[Q] How can I run MHL adapter and wireless keyboard at the same time? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

I don't want to shell out for the smart dock and I think this 4 port usb hub(non powered) would work. I would plug the USB OTG cable in to my note 2, then plug in the USB hub, followed by my Logitech K400 in to one of the four port, then a MHL adapter to one of the four USB port, run power to the MHL adapter, then an HDMI cable from MHL adapter to the TV when ever I want to surf the internet using my phone using wireless keyboard/mouse and displaying it on the tv. Will that work or will I need a powered USB hub?
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sorry to break it to you but the mhl adapter is micro usb
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reinaldistic said:
sorry to break it to you but the mhl adapter is micro usb
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How did I miss that! So if I get a female micro to male USB will it work? I mean will the HDMI signal still pass thru the hub out to the MHL adapter. Let me go watch the note 2 connectivity where that guy hooks half a million thing thru his powered usb hub.

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How did I miss that! So if I get a female micro to male USB will it work? I mean will the HDMI signal still pass thru the hub out to the MHL adapter. Let me go watch the note 2 connectivity where that guy hooks half a million thing thru his powered usb hub.
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no, the mhl adapter for our phones is the reason we have 11 pins in the micro usb port. the mhl adapter uses the 6 extra pins and thus the phone doesn't transmit hdmi signal through the 5 normal pins... also the mhl adapter only works if your phone is being charged through the extra usb port on the adapter itself.
I know you next question will be well then can I connect the usb otg adapter to the port on the mhl adapter. well for that you would pretty much have to build yourself some converters. you would need to supply power to the phone while at the same time supply power to the usb items you are trying to use. this presents a peculiar problem usb otg relies on shorting the grounding wire. if you make it shorted no charger will allow current through, if you don't short it the phone won't recognize that it had to become a usb host controller. you might get away with using some diodes to make the phone think it's shorted while the chargers think it's not, but I don't know enough about the whole process to know if the software on the phone would utilize that correctly... bottom line is I don't think it's possible.
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I was hoping I could use the logitech 400K while using the MHL adapter to TV. I guess I need to spring for a bluetooth keyboard or get the smart dock for 50% off while it is still on sale.

you could however take apart a dock and see how it's built (the Samsung dock allows for both usb and hdmi)
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Been watching that dock and they never seem to have it in stock. My coupon expires 12/13/2012.

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[Q] Hdmi and usb adapters release date/place?

does anyone know when and where sammy will be selling their apple inspired adapters?
Thanks
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-wifi-only-accessories/GT-P7510UWYXAR-product
Get em now.
Greetings all. Just picked up a 10.1 from a local BB. super excited to open it up in a couple of hours.
As far as accessories, can someone verify that the travel charger and the usb cable that came with the 7" galaxy tablet will work with this 10.1" as well?
Any recommended place to get these two from?
cellphoneshop seems to be the place to get some cheap $3-$5 chargers and usb cables.
any other sites?
I refuse to pay the obscene $20 and $35 that samsung is charging for the cables and chargers....
thanks
I believe the 7" tab stuff will work. I'm going to confirm that today after work.
X10D3 said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-wifi-only-accessories/GT-P7510UWYXAR-product
Get em now.
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If you actually try to buy one, you will see they are all backordered.
Hmmm strangely reminiscent of what happened when i got my cappy on launch date, prepare for a couple of months without any accessories or cases available. Oh well...
zaures said:
Hmmm strangely reminiscent of what happened when i got my cappy on launch date, prepare for a couple of months without any accessories or cases available. Oh well...
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Sigh, If thats the case then by tab is going straight back to best buy in a week
The 7 inch tab stuff works fine on the 10.1. The usb adapter is backorder at samsung and does not appear anywhere else.
I went to my local Best Buy this weekend and saw a space for USB connection kit on the shelf. The sales guy couldn't find it in the internal system or on their website though. The SKU was 2837365 and he said it was an accessory previously discontinued for the 7" tab that is coming back for both. Not sure if anybody else saw this. I think I saw someone else posted they saw the same thing at another website forum too.
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Yep.
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I just have a standard 10ft USB Extension cable and the shorty Adapter that came with the kit.. I ordered 2 USB Car adapters that have a 2.1amp and a 1amp slot for charging the tablet on the 2.1amp slot and my phone on the 1amp..
looking forward to the HDMI adapter (not happy about the price)...
Grommish said:
I just have a standard 10ft USB Extension cable and the shorty Adapter that came with the kit.. I ordered 2 USB Car adapters that have a 2.1amp and a 1amp slot for charging the tablet on the 2.1amp slot and my phone on the 1amp..
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Not quite what we're talking about here... The USB adapter is used for connecting thumb drives, external hard drives, etc...
Ahh.. I was thinking car chargers.. without a standard usb port, will it be able to usb host? Def something for me to look into
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Not quite what we're talking about here... The USB adapter is used for connecting thumb drives, external hard drives, etc...
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Grommish said:
Ahh.. I was thinking car chargers.. without a standard usb port, will it be able to usb host? Def something for me to look into
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Yes it will, one of the features of honeycomb is the ability to do USB hosting. I haven't bought it yet, but I believe the keyboard dock has USB ports. Now I don't have any reports saying that anyone has tried it out yet, but thats what I wouldlook in to
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but I believe the keyboard dock has USB ports
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It does NOT have USB ports but does have a pass-through of the 30-min Samsung Connector they "claim" allows you to use the USB -or- HDMI adapters. I have neither to test this but I have the keyboard dock and there is only the 30-min and a headphone jack.

