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Face lock actually is useful!!! And not a gimmick like they say!!!

Just wanted you guys feelings on how this feature is doing in your nexus life. I actually use it as a security feature and it hasn't let me down and I don't think it will. I'd like to hear your thoughts. That's one up on the iphone.
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Less secure than PIN or pattern unlock as the 'PIN' in the case of Face Unlock is literally written all over your face.
Note that the argument is actually more complicated than this because it depends on what threat you're actually trying to secure your phone from.

the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.

I tried it for two days, but I became tired of looking like a real winner in public unlocking my phone, as well as it didn't catch my face all the time. (about 66% of the time) I do agree however that it is more than a gimmick.

substance12 said:
the one are i think this is the most useful is when i'm driving and i have to unlock. tell me that isn't convenient.
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Thats the only time i see this being useful. I havent tried it and probably dont plan on as right now its just a fun feature if anything.
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It would be great if the preview image from face unlock could be disabled. I know I'm handsome and all, but I don't want to look at my mug 63 times a day.

I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?

Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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Sleek69 said:
I tried it at the verizon store and it seemed pretty legit. Does anybody know if this is a galnex only feature or will it come to all ics devices with a front facing camera?
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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.

i was surprised that it worked with my glasses on and off. i initially set it up, but i cant be bothered setting up a secure lock screen, since i like quick camera access which cant be had with a PIN or face unlock

using it on mine, however the one interesting thing is, I was showing off on launch day. And handed my phone to my mom and said unlock it. She turned it on and it recognized her faster than me. As posted previously, use the improve feature in settings
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I'm actually constantly surprised by how well the face unlock works! And if for whatever reason you want to bypass it quickly, you can just tap at the bottom of the screen to go immediately to whatever your backup method is!
I tried a couple facebook pictures of myself and those didn't unlock, and I also haven't tried to see if it might recognize my brother as me but honestly, if someone really wanted to get into your phone, they would regardless of what kind of "security" you use. In my opinion, the face unlock is quick, functional and cool. What's not to like?

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I installed the OTA onto my Nexus S, it is not an option even though it has an ffc.
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Yeah, and Face Unlock on all the custom ICS builds was absolutely horrible. Worked maybe 1/10 times after setting it up in perfect lighting.
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dwallersv said:
Well,count me as loving it.
It's very fast. Works about 90% of the time if you do half a dozen shots under different conditions with the improve matching feature.
I really like it.
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where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it

deaffob said:
I think it's just like any other security lock on smartphones. PIN, pattern, and face unlock, they are all the same imho. If I got the phone in my hand, I'll be able to see what you have no matter what. Doesn't matter what kind of security feature you have.
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+1 on this.
(I was too lazy to elaborate on different threat scenarios more than adding a disclaimer to my post

Works alright. I don't know I like having it turned on, but have messed with it some.

Ewroinc said:
where exactly is this improve matching feature
I cant seem to find it
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It's in 4.0.2, you won't find it in 4.0.1

It takes too long for my liking.

I find it stupid that my Nexus won't let me use face recognotion if I setup a VPN, it forces you to choose between a pin/pattern/password. So now if I want to use face unlock I have to create then delete my VPN connection everytime.

TecTiles?

Thinking of getting some tectiles and wanted to know you guys experiences with them?
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Thinking of getting some tectiles and wanted to know you guys experiences with them?
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It was cool, but I dont really use them like I hoped I would

I got a set but I've only played with them. It's a neat novelty but at the cost not really practical. If they were cents each rather than dollars I might use them more.

Just register your phone on Samsung.com and you'll get a 50% off coupon...buy your TecTiles with that. I have mine by the door to toggle WiFi, in the bathroom to launch Play Music, and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
I use mine a lot, but my only gripe is that the phone has to be on and unlocked in order for it to work...but its better than nothing I guess.
I have thought about putting one in the living room for guests to use to connect to WiFi without asking for the password.
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There.....Meh....
I got them for 50% off, so the price was more of a non point for me. Honestly though, I've only used one of them and then sort of forgot about them. They're nothing you can't just do as well on the phone itself. Fun to show off for a second I guess.

I got 10 of them off eBay for under 11bucks but only found my self using 3 of them lol they cool to play with but i hardly find my self using it everyday lol
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Jcossack88 said:
and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
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srsly? lmfao :laugh:
the way you set up yours are exactly the reasons why I didn't get any. couldn't think of any legitimate uses for them.

