a very strange hard brick - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi!
First of all i got AOKP + Franco kernel for 2w without any problem and I didn't change any option since last week.
This morning i rebooted it, it switched off and it didn't start again.
I cannot switch one my nexus again since then. I have always a black screen, also if I try to enter in download mode or in the recovery.
I tried to connect to my computer and smt times my laptop see a omap4400 (i'm not sure about the name) but after few second it disappears.
Tomorrow I'm going to the service center... But I have a big doubt:
What the hell happened this morning?
Thanks

Remove the battery for 5 minutes and try again.
If that doesn't work,
Follow this guide:
1. Download the zip file from http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f634...eeeee-1465412/, created by Legija
2. Extract zip to whatever location you're comfortable with (I used Android directory)
3. Open up Device Manager (Hold down Windows Key, press R, the type in devmgmt.msc and press OK)
4. Go to actions menu, select Add Legacy Hardware
5. Choose install manually, then have disk. Browse to where you extracted the zip, select the 'inf' file in usb_drv_windows
6. Choose OMAP, you'll get a popup if on Win 7, continue anyway (driver not signed)
7. Once completed with driver, pull battery out of phone, then plug it into USB
8. Double click omap4460_tuna_hs_pro.bat to start the process
9. Once completed, unplug from USB, put battery back in, and power-up!
10. Extra step - depending on what's been done, it may 'brick' again - suggest to do a restore or a wipe reinstall afterwards to be certain (mine bricked again next reboot)
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biscuitownz said:
Remove the battery for 5 minutes and try again.
If that doesn't work,
Follow this guide:
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This, if OP can't reach fastboot.
Sent from my i9250

I'm having the exact same problem. I saw my phone at maybe 10% battery in the AM, said screw it and let it die, woke up this morning and plugged the phone in and nothing. No LED light, black screen, completely unresponsive. I've tried every trick in the book, and the only one that seemed to work marginally even was using a different battery, which got my phone to boot to the encryption screen, but then shut off again. It did that twice, and now both batteries are useless.
I used Legija's program to try and bring some life back to my gnex, even though it's not the international version, just in hopes of getting some of my data back (I have already started the replacement process with Verizon since the phone was insured), but I got no luck there either.
It's extremely disappointing and annoying to me that this phone survived all sorts of ROM installations (I was also using AOKP on 4.1 if someone wants to start making connections), reformatting, tweaking, almost every setting on that phone was modified by me.
Not only that but almost any software or hardware problem I did run into I could solve in maybe an hour, but I let my charge run out and the phone just up and bricks itself? Now, that's just bull****... I would be very curious as to an explanation as to WHY on earth this would happen. Very confusing.
Not to hijack the thread, but my interest here is not restoring the phone to working condition but just seeing if I can pull my data off of it. I wouldn't even be posting here had I been able to have an SD card with my gnex, which I figured was unnecessary at the time I bought it since I knew the space on their was enough for me already, and the added branding of "Nexus" brand which had me under the impression it was maybe stable enough by itself. Not a mistake I'll make again..
Is it at all possible to get the data off of my phone at this point? At least partially? I believe encryption makes it impossible but I'm rather stubborn. Any help would be greatly appreciated..

owlieowl said:
I'm having the exact same problem. I saw my phone at maybe 10% battery in the AM, said screw it and let it die, woke up this morning and plugged the phone in and nothing. No LED light, black screen, completely unresponsive. I've tried every trick in the book, and the only one that seemed to work marginally even was using a different battery, which got my phone to boot to the encryption screen, but then shut off again. It did that twice, and now both batteries are useless.
I used Legija's program to try and bring some life back to my gnex, even though it's not the international version, just in hopes of getting some of my data back (I have already started the replacement process with Verizon since the phone was insured), but I got no luck there either.
It's extremely disappointing and annoying to me that this phone survived all sorts of ROM installations (I was also using AOKP on 4.1 if someone wants to start making connections), reformatting, tweaking, almost every setting on that phone was modified by me.
Not only that but almost any software or hardware problem I did run into I could solve in maybe an hour, but I let my charge run out and the phone just up and bricks itself? Now, that's just bull****...
Not to hijack the thread, but my interest here is not restoring the phone to working condition but just seeing if I can pull my data off of it. I wouldn't even be posting here had I been able to have an SD card with my gnex, which I figured was unnecessary at the time I bought it since I knew the space on their was enough for me already, and the added branding of "Nexus" brand which had me under the impression it was maybe stable enough by itself. Not a mistake I'll make again..
Is it at all possible to get the data off of my phone at this point? At least partially? I believe encryption makes it impossible but I'm rather stubborn. Any help would be greatly appreciated..
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So just to be clear... You've been able to get it to boot all the way up to the encryption screen, right? If so you should be able to get into fastboot (Holding down BOTH volume rockers and the power key.) From there you could relock/unlock the bootloader to do a full factory wipe which might solve your boot issue.
As far as the data loss from the wipe, you could then try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705

