Hmm? Posted 2 days ago
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/ht...ice-cream-sandwich-works-android-4-ics-28378/
The story behind the HTC Droid Incredible 2 and its Ice Cream Sandwich update that never came is quite long and full of pushbacks and angry letters. In case you’ve followed us during the past few months, you should already be aware of how things unfolded thus far. In a nutshell, the Incredible 2 was supposed to receive the Android 4.0 update, alongside the HTC Thunderbolt, by the end of August. That obviously didn’t happen and the roll-out has been pushed back indefinitely.
Better Link (Not sure how I missed this on the DL)
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...ible-2-owners-waiting-for-ice-cream-sandwich/
So you could say our ice cream is still being "churned"? Or is it still being agitated?
I like how the article says they are having connectivity problems with the update. Don't they read this forum? We had the same issue with the leak...but all of the other ROMS work. Why can't they figure out what the Devs did here and incorporate it...?
I do hate to be a Negative-Nancy, but I call B.S.
It's like the cheating BF/GF. Lies don't stop. It is a habit of misleading. Key word is habit.
This subject is a very sore one for me. I think ALL Android should be open source. I thought that was the point, and what made Android better than the rest.
What it comes down to is, I will believe it when I see it.
Though this did rile me up again enough that I will be writing to HTC again. Probably at least, but not only on their Facebook page.
As always, I encourage you to do the same. Squeeky wheel gets the grease, y'know.
I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2
phonetool said:
I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Agreed... Besides, the news is better than a definitive " HTC Scraps ICS Update" response...
Sounds like tomorrow is sooner than it was in the past.
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Still waiting.. waiting.. waiting..
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phonetool said:
I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Nice? Really? Nice should have been out the window the moment they passed their already ridiculously late deadline. ICS came out over a year ago and those clowns are still "working on it"? HTC clearly doesn't care about their customers so I don't see how politely asking them to do something is going to amount to anything I am glad they're experiencing record losses I'll never buy another one of their products. It's easier to pass the buck than it is to actually care about your customers and put in some work this update will never be released because neither party really cares.
ICS
I think that as soon as the "connectivity issues" (WiFi Tether Lockdown) are finally coded in we will see ICS for the DInc II.
That's what we got with the Spectrum.
It's more for the grandfathered unlimited customers, motivation to switch to the "Gimi What You Got", VomitRizen shakedown.
Ever since the "Paid Off" FCC allowed these cheeswads to fleece the public with tiered data plans they are chocking us on it...
It is probably a better deal for those who yak for hours and text up the **s.
But for me, the $60.00 a month increase for my 5 family members to have emergency communication, is just plain cruel.
As much as it hurts, I will have to kick out the lines one at a time.
Thanks Big Reda.
"We don't have any timing specifics right now, Chris. We'll let you know once we learn more!", was the response I got from an inquiry on their FB page.
Same thing they've been saying since the end of August.
And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear. The galaxy note 2 is already out and it feels like the note 1 JUST came out. That's a bit ridiculous in my opinion lol. My friend had his og droid only 2 years ago..and think of all the android phones since then.
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JehC said:
Same thing they've been saying since the end of August.
And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear. The galaxy note 2 is already out and it feels like the note 1 JUST came out. That's a bit ridiculous in my opinion lol. My friend had his og droid only 2 years ago..and think of all the android phones since then.
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That's how profit is made tho. Releasing a newer phone to get people to jump to the latest and greatest so that's why they tue them down to a 2 year because slot of people just wanna be on the greatest I know a lot switching from the s3 to dna or note 2 its all based on making money
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And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear.
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Sounds good in theory to only release a new phone every 2 years but not everyone's contracts begin and end at the same time. Also like the post above me mentioned some people are willing to shell out for the latest and greatest, and others might just have monthly plans.
ETF and grandfathered unlimited is enough for me to stick with my phone for a while though
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apple manages to do it. they might not wait 2 years for every phone but they literally only have the One line of phones and keep them all updated, and still make a ton of money. >.> albeit i'm not an apple fan at all. just stating the obvious here.
