http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/08/hello-skip-goodbye-pin-introducing.html?m=1
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/08/hello-skip-goodbye-pin-introducing.html?m=1
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I just ordered my Moto X today. I didn't see anything about the Skip on the Moto Maker website, and that worries me. I want a Skip. D:
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I just ordered my Moto X today. I didn't see anything about the Skip on the Moto Maker website, and that worries me. I want a Skip. D:
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I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/
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I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/
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Yeah I'm an AT&T subscriber. So basically, I should just not worry and just assume that I'm gonna get a Skip?
Not sure, just thought I'd share. Does seem like they're including with at least the initial pre-orders, though. Maybe a CSR could tell you? The people in upgrades/sales will probably be misery knowledgeable. May be worth waiting to see and then tracking one if needed?
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fitchpuckman said:
I could have sworn i read somewhere that AT&T had a "limited" number of them that they'd be shipping with pre-orders. Looks like you may be an AT&T subscriber? Not sure how you're doing the purchase but just figured I'd throw that out there.
EDIT: http://www.slashgear.com/att-moto-x-lands-august-23-with-skip-in-box-initially-16293964/
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Not sure, just thought I'd share. Does seem like they're including with at least the initial pre-orders, though. Maybe a CSR could tell you? The people in upgrades/sales will probably be misery knowledgeable. May be worth waiting to see and then tracking one if needed?
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I can confirm Skip will be given as a free bonus with all motomaker orders for a "limited time," I just don't know how long (first few days? weeks?).
Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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It's kind of hard to understand exactly how useful it is until I actually get it later this week and test it out myself. Not even the press has given a review on it despite getting their motomaker phones yesterday, which I find it somewhat annoying because I'm curious exactly how useful it is. The basic usage is meant to work with a moto app that will allow your screen to disable the security lock pin/pattern if you had it enabled and it requires you to tap the phone to the clip on your clothing/belt or one of the "dots" that you can put in your car, desk, or other safe zone you want. Beyond that, the details are limited. Just have to wait at this point.
any word on if this can be used with other devices? I'd like this for my work phone that i cant root/tasker. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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any word on if this can be used with other devices? I'd like this for my work phone that i cant root/tasker. Any info would be greatly appreciated
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I don't think nfc tags inside it are propriety, so it should work any app that can control nfc. But that's the catch, you still need an app to control the actions and recognize the tags, which may still probably require root to do so depending on what app you use. You could try installing the moto skip app if you can find the apk and then see if it works. No guarantee though.
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I can confirm Skip will be given as a free bonus with all motomaker orders for a "limited time," I just don't know how long (first few days? weeks?).
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I ordered my motomaker last night and I'm getting a skip
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Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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I have to use a password as well for work, and it looks like if you get the tags and the skip you can just leave the phone on them and just turn on the screen to unlock it and then you can use the voice controls.
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Thanks. I imagine it probably just depends on how the phone sells? Google/Moto is probably providing at&t with some stock to get Skip visible in the public and get people interested in using it. Just a thought.
How do you guys see it being useful? I don't mean that in a snide way, just curious. Maybe I don't know enough about it but seems to just replace swiping to open? I have group administrative policies through work so I'd probably not be able to benefit much from it since we are forced to use a pin or password unlock. Kinda kills all the lock screen options out there. Damn government work. Anyway, seems like there could potentially be some cool Dev to expand the Skip functionality in the future? Call waiting/music and volume controls/etc. Not sure if any of that is compatible though.
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My activesync security policy doesn't allow NFC unlock
Well, it looks like the Moto Skip functionality doesn't work with any run-of-the-mill NFC tags. I installed their app, but I think it only listens for NFCs with a particular data header.
Anyone with a Skip tag willing to post an NFC dump?
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Well, it looks like the Moto Skip functionality doesn't work with any run-of-the-mill NFC tags. I installed their app, but I think it only listens for NFCs with a particular data header.
Anyone with a Skip tag willing to post an NFC dump?