TomBall718 said:
So just to be clear... You've been able to get it to boot all the way up to the encryption screen, right? If so you should be able to get into fastboot (Holding down BOTH volume rockers and the power key.) From there you could relock/unlock the bootloader to do a full factory wipe which might solve your boot issue.
As far as the data loss from the wipe, you could then try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705
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I was able to get it to the encryption screen with my old battery that had a little bit of charge left in it twice, but it shut itself down on me both times. So now both batteries are useless.. I took it to the Verizon store hoping they would maybe try one of their batteries, but they just called customer service and told me they're just going to replace it at this point.
I have a feeling the charging mechanism is somehow damaged, because when I did get it to the encryption screen I had it plugged into a wall outlet and it wasn't charging at all. So, I can't turn the phone on whatsoever anymore.. if I could turn it on I could solve this problem... but it simply refuses to boot. The closest I came to interfacing with it was the OMAP Flash script, which did work, but didn't fix the problem.
So maybe if I could get the phone working enough to use ADB with it I could get my data back, but not even that seems possible..

owlieowl said:
I was able to get it to the encryption screen with my old battery that had a little bit of charge left in it twice, but it shut itself down on me both times. So now both batteries are useless.. I took it to the Verizon store hoping they would maybe try one of their batteries, but they just called customer service and told me they're just going to replace it at this point.
I have a feeling the charging mechanism is somehow damaged, because when I did get it to the encryption screen I had it plugged into a wall outlet and it wasn't charging at all. So, I can't turn the phone on whatsoever anymore.. if I could turn it on I could solve this problem... but it simply refuses to boot. The closest I came to interfacing with it was the OMAP Flash script, which did work, but didn't fix the problem.
So maybe if I could get the phone working enough to use ADB with it I could get my data back, but not even that seems possible..
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If the phone isn't charging then there's something wrong with the USB port. One way to test that would be to use a battery charger. Also, try a different cable. I've had issues with a few different cables that for whatever reason started to not fit properly in the phone.
If you're USB port has gone bad then you'll need to either A) Always use an external battery charger. B) Get a replacement. C) Fix it yourself (Good guide here: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repairi...+LTE)+Micro+USB+Charge+Port+&+Main+Mic/9641/1 )

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Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power.

