An update on Windows Phone 7.8 - Windows Phone 7 General

Hi all,
for your information, today Microsoft brought some news for the Windows Phone 7.8 Update:
Posted on: Nov 28, 2012 by Terry Myerson
It’s been an exciting month since we officially launched Windows Phone 8. Devices are in stores, reviews are out, and ads are appearing on TV. Feedback so far has been great, and we’re really enjoying seeing how much our customers love the new Start screen. It’s especially fun to see people posting screenshots of their Start screens all over Facebook, Twitter, and sites like http://mytil.es and http://whatsonyourstartscreen.com. As you’ll quickly notice, each is as unique as its owner; the new Start screen is one of the easiest ways to make the phone reflect your style, your passions, and your personality.
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Reviewers agree:
“It’s not a stretch to say that Windows Phone 8 has the best home screen — the perfect combination of flexibility, design, and simplicity — of any major platform right now.” –The Verge
“Someone who glanced over my shoulder and looked at the user interface of Windows Phone 8 said, ‘That's a really pretty phone.’ He was right.” –Wall Street Journal
“The live tiles and the distinctive user interface remain Microsoft's biggest selling points for Windows Phone.” –Associated Press
But it’s not just Windows Phone 8 users that get to enjoy the new Start screen. As previously announced, with Windows Phone 7.8 we’re also bringing the feature to existing Windows Phone 7.5 devices. During the development process, I used builds of 7.8 on my Lumia 900 and it felt like a completely new phone: resizable Live Tiles totally change the way I do things, providing faster access to more of my favorite people, photos, and apps.
Windows Phone 7.8 also includes some other cool stuff. It doubles the number of theme and accent colors—to 20—so you can make your phone even more personal. There are also new lock screen features: the option to automatically display the Bing Picture of the Day plus the ‘A1B2C3’ PIN/password challenge to prevent accidental device wipes on phones connected to Exchange accounts.
And there are new apps coming for Windows Phone 7.5 and 7.8 customers. The hugely popular Words with Friends and Draw Something are already available, while Angry Birds Space and Angry Birds Star Wars are on the way.
New models running Windows Phone 7.8 are beginning to launch in many countries around the world, strengthening the ecosystem by bringing more Windows Phones to more people. These devices will typically be sold at a range of lower price points, meaning there will now be Windows Phones for everyone’s budget and need. This is incredibly important for broadening the reach of Windows Phone across the globe and ensuring we have the right product for every market.
Speaking of broader reach, Windows Phone 7.8 also expands the number of markets where customers can buy apps and use the Xbox service. Testing of this rollout is ongoing, but we’ve already managed to increase our global service coverage by over 30%, to 95 countries—a number that should continue to rise.
We know you’re eager to get the Windows Phone 7.8 update, and we want you to know that we’re working closely with our hardware and carrier partners to get it tested, approved, and rolled out to as many devices as possible in early 2013. As we work to quickly get this in the hands of our loyal users, we’re also striving to deliver a high-quality release and ensure a smooth transition for our widely expanded services.
Thank you for your support of Windows Phone.
-Terry
Corporate Vice President, Windows Phone
Source:
http://blogs.windows.com/windows_ph...012/11/28/an-update-on-windows-phone-7-8.aspx

So, now they aren't sure that every current WP 7.x phone will get an update? I'm not upset that it's comming in early 2013. Now I think my Omnia 7 won't get it at all.
I'm going to flash a custom rom.

I think it depends on OEM and carrier for those who did not get international versions.
Anyway, this is great news. More features is exactly what I hoped for.

you can always push the update manually using wpupdate, it's very simple to do it also.