This is why I'm not going for an HTC phone ever again. This is obviously a publicity stunt pulled off only by HTC.
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Nah, i believe that issues did come up. I like my HTC phone to much to leave HTC over a delayed update that i don't even care about.
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Nah, i believe that issues did come up. I like my HTC phone to much to leave HTC over a delayed update that i don't even care about.
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Issues caused by all their bloatware, no doubt. So what if Let's Golf! isn't Sense 3.6 compatible? (assuming that's what our build's base will be)
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This here cracker ain't holding his breath.
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Waiting for an official ICS (and JB) upgrade is even more necessary in India. We are all using grey imports. Furthermore, for AlphaRevX or Revolutionary based roots (as most of us have), going back to Froyo and unrooting before doing a bootloader unlock, and then climbing back up to the CMs is not at all attractive.
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The release dates we've been hearing for the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus have been all over the map. The latest rumors had it pegged for December 8th, and that still may be true for official Big Red shops, but now a source inside Best Buy is telling us the big box electronics retailer won't have them in stock until the 11th. The image above, supposedly taken from a Best Buy inventory system, lists the SCH-i515 as hitting the stock room on December 11th of 2011. What it doesn't list, however, is a street date. The phones could go on sale that day, or the next or a week later -- it's really all just guesswork without an official announcement. While the photos certainly seem legit, there are a few discrepancies that give us pause. Particularly, the lighter weight and thinner profile than what is listed on the Google specs page -- 9.34mm versus 9.47mm and 140g instead of 150. But, we're not writing this off as a fake just yet.
Source: Engadget
Source 2: c|Net
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Verizon Galaxy Nexus landing in Best Buy on December 11th?
The release dates we've been hearing for the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus have been all over the map. The latest rumors had it pegged for December 8th, and that still may be true for official Big Red shops, but now a source inside Best Buy is telling us the big box electronics retailer won't have them in stock until the 11th. The image above, supposedly taken from a Best Buy inventory system, lists the SCH-i515 as hitting the stock room on December 11th of 2011. What it doesn't list, however, is a street date. The phones could go on sale that day, or the next or a week later -- it's really all just guesswork without an official announcement. While the photos certainly seem legit, there are a few discrepancies that give us pause. Particularly, the lighter weight and thinner profile than what is listed on the Google specs page -- 9.34mm versus 9.47mm and 140g instead of 150. But, we're not writing this off as a fake just yet.
Source: Engadget
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You think this is legit? All I know is that I'm tired of waiting. Seeing rumored dates come and go is discouraging. I was definitely hoping for early to mid November release.
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You think this is legit? All I know is that I'm tired of waiting. Seeing rumored dates come and go is discouraging. I was definitely hoping for early to mid November release.
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Honestly, I don't know what to make of it all. I can only hope that VZW is urging Samsung to make some changes for the better. For instance, just like the US version will have LTE, a bigger battery, and a different color, maybe we're getting a revamped version altogether. Super AMOLED+ HD screen with full RGB? SD Card? TI OMAP 4470 w/PowerVR SGX 544? This is all very wishful thinking . Ha ha!
VZW is so hush hush about everything. I'd just like to have something concrete to go on.
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Honestly, I don't know what to make of it all. I can only hope that VZW is urging Samsung to make some changes for the better. For instance, just like the US version will have LTE, a bigger battery, and a different color, maybe we're getting a revamped version altogether. Super AMOLED+ HD screen with full RGB? SD Card? TI OMAP 4470 w/PowerVR SGX 544? This is all very wishful thinking . Ha ha!
VZW is so hush hush about everything. I'd just like to have something concrete to go on.
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Its most likely software improvements. A story on engadget showed a Verizon nexus with 4.1 on it!
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Well it is a sign that December is going to be the month for the release..Unfortunately for everyone eager to get their hands on the Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Samsung Galaxy Nexus, we’ve heard of no official release date. And until we do, rumors will have to suffice.