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According to Motorola's own support pages:
Can Moto X support the use of other NFC tags, or only Motorola Skip?
Once you have setup Motorola Skip, consumers can buy alternative aftermarket NFC tags (supported by the NXP chipset) and link it to Moto X for use alongside Motorola Skip.
Not bad.
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According to Motorola's own support pages:
Can Moto X support the use of other NFC tags, or only Motorola Skip?
Once you have setup Motorola Skip, consumers can buy alternative aftermarket NFC tags (supported by the NXP chipset) and link it to Moto X for use alongside Motorola Skip.
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I saw that, but they're leaving something out. I tried a half-dozen different tags that work perfectly with other NFC programs on my Moto X, but none of them trigger Motorola Skip setup. There's no way to manually run the Skip setup, so it must listen for some kind of preprogrammed code on the official Skip NFC tags.
EDIT: Just got off the phone with Motorola (thought I'd give it a shot). The support rep I talked with said Motorola Skip was only compatible with the official Skip clip and stickers. I mentioned the support page online saying it'd work with other tags, and she said that conflicted with her documentation. Boo.
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I saw that, but they're leaving something out. I tried a half-dozen different tags that work perfectly with other NFC programs on my Moto X, but none of them trigger Motorola Skip setup. There's no way to manually run the Skip setup, so it must listen for some kind of preprogrammed code on the official Skip NFC tags.
EDIT: Just got off the phone with Motorola (thought I'd give it a shot). The support rep I talked with said Motorola Skip was only compatible with the official Skip clip and stickers. I mentioned the support page online saying it'd work with other tags, and she said that conflicted with her documentation. Boo.
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Do you have an original Skip tag? I thought you needed to set up a real Moto tag first. Then you can setup 3rd party tags - at least that's how I read it.
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Made it work, sorta
Received my T-Mobile Moto X today. (Ordered it yesterday, they apparently decided to ship Priority Overnight, Saturday Delivery). It came with an official Motorola Skip. Configured it and the dots without an issue. Then went to Security > Manage NFC Unlock and tried to associate an NFC-based loyalty card I happened to have around. (Five Stars card, fwiw). It recognized the tag and indicated it needed to make additional room on it. I was prompted to "erase the data" on the card. Given that I really didn't want to render the card useless, I passed. But it sure seemed to me as if I had a blank tag of some kind that I could have written to it and started using it.
-jbn
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Received my T-Mobile Moto X today. (Ordered it yesterday, they apparently decided to ship Priority Overnight, Saturday Delivery). It came with an official Motorola Skip. Configured it and the dots without an issue. Then went to Security > Manage NFC Unlock and tried to associate an NFC-based loyalty card I happened to have around. (Five Stars card, fwiw). It recognized the tag and indicated it needed to make additional room on it. I was prompted to "erase the data" on the card. Given that I really didn't want to render the card useless, I passed. But it sure seemed to me as if I had a blank tag of some kind that I could have written to it and started using it.
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Good. This is consistent with what's in the online documentation.
BTW does anyone know if original Skip tags can be purchased at retail stores, or is it only orderable from Motorola?
The skip was a horrible idea. I received mine 2 days ago after waiting the full 10 days. Then yesterday I went to the mall wearing it on my cargo pocket for my shorts and lost it somewhere..... Big ass waste of $20.
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Anybody willing to sell me theirs?
I can't get it in canada.
I'll do an NFC dump if I can get my hands on one.
At first I thought it was ridiculous to pay $20 for a simple NFC tag, but I can't get anything to activate the motorola skip software on my moto x.
I can unlock my screen with tasker if I could just get an NFC tag to be read with screen off or locked, but I cant get the motorola to read any of my NFC tags with my screen off or locked.... Anyone know how to do this? I know its possible because the skip is detected when the screen is off
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Anyone use nfc? I still have yet to find a use for it. If you use it then what do you do with it. If you don't then do you feel it is useless?
at least we have it... some dont
Not using it yet.....
