
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I dunno man, Samsung didn't have Android back in the Instinct days... and tthose were some dark days, indeed.
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Blankrubber said:
I dunno man, Samsung didn't have Android back in the Instinct days... and tthose were some dark days, indeed.
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Samsung from the old days could be declared a different company. They have changed a lot in the past few years for the better. Android isn't the only area. Remember how awful the moment was? The gps issues of the galaxy s series one and two. The ssds, the ram, the tvs, Samsung is moving up and is probably a large part as to why Android is doing so well.
If I was apple that would be one part supplier I would wish to keep happy.
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Silent25r said:
If I was apple that would be one part supplier I would wish to keep happy.
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Yeah.. that's not happening....
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Repo...s-battery-provider-for-the-Apple-iPad_id36951
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emeraldayotte said:
Yeah.. that's not happening....
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Repo...s-battery-provider-for-the-Apple-iPad_id36951
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I hope their new partners serves them well. They are burning a bridge with Samsung. Look for even more bugs with the next Apple devices and even more customers buying them despite the increase of bugs.
Getting even more off topic. I actually support Apple to the extent of understanding that in order to have great things we need competition. I really hope windows 8 steps up their game and the new nokia company gains success. Would love to see htc and Motorola get their acts together and turn a profit. Let us all stop fighting and get on with the innovation. Looking forward to seeing the note 3 being a even greater device that will largely depend on how the competition is doing.
A huge add blocks the source so I can't see it. Looks like I'm going to have to install a add blocker even though I like supporting websites.
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What do u think about the new ipoop 5 ?

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I've been a long time iPhone user, since the first one, and I just bought a Galaxy s3 and can honestly say I don't miss it at all. The new one is just more of the same....
This is probably going to get locked down real fast.....but its definitely a BIG dissappointment. Some of my friends are turning into hypocrites real fast saying they'll buy it. Especially when they told me"I don't need a bigger screen, 3.5 is more than enough" this was when I had the x10, captivate, nexus s etc. iPhone users need to wake up.
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I just want them to tell us what's in that A6 chip and how much memory it has.
Herp derp SGS3 Tapatalk 2
My favorite part is the amount of threads that will be started here in the next 48 hours on this very subject.
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baskln said:
I've been a long time iPhone user, since the first one, and I just bought a Galaxy s3 and can honestly say I don't miss it at all. The new one is just more of the same....
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I was going to reply, just this..LOL so funny. I had every iPhone ever released until 3 weeks ago, got the GS3 and i couldn't be happier, iP5 is just a minor minor revision, playing catch up to the rest of the world.
The only feature I was eagerly looking forward to in the iPoop5 was NFC, but, nope, mobile payments are now set back a few years for everyone.
IN BEFORE THE THREAD's CLOSED!
The dead of apple is soon.
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I think this a forum about the Galaxy S III and this question doesn't belong here....
(you asked)
All i can say is i hope Samsung really DOES sue Apple for it's use of LTE....
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The only feature I was eagerly looking forward to in the iPoop5 was NFC, but, nope, mobile payments are now set back a few years for everyone.
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Good point. As much as I don't like apple, we need it to have NFC if we want it to become mainstream. My 2 cent
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yamaford said:
Good point. As much as I don't like apple, we need it to have NFC if we want it to become mainstream. My 2 cent
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Actually, what we really need would be Google Wallet support for our GS3's without the hack-around. But we know that wouldn't work with Apple since they're now Anti-Google. Forget where i saw it... think it was on the news earlier, but i like how they put it. Something along the lines of "There is so much competition between Apple and Google, that Apple decided to recreate the world." in regards to Apple's new maps system.
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This is probably going to get locked down real fast.....but its definitely a BIG dissappointment. Some of my friends are turning into hypocrites real fast saying they'll buy it. Especially when they told me"I don't need a bigger screen, 3.5 is more than enough" this was when I had the x10, captivate, nexus s etc. iPhone users need to wake up.
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Lol they do. They said my infuse is too big for pockets :face palm: now I just say I'm used to having big things in my pocket, but 4.5 isn't really all that large anymore. So many I sheep at my school, then again I'm at a richer private school lol they were all like ooohh ahh the iPhone 5 is the best. Then I shut them up when I told them about the gnote 2 haha.
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So when the iphone comes out with a lighter feeling phone, it feels impressively light, when Samsung comes out with one with a lighter feeling, it feels cheap.