MichaelAmrs said:
Well it is a sign that December is going to be the month for the release..Unfortunately for everyone eager to get their hands on the Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Samsung Galaxy Nexus, we’ve heard of no official release date. And until we do, rumors will have to suffice.
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Regardless of the date I'm willing to wait. I'm not copping out and switching phones due to impatience. I want it bad enough.
The Verizon employee today at the store (when asked about the GN) simply replied "I dunno"
A clueless Verizon employee? No, I'm shocked! Looks like the new target date is the 15th btw. So ridiculous though, the phones are literally just sitting in boxes at Verizon stores ready to go...
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I got to play around with one today in a store, and they are awesome! It wasn't activated, per se, only on wifi. It's HUGE! Very, very fast, camera is nice, and it will soon be in my posession!
I played witj the rezound last night and was not that impressed. Music was nice, but the sense 3. 5 was laggy like on my dinc. I can upgrade the 29th and actually thinking of a slightly older cheaper phone that has good development established. No way will i drop $300 on a phone, its ridiculous.
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I played witj the rezound last night and was not that impressed. Music was nice, but the sense 3. 5 was laggy like on my dinc. I can upgrade the 29th and actually thinking of a slightly older cheaper phone that has good development established. No way will i drop $300 on a phone, its ridiculous.
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That's unacceptable for a phone with that good of hardware. I think the nexus will have great development for it but its 300 too. Inc2 or tbolt for you maybe?
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There are so many bloatware apps loaded on the Rezound, it's not even funny. My RAM would actually get down to as low as sub 100MB at times. That would cause the phone to become sluggish. After killing everything off, it was as fast as all get up. Once the bloat slowly started to repopulate, the cycle repeated. I can only imagine how terrible the display model would perform after being hammered throughout the day.
The major problem for me was that the preloaded apps on the Rezound were very intrusive, and wouldn't play nice. Either I could deal with a less than stellar amount of RAM (out of 1GB), or try to free some up and enjoy the phone. I ended up spending so much time killing unwanted background apps, only to have them start back up. Of course, that turned into a battery drainer. I truly understand now why 3rd party task managers are pretty much useless nowadays.
I just couldn't deal with it anymore. The temp root wasn't ideal, mostly hit or miss (no fault of the dev). If it worked, in the middle of getting the system set up just the way I like it, temp root would just stop working. Reboot, try again. Not pleasant. So, I said forget it and returned it. However, once the Rezound gets s-off & permanent root, I'm sure it'll live up to its name. Until then...
Thanks Verizon! You took an otherwise awesome device and ruined the experience. You should be ashamed, but you're not. Instead, you're trying your very best to ruin a pure Google phone experience as well. You've already forced BackUpManager & My Verizon apps onto the GNex, one of which consumers are very capable of downloading if they want it. To top it all off, you've delayed the release date into dangerous territory. After a certain point, lots of people are going to just let it go.
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So I've sort of become the go-to android guy in my place of work, it started when I helped a colleague flash ICS on his GS2. Then other people heard about it and started coming to me for apps, ROMs, advice, etc.. So far I've upgraded 2 GS2s to ICS, a Galaxy Note, rooted a few phones and configured most the exchange clients. It's not my job by any means (even though I work in IT) but I'm always happy to lend a hand and help grow the community I've even turned a few people away from the dark side *cough*Apple*cough* and convinced them to go with Android.
So are you the android guy in your office/school/uni?
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So I've sort of become the go-to android guy in my place of work, it started when I helped a colleague flash ICS on his GS2. Then other people heard about it and started coming to me for apps, ROMs, advice, etc.. So far I've upgraded 2 GS2s to ICS, a Galaxy Note, rooted a few phones and configured most the exchange clients. It's not my job by any means (even though I work in IT) but I'm always happy to lend a hand and help grow the community I've even turned a few people away from the dark side *cough*Apple*cough* and convinced them to go with Android.
So are you the android guy in your office/school/uni?
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haha same here.
upgraded list of phones i have rooted, unlokced , changed roms for friends.