I have an extra Excalibur with the official T Mobile WM6 rom that isn't working. When I turn the phone on, I get a screen with a white background, red text, and blue soft key buttons that reads:
Device start up failed dueto s
udden loss of power. Please c
lick "yes" to continue.
Note:
Do not remove battery be
fore device has been comple
tely shutdown (OFF).
Yes | No
If I press yes the phone does a power cycle and hangs at either the T Mobile splash screen or the WM6 splash screen. I've had no luck with a hard reset. Anybody familiar with this issue? It isn't a huge deal. Currently I'm using a Cavalier and I also have a working Excalibur and a working Wizard, both with 6.1 roms. However, it's be nice to get this phone working.
Only time I ever seen that error is when I ws messing with editing a ROM and must of removed a file that screwed WM up. Now since you say it's the official T-Mo ROM maybe it got currupted somehow. How I fixed it was the Hard Reset the USB way. Hold down the camera button while plugging in the USB with the cell off. It'll load the boat loader and you need to reflash with an official ROM. Now I know you said you Hard Reset, but I've seen people explain a few differents methods all being explained as Hard resetting. This method worked for me during my testing.
I'm flashing the original rom and everything seems to be working alright.
I really appreciate your help man.
Okay, I wish I had better news but I'm still running into problems. After I finished installing the rom from T-MO's website, I powered the phone on. It showed the T-Mo screen, then the WM6 Screen, then played the T-Mo animation/sound. The screen stuck here, and the phone would not power off so I removed the battery and put it back in. I then got the original error message and pressed yes, and the phone lagged at the same point again.
how long did you wait for fist boot?
rickwyatt said:
how long did you wait for fist boot?
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Like Ricky said, how long did you wait? The first boot could take a while, the flash is going to perform a "Cold Boot Config". It take a bit longer that first time to load.
I actually got it to prompt me for cold boot config once, but after finishing the phone rebooted and hung once again.
I don't know, maybe you got a hardware problem. I'd try reflashing it again and when it boots the first time don't touch it and see what happens. If it hangs for more then say 10 mins. I'd say you might be having a hardware problem.
Hmm. I guess I most definitely have a hardware problem. An error of that sort would most likely be from a faulty motherboard, correct? I have a dash that was taken into the lake not too long ago. Everything recovered okay, other than the screen. The phone no longer turns on for a completely different reason, but I think the guts are mostly good.
Is it possible to change out motherboards? If so, is it unwise to try the motherboard that went swimming with me over the summer?
Well considering neither work, what do you have to loose? lol I say try swapping aprts and see what comes of it. I have seen cells "go swimming before and servive as long as the battery is removed right away and it's allowed to dry thoroughly. They don't opperate on much voltage so short curcuits due to water is not as bad as say a 12 volt or higher device.
Also, I forgot to mention the status on the phone. Okay, I can flash an official ROM and it will boot up and run Cold Boot Config. After that the phone will power cycle. It hangs a little bit at the T-Mo splash screen, but does eventually start. At that point it basically works flawlessly, except I cannot detect it through ActiveSync via USB.
Once the phone powers off, it will not turn back on. I don't get the original error message, just nothing happens. Only way to get the phone turned on again is to hold the camera button down while plugging in the USB cord, and start all over flashing an official ROM.
Yeah, I would say hardware failure. It's a complete new flash so it shouldn't be suffering from a software problem. Maybe the ROM Chip is damaged causing errors to the WM installation. Same thing as a bad hard drive in a computer that will currupt files and end up crashing the system.
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Yeah, I would say hardware failure. It's a complete new flash so it shouldn't be suffering from a software problem. Maybe the ROM Chip is damaged causing errors to the WM installation. Same thing as a bad hard drive in a computer that will currupt files and end up crashing the system.
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That's exactly what i'm thinking too, sounds like a hardware error as a flash wont solve it.
So what piece of hardware is the most likely culprit?
I never took mine apart, but I would say it's the ROM Chip which should be soldered to the motherboard. If it is replace the whole motherboard...
t mobile dash
so when holding down the camera key and plug the usb do i try to also turn it on what am i looking for and how long do i hold the keys down
thank you

Samsung Galaxy S2 won't boot to main menu, and has seizures.