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gunnyman said:
I think this a forum about the Galaxy S III and this question doesn't belong here....
(you asked)
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GS3 owner can have an opinion about other products specially if they are direct competitors, it is not about making he threat about OS vs OS, but general opinions about the product just announced.
How can you hate it? Its sooooo new. All the features are totallllly innovative. This is gonna change everything again LOL no
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All i can say is i hope Samsung really DOES sue Apple for it's use of LTE....
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Here you go: http://androidandme.com/2012/09/sma...ock-us-eu-sales-of-iphone-5-using-lte-patents
Apple is at it again, same old phone design. Lame is what I think it is. Honestly, whats changed? Basically nothing besides LTE. The event was more of a " we sold a billion of these and a trillion of these, and oh yeah heres the new iPhone 5 we gave it a bigger scree, now go wait in line"
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The only feature I was eagerly looking forward to in the iPoop5 was NFC, but, nope, mobile payments are now set back a few years for everyone.
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This.
Its almost impossible to get (cheap) nfc tags in Canada. I asked a Best Buy rep at the Eaton Centre store in Toronto a couple of days ago, and he had no idea what NFC was.
I was really hoping the new iphone would have it so that it would become 'mainstream', but guess we have to wait another year now. Also, doesn't help that stupid S Beam is incompatible with Android Beam (try transferring photos to any non-GS3 phone, it will fail..till we get updated to JellyBean)
cashyftw said:
So when the iphone comes out with a lighter feeling phone, it feels impressively light, when Samsung comes out with one with a lighter feeling, it feels cheap.
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i remember reading reviews almost 'ranting' about how light the galaxy s and galaxy s ii were. people were saying 'too light', 'does not feel premium because phone does not feel substantial in hand', 'iphone is perfect with high quality weight to it', 'sometimes not sure if in pocket or not'. something along those lines.
and i read this on a youtube comment but I think it could hold some truth. could Apple have not included nfc (even if it wanted to/why wouldn't they want to?), because it already finalized its aluminum design? fail.

S pen Test

Today I went to a sprint store inside Concord Mall just to test the S pen and was very disappointed. I even dream about this phone but thank god
I haven't sold my GS3 yet.
Click the video link and you'll know what I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY4eMzw_LTY
Are you really basing your review on a store model?
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It was mentioned before that the security device on the back might affect the performance of the s pen
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Mine works fine
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denttarek said:
It was mentioned before that the security device on the back might affect the performance of the s pen
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It definitely does
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Well I'll make sure when I pick up my note 2 front the sprint store that it doesn't have that device on the back of it before I get it
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
denttarek said:
It was mentioned before that the security device on the back might affect the performance of the s pen
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You might the right on that. Thank god again I dream wasn't crush.
gilbydakid said:
Are you really basing your review on a store model?
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That's my only option right now. I don't think a stranger would let me play with his or her phone.
K.0.0.L. said:
That's my only option right now. I don't think a stranger would let me play with his or her phone.
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That's not giving this awesome phone a fair shake though.
People beat the stuffing out of those store models. Trust me, if you get this phone you will not be disappointed.
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K.0.0.L. said:
Today I went to a sprint store inside Concord Mall just to test the S pen and was very disappointed. I even dream about this phone but thank god
I haven't sold my GS3 yet.
Click the video link and you'll know what I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY4eMzw_LTY
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I have had absolutely no problems with the S Pen. In fact my wife is an Industrial Designer, and said that the Pen isnt too far behind her WACOM and programs she uses for work. slight lag, but nothing to lose sleep over. for me the S Pen is almost a novelty.
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I have had absolutely no problems with the S Pen. In fact my wife is an Industrial Designer, and said that the Pen isnt too far behind her WACOM and programs she uses for work. slight lag, but nothing to lose sleep over. for me the S Pen is almost a novelty.
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The reason I was soo critical about it is because I need it to take note in class and always have it with me when I need to study.
i dont think a phone/tablet/any electronic device could ever replace pen/paper when it comes down to class and taking notes...not even a laptop. our brains learn best when we write things out, not just type them up and to take tons of class notes on a 5.55" screen is just silly...anyway, my s-pen was initially too sensitive and would register screen taps at times when I would only be hovering. following a fix in some thread, I probably love my phone more than all my other devices combined :good:
Theres a known issue with the s-pen and magnets. Mine works great.
Action Required: Samsung Galaxy Note II Display Issue
For Dealers who have ordered Vanguard electronic security for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
An interference issue has been discovered with the Samsung Galaxy Note II electronic security sensor during the use of the Notepad application.