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couldn't think of any legitimate uses for them.
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How is that not legitimate? Oh that's right, that is simply an opinion. Luckily, I live in America, and I am free to choose what is legitimate for my needs. I guess you missed the connect to WiFi without having to scrummage through to find the password.
What are your expectations? You want it to brew, make, and deliver your coffee to you in the morning?
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Jcossack88 said:
How is that not legitimate? Oh that's right, that is simply an opinion. Luckily, I live in America, and I am free to choose what is legitimate for my needs.
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woah buddy, lighten up, lol. of course that was "an opinion", and mine obviously. sorry that I think having an NFC tag setup to launch YT when I'm taking dump is ridiculous. if you don't want conversations that are inherently going to have opinions, and possibly opinions that are not yours, don't post in a public forum, maybe?
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I guess you missed the connect to WiFi without having to scrummage through to find the password.
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and while that sounds great, NFC is not ubiquitious enough to make that worthwhile. in my opinion.
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What are your expectations? You want it to brew, make, and deliver your coffee to you in the morning?
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no... just want to it things I would expect a phone to do. I'm not even sure how that statement is a "witty comeback", as it's contextually nonsense.
seriously, relax.

Not ubiquitous because people like you keep saying it isn't. Buy it, try it out...you may find something interesting that will intrigue another to do the same. My local mall uses NFC to give out free songs or magazine articles. What's a couple of bucks gonna hurt? You already bought a $300+ phone...might as well use its features.
You don't have to use the Samsung TecTiles...you can buy any of them, and download an NFC programmable app.
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Jcossack88 said:
Not ubiquitous because people like you keep saying it isn't. Buy it, try it out...you may find something interesting that will intrigue another to do the same. My local mall uses NFC to give out free songs or magazine articles. What's a couple of bucks gonna hurt? You already bought a $300+ phone...might as well use its features.
You don't have to use the Samsung TecTiles...you can buy any of them, and download an NFC programmable app.
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lol, fair enough, actually.
believe me, I wish I could think of uses for them that would do something I thought was functional, because gawdamn, the idea is cool. and I do love anything new tech-wise. i'm always an early adopter.
(and I bought the phone outright. $700 bucks w/ tax. worth every damn penny.)
so far, the only implementation I am seeing make NFC worthwhile is sBeam/filesharing, and google wallet (if it worked right now).
I will be keeping a watch on the tech, and I tend to make frivolous purchases (like the AllShare TV dongle), and perhaps I'll keep an eye on you, see if you come up with anything that sparks some ideas.

Anything useful for my personal routine (turning off ringer at work etc.) I have set up in tasker. For little stuff like opening you tube while on toilet, (lol) it just doesnt seem more convienent to tap phone to a tag than to click the app on my homescreen. Tasker really does all of the automation for me for work, my car etc.
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A sprint tech said it (Google Wallet) should come in January, so add 4 months to that.
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Jcossack88 said:
Just register your phone on Samsung.com and you'll get a 50% off coupon...buy your TecTiles with that. I have mine by the door to toggle WiFi, in the bathroom to launch Play Music, and by the toilet to launch YouTube.
I use mine a lot, but my only gripe is that the phone has to be on and unlocked in order for it to work...but its better than nothing I guess.
I have thought about putting one in the living room for guests to use to connect to WiFi without asking for the password.
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Jelly Bomb has nfc with the screen off built in. I tried pulling the Nfc.apk from the 10.20 build and putting it on my own deodexed LJC rom but it didn't allow nfc with the screen off.

One thing that I thought would be useful is if I could set it up as a proximity sensor. Ex: when I put the phone in my car dock it turns on blue tooth and when I take it out it turns it off without having to touch another tag?
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It does with a little tweaking. It took me a little while to get working correctly but there is a how to thread floating around here.
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and google wallet (if it worked right now)
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher
That is the one I use. You can setup toggles with only one nfc label. For example. Scan it and it will turn off the alarm. And if you scan it again it will turn it on. It really expand the uses of the labels. And you can program e series of actions with it. Hope this help you
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We got some demos (and extra for us) at work, it's a tectile arm band, but I could fully program it and everything, my co-worker thought it was cool since he couldn't do it (lol iPhone) so I was thinking about keeping one, never know when I could wanna "wow" a friend
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deerkiller11 said:
One thing that I thought would be useful is if I could set it up as a proximity sensor. Ex: when I put the phone in my car dock it turns on blue tooth and when I take it out it turns it off without having to touch another tag?
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yes, just set it up to Toggle the bluetooth - that way if it's on it will turn off and visa versa.
I have similar setups and it works like a charm.
and the tiles will work with Every phone that has NFC, so even when you get a future phone, the tiles will continue to work. I think they are the bees knees.