I'm having a huge problem with my T-Mobile Galaxy S2, and not it won't even completely boot up. The issue had already been around, but never this bad. Usually, when I would use my phone, it would just randomly reboot on it's own. Now, I can't even get to the main home screen or menu. When the battery is inserted, the phone will automatically try to turn on. I'll get the Samsung screen, then the "Samsung Galaxy SII Android 4G T-Mobile screen", then the phone will glitch for a second, black screen, and it'll almost have a seizure from then on. When I say that, pretty much what happens is that the screen will go black, and it'll pulse with vibrations. It'll vibrate, stop for two seconds, vibrate some more, etc. That's all it'll do from there on. It won't try to turn on when I hold the power button, and the vibrations won't stop until I take the battery out. There is no water damage, and there's just normal wear on the phone. I've had the phone since the drop, and for the most part, it's been great until now.
The phone is not rooted, and I have not installed anything crazy. Come to think about it, I didn't really even have too many apps installed on it to begin with. The phone is under warranty, so I had T-Mobile send me a replacement. My main issue now is that I have content on there that wasn't on my SD card, but on the internal hard drive that I find extremely important, and want to keep. When I connect the phone to my computer, nothing comes up because I didn't "connect" it to the computer as you normally would have to do from the phone, before the extra drives pop up on the computer. Without getting into the main menu and manually connecting the phone to the computer so that the drive will pop up, what can I do?
I've tried taking the battery, sim card and memory card out, letting it sit for a few hours, and plug it back in, but it does the same thing. The battery isn't bad, because it plugs into the replacement phone that was sent to me, and works just fine. I've also plugged into my additional batteries, and it does the same thing. I can't do the "hard reset" where you hold volume up & down, then the power button because what happens is the phone will restart itself before I can get to that point. I tried it when I was on the phone with T-Mobile, and the associate at one of the retail locations tried when I went to get a loaner. I've tried hooking up the phone to the Kies software, but it won't recognize the old phone. It will recognize the new one with no problems though.
I am in no way am I well versed with the process of flashing it or installing different things on the phone. I just used it casually for phone calls, texts, web, and an occasional game or app. I'm just stating this so that if there are any specific tips that anyone could recommend, please if possible, explain in a bit more depth, because after I posted my title, I found the related threads, and most of the steps that were recommended to others that had problems sound a bit foreign to me. I just really want to recover the photos and documents that I had on the phone before I send it back to T-Mobile.
These are the threads that I've somewhat referenced so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948094
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457458x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813866
I can't seem to find anything with the same symptoms as my phone though. If anyone could let me know, that would be great. I just really want to get the content off my old phone, it's just extremely important to me. I'll be waiting on any replies. If you need and more information about what the phone is doing, or what I should try, please mention it. I will try to update this as I get replies, since I am supposed to send the phone back pretty soon. Thank you in advance.
You have a stuck or broken power button. Stick a toothpick or something into the power button whole and take out any gunk if there is. If that doesn't help, then you have a broken power button and you have to get your phone fixed.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
So from what I understand your phone does not boot up to the home screen at all and you are trying to recover all the files from the internal storage? I've been in the same situation as you, although, with my previous android (Samsung Captivate) and I know how hectic this situation is...
If you can enter recovery mode still without the phone restarting itself and if you're willing to flash a custom rom that should help you get into the home screen to recover your files, as it shouldn't remove anything from the internal storage (just as long as you don't format the internal storage/system in recovery).
The phone 'seizure' you are experiencing may also be caused by physical damage, such as the internal memory becoming defective (hopefully not the case).
You mentioned that you can't turn on the phone with the power button and the phone only turns on when you place the battery... that's the same thing that happened with my old phone and it turned out that I had to disassemble the phone and clean/replace the power button. After that the phone turned on like normally again, however, I had to flash a new rom for it to properly boot up.
As a last resort, if you can enter 'Download Mode' via button combo or usb jig you can use Odin to flash a stock rom. However, the files you originally have in the phone will be removed, which you definitely do not want. But at least your phone will possibly work again.
At the moment, I don't think there is any way to recover the files you need from the internal memory without being able to boot up the phone to get it connected to your computer. If you do manage to boot to the home screen, but can't connect your phone to your computer. You can always do a wireless transfer to a cloud based storage such as Dropbox (you can use the android app) and just transfer your files from your phone through that.
I hope I am of some help to you, if I find any other solutions I'll let you know. Good luck!

[Q] Black screen and no booting.