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New Rhodium (Not Touch Pro 2)

So I noticed this article, basically, it comes with windows mobile 7 and supports both EVDO and HSPDA, it supposedly has a different chipset to. It's obviously going to cost more to. Can anyone tell me if this is worth waiting for?
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3664
Windows Mobile 7 isn't developed yet. Microsoft just finished 6.5.
So I think it will take some time untils Microsoft will realease WM 7....
yea it says not at least until quarter 3 the phone will be released
The slides were leaked in march, but there's no indication of when they were MADE. It's entirely possible that it is the Touch Pro2 we know and love, but that things have changed since the slides were made and/or the early product slides contained some errors (as was the case with some ATT slides on the HTC fortress).
I wouldn't consider waiting for it until I knew for sure that it existed. With that said, I assume Windows 7 is the selling point for you. Personally, I never like getting an OS brand new. Too many growing pains. I let other people adopt it first, iron out all the wrinkles, and then 12 months later, once they're done paying extra for the privilege of beta testing I get the finished stable product for less.
Everybody's different, and especially if there's a specific feature in a new OS someone can't live with out, it might be worth the hassle of early adoption. But I would encourage people to not automatically assume the newest version will be the best for their needs.
Where do you get the Idea, it's not the rhodium? I don't see much of a diffrence. I've seen this pics before and at that moment they did represent the touch pro 2.
It's probably a typo.
Probably should read 6.x, possibly .x as it'll be either 6.1 or 6.5
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Where do you get the Idea, it's not the rhodium? I don't see much of a diffrence.
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3.4" screen, winmo 7. Chipset looks like "7600", although it is scrunched a bit. @Phil, I don't think we're looking at typos so much as early/sketchy drawing board specs. If this sheet were made last year before OS delays, windows mobile 7 might have seemed doable.
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3.4" screen, winmo 7. Chipset looks like "7600", although it is scrunched a bit. @Phil, I don't think we're looking at typos so much as early/sketchy drawing board specs. If this sheet were made last year before OS delays, windows mobile 7 might have seemed doable.
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I think your probably right actually, it's probably an old spec sheet.
Considering HTC are probably working internally on devices that they plan to release in the next few years, have them completed at least several months before release (time to test/finalise specs/release to manufacturing) and probably announce them to networks way before we find out about them so there is time to negotiate sales contracts etc chances are that's all this is.
That's the Sprint version of the Touch Pro 2. It's based off of the Rhodium nomenclature but is built differently. Also Windows Mobile 7 has been taken off in favor of 6.1 upgradeable to 6.5. The device is EVDO Rev A and HSDPA for 2100 and 900 bands only which means only usable in Europe and Asia. As far as I know, it's still sporting a 3.6" WVGA screen since the size is almost the same as the current GSM Touch Pro 2 except slightly thicker. This is actually pretty old news. HTC has a separate code name for this one except I have to take a look at the presentation I have somewhere in my files.
the device does exist, here are the device infomation taken from my device:
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I think this is the touch pro 2, just an old document that is now outdated, I doubt that they would make two phones with the same code name, and also the phone in the picture looks like the touch pro 2 but has a smaller screen and less ram so in some ways it seems worse than the touch pro 2, so if ti is a real phone i would say no

Engadget will have a live demo of a WP7S device on Feb 27th!