4 galaxy nexus
3 Galaxy S
2 Galaxy S2
1 motorola droid 3
1 Samsung galaxy Ace
4 Xepria Neo
3 Xperia mini's
2 huawei ideos x6
and few more phones i have now lost track off lol.
gabster21 said:
So I've sort of become the go-to android guy in my place of work, it started when I helped a colleague flash ICS on his GS2. Then other people heard about it and started coming to me for apps, ROMs, advice, etc.. So far I've upgraded 2 GS2s to ICS, a Galaxy Note, rooted a few phones and configured most the exchange clients. It's not my job by any means (even though I work in IT) but I'm always happy to lend a hand and help grow the community I've even turned a few people away from the dark side *cough*Apple*cough* and convinced them to go with Android.
So are you the android guy in your office/school/uni?
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I can very much relate to this.
Forgot to add being the android guy at home as well.. Flashed CM7.1 a while back on my gf's SGS, now upgraded to CM9. Upgraded my dad's SGS to stock 2.3.6 (don't want him harassing me with nightly bugs)
I don't usually do stuff on peoples phones because I've found that as soon as I do it I automatically become their tech support for the remainder of the time they have the phone and someone to blame if it starts acting up.
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I don't usually do stuff on peoples phones because I've found that as soon as I do it I automatically become their tech support for the remainder of the time they have the phone and someone to blame if it starts acting up.
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true, better to tell them where they can learn how to do it them selfes. thats why they got a android anyways
half my co workers run a custom rom and managed it them self, the others have an iphone:what:
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not at work, but at university i am
There are a lot of Android enthusiasts where I work. At least 4 co-workers have the Galaxy Nexus and many others have all kinds of devices.
Our admins all have company provided iPhone 4S's though... lol
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I've been the only Android guy at my office for a while. Lots of the "other" types around here. I can't get them to convert either. Maybe one day they will open up
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I don't usually do stuff on peoples phones because I've found that as soon as I do it I automatically become their tech support for the remainder of the time they have the phone and someone to blame if it starts acting up.
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This. People praise you when they can use wireless tether and other fun things, but as soon as anything goes wrong you get the blame. And you're stuck on the hook for tech support since they never bothered to learn it in the first place.
I still help friends out on occasion, but always on their computer and they always do the work. I just sit there and hold their hand. That way they'll already have the tools (adb, fastboot, ODIN, etc) and at least will have been through the procedure once so they have a loose idea of what's going on. And I avoid "one-click" and "toolkit" methods at all costs. Sure, they usually work, but you don't learn anything from it.
tkuligowski said:
I don't usually do stuff on peoples phones because I've found that as soon as I do it I automatically become their tech support for the remainder of the time they have the phone and someone to blame if it starts acting up.
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Same here, I'm choosy on who I root.
I go to highschool and Im known as the Android Nazi. Ill help people with phones and give then advice on which phones to buy or not buy.
When I root peoples phones and stuff Ill make them do it. I tell them exactly what to do so if something gets screwed up then I can be all like "You did it not me". Although its been smooth sailing.
They all know I hate apple with the burning passion of 1000 suns. Needless to say they all stay away from me.
lol.. yup.. the cio use to come to me for android assistance
Same here
i'm always help people with there phone in Highschool & twiter, people love me & i'm being famous in the School, They Call me mr.samsung "BTW i h8 samsung now lol" i switch to HTC because samsung never respect us in Middle East.
i like to help people & make their Phones better Such as Rooting, installing Roms & Theme...etc
Also i help them with their Bad iDevices Lol
When you help the people, they will love you & you will make them feel happy
the only office I use is my sh!tter
so yes
Same but at uni and with friends etc. They always ask me if they upgrade there phone and stuff. Fixed a few iphones as well.
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I'm not that deep into it. I am the go to guy just for how Android works, I'm not sexist, this is just my personal experience, but I work with 90% women and the women on my team always come to me, just to figure out how to use their phone, forget rooting them, they just can't figure out how to silence the damn thing.
hahaha ! nice post! so i'm the "tech support" in my office too
1 restored a mediacom tablet bricked!