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Guys - at the Sprint store the pen did not work for me AT ALL - the guys at the desk said "yeah, its not good - buy an iPhone 5 this thing sucks" - i bought it anyway, it works fine... CONFIRMING that at 3 stores I went to in order to find stock in Las Vegas, this was a problem and that with my device - no such problem.
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i dont think a phone/tablet/any electronic device could ever replace pen/paper when it comes down to class and taking notes...not even a laptop. our brains learn best when we write things out, not just type them up and to take tons of class notes on a 5.55" screen is just silly...anyway, my s-pen was initially too sensitive and would register screen taps at times when I would only be hovering. following a fix in some thread, I probably love my phone more than all my other devices combined :good:
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While I do agree that paper and pen are the best, I actually saw a girl in my organic chemistry class who took all her notes on her iPad. She drew structures and wrote formulas with a cheap, standard capacitive stylus, typed out whatever she could type out, and took pictures of slides and a pasted them into her notes. I'm not sure what program she used, but it was quite impressive to say the least. Of course, I think it requires learning the programs inside and out and making sure you can use them efficiently.
I have a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy Note II and wouldn't use either one to replace a notebook and a good mechanical pencil. I'm also not motivated enough to try though either lol.
If you're gonna take notes, just do a Bluetooth keyboard... makes more sense.
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Yea but there are some classes where you can't type everything? How do you draw a structure or diagram with a keyboard?
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TWO515TY said:
Yea but there are some classes where you can't type everything? How do you draw a structure or diagram with a keyboard?
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There is a great app called handrite in the market and it lets you type and draw in the same file as well as import pictures. I use it in meetings on my Xoom.

What in the world is that?!!!

I took my note 2 with me on a business trip. Whenever I pull it out, people will react dramatically and ask this question.
Now if it were you, how would you answer that?
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x2h said:
I took my note 2 with me on a business trip. Whenever I pull it out, people will react dramatically and ask this question.
Now if it were you, how would you answer that?
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I say its a "Phablet".
Tell them its the next big thing
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I simply respond, "Its awesome".
1. "Innovation" or "Real innovation"
2. "My Phone"
3. "The best phone I have ever owned"
Its my new toy.
Or
Its my phone on steroids!!
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cdshepherd said:
Tell them its the next big thing
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1. "Innovation" or "Real innovation"
2. "My Phone"
3. "The best phone I have ever owned"
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^ one of those sounds perfect
I would say its my ipad mini.
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Whenever I pull it out, people will react dramatically and ask this question.
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The Note 2 looks almost the same to casual observers as the original Note, which has been around since 2011. Hasn't everyone gotten used to seeing them by now?
Gary02468 said:
The Note 2 looks almost the same to casual observers as the original Note, which has been around since 2011. Hasn't everyone gotten used to seeing them by now?
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No, My wife has had the Note 1 since it came out and people still ask her about it.
I love "the best phone I ever owned!" I am coming over from the Apple universe and although I am still learning my way around Android... I absolutely love this phone!
I moved up from an iphone 4s and just holding the iphone now makes me feel like I'm handling a baby mouse. I could NEVER go back to such a small screen. Honestly the Note 2 doesn't even look that big. I've already gotten used to the bump up in screen size. Problem is the market is saturated with "baby mice" and when a rat comes along they freak out.
Gary02468 said:
The Note 2 looks almost the same to casual observers as the original Note, which has been around since 2011. Hasn't everyone gotten used to seeing them by now?
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I have never seen a Note I in the wild.
LOTS of iDevices and verious Androids but never a Note. I think wee are a special bread.
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I took my note 2 with me on a business trip. Whenever I pull it out, people will react dramatically and ask this question.
Now if it were you, how would you answer that?
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It's the iPhone 6. Havent you heard about it yet?
Person: "Is that a note in your pocket or are you happy to see me"
Me: "Both"
The future.
Tell them it's the next big thing to happen to the iphone, since the iphone...
Tell them you ran over your gs3 with a car and this is the end result. Awesome huh?
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Axtually I get this quite frequently since I use it like a mobile office. I visit aroud 6 to 8 different homes a day and the reaction is usually the same. I notice people studying it while I go threw documents and right about the time I whip out the s pen I hear "now that is to cool. What phone is that?" Or "What the heck?" . My tipical responce is "Oh this? This is my Gargantuphone! Its a Galaxy S III that ate a tablet , got on roids and squished an idevice in all the confusion. Samsung calls it the Note II. I call it hand held awsomness."