Hey guys, this is just in..
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/23/the-engadget-show-returns-this-saturday-feb-27th-now-with-l/
They will be streaming the action live on stage.
Dump the ROM please
Anyone know what time in UK?
Hope they will go through more deeply in the UI, settings, configurations ...
5 pm New York would be 10 pm in the UK, I think.
thats in 2 days!
cant wait
I wouldn't hold my breath, that's going to be more of the same stuff. The OS isn't ready, has no dialer and other important parts; they won't be able to clarify whether third-party apps will be able to work in background as there are no third-party apps for WP7. If they see lags in the interface that won't mean anything. If they don't it won't mean anything either.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, that's going to be more of the same stuff. The OS isn't ready, has no dialer and other important parts; they won't be able to clarify whether third-party apps will be able to work in background as there are no third-party apps for WP7. If they see lags in the interface that won't mean anything. If they don't it won't mean anything either.
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There is a dialer. Just not done.
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And who's to say that the build shown at MWC wasn't an old build? They kept insisting that it was an "early" build. Most people probably just assumed that "early" was still "recent". But what if by "early" they meant "from a few months ago"? If nothing else it was somewhat old because that was their latest "stable" build while their devs certainly have unstable builds being worked on still. No way they risk a huge event like that with untested software. And they don't want to show their whole hand so far out. They just wanted to get the base UI and principles out there to get the hype started. We'll prolly se a more feature complete build at MIX. Maybe even a full emulator
It's not like Engadget is going to be borrowing the device with no MS person around. I wouldn't be surprised if a MS person was the only one using the device like at MWC. Don't expect Engadget to find anything out by playing with it. If there is any new info learned, it will be from a MS person telling them the info while showing off the OS. Not impossible but not likely either.
Engadget's latest teaser for the event sheds some more light...
Microsoft will also be on hand to demo Windows Phone 7 Series and the company's own Aaron Woodman will be sharing stories about the major changes Redmond has made to the Windows mobile OS.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/the-engadget-show-tapes-tomorrow-snow-or-shine-plus-livestr/
so yea, doesn't sound like the engadget folks will be getting any actual hands-on time with it. For now you either have to work for Microsoft or be the 6yr old child of a Microsoft employee.
They are demonstrating an LG prototype (see: WP7 release phone) on this show live now:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/27/the-engadget-show-live-with-avner-ronen-wp7s-demo-and-more/
So, since I missed it, was there anything interesting on the show?
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So, since I missed it, was there anything interesting on the show?
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No, engadget earning a lot of money on transmitting a WP7S ad.
vangrieg said:
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No not much at all.
The guy at MS was very vague (except for the "hint" that we should attend Mix2010) and didn't reveal any new information.
The biggest thing was the first WP7 phone, the LG whatever. It had a keyboard, but they neglected to try out WP7 in landscape.
They said not to rule out Linux and Mac support for WP7. It is currently not supported, but is an "internal debate".
Also noted is that the IE is an early build, and I wouldn't be surprised if the whole OS is still an early build.
Supposedly MS has been talking with Adobe for awhile and Flash would be an important thing to have in the browser (something of that sort) and MS wants their browser to be competitive, yada yada.