2 used odin for a galaxy s with google server connection problem (new rom solve all)
3 sold my old galaxy S to a collegue and setup up the phone for him (cyanogen :-D )
4 jailbreak of 1 iphone, 1 ipad, 1 ipod
5 update 2 nokia E51 / E5 to new firmware
and more
gabster21 said:
So I've sort of become the go-to android guy in my place of work, it started when I helped a colleague flash ICS on his GS2. Then other people heard about it and started coming to me for apps, ROMs, advice, etc.. So far I've upgraded 2 GS2s to ICS, a Galaxy Note, rooted a few phones and configured most the exchange clients. It's not my job by any means (even though I work in IT) but I'm always happy to lend a hand and help grow the community I've even turned a few people away from the dark side *cough*Apple*cough* and convinced them to go with Android.
So are you the android guy in your office/school/uni?
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Yep! and I constantly get into debates with Sheeple about the iPhones
Lol. It IS my job. So yeah.
I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.
I don't see why not, if you wait long enough you might as well wait for the S4. It will be at least 6-7 months before you see another version of this phone if not longer.
There is an enterprise version coming in July with no hardware changes.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-safe-us-95699/
I don't think they would release another version, otherwise if you wait till october Iam sure the new Nexus will be out.
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I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.
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New phones come out weekly seems like, so yes there will always something new coming ... but as fast as gs2 and skyrocket I doubt it ... Samsung seems to be pushing this phone alot harder than those others if u think about it, releasing all us models on basically the same day, not changing the look from international version, a red one coming to at&t .... I think next new thing will be another Google built phone with jelly bean on it within 3 months ...and new iPhone within same time frame .. but Samsung going to collect some serious money on this one before release new one
my opinion...
Of course new phones come out every few weeks and the new nexus should be out in the fourth quarter, will it come to AT&T would be the next question. But to stay on topic, I wanted to know if only a month would be between the release, but they have done a much better job releasing it this time, not the 6 month difference like the S2. So it seems that Samsung will keep this as the highest-end for awhile.
So at least it will be a little more than a month before the phone is outdated.
Highly doubt that att will carry the new nexus at its launch.
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The only reason the skyrocket was released was because of the new LTE network, they needed more phones to support it, so no, I doubt there is going to be a skyrocket S3.
The Note 2 may be the next big Samsung phone on AT&T.
I never considered a skyrocket a upgrade other than the fact it was lte. I liked my s2 more than my rocket. I'm in love wit my s3 tho
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There wont be an updated version of this phone.
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This is the first smartphone to do what crApple did with the iPhone...
Release the same version, same design, same name, on all carriers.
And...this is the first time it has happened on all 4 carriers at relatively the same time (thanks Verizon).
This is a historic moment for Android and Samsung - and the beginning of a new chapter for both companies.
[WayOffTopicRant]Dare I say another step towards the end of Apple (I hate that company!). I know that is a LONG way off, but I want so badly to see them go. Such a bad company in general, so anti-American, and a hipocritical message. I would swear that Steve Jobs made a deal with the devil if I believed in that sort of thing.[/WayOffTopicRant]
But does everyone think samsung will continue to make the flagship android phone now that google owns Motorola Mobility? Why acquire a fair sized mobile phone maker and not use it. Unless of course the move was just one more step in the no way beneficial to the end user patent war between google and apple.
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I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.
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The Skyrocket wasn't really an updated version. It was just another version of it with LTE. It had a larger screen (not always a good thing) and a worse processor.
So in other words....no. This phone is running on AT&T's LTE network, and LTE was why they released the Skyrocket.
I think you hit the nail on the head in thinking that it was for patents. Especially since a judge just dismissed some of Apples claims over Motorola. Google will now have a platform to work on phone OS and HW now.
Personally, I feel Motorola always made the ugliest of the phones, but if the flagship for them someday becomes the Nexus manufacturer and everyone else does their own things like Galaxy S series and HTC One series it will be good.