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Yeah, for now it's pretty useless in the U.S. Other countries are using it though, we have just fallen behind as far as NFC goes.
NFC doesn't seem to work with CM7 on my phone, it just straight doesn't turn on. I haven't seen it in the list of "not working" stuff in the threads, but I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet, so I'm not too worried
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I've been playing with it also with simple routine stuff like this. As soon as I get more tags i'm going to make some for checkins at my favorite hangouts... etc. But to date the most useful tasks I use NFC are checking the balance on my Clipper Card and Door entry access.
I've been trying the ports of CM7 but as soon as I've checked it out I bounce back to a backup because it won't work under CM7 and I need that door entry access.
Cheers
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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Ty for link and advice! cool now i know what i can use it for
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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that´s not right, in the us you can already pay at Mc Donalds with nfc (Nexus S 4g). For example in Germany, we don´t even have nfc phones.
Is it some becauze I dont anything, anywhere that nfc ready in cali
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It's useless, I just turn it off...not worth mentioning if a phone even has it.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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what do Euros and Asians use NFC for?
If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.[/QUOTE said:
That is very true, everything comes first with iPhones. Just example, iPhone can start up some cars that are synced with.. Android doesn't have an app like that..
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jessejames111981 said:
It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Worst part is iphone users will act like apple pioneered and invented NFC.
I disagree. I think you will see a lot of the users of older iPhones will upgrade and if NFC is incorporated into the phone those pesky Apple Fanboys you love to deride will be advocates for the cause. The monolithic platform will work in it's favor unlike Android phones that have NFC built in and functional but crippled because the platform is fragmented by the carriers. All those users coming online at once will be what gets us to critical mass... but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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I disagree. I have an all out apple fanboy at work that swears the drop down notification bar was invented by apple even though it just got implemented in ios5. Swears that apple pioneered 4g. Invented the touchscreen. And a few others.
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even apple claims they invented a single button and rounded edges.
Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
Nice video.
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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Have you considered the dev broke nfc? Have you verified nfc works? Does your extended batery have an nfc antenna in it?
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Nice video.
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Thank you.
teng247 said:
hmm everytime i try it at 7-11 nothing happens. Im using the extended battery and on cm9 kang rom
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If you're using a generic extended battery that is most likely the problem, as I believe the antenna for the NFC functionality is located in the battery. If you are using the correct battery then it is quite possible that the dev of that particular ROM may not have it functional yet.
I use NFC all the time, alot more than I expected because of Wallet. Alot more places take it than you think and being able to add money to a prepaid card is cool too.
just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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just wish there was a way to top it up internationally!
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Why can't it be topped up internationally?
I'll never forget my first time I used it at a BP gas station to get smokes. The cashier did the WTF??!?!? Face expression when I took out my phone and paid for it. I tried to keep a straight face until I exited the place than I bursted laughing lol. I should have recorded it.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
Krijs said:
Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Thought it could be used here, haven't people been using NFC at McDonalds. A few years ago there was a huge trial of NFC in London. I'm sure the stuff is still in place there. (I have GWallet on My nexus here in the UK but never used it)
There's a large scale trial in Nice (France) where I live, and they sell NFC phones (a modified Galaxy S II among others) with the ability to add your credit card, pay your bus fare with your phone bill, know exactly when the next bus arrives by tapping your phone on the NFC tag at your stop, or learn stuff about monuments and landmarks by tapping your phone on a NFC tag placed on a glass pane. Pretty cool stuff!
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Since there were people who were still asking questions about NFC I figured I'd throw together a quick video demonstrating real life NFC use. These are all real purchases (though I purposely kept the cost down lol).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
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Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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Another nice video of yours.
It went strait to my apple fan-boy friends in facebook, please don't sue me lol.
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LMAO! What did they say?
cyberpyr8 said:
Nice video! I used mine the first time the other day at a 7-11. I was concerned because I had put the new extended battery in and my OtterBox case on. Worked like a champ. I really like being able to pay that way. I recommend downloading the PayPass Locator app from the market to help find locations.