Nokia will be able to customize 'everything' in Windows Phone 7

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Stephen Elop, in his financial and strategy briefing continuing Nokia's marathon Capital Markets Day, just posed an interesting rhetorical question: will Nokia be able to "customize everything" on Windows Phone 7 in order to differentiate itself? "Yes!" was Elop's ebullient proclamation, though he quickly pulled it back to say that Nokia likely won't make extensive use of this freedom to tailor Microsoft's OS. Instead, the company will be cautious and seek to maintain compatibility rather than pushing the boat out too far in tweaking the underlying software. That's a major shift for Microsoft, who forbade HTC from skinning Windows Phone 7 with Sense, something the Taiwanese company would surely have loved to do, and limited it to the introduction of a self-contained Hub. Now Nokia's saying it -- perhaps exclusively -- has been given the liberty to play around inside WP7 to its heart's content. We'll see how important that turns out to be whenever Nokia delivers its first device bearing its new smartphone OS. An insider tip tells us the current plan is to introduce such a handset by the end of 2011, potentially based on current hardware. Who's ready for Xbox Live on a future version of the N8?
Source: Endgadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-will-be-able-to-customize-everything-in-windows-phone-7/
Does this mean tht v can have hope of getting in deeper thru the roots of WP7, as nokia will surely hav a foot in, all v hav to do is follow them in...right? bt the only thing is tht the "microkia's" are still a lil far off. by then v probably wil already be down inside...eh...
Hope they won't change much。。。
Nokia Maps, Nokia Navigation etc. Those would be the most important things... And a look like this!
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Nokia Maps, Nokia Navigation etc. Those would be the most important things... And a look like this!
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A few more edges would be fine...I don't like this rounded design.
But, if these will have free Ovi Maps Navigation and those ultra clear black AMOLED-screen, I'd definitely go for them!
Hopefully they don't change a whole lot other than maybe apps. We've seen how multiple UIs has affected the fragmentation and performance of Android. If it's properly executed, and we have the option to use the standard Metro UI, I'm up for it, and as long as it doesn't hog the CPU performance any different than current devices, I'm up for possibly purchasing it. The reason why WP7, at least to me, is so appealing is because it runs so fluid and has a "togetherness" feel to it. All of the apps, the menus, etc all have the same design to them while not detracting from variety of apps.
madmax85812 said:
Stephen Elop, in his financial and strategy briefing continuing Nokia's marathon Capital Markets Day, just posed an interesting rhetorical question: will Nokia be able to "customize everything" on Windows Phone 7 in order to differentiate itself? "Yes!" was Elop's ebullient proclamation, though he quickly pulled it back to say that Nokia likely won't make extensive use of this freedom to tailor Microsoft's OS. Instead, the company will be cautious and seek to maintain compatibility rather than pushing the boat out too far in tweaking the underlying software. That's a major shift for Microsoft, who forbade HTC from skinning Windows Phone 7 with Sense, something the Taiwanese company would surely have loved to do, and limited it to the introduction of a self-contained Hub. Now Nokia's saying it -- perhaps exclusively -- has been given the liberty to play around inside WP7 to its heart's content. We'll see how important that turns out to be whenever Nokia delivers its first device bearing its new smartphone OS. An insider tip tells us the current plan is to introduce such a handset by the end of 2011, potentially based on current hardware. Who's ready for Xbox Live on a future version of the N8?
Source: Endgadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-will-be-able-to-customize-everything-in-windows-phone-7/
Does this mean tht v can have hope of getting in deeper thru the roots of WP7, as nokia will surely hav a foot in, all v hav to do is follow them in...right? bt the only thing is tht the "microkia's" are still a lil far off. by then v probably wil already be down inside...eh...
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omg onoz fragemtation !!!11111
wait, this is wp7, so now fragmentation is ok, right ?
the buttons are gone , what's next ?
Wonder if that pic is a dodgy mock up?
ohgood said:
omg onoz fragmentation !!!
wait, this is wp7, so now fragmentation is ok, right ?
the buttons are gone , what's next ?
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You might engage both brain cells before your next post?
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You might engage both brain cells before your next post?
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Don't overstrain him

Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed!