they become more useful once you mod the phone to work with nfc screen off (someone posted a mod but it only works from lockscreen not screen off hopefully that will be fixed soon)
I have one each on my washer and dryer. they set a "timer" that goes off and tells me when the washer and dryer are done (30 minutes for washer 70minutes for dryer)
I have one on my car to auto set my car locator position one the dev for car locator gets that working right.
I also plan to use them for geo caching. I hope geocaching.com integrates NFC functionality into their service soon is VERY ideal for that.
I also plan to use them on "bins" in storage. I store what is in the bin in the tag. tap and now I know whats inside (working on that soon)
you can use QR codes but they are a pain (have to load an app) and then wait for camera to focus AND they don't like low light. NFC don't care tap done.
also plan to put on on my Radio Transmitter for my competition rocket gliders. tap and 15minute countdown timer starts.

GSM Galaxy Nexus [Q]

I recently had to do a battery pull and noticed a little circle(slightly raised/black/with an even smaller hole in the middle). I never really touch manuals, I guess I should start. Anyways, what is that for?

Any one curious enough that actually got an answer? Show some love.

Get a screenshot of the icon?

I guess I will provide a shot of what I'm seeing. Its a little plug of some sort top right of the battery after the back is off.

I can't find the resource that led me to believe this is part of nfc, but that's what i keep thinking.

bodh said:
I can't find the resource that led me to believe this is part of nfc, but that's what i keep thinking.
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And since your around and were cool enough to help... what is nfc? If it is not too much to ask.

Near Field Communication. Google Wallet uses it, just like Visa pay pass cards. They have a little wifi-esque symbol on them. Ever hear of android beam? Transferring data from one phone to another without wires... I'm a little taken aback that you have not heard of this!
Edit: Though some research is making me doubt this, as aparrently I would be looking for a chip on the logic board as an nfc component. Found this: http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/506286-what-under-sim-card-slot.html...
Anyone else comment on this?

@bodh if you decide to recheck this. Thanks for the link. Yeah, I kinda do android on my own close to a hundred percent of the time. I think I've come across the option somewhere in settings. That sounds pretty cool - to transfer files from phone to phone like that. It became an option on jb?

No in was announced in ICS. Are you a new user?
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Only thing is, nfc is limited, and its best application seems to be as a walletless payment system. For example, you could transfer contact info and like text files, but not photos. For example, on the gnex the feature is called android beam, and i once tried to beam a photo to an SIII, which has S-beam, and it would not work. Something like "receiving device will not accept large files". So bluetooth still dominates, but it is definitely worth learning about.

dirtyreturn said:
I recently had to do a battery pull and noticed a little circle(slightly raised/black/with an even smaller hole in the middle). I never really touch manuals, I guess I should start. Anyways, what is that for?
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It is a port that an external antenna can be connected to, but which was probably used by Samsung for testing purposes.
And for anyone thinking about using it, be extremely careful. You can easily damage it resulting in a severing of the internal antenna connection.

Official Motorola Skip

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/08/hello-skip-goodbye-pin-introducing.html?m=1
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kornklown69 said:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/08/hello-skip-goodbye-pin-introducing.html?m=1
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I just ordered my Moto X today. I didn't see anything about the Skip on the Moto Maker website, and that worries me. I want a Skip. D:

iandr0idos said:
I just ordered my Moto X today. I didn't see anything about the Skip on the Moto Maker website, and that worries me. I want a Skip. D:
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I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/

fitchpuckman said:
I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/
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Yeah I'm an AT&T subscriber. So basically, I should just not worry and just assume that I'm gonna get a Skip?

Not sure, just thought I'd share. Does seem like they're including with at least the initial pre-orders, though. Maybe a CSR could tell you? The people in upgrades/sales will probably be misery knowledgeable. May be worth waiting to see and then tracking one if needed?
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fitchpuckman said:
I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/
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Not sure, just thought I'd share. Does seem like they're including with at least the initial pre-orders, though. Maybe a CSR could tell you? The people in upgrades/sales will probably be misery knowledgeable. May be worth waiting to see and then tracking one if needed?
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I can confirm Skip will be given as a free bonus with all motomaker orders for a "limited time," I just don't know how long (first few days? weeks?).

Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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fitchpuckman said:
Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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It's kind of hard to understand exactly how useful it is until I actually get it later this week and test it out myself. Not even the press has given a review on it despite getting their motomaker phones yesterday, which I find it somewhat annoying because I'm curious exactly how useful it is. The basic usage is meant to work with a moto app that will allow your screen to disable the security lock pin/pattern if you had it enabled and it requires you to tap the phone to the clip on your clothing/belt or one of the "dots" that you can put in your car, desk, or other safe zone you want. Beyond that, the details are limited. Just have to wait at this point.

any word on if this can be used with other devices? I'd like this for my work phone that i cant root/tasker. Any info would be greatly appreciated

mb3030 said:
any word on if this can be used with other devices? I'd like this for my work phone that i cant root/tasker. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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I don't think nfc tags inside it are propriety, so it should work any app that can control nfc. But that's the catch, you still need an app to control the actions and recognize the tags, which may still probably require root to do so depending on what app you use. You could try installing the moto skip app if you can find the apk and then see if it works. No guarantee though.

Psilocin said:
I can confirm Skip will be given as a free bonus with all motomaker orders for a "limited time," I just don't know how long (first few days? weeks?).
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I ordered my motomaker last night and I'm getting a skip
fitchpuckman said:
Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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I have to use a password as well for work, and it looks like if you get the tags and the skip you can just leave the phone on them and just turn on the screen to unlock it and then you can use the voice controls.

fitchpuckman said:
Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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My activesync security policy doesn't allow NFC unlock

Well, it looks like the Moto Skip functionality doesn't work with any run-of-the-mill NFC tags. I installed their app, but I think it only listens for NFCs with a particular data header.
Anyone with a Skip tag willing to post an NFC dump?

armathrillo said:
Well, it looks like the Moto Skip functionality doesn't work with any run-of-the-mill NFC tags. I installed their app, but I think it only listens for NFCs with a particular data header.
Anyone with a Skip tag willing to post an NFC dump?
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According to Motorola's own support pages:
Can Moto X support the use of other NFC tags, or only Motorola Skip?
Once you have setup Motorola Skip, consumers can buy alternative aftermarket NFC tags (supported by the NXP chipset) and link it to Moto X for use alongside Motorola Skip.
Not bad.

johnny grep said:
According to Motorola's own support pages:
Can Moto X support the use of other NFC tags, or only Motorola Skip?
Once you have setup Motorola Skip, consumers can buy alternative aftermarket NFC tags (supported by the NXP chipset) and link it to Moto X for use alongside Motorola Skip.
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I saw that, but they're leaving something out. I tried a half-dozen different tags that work perfectly with other NFC programs on my Moto X, but none of them trigger Motorola Skip setup. There's no way to manually run the Skip setup, so it must listen for some kind of preprogrammed code on the official Skip NFC tags.
EDIT: Just got off the phone with Motorola (thought I'd give it a shot). The support rep I talked with said Motorola Skip was only compatible with the official Skip clip and stickers. I mentioned the support page online saying it'd work with other tags, and she said that conflicted with her documentation. Boo.

armathrillo said:
I saw that, but they're leaving something out. I tried a half-dozen different tags that work perfectly with other NFC programs on my Moto X, but none of them trigger Motorola Skip setup. There's no way to manually run the Skip setup, so it must listen for some kind of preprogrammed code on the official Skip NFC tags.
EDIT: Just got off the phone with Motorola (thought I'd give it a shot). The support rep I talked with said Motorola Skip was only compatible with the official Skip clip and stickers. I mentioned the support page online saying it'd work with other tags, and she said that conflicted with her documentation. Boo.
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Do you have an original Skip tag? I thought you needed to set up a real Moto tag first. Then you can setup 3rd party tags - at least that's how I read it.
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Made it work, sorta
Received my T-Mobile Moto X today. (Ordered it yesterday, they apparently decided to ship Priority Overnight, Saturday Delivery). It came with an official Motorola Skip. Configured it and the dots without an issue. Then went to Security > Manage NFC Unlock and tried to associate an NFC-based loyalty card I happened to have around. (Five Stars card, fwiw). It recognized the tag and indicated it needed to make additional room on it. I was prompted to "erase the data" on the card. Given that I really didn't want to render the card useless, I passed. But it sure seemed to me as if I had a blank tag of some kind that I could have written to it and started using it.
-jbn

jbnewman said:
Received my T-Mobile Moto X today. (Ordered it yesterday, they apparently decided to ship Priority Overnight, Saturday Delivery). It came with an official Motorola Skip. Configured it and the dots without an issue. Then went to Security > Manage NFC Unlock and tried to associate an NFC-based loyalty card I happened to have around. (Five Stars card, fwiw). It recognized the tag and indicated it needed to make additional room on it. I was prompted to "erase the data" on the card. Given that I really didn't want to render the card useless, I passed. But it sure seemed to me as if I had a blank tag of some kind that I could have written to it and started using it.
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Good. This is consistent with what's in the online documentation.
BTW does anyone know if original Skip tags can be purchased at retail stores, or is it only orderable from Motorola?