Two questions though, at Home Depot when it said to show your card what did the cashier do? Also, did you hit cancel when it said to enter the pin and run it as credit?
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I had to explain to her that there was no physical card to show. I explained to her how NFC works and she still wasn't buying it lol. So I had to open up the Wallet app and show her the picture of the virtual card to further explain it. Finally she understood (somewhat) and let it go through....the funny thing was it was only a 34 cent purchase! lmao.
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Good vid, looks snappy. Cannot wait for this in the UK. Hopefully we won't have herpaderps behind the counter that don't understand that you can pay with your phone (and get funny about it), although sadly I can see this being a problem for a while
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Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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LMAO! What did they say? ..
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Not single a word lol
owned !!!!
Do you have the Otterbox defender series case? I didn't get the extended battery because I thought it wouldn't fit.
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How do you know the place your at accepts NFC payment? I really wanna try this out
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Wish we could use it in the UK, would be amazing to use as a Oyster card too...
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London Transport will be soon http://www.nfcworld.com/2011/07/12/38537/transport-for-london-to-accept-nfc-payments-from-2012/
The Barclay card trial of NFC in London a few years ago included London Underground etc.
So, like many,I'm locked out of google Wallet. Would it be worth it to file an insurance claim and get a different nexus (new or refurb) or should I just hold off and continue to wait for a fix?
Any helpful input would be appreciated.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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How did you get locked out?
Well if you're using a VZW Nexus it's blocked/locked form usage. Did you get the apk or? I have wallet on my VZW Nexus and I can use it freely.
Cant you "break in" into Google Wallet by deleting the data so it asks you for you to set your pin?
I don't even think the galaxy nexus is officially supported by google wallet and the application is blocked in the market by verizon. It may have been the wallet security measures which locked your account and you could try calling google wallet support to reset your account.
Try ODIN Flashing and Fastboot Flashing yourself to stock. I don't think it could actually fix it, but it's worth a shot I guess. There will probably be a fix in the future, either from Google or XDA (my money is on XDA), but it will definitely be a while. I sold my Nexus One before it ever got a custom HBOOT, which many thought no one would take up. I would ask for a refurb personally, as I like using GWallet and it's one of the reasons I bought the phone.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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I realize that
Also,I got locked out by not resetting data within the app before switching roms (like many others on here). I had it working and loved it. I'm getting tired of not being able to use it now though.
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They would not process the claim based on an app not working
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Secure Element is a hardware component. Verizon cannot deny a claim on a hardware issue. That said...how do you explain to those peons to know the difference? I assume that if/when the ISIS app comes out, it will use SE as well. Then it will be easier to show them that its hardware (maybe).
Google Wallet may be blocked from the market, but Verizon allows sideloading of apps. Nowhere in their warranty terms do they say, "You are explicitly not allowed to install Google Wallet."
From what I've read, your secure element has shut itself down. If this is true, you'll probably never get a fix from either Google or XDA.
The OP could print out some Google support posts showing that phones need to be replaced when this happens. Verizon cannot void a warranty based on Google Wallet. The phone has the capability. It is of no fault that the user has a corrupted SE.
Better be stock and locked though.
@OP, if you're within your returns period then you should be able to just take the phone back.
However, though morally questionable, other people on these forums have had success by intentionally placing their phone into a bootloop to get a replacement device.
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@OP, if you're within your returns period then you should be able to just take the phone back.
However, though morally questionable, other people on these forums have had success by intentionally placing their phone into a bootloop to get a replacement device.
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I'm not unfortunately. I got it launch day and got locked out like 3 weeks later. Have been waiting ever since.
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From what I've read, your secure element has shut itself down. If this is true, you'll probably never get a fix from either Google or XDA.
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please explain to those who do not know, what is a secure element?