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Look what we've found! This is the first image you'll see anywhere of the early fruit of Microsoft and Nokia's budding new partnership. We have it on good authority that the technicolor phones on show are conceptual devices produced by the two companies. You shouldn't, therefore, go jumping to conclusions about retail hardware just yet, but hearts should be warmed by the familiarity of Nokia's new design -- the shape of these handsets is somewhere between its recent N8 and C7 Symbian devices and there is, as usual for Nokia, a choice of sprightly colors. The trio of keys adorning the new concept's bottom give away its Windows Phone 7 ties, but also remind us that the N8 and E7 are highly unlikely to receive any WP7 upgrade love. The best part about this whole discovery, however, might be that it confirms Steve Ballmer's assertion that the engineers of both companies have "spent a lot of time on this already."
Source: Endgadget - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclusive-nokias-windows-phone-7-concept-revealed/
Damn this is exciting, isnt it...m sure things r about to go into top gear for WP7 n microsoft/nokia...while apple wil probably just end up whining about everything...wat say? as for these "microkia's", they r beautiful...i kno i want one...n i want one now!!! m sure most of u do.
They look awesome!
I hope they make something like these, I can see myself with the b;ack one and the wife with one of the pretty coloured ones!!!
exactly my thoughts...the black one looks quite 'orgasmic'...
How wrong I am, wife prefers the black one!
the black one rocks.... but mostly because the damned tiles aren't showing... anyone else notice this?
Just fu***** beautiful,i want the Black version
Saw these on engadget this morning, badass looking phones
I hope they bring back the old "Fascia" things they had on the 3310s etc and have multiple back covers available for you to buy in different colours and designs.
I want the black one but with black tiles!!!
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I want the black one but with black tiles!!!
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Black background and white tiles !!
Gorgeous. Lets hope they will produce them as we see them.
The problem is how long will it take Microkia to make it to market. They will be in trouble if they cannot make it before this holiday.
Gotta say... I think I see the phones of the future...
black one looking gr8....
Now I like this quite a bit, but it kinda looks like my Focus...
That was my thought. This looks almost like a Samsung Focus. At least the front of top are very close. The rear is tapered which I do like a little more.
Hopefully, we'll be seeing even more designs from Nokia (hardware keyboard hint, hint).
Hey guys, guess what, the concepts hav just been officialy shown at MWC by nokia...they r real, n possibly coming this year itself...
Nokia hints we'll see first Windows Phone 7 device this year!!!
Nokia may still sticking to the official line that it will begin shipping Windows Phone 7 devices in "significant volume" in 2012, but it just dropped a big hint at its Mobile World Congress press conference that we could be seeing the first device even sooner -- like this year. That word came from Nokia's Jo Harlow, who said that her boss would be "much happier" if the timing of the initial launch was in 2011. As you can see above, Nokia's also kindly confirmed that leaked Windows Phone 7 concept that we just got our hands on Friday, and it's shed yet more light on the behind the scenes intrigue that led up to the switch to Windows Phone 7. According to Stephen Elop, the "final decision" to go with Windows Phone "just happened on Thursday night of last week." Elop then later then expanded -- in response to a question audience about whether he was a trojan horse -- that the "entire management team" was involved in the process, and that "of course the board of directors of Nokia are the only ones that can make this significant of a decision about Nokia," which they made on Thursday night.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-hints-well-see-first-windows-phone-7-device-this-year/
I read this article in the main Windows Phone 7 section and I have to say it is exciting news.
Not only are Nokia providing their expert knowledge in hardware which will only make WP7 better to use but they will also be combining Ovi Stores with Windows Market Place. This means the famous Ovi Maps with voice guidance and the ability to download maps to SD card for offline useage will be available as well as other applications which were bought out on Symbian.
Nokia has also divided the company now into two businesses. One for mobile phone development and the other for smart phones such as WP7, Symbian and Meego. Some people are saying this is because Nokia fear a takeover from Microsoft but it certainly looks like Nokia are taking no chances.