We shall see, but from what it looks like to me is Android is here to stay, Samsung and others will continue to support it as long as we buy it, and Moto will be Google's chance to bring out stock only phones in the future.
Skyrocket was announced a week after I got my sgs2. I opted to stay with it. Skyrocket was one of the first lte phones. There is nothing that can be added to the sgs3 that it doesn't already have. Except maybe the 32gig version.
Note 2 will be out in October.
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[WayOffTopicRant]Dare I say another step towards the end of Apple (I hate that company!). I know that is a LONG way off, but I want so badly to see them go. Such a bad company in general, so anti-American, and a hipocritical message. I would swear that Steve Jobs made a deal with the devil if I believed in that sort of thing.[/WayOffTopicRant]
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There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.
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There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.
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IPhones are made in China.
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There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.
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Apple makes products in China. Apple the company is rooted in America but it has given nothing back to the US. No charitable donations, no give back programs, no student help, etc.
Samsung Telecommunications of America is a US based company too. They have numerous charities they give to. Sponsor many US based programs and like Microsoft give back a huge portion to the US citizens in donations.
If you want to root for the US buy Samsung. I know it sounds funny but Samsung Electronics of America is a US company. STA is a US company. Only the parent company is Korean.
I will always support the US company that gives back when it can. I am all for making a profit, but what a company does with that profit is what truly matters. Apple swallows it, Samsung gives it back.
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I just called AT&T and gave them hell about the lack of progress on the Marshmallow update. Asked how much it would cost to close my account. Miraculously; I was forwarded to a tech support person with an IQ just North of a bedroom slipper. She forced the update to my phone. I'm past the download and my apps are optimizing. Incredible! Before I post, I'm going to wait to be sure, but it looks like I'm getting the Big M! 8 more apps to go! 1 more. Holding breath. BS! Don't know what it actually did, but still on 5.11. Time for the big guns. Stay tuned.
Just north of a bedroom slipper. Thats hilarious.
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Big News! AT&T Are Liars!
I called back and spoke to another Golgi apparatus who denied that they ever said that. My, how his toned changed when I started playing back the conversation from Total Recall. He proceeded to tell me that I could pay an ETF of $350.00. I told him that based on the recorded lies that they told me; I DARED them to try to collect. Never mind - just more AT&T BS. {Sigh!}
Sorry. "Just North of a bedroom slipper" and "Golgi apparatus" were complements for these oxygen thieves. Maggots is placing them in high regard. AT&T customer since 1985, and this is how I'm treated? I'm dropping them like a used rubber. Don't have any better "smoking gun" solutions since I travel internationally a good bit; but, I'll cut off my nose to spite AT&T at this point. (Extremely foul language omitted)
Sometimes I think to my self, how fun would of been if this device would of been root able? Big-time developers would be on this specific forum. Idk but lately I've been complementing on wether to give att another chance or split to tmobile
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Sorry that happened, it's the worst when you get your hopes up only to have them dashed.
Highly unlikely that att would push out an update to a single user, some of us have been trying to get beta releases for years. Unfortunately, we just have to wait.
So help me; she SWORE that they were already rolling it out (another lie), but I wasn't in the queue yet, and I'd be receiving it soon. She was such a polished liar that it takes my breath away. Then, she gave me the schmoozing touch by saying "Well, you're such a valued customer that I'm going to go ahead and push it to your phone." Eloquent liar. She said "Look at the top of your screen and tell me what you see?" I saw the diagonal arrows that only mean one thing. I was ecstatic! I told her: " I can't believe you were able to do it that fast!" She poured it on even thicker by saying "Now, wait with me for a little bit to make sure it goes through." Sucker!!! I waited until it had gotten to the 100% point and was prompted by the phone to end my call to finish the update. I thanked her profusely, and hung up.
I'm sure they were slapping their knees after I got off the phone with them. The phone went through the expected gyrations with the progress bar, optimizing apps, rebooting, etc. When it finished recycling; there was the all too familiar screen again. My heart was beating like a rabbits. I went to the phone info, and sure enough... Still Lollipop! SUCKER! I felt like Curly from The Three Stooges after Moe just double poked him in the eyes.