MHL to HDMI adaptor cable

Hello all,
Today I was excited to find a cable that I'd ordered last week from Hong Kong on ebay had arrived.
Micro USB MHL to HDMI Cable Adapter HDTV For Samsung Galaxy S2
Well if it works on the S2 then it probably works on the Note. Well I plugged an HDMI cable into my Dell 1920 x 1200 monitor, that cable into the adapter and then a micro USB power cable into the micro USB power socket of the device.
Doesn't work
Hmm. Its a pretty simple device. Well I tried swapping micro USB cables in case it works differently with MHL or non MHL cables. Still does nothing. Damn.
Maybe it requires particular software to drive the video. Well no joy yet. If anyone has some suggestions then I'm happy to hear them. It was pretty cheap. But I wish it worked...
In case you were thinking of getting one of these. Here is the one that I bought.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140672291111?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1020wt_1141
Are you aware that it needs power? In your case, your device needs to be connected to computer usb (as it said in item description)
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my try as power source an other mirco usb cabel and use the AC - usb adapter
Cable can't too long.
Sent from Taiwan.
I have a similar one to that from China or somewhere and works great, do need to plug in your mains charger for it to work though. Only issue I had was you I needed to screen fit on my telly because it wasn't fitting properly but after I ran that it fit to te screenproperly.
Good news that MHL is working on the note, especially after the news of the Pioneer AppRadio 2.
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and then a micro USB power cable into the micro USB power socket of the device.
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I wasn't clear enough in what I wrote. I plugged in the micro USB power cable into the devices micro USB power socket just like in that picture, so yes I gave that a go but still didn't work
I bought a Menotek brand adapter off Amazon, and it works great for me. My TV luckily had a USB port (for firmware updates), and it powered the device just fine.
i bought one off ebay and according to the seller it is the original one
it works great
but you need to turn off the data (3g) because it causes disconnects on the lcd

Questions about HDMI dock

First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?
What, no buddy here have the HDMI dock?
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First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?
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I read something somewhere that running pre-4.0.4 stock would actually allow the HDMI dock to function as a mirror. I didn't have this with AOKP 4.0.3 however. My phone is limited to just video (Currently 4.0.4 AOKP). I'd love it if I had the option to use the dock for mirroring.
The OTG adapter shouldn't work with the USB port, as it's limited to charging, no data. Says so in the manual for the dock.
Ohh, I just not sure if to cancel the order of MHL adapter, sure it's more handy, and small, so if I go to a friend, I can get the adapter with me...
The thing is, that here: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/23/review-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hdmi-portrait-desktop-dock/
according to manual it say:
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So they recommend to update the ROM to thelatest, but they also say it limited to video only. on other hand, pre 4.0.4....yes you guess it, there was no any dock settings in the ROM, but it worked just like the much cheaper MHL adapter, I already spent some cash on the Pogo Dock, so my microUSB stay still ,
I know it more good looking with the dock, but if it really limited, then **** Samsung.
P.S, can anybody here comment on latest stock 4.0.4? is there same limitation to video only? because, you see, I have HTPC in one room, and watch movies and other stuff with it, so spent money on some sheet I may use from time to time, is stupid, as the Pogo Dock at least save my microUSB port, and even have line out with an option to use optical cable, but the HDMI dock, only can show videos, so why the **** I need it then ? I do see it good with emulators if I not at hotel or something, but if MHL adapter can mirror, and it cost much much less, why buy that dock? also some aftermarket HDMI docks can mirror the screen, like that:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...s_Adapters&hash=item2ebd72c665#ht_2529wt_1859
hell, that thing, can charge, sync, and mirror hdmi, and even can work with phone in a case, **** Samsung guys, aftermarket sometimes can be over 9000 times better that original, to bad there no pogo aftermarket one.
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I have both OEM OTG adapter and MHL adapter for my GNex. I am running IMM76K deodexed, zipaligned. I can view files from flash drive, connect external drive, or do almost anything you can do with a computer using OTG adapter. And I can mirror phone on TV w/ MHL adapter w/sound and everything.
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The thing is, that the phone recognize the dock as a different accessory, not like regular MHL adapter, but most people I asked, on 4.0.4 it not mirror .
anyway I ordered the MHL adapter, and OTG, original Samsung BTW, I will need them just in case, but that case both cost less then that crap dock, but I could not resist not to buy the pogo dock , I know it not cheap, but it a cheap price for working micoUSB port
PS, check Kidigi docks, they support MHL, and even can charge second battery, sync, charge, and fit a phone with a case on it.
I bought the official pogo desktop dock from the Play Store for my GSM Nexus with CM9 nightly on it.
The dock's micro USB port ONLY works for charging!
If you plug it into a computer's USB, it will charge but will not connect, manually even says not to plug it into the computer because it may damage the dock, says to use a charger.
So not sure if OTG will work or not.
I just opened the box. Plugged in a USB drive in the back of the dock, no power is being supplied to the drive. I am not using an OEM Samsung otg cable. If undock and plug in the USB drive straight tot the phone it world no problem.
I will try with a powered HD and ill experiment with mirroring and non video outputs
edit: the dock does work with the OEM extended battery (w/ no case), it's a little tight, but actually fits pretty good

MHL cables with no micro-usb?