So the other day I let my n7 die completely, which has happened in the past. Today I went to charge it with my computer and turn it on, so I plugged it into my laptop's USB port. For reference, I just installed Windows 8 and there are no android drivers on my laptop. Anyway, I plug it in and hold the power button and it shows me the google screen, then it goes to a black screen annnndddddddd.... Nothing. It stayed there until I did a hard kill. I can get to the bootloader as well as TWRP. Within TWRP I cleared the caches, and ran a fix permissions. Nothing. I've backed up in TWRP and have yet to wipe my data because that's a last resort for me at this point. Right now its sitting on the charger. When I plug it in I get the battery thing as well as the battery charging thing, however after the battery charging thing goes away I can't call it back up. (usually it'll go away but you can hit the power button and it will come back).
This appears to be a hard brick but I'm not sure. I was running 4.4.2 stock, rooted, bootloader unlocked, with Gravity Box, but that's it. Otherwise I've been running normal user stuff and it has been (up until now) just fine, normal battery life and everything.
nrock2256 said:
So the other day I let my n7 die completely, which has happened in the past. Today I went to charge it with my computer and turn it on, so I plugged it into my laptop's USB port. For reference, I just installed Windows 8 and there are no android drivers on my laptop. Anyway, I plug it in and hold the power button and it shows me the google screen, then it goes to a black screen annnndddddddd.... Nothing. It stayed there until I did a hard kill. I can get to the bootloader as well as TWRP. Within TWRP I cleared the caches, and ran a fix permissions. Nothing. I've backed up in TWRP and have yet to wipe my data because that's a last resort for me at this point. Right now its sitting on the charger. When I plug it in I get the battery thing as well as the battery charging thing, however after the battery charging thing goes away I can't call it back up. (usually it'll go away but you can hit the power button and it will come back).
This appears to be a hard brick but I'm not sure. I was running 4.4.2 stock, rooted, bootloader unlocked, with Gravity Box, but that's it. Otherwise I've been running normal user stuff and it has been (up until now) just fine, normal battery life and everything.
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I fixed it. Something happened between the battery draining completely and me trying to turn it on that was causing a /system mount failure, thus the black screen after the bootloader. Here's how I fixed it:
I downloaded the full restore zip from Google (Mine was KOT49H at the time of posting this).
Then I opened the package, and the second package within the first one. I extraced the system.img file to my desktop.
After extracting the system.img file, I used fastboot on my computer to flash the system in my bootloader, and now its back to normal. No data was lost, nothing broken. I re rooted and everything seems to be in working order.
Good job! I know none of my 1st gen N7's liked to be drained completely so I make a big effort not to. Phones don't seem to have issues like these tablets sometimes do.
wantabe said:
Good job! I know none of my 1st gen N7's liked to be drained completely so I make a big effort not to. Phones don't seem to have issues like these tablets sometimes do.
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Is my phone lost?

So i have had my zenfone for awhile now. i unlocked the bootloader and was able to root it with a temp CWM. it was going fine for a long time.
Then one day my phone started to act up. wouldn't read texts right, false notifications, and app crashing. i thought maybe i had a virus so i ran a cleaning app (Clean Master and Lookout) but they found nothing. so i thought why not restarting the phone? seems to work for some.... *sigh*
Upon restarting the phone i am now stuck on the ZenPhone flip case thing... with the info on the circle. i thought maybe i dropped my phone sometime or somewhere and the case got stuck. okay simple fix, i tried using a magnet to open the case... and it did nothing.
Then I tired going into recovery mode by going through fast boot. but selecting anything in fast boot causes the phone to "freeze" and endlessly vibrate. It can't even detect when its plugged into the computer so i cant do commands on it from fast boot. i cant even do it from the OS as i think when its in the flip thing it doesn't allow PC access (at least i think). but the strange part about being on the OS, is that when phone goes to sleep (screen turns off), it "freezes".
What i'm asking here is there a way to fix this or is this phone lost. i made this account just for this... please help!
Good luck, I wish I had never bought this phone. I've sent it back to A-Sucks two damn times and it's still nothing more than a phone that always has some kind of an issue.
Chocketbear said:
Good luck, I wish I had never bought this phone. I've sent it back to A-Sucks two damn times and it's still nothing more than a phone that always has some kind of an issue.
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Well i'm not one for giving up so easily. tho i am stumped on this, i would like it if i didnt have to send this back to asus... plus i think i voided my warranty.
Sonrio224 said:
Well i'm not one for giving up so easily. tho i am stumped on this, i would like it if i didnt have to send this back to asus... plus i think i voided my warranty.
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You have a different issue, yeah don't send it back.
Maybe you can try twrp manager app to flash recovery if you can boot the system
titou4488 said:
Maybe you can try twrp manager app to flash recovery if you can boot the system
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I tried that. my computer, or any other computer i tried, doesn't detect its connected when in fast boot nor in the OS.
when trying to use the normal recovery on the phone. it gets stuck in an endless vibration until i turn it off.
Booting into anything (i.e. Normal boot, recovery) from fast boot causes the vibration hang
Sonrio224 said:
I tried that. my computer, or any other computer i tried, doesn't detect its connected when in fast boot nor in the OS.
when trying to use the normal recovery on the phone. it gets stuck in an endless vibration until i turn it off.
Booting into anything (i.e. Normal boot, recovery) from fast boot causes the vibration hang
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Re-read that, nothing was said about the PC...
ultramag69 said:
Re-read that, nothing was said about the PC...
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my bad... either way, i still cant get into the OS as its stuck on the ZenPhone flip case thing as i stated above. it wont let me do anything from there.
if the phone cannot be saved. i might as well sell it for parts.
Before that, have you tried totally discharging the battery, leaving for a day or 2 to get rid of any last traces of power from the RAM then recharging and starting up again?
Might be something screwy going on with the phones hardware but these things are literally PC's and sometimes they need to have a good shutdown to get rid of all the quirks stuck in ram.
If you don't want to wait, you could just open up and disconnect the battery. You were only going to sell as parts anyway....
ultramag69 said:
Before that, have you tried totally discharging the battery, leaving for a day or 2 to get rid of any last traces of power from the RAM then recharging and starting up again?
Might be something screwy going on with the phones hardware but these things are literally PC's and sometimes they need to have a good shutdown to get rid of all the quirks stuck in ram.
If you don't want to wait, you could just open up and disconnect the battery. You were only going to sell as parts anyway....
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haven't tried that. ill fully drain the battery and see where i get
Okay so good news. that actually worked... i think. i took the battery out for a bit and let it sit, then i put it back in and it booted up just fine!
but now i have a new issue, i can no longer talk on phone calls. speaker isn't working for some reason. might have put it back together wrong.
all things considered, thank you so much for the help!
No worries, good luck on the speaker issue...