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SysAdmNj said:
I would say its my ipad mini.
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Totally this. All the way lol.

So who's downgrading to the new BB10?

I say that in jest, but curious to see who all is interested in BB or has their time come and gone? I've done a lot of research on their new phone and seen a lot of leaks, and see nothing really new. Looks to me like a mix between iPhone and Android.
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Not me. I had a 9700 for couple years, good phone and business device but when it comes to play time it fails. I'm a die hard android fan and with the exceptional piece of hardware the Note 2 is hard to leave it for BB.
BTW I am Canadian lol. Blackberry is just to late to the game. Another big Canadian IT company in the gutters
It would be pretty neat to get the launcher/themes over to Android, though wouldn't it? The interface seems pretty cool.
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Not me. I had a 9700 for couple years, good phone and business device but when it comes to play time it fails. I'm a die hard android fan and with the exceptional piece of hardware the Note 2 is hard to leave it for BB.
BTW I am Canadian lol. Blackberry is just to late to the game. Another big Canadian IT company in the gutters
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They should have joined touch screen club long ago plus use incorporate android to their device then you will see more interest.
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jon3sh said:
They should have joined touch screen club long ago plus use incorporate android to their device then you will see more interest.
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They did play in the full touch screen world early on but it failed. Blackberry's key selling point is the keyboard it self. Regarding OS, I've been saying it for over a year, Blackberry should have played with Android earlier on.
I'm waiting to get it on my playbook
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Whats a blackberry 10? J/k, leave this monster for that, no not me.
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This is pretty funny

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/jelly-bean-update-blackberry-10-android-runtime/
Sounds like BB10 is going to get Jelly Bean while the majority of Android devices won't! LMAO!
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/jelly-bean-update-blackberry-10-android-runtime/
Sounds like BB10 is going to get Jelly Bean while the majority of Android devices won't! LMAO!
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I would actually get the BB10 looks cool.
That is funny. It won't be as funny when they get updated first.
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That is funny. It won't be as funny when they get updated first.
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LOL, I thought the same thing
Funny but just sad. LG seems to be following the path that everyone expected with the lgog. Can't produce updates in a timely manner at all. I know that they are releasing worldwide jb but I dont care about that. Lol. We will probably get jb when key lime pie is out. Ugh.
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If they already released JB in Korea, the it's more than likely the update is in our illustrious domestic carriers possession awaiting their approval.
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If they already released JB in Korea, the it's more than likely the update is in our illustrious domestic carriers possession awaiting their approval.
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I'm thinking that too but I feel like if it was it would got leaked by now
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Looks cool the only thing I can say is does anybody else remember thier blackberry touch screen experience? Uh cause i do starting with the wonderful Storm ( POS) all of the Torch family (POS) and even the new BOLD , they just have so many failed attempts it is unlikely this will be much different.
BUT and that is a BIG BUT this LGOG is something I wouldnt have never expected from LG , not since the original LG 510 has there been a more stable and good working phone.
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Looks cool the only thing I can say is does anybody else remember thier blackberry touch screen experience? Uh cause i do starting with the wonderful Storm ( POS) all of the Torch family (POS) and even the new BOLD , they just have so many failed attempts it is unlikely this will be much different.
BUT and that is a BIG BUT this LGOG is something I wouldnt have never expected from LG , not since the original LG 510 has there been a more stable and good working phone.
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Blackberry seems to be shooting to be just good enough with this phone. Dual core processor, 1 gb RAM and a smaller screen by today's standards seem like this is the device they are testing the waters with when really they should go for broke. Realistically this could be their last hurrah.
Personally I want to see them succeed. I dont think i will ever buy another blackberry, but a third strong OS would keep all systems innovating at a very high rate instead of encouraging stagnation.
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Hd2 was able to run ICS before most android devices at the time. The webos tablet and blackberry was also able to run android. Doesn't surprise me the bb10 will too. A smartphone these days no matter the stock OS can in some way run android. Even the iPhone could run android and has in the past
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Blackberry seems to be shooting to be just good enough with this phone. Dual core processor, 1 gb RAM and a smaller screen by today's standards seem like this is the device they are testing the waters with when really they should go for broke. Realistically this could be their last hurrah.