Google Wallet on GNex
My GNex is about 2 mo. old and when I first got it, one of the first things I wanted to do with it was put Google Wallet on it. Unfortunately, that was during the time when there were so many issues with it. After much research on XDA,(thanks so much by the way!), I installed the .apk from Google Wallet website. I have the "Unsupported Device" banner at the top of the screen but for me it's not a big deal. I have used it at several businesses and it worked flawlessly. I have even added funds to the Google Prepaid card from my bank's VISA debit card. An added bonus is peoples amazement when I pay for something with my phone. Google Wallets "Cool Factor" is off the scale.
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My GNex is about 2 mo. old and when I first got it, one of the first things I wanted to do with it was put Google Wallet on it. Unfortunately, that was during the time when there were so many issues with it. After much research on XDA,(thanks so much by the way!), I installed the .apk from Google Wallet website. I have the "Unsupported Device" banner at the top of the screen but for me it's not a big deal. I have used it at several businesses and it worked flawlessly. I have even added funds to the Google Prepaid card from my bank's VISA debit card. An added bonus is peoples amazement when I pay for something with my phone. Google Wallets "Cool Factor" is off the scale.
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that banner is because you are rooted, not because its a galaxy nexus.
Would someone please explain to me what is a "secure element"?
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Would someone please explain to me what is a "secure element"?
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Sure
Ive been locked out as well and debated reporting it lost paying the $100 for a replacement. But honestly besides using it at mc Donald's which i dont go to anyways or or few other places where you can use it then its just not worth it for me. Ill stick to plastic cards and besides android beam works
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Ive been locked out as well and debated reporting it lost paying the $100 for a replacement. But honestly besides using it at mc Donald's which i dont go to anyways or or few other places where you can use it then its just not worth it for me. Ill stick to plastic cards and besides android beam works
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I thought about that as well. But around me everyone takes pay pass. Plus bad esn gnex are selling for 150 or more on eBay.
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In toronto the transit system here has made a new payment system, an NFC enabled card. I'm wondering if there is a way that I can use my phone to pay/ send the nfc signals to the machines?
HSR in Hamilton also has this transaction system implemented. Would be interesting to see imho.
According to Metrolinx, using NFC-capable apps is definitely in the cards (no pun intended).
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projectsandprograms/presto/presto.aspx
TuxOtaku said:
According to Metrolinx, using NFC-capable apps is definitely in the cards (no pun intended).
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projectsandprograms/presto/presto.aspx
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Not trying to bring you down, but they said NFC-capable devices. That could mean, that they might do contracts with Mobile Network Operators or so and install an app on the secure element. So we'd not use a normal "Android-App".
Damastus said:
Not trying to bring you down, but they said NFC-capable devices. That could mean, that they might do contracts with Mobile Network Operators or so and install an app on the secure element. So we'd not use a normal "Android-App".
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Yeah but at the same time, GO Transit (and thus Metrolinx) DID get Ryerson University to build their (decidedly awesome) mobile app for them. So while I will concede that what you suggest is certainly POSSIBLE, it would also be something that would be both terribly unpopular, and likely quite expensive.
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Yeah but at the same time, GO Transit (and thus Metrolinx) DID get Ryerson University to build their (decidedly awesome) mobile app for them. So while I will concede that what you suggest is certainly POSSIBLE, it would also be something that would be both terribly unpopular, and likely quite expensive.
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Lets say it like this: It's still quite a difference if you emulate a card type that your reader already can read. If yout want to go the way of an app, then there would be the need to replace the old reader infrastructure with NFC readers. Both ways are expensive for the one or the other side in the end.
I would love it if one day they brought it to mobile phones. The more I can do with my phone the better. I hate carrying a bunch of stuff when one thing can do it all.
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Presto app genuine does not work on nfc - capable devices like pixel, ph-1 and lg5, moto g6 play , though did not tested on custom roms yet but unlocked bootloader devices mentioned above do not work with Presto.