I'm looking to buy a MHL cable, so I've been browsing ebay.
I found this one which is nice because its length (4 meters, 13 ft) allows me to be on the couch while having full access to the phone.
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The problem is, my TV doesn't has an USB port, and I don't see any micro-USB female port on that cable.
Am I buying a crippled/broken cable or am I missing something here?
I've seen other MHL cables (3 meters, 10 ft), which look like they have a female micro-USB port (for connecting either the power or the USB cable)... the problem is that they ship from Hong Kong... which takes a whole month to arrive!
1 for phone (micro-USB male), 1 for power/charging (USB Male) and 1 for HDMI port in TV.
I bought this cable and it works perfectly. So I have near TV laptop with USB
HDMI to RCA
Guys will this cable work?
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Black-5FT-Fe...CD_LED_Plasma_Televisions&hash=item3f1f7cc5e9
does not work....
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1 for phone (micro-USB male), 1 for power/charging (USB Male) and 1 for HDMI port in TV.
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That's rigth, the MHL cable needs a power connection, in this case is using the USB connection to do that, the MHL Samsung Original cable needs to connect the AC Adapter or USB cable to works.
You has to have a PC near to connect maybe.
it is simple, really. mhl needs a connected charger.
the cable suggested in the OP seems to be layout to use a tv's usb port, so the power supply will be at the end which also has the hdmi port.
the regular mhl cables, like the samsung original one, are just an 8" cable with required power supply via micro usb (female) at the end of the phone. pro: it also comes with a female hdmi port, so you can vary the length of the cable to match your usage profile, while the other one is fairly hard to extend.
either way, you will need a power supply, either on the side of the phone, or near the tv.
PS: have you thought about using an AC usb power connector for the power supply of the cable in post #1. these are fairly common, cost no more than 1$, and i assume, there is a power outlet near your tv.
HDTV - MHL to HDMI - Galaxy S2
Hello Guys,
i have bought the original Samsung HDTV cable(micro USB to HDMI) and everything appears working good, but suddenly while any video is running on my LCD LG 37LG50 37" TV the image showing just disappear. The screen TV turn off and to recovery video i need to turn off/on TV.
This is a random event and i don´t know what to do anymore. Any idea?
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Hello Guys,
i have bought the original Samsung HDTV cable(micro USB to HDMI) and everything appears working good, but suddenly while any video is running on my LCD LG 37LG50 37" TV the image showing just disappear. The screen TV turn off and to recovery video i need to turn off/on TV.
This is a random event and i don´t know what to do anymore. Any idea?
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What ROM are you using it? Just the Stock ROM has a complete and Working TvOut app. Could be the app too. Can you tell us which app are you use it?

HDMI out on AOSP ROMs

Just curious if anyone knows how to do this. I have a usb to hdmi adapter which I used for hdmi out on the stock Rom, but I have not figured out a kernel/Rom or program which lets me use it on aosp. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have mhl cable and it works with vanilla rootbox.
Works for me as well but I'm only getting 720p output for games and apps, haven't tried vids yet, but can anyone confirm that they get 1080p while running an app or game?
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I have mhl cable and it works with vanilla rootbox.
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I'm using rootbox myself and the cable I use isn't working. Is the cable you're using one continuous cable, or is it an adapter which u plug a usb cable into one end which changes the other end to hdmi?
Its a straight through with battery supply. Got it off amazon for $13
Mine has a slot for a usb charger. Fuzzy does your cable output 1080p for games and apps?
I will get back to you on that after I put my son to bed
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K. so I checked it out and it's only 720
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Its a straight through with battery supply. Got it off amazon for $13
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That sounds like the same cable I'm using. But mine doesn't output anything. Is there a setting on the ROM somewhere I'm missing to make it display?
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I didn't do anything except plug it in and checked out movie I have on phone and I DL HD game from playstore and everything worked. If you go to amazon and search for mhl cable. the one I have has spot to plug in charge to mhl cable and like I said b4 was like $13.
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I didn't do anything except plug it in and checked out movie I have on phone and I DL HD game from playstore and everything worked. If you go to amazon and search for mhl cable. the one I have has spot to plug in charge to mhl cable and like I said b4 was like $13.
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Is this the same cable you're using? I got this one from Amazon myself in November when I bought my phone.
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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Never mind, I got mine to work. Seems it needs the power supply attached for it to work on aosp. But I remember using it without the power supply on stock, oh well as long as it works I'm cool.
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Glad you figured it out
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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I found it...thanks! Just search ASIN B006V7F380 on amazon

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