Now; I'm pissed. But, being the weekend, I realize that the only person to answer their phone is Hajji over in India, so that's a waste of time. So; my choices are: Stay with AT&T and continue to have nearly seamless international roaming, or cut my throat and go with Verizon - just to match my domestic coverage - (Same high price, same obstinance, but little to no international coverage, same hardware restrictions), or go with a lone wolf like T-Mobile - or worse - Sprint.
Deflated.
stay with At&t but never buy phones from them. nexus is the way to go my friend.
OP, I honestly cannot tell if you are for real.
Oh; trust me; I'm real. And, everything - virtually everything happened exactly the way I said it. It would be hard to make that one up.
As for the Nexus; I've considered that. Perhaps my timing's been bad, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the Nexus phones that I've seen. Especially without Mini-SD cards. It seems like there's always some stranglehold. I've been a Sammy fan for about 4 years now. The previous one was the Note 3 that I purchased outright from AT&T. Root eventually made it's way to it, but I jumped when the Note 5 came out without the SD card slot, and no removable battery. I panicked and snatched up the Note 4. Big mistake.
I wish there was a way to purchase an unlocked, unbranded Samsung Note that would work seamlessly on AT&T, allow updates without the bloat, and let me do what I wanted to do with what I bought. It defies logic.
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Oh; trust me; I'm real. And, everything - virtually everything happened exactly the way I said it. It would be hard to make that one up.
As for the Nexus; I've considered that. Perhaps my timing's been bad, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the Nexus phones that I've seen. Especially without Mini-SD cards. It seems like there's always some stranglehold. I've been a Sammy fan for about 4 years now. The previous one was the Note 3 that I purchased outright from AT&T. Root eventually made it's way to it, but I jumped when the Note 5 came out without the SD card slot, and no removable battery. I panicked and snatched up the Note 4. Big mistake.
I wish there was a way to purchase an unlocked, unbranded Samsung Note that would work seamlessly on AT&T, allow updates without the bloat, and let me do what I wanted to do with what I bought. It defies logic.
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Only optio. U have for an unbranded one os international version
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Only optio. U have for an unbranded one os international version
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Likely has no warranty I the states, and difficult to get, many are sold as 910f but are 910a with a system mod applied via odin to make it look like an 910f...
OK, I'll bite. You really didn't know that the ATT associates don't know when any update will occur? You really wasted all this time and energy and anger over this? That is why I smell a troll; everyone knows this, and it has been reiterated a thousand times. The fact is they simply do not know.
Think what you want. I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else. I'm venting my frustration and experience.
Now; if she'd told me that the update would hit at a certain time; I'd have taken it with a grain of salt. But, the way she schmoozed me; I bought hook, line, and sinker. Not to mention all of the speculation on this board that the update was immanent; I thought I'd hit the goldmine. That's what pisses me off. I'll be more than happy to post the recording (~10MB) of the 47 minute conversation - if you have the time to waste listening to it.
And, no; I'm not going to roll the dice on an international - or any other illegitimate phone - in the hopes that I can get what I paid for. That's just another frustration. It would be like buying a fancy Dell computer with a 3TB HD, but they installed 1.5TB of bloatware on the drive and if you took it off; your computer would crash.
OK, I'm done.
I have been an AT&T customer since 96. My first smartphone was the Sony x10a, loved it. Then I saw an ad in a magazine for the ion lt28at. I knew 6 months before the 6 AT&T employees(1 per month) that AT&T was getting it. I "chat" with AT&T about every 2 weeks to see if there's any info when updates are supposed to be released. Occasionally one will act like they have the inside scoop, usually, like with the ion, they're as clueless as we are. I fallen victim to false hope, I'm sure many of us have. Yes, AT&T sucks when it comes to updates and bloat, but I will tell you this, every single time I've had an issue they've done everything they can to make me happy. To me that goes a long way towards keeping my brand loyalty. AT&T is a pretty solid company and would have to do something much worse than delaying updates to lose my business.