[SOLVED][Q] CQATest application appears with emergency led flash light

Hi,
I'm wondering if there's anyone else who is facing this problem or I'm just unlucky.
On last Sunday, when I was listening to YouTube Music at a low battery (around 15%), after a while the phone shut itself off. I guess it was just the phone ran out of battery so I tried to charge it. But the moment I plugged in the charger, the hidden emergency flash light in the front turned on (the one on top right). When the phone successfully booted up, an application called CQATest appeared with a notification. The phone won't charge and take SIM card anymore since then.
I've done some research and tried many methods to fix it, including reboot in the recovery, factory reset, using adb to change boot mode, reflash the rom, disabling the CQATest app. None of them could solve my problem. Disabling the CQATest app does let me to have signal again, but I still cannot get the phone charge. It shows Turbo Power connected, but not charging.
Is there anybody facing the same issue, or even better, have a solution?
Thank you.
Update: I found a solution for this. I put my phone to fastboot mode and charge it from there, overnight. Next morning, it's working normal again.
You can always try a custom ROM. And make sure to format every partition in TWRP before - format, not just wipe.
If that works you can try other stuff. If not you have a hardware issue is guess and only a phone repair could fix that.
PS: try a different charger. If it's only not charging it might be an issue there. And have you tried to charge it while the device is shut down?
Artim_96 said:
You can always try a custom ROM. And make sure to format every partition in TWRP before - format, not just wipe.
If that works you can try other stuff. If not you have a hardware issue is guess and only a phone repair could fix that.
PS: try a different charger. If it's only not charging it might be an issue there. And have you tried to charge it while the device is shut down?
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Thank you for your reply. Yes I did try another charger. However I'm using a Qualcomm qualified charger so I don't think that's an issue. I brought it to UbreakIfix and they told me it's a motherboard problem so the only way to fix it is to change the motherboard. It'll cost a phone to do that. I'm just wandering if there's any body else who is having the same issue. Because my problem appeared out of no where.
That's normal. Hardware problems often appear out of nowhere all the sudden. And it's always hard the really on them down to a source.
And yes, repairs for not typical phones are always expensive. On my first Z Play the screen cracked. Seeing the price of a repair and realising I could get an unused Z2 Play for the same money you can guess what I did. Can't say I regret it too much.

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