The skip was a horrible idea. I received mine 2 days ago after waiting the full 10 days. Then yesterday I went to the mall wearing it on my cargo pocket for my shorts and lost it somewhere..... Big ass waste of $20.
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Anybody willing to sell me theirs?
I can't get it in canada.
I'll do an NFC dump if I can get my hands on one.
At first I thought it was ridiculous to pay $20 for a simple NFC tag, but I can't get anything to activate the motorola skip software on my moto x.
I can unlock my screen with tasker if I could just get an NFC tag to be read with screen off or locked, but I cant get the motorola to read any of my NFC tags with my screen off or locked.... Anyone know how to do this? I know its possible because the skip is detected when the screen is off

NFC Ring - anyone got one?

I've been waiting so long for the NFC Rings to go on sale and now you can pre-order them: http://store.nfcring.com/
Anyone got one already, from the Kickstarter batch? Is it easy to use/worth getting, or is it just fiddly and a pain in the backside?
EDIT: Oh yeah, does it work through a case? I have Diztronic TPU case. If it don't work through that then I won't be interested.

Wow that's a pretty cool idea. I'd imagine it would work through a case. I use android beam between my phone and tablet and they both have cases on them.
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haha, a nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.

x111 said:
*video*
haha, nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
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Hahah, that's hilarious.
tap, tap, tap, tap..... tap, tap, tap, tap
"Screw it, I'll use the unlock code!"

To decrease battery usage, I switch off BT and NFC. Everytime I have to use this ring, I have to unlock the phone and switch on the NFC and then find the sweet spot. No thanks, sir.

I backed it when I thought it was a novel idea. Now not so much lol. I already gave him my funds, so it's just like a expensive nfc tag lol. I don't have it yet though. I think it's shipping soon.

why not just use the powerbutton LOLOL

This seems kind of pointless to me.

I ordered both the regular ring and the alpha ring through the kickstarter, once they arrive I'll let you know how they work on the nexus 5.
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i think it's only good for NFC doors and sharing contacts, not worth it to use it to unlock phones

I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.

floepie said:
I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.

kpjimmy said:
No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.

I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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setspeed said:
I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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floepie said:
Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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Motion sensor I assume. It freaked me out the first few times it happened because I didn't know it was an option in the ROM, and I thought my phone had been awake in my pocket. But upon digging through the settings, there is one under Lockscreen > Lockscreen Notifications called Pocket Mode You can set it to always wake the screen whenever you take it out of your pocket, or only wake if there are new notifications. Also it goes back to sleep when you put it in your pocket again. It's pretty dope.

Ohgami_Ichiro said:
The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
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Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).

ritzxda said:
Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
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Are you using the xposed module or is it baked into the rom?

Hey guys, I'm the creator of the NFC Ring, thought I'd just jump on to say thanks for all the comments.
I'd agree with most of your points, you wil find your own use for your NFC Ring, it might not be unlocking your phone for example.. We actually provide all of our source code on github so you can build your own apps on the back of the NFC Ring..
We don't want to box people into specific use cases, we just provide a few example ones to get hackers started with the possibilities.
Just to answer some criticisms directly:
1) It's just two NFC tags on a ring. Pretty much but the amount of R&D that goes into doing that well is actually a lot, RFID and metal don't play well together and we have to build our own antennas specifically for this use case.
2) RE Derek's video, yea he had an initial poor first experience, we ship both a classic and alpha size ring, the alphas sweet spot is larger which makes it more useful for when you can't see the phones sweet spot. After conversations with Derek (read the comments) he does mention he didn't spend any time with the ring before doing a demo and we do encourage people to get used to using the ring. It takes a few days but this is new technology so there is an inherent learning curve..
Overall I'm really proud of what we made with the NFC Ring, it's been a lot of work and we have been completely open about everything and shared everything from day one. We're shipping another 1,000 rings tomorrow and I'm really excited to see what folks hack together. Our job now is to support anyone who wants to build something with their ring, whatever that may be..
If you do wanna engage with the NFC Ring community perhaps nudge some of the community members to jump over here and share their thoughts
We're still a small community but our goals are big Why would you want to keep those pesky unsecure keys that scratch your phone?! That's really what we're at war with..
Thanks again guys, every bit of support really helps and even if we're not the company that provides your NFC Ring I hope we were the ones to at least kickstart things in the right direction with sharing and open-source at the core.