Personally I want to see them succeed. I dont think i will ever buy another blackberry, but a third strong OS would keep all systems innovating at a very high rate instead of encouraging stagnation.
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Nicely put exactly what I was thinking.
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I certainly hope it isn't their last anything.
Look, you might think the hardware isn't all there. That isn't the big picture. Watch your mind explode. No iPhone, no Android as we know it, No widgets, no Windows 8, and to come full circle, no blackberry, no iPhone.
Android will die one day. Blackberry might die too. Analyst are already predicting the iPhone's doom. But, BB only gives us more. The ideas that blackberry comes up with will enhance the android phones. Competition brings innovation. I hope blackberry does great and brings timely updates too. Imagine if all the other os's updated like Apple. Don't think for a second blackberry didn't take note to our fragmentation. They have the same 2 phones worldwide for a reason.
And don't think for a second our brand loyalty its less fickle than it is. We will jump ship in drones. Blackberry might not be leading the pack now. But, now is very relative.
So, i agree with everyone.
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I certainly hope it isn't their last anything.
Look, you might think the hardware isn't all there. That isn't the big picture. Watch your mind explode. No iPhone, no Android as we know it, No widgets, no Windows 8, and to come full circle, no blackberry, no iPhone.
Android will die one day. Blackberry might die too. Analyst are already predicting the iPhone's doom. But, BB only gives us more. The ideas that blackberry comes up with will enhance the android phones. Competition brings innovation. I hope blackberry does great and brings timely updates too. Imagine if all the other os's updated like Apple. Don't think for a second blackberry didn't take note to our fragmentation. They have the same 2 phones worldwide for a reason.
And don't think for a second our brand loyalty its less fickle than it is. We will jump ship in drones. Blackberry might not be leading the pack now. But, now is very relative.
So, i agree with everyone.
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Blackberry is done besides bbm what can they really offer? Android apps?
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genaro12543 said:
Blackberry is done besides bbm what can they really offer? Android apps?
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The only level of encryption approved by pretty much every government worldwide for their secure communications. Blackberry will still have it's place in corporate and gov't settings for a while yet, but I don't see the mass appeal that they want and need to regain their once dominant position. They would have to do something more eye-popping than what they did.
On a somewhat different note, what are thoughts that some others have about upcoming platforms? Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu, etc... I read that Samsung will be releasing Tizen phones in Q3.
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The only level of encryption approved by pretty much every government worldwide for their secure communications. Blackberry will still have it's place in corporate and gov't settings for a while yet, but I don't see the mass appeal that they want and need to regain their once dominant position. They would have to do something more eye-popping than what they did.
On a somewhat different note, what are thoughts that some others have about upcoming platforms? Firefox OS, Tizen, Ubuntu, etc... I read that Samsung will be releasing Tizen phones in Q3.
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Well see...I'm happy with the direction android is going in so far. if anything, since iOS doesn't seem to be encouraging innovation with that boring stagnant ui and features, I would like a good third player in the market whoever it may be to keep Google on its toes and android moving along. But blackberry? They had their chance years ago I'm over it and no people won't "flock" to another os people don't think that way
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I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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kc_exactly said:
I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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I agree with that sentiment. For the average person, blackberry is a known name so they'll give it a shot. And if the OS is smooth and understandable, they won't have any trouble flocking to it. And businesses will buy in bulk.
kc_exactly said:
I think more ppl would flock than you expect. If what they want is simple and their when the need it. I like android but it is confusing. People like comfort and usability.
Now, I don't think they will leave in droves. But, I don't think BlackBerry will disappear either.
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You hit it right there that people prefer comfort thats why (since rim gave people PLENTY of time to get comfortable with android lol) I don't think they'll FLOCK but I agree there will be people willing to give it a shot and yeah it could actually catch momentum so all we can do is wait and watch haha I'm excited to see how the mobile landscape looks by the end of this year since it changes so rapidly
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I believe android will remain dominant for many years to come I see bb10 as more of a threat to wp8. BlackBerry has made it easy to port over android apps meaning they could easily out shine wp quickly when it comes to apps. I also believe people will defect from android also but not in droves android will remain dominant if only for the choices you can get their is a device out their that fits everyone's needs
Here is a question? Will we need to buy the app again? I assume so. Honestly, both phones are appealing.
There was a good article today about the demise of phones. It could be a great thing. If the losers leave and the leaders cut back we might see more stellar phones from less manufacturers. Lg won't make 30 different phones a year. So, the 5 they end up making might get faster updates.
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