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yes they can push updates to individual devices, because i called as asked to have that done with the latest security patch, and the person asked me for my IMEI and told me it would take a couple of hours, sure enough within that time I had the notification for the security update.
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stay with At&t but never buy phones from them. nexus is the way to go my friend.
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I agree. I have a contract that was supposed to allow me to upgrade phones every two years. I went in and was told that they don't do upgrades anymore even if it is in your contract. Which means I have to pay that price on my bill and not get the benefit of it. They very eagerly offered to take that off my bill but it would kill my unlimited data. Why in the hell would I buy a phone from them if I can get one that is not locked down for the same price?
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Looks like another security update. I guess this means MM is a ways off.
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It's a dead topic in my opinion. We all know that AT&T's customer service is horrible and will tell you anything. What I found so insulting was the level of deceit that they went to convince me that I was going to get the update. Shouldn't be surprised. That's why I record theirs and a few other companies phone calls to confront them when they don't live up to what was promised. I still find it incredible!
So; I'm stuck with AT&T, or another carrier that's as bad or worse. It's a shame. I used to be able to count on AT&T as fulfilling their promises. My experience over the past couple of years is that you roll the dice, and HOPE you get what was promised. I suppose that's the only option. Their management could care less.
I'm done with this topic. Feel free to rant - which was my purpose - it seems to have no effect on them. They know your options are limited.
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It's a dead topic in my opinion. We all know that AT&T's customer service is horrible and will tell you anything. What I found so insulting was the level of deceit that they went to convince me that I was going to get the update. Shouldn't be surprised. That's why I record theirs and a few other companies phone calls to confront them when they don't live up to what was promised. I still find it incredible!
So; I'm stuck with AT&T, or another carrier that's as bad or worse. It's a shame. I used to be able to count on AT&T as fulfilling their promises. My experience over the past couple of years is that you roll the dice, and HOPE you get what was promised. I suppose that's the only option. Their management could care less.
I'm done with this topic. Feel free to rant - which was my purpose - it seems to have no effect on them. They know your options are limited.
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Why wont you go buy a T-mobile phone and unlock the sim for use on at&t. Get your root, custom roms, updates.... i have a t-mobile Samsung s5 also Note 4 and finally Note Edge, all rooted and custom roms. All working on AT&T straight talk network. I can update to custom MM right now if i wished.
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well according to 3uk it's in testing and will be several weeks, had it with a phone with a beta os and razer's hollow promises of swift updates picking up an s9+ next month this can get given to nephew, sorely disappointed I bought on the strength of my desktop peripherals and blade pro this phone falls well short of razer's standards in build quality and software support, 8know it's there first phone but first impressions count you can't put out a half rough product in today's market it's too competitive.
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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.
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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.
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Yes and not happy about it either
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Yes and not happy about it either View attachment 4400907
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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.
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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.
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I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.
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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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All of them do it. Like my brother has gone through 4 s8 and 2 s8+ from Samsung due to them not working properly. Every oem has the same issues. Buying the first device from a new oem is expected to have issues.
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.
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I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.
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it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three
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If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three
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razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone
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Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone
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ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Touché.
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razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.
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I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.
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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.
If we in three don't receive these 2 missing updates in one shot then I'm going to rebuy the phone again directly from razer and sell this three phone.
It certainly is evident why there was so much cheaper. Wish I'd been able to wait the 2 week shipping time from razer themselves - to me in the UK rather then going for the next day delivery from three. Absolute [email protected]@rd$!
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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.
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It is well known yeah but when the CEO says that we won't have to wait for Three youd think that answer would be true but it made me question does he actually know what's going on in his own software team?
I mean even factory images haven't been released yet so people can attempt to make their unit a razer one.
Also for what it's worth for people my RMA unit was another Three branded one so Razer do in fact have Three units for replacement.
Bit upset on the speed of these updates i still blame three and wish i could re image my phone to Razers Stock Image rather than Three's image.
What would be different if the build would be changed whats so special about Three's version as i can only assume Three related features like wifi calling and that