P.S. If your device has finger reader, Presto will work but give you error for payments if you did not enabled lock screen pin/gesture / not swipe!/ + insert your, at least, one finger print.
Question is is there any hack to make enable to work the Presto app on device that was bootloader unlocked and rooted (hard or with magic app)?
The chip that gets read from the presto card is actually very small about the size of a sim card, I sliced mine out of the card and attaached it into my watch buckle,. Now when I get on a bus I look like James Bond.
So I got the 10 pack + keychain kit from tagsfordroids.com. So far, the only real uses I have found were one for work and one for home. When I get my Bluetooth carkit thing from Dice Electronics this weekend, I may go ahead and program the keychain as well so the phone will connect to the car and such once I am in it. I am using NFC Task Launcher to program to tags.
I was wondering if anyone else uses NFC tags and for what uses?
I just got a few and do the same. I have one where I come home it turns on certain features, I have one in the car that turns on bluetooth, and one on my keychain that turns off WiFi, BT and a bunch of other stuff to save battery while I'm out. It would be even easier if someone would hack our nfc.apk so the setttings would apply at the lock screen or while screen off.
I use AnyTAG (free market app). It doesn't actually write the NFC tag, just reads the ID number from it (so you can still reuse "locked" tags). Would highly recommend it if you're the only person using your tags.
se1000 said:
It would be even easier if someone would hack our nfc.apk so the setttings would apply at the lock screen or while screen off.
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This was one of the first things I noticed immediately. Yeah, we know it's not much more to unlock the phone first, but would be soooo convenient.
I am moving this from General to Q&A because well, its a question. But I am very interested in how to use these better. It is a function out there for these phone that I think is not tapped enough. Maybe this thread will generate more information on the subject.
Thanks for the move. I struggled with whether is belonged in Q&A or not.
You have to unlock the phone to use them?? From a security standpoint I guess that's good but for convenience it almost makes them pointless.
psykhotic said:
You have to unlock the phone to use them?? From a security standpoint I guess that's good but for convenience it almost makes them pointless.
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I wouldn't say pointless. They can be programmed like a batch file, performing multiple tasks, not just a single function, but I agree that being able to do them with the phone locked would be nice.
I suppose though from a security standpoint, it does make more sense, didn't think of potentially harmful NFC uses.
For me its not worth buying tags for something I can just take a couple seconds to do or automate with tasker.
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circuit.007 said:
For me its not worth buying tags for something I can just take a couple seconds to do or automate with tasker.
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Others have said this, and I simply say "6 in one, half dozen in the other"... really just a preference at this point. In the meantime, I would like to keep this thread going as a discussion of uses for it, not reason to not get them.
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This was one of the first things I noticed immediately. Yeah, we know it's not much more to unlock the phone first, but would be soooo convenient.
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I thought it was done already?
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I thought it was done already?
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...? Where did you see that? And can it be done on a stock SG3 (not rooted or anything...)?
FWIW, here is a small 8 min video I just saw when I was looking for something else about some of the functions of NFC. He is using the same NFC launcher app that you are using as well. But also talks about how some Samsung NFC tags won't work with Nexus 4 but do obviously with GNex.
It is from Gigaom, off the Reuters news site.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/1...-phone-an?videoId=239430247&videoChannel=3400
Can't watch it while at work so I will check it later, but I have heard of some tags having weird incompatibilities and such. Every now and then, when formatting a tag or programming, I will get the weird error about the tag's memory being too small. Not sure if thats what the video is getting at, but I will check it when I get home.
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Can't watch it while at work so I will check it later, but I have heard of some tags having weird incompatibilities and such. Every now and then, when formatting a tag or programming, I will get the weird error about the tag's memory being too small. Not sure if thats what the video is getting at, but I will check it when I get home.
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Check this out. NFC without unlocking and screen of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709586
and this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27442604&postcount=33
Those seem fine and dandy, but would be nice if these could be applied to non-rooted folks. This is the first Android I have had where I did root and went back to stock as the stock software was just about perfect for me.