Verizon HTC Trophy Release Thread

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Well guys its here finally released
http://phones.verizonwireless.com/htc/trophy/
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5635
HTC Trophy is a global Windows Phone 7 device for Verizon Wireless. It has a 1GHz processor, 3.8" WVGA display, 5MP Autofocus camera with LED flash, 720p video recording, 16GB of on-board memory, 576MB RAM / 512MB ROM , FM Radio, and will support DLNA.
After months of delays, false launch dates, and executive noncommittals, the HTC Trophy is finally now available for online order from Verizon Wireless for $150 with 2-year agreement, after $50 mail-in rebate. Verizon is also offering free overnight shipping so you can get your Trophy stat.
We have also finally learned the final details of the free Xbox 360 game deal. Trophy owners will need to go to www.freexboxgamenow.com and enter a code that’s on your phone packaging. You will then choose from three games (Halo:Reach, Kinect Sports or Lode Runner), and the game will be shipped out in “6 to 8 weeks”. Lame.
With the release of the HTC Trophy on Verizon, Windows Phone 7 is now on all four of the major wireless carriers in the United States.
http://wmpoweruser.com/award-yourself-with-the-verizon-trophy-–-available-now/
i already ordered mines should be getting it tomorrow
And it was sold out in most areas by 9:30-11am....try to get one now !
I got one - great device! Love the form factor.
OMG why so expensive?! amazon.de has it for 177 eur!!!
got mines today i LOVE it...great os and its only the beginning i just wish that u could copy and paste files via usb mass storage mode AND zune syncing and u can download mp3's through the web browser, and add/delete files without needing to hook it up to a computer but so far i love it
ill wait for mango for the custom ringtones and everything else the facebook app is nice they just need to add a few more feature like the ability to tag people to check in spots and the ability to use the camera to take a pic at the check in locations like the android app does
but i really love this os. now i gotta find some fun games and other coo apps
Love it thus far! Makes my Omnia II look like a brick. Some great free apps in Marketplace. I would bet from most folks here. Thanks for the cool apps! I like the level, compass, altimeter, foursquare, endomondo, DB meter, price scanner, apps. No Song ID app though? Is there a list of top rated Wp7 apps you guys use?
Question for the newbie WP7 user - is there a good read/thread on Roms, unlocking, the WP7? I have been adding ROMS since 6.0 so looking forward to tweaking the VZW Trophy.
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Love it thus far! Makes my Omnia II look like a brick. Some great free apps in Marketplace. I would bet from most folks here. Thanks for the cool apps! I like the level, compass, altimeter, foursquare, endomondo, DB meter, price scanner, apps. No Song ID app though? Is there a list of top rated Wp7 apps you guys use?
Question for the newbie WP7 user - is there a good read/thread on Roms, unlocking, the WP7? I have been adding ROMS since 6.0 so looking forward to tweaking the VZW Trophy.
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no roms - I think what people need to realize the goal of a rom was to make the lives of windows users far easier to which was limited by OEMs. In many ways, the wp7 product, save from elevated privileges, is a fantastic product as it stands. Custom roms will be available in time but not yet
Planned on getting one today. I called my local Verizon store and they informed me it was special order only. Not going to have it in stock at store locations. That really sucks.
How about unlolcking?
I fine with no custom ROMs, that's not something I really ever done. However, I'd love to unlock the device so that I can sideload apps. The main one I'd love to have would be the Navigon Select GPS app.
I understand I can developer unlock the device, but I was wondering if there is any other way?
I spent several hours trying to unlock with Chevron, and no luck. From what I understand, Chevron won't work with NoDo update. The only software available for the device has NoDo update installed already (burnt in ROM, I guess, so I haven't tried to resetting/formatting the device). Since we can't go back to 7004 WP7 release (when Chevron still worked), I assume Chevron is a no-go on NoDo?
Gadgetman, you are correct. Devices that don't have pre-NoDo ROMs available cannot be unlocked. There's an ongoing project here in the Development and Hacking forum where people are trying to jailbreak NoDo, but it's very far from a real unlock.
Sorry for bad news.
I'm pretty disappointed that Microsoft made such overtures to the homebrew/sideloading community, but it all appears to have been a hollow gesture.
I actually passed on the Chevron unlock, thinking that at some point this year, an officially supported mechanism would be made available (other than paying $100/year for a developer license). And now, due to an unfortunate sequence of events, I can't restore to pre-NoDo, so my phone is permanently locked.
I ordered mine the very day it came out, I love it; best phone I ever had. Can't wait for Mango.
MS Store had it for 0.01 with a 2 year contract... and you get 4000 xbox live points and 20 or 40.00 off MS Office 2010... crazy deals and if you get the free xbox game more freebies. I got my Xbox game already, just came today.
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MS Store had it for 0.01 with a 2 year contract... and you get 4000 xbox live points and 20 or 40.00 off MS Office 2010... crazy deals and if you get the free xbox game more freebies. I got my Xbox game already, just came today.
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I got mine as an insurance replacement for my broken Touch Pro 2, great phone. I was going to buy it off contract anyway (I really wanted one with a keyboard and I'm waiting for 2nd gen models before signing a 2 year)
You got your 360 game already ? They are saying 4-6 weeks, how long did you wait ?

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