I've had a note2 since day1 and the spen on my note2 always acted weird at the edge of the screen. It is impossible to draw a straight line on the right side of the screen. It's hard to describe the problem so I actually drew a couple of lines on the right side of the screen as well as on the left side of the screen for comparison. I uploaded a screenshot showing the difference. I want to know if anyone else can test this using their note2 to see whether this is just a limitation of the spen accuracy or if my note2 is defective.
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I cant post a screenshot because usb mass storage mode doesnt work right on linux so id have to email the note i made an i dunno how to do that at this time.
However I tried to make straight lines on the right side moving the spen from lower left to upper right and they had the same hump yours did although not as pronounced.
And then I concentrated and very slowly and deliberately made straight lines again on the right side starting from upper right to lower left and they were near perfect just like the lines on the left side.
My conclusion for what its worth is I think the hum my be a natural variation in your hands movement translated through the stylus. Cause when I really concentrated on drawing a straight line. I did .... no problem.
So I dont think its the device itself. I think your hands wants to naturally curve to the right creating that hump in the point of referrence in the line.
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I cant post a screenshot because usb mass storage mode doesnt work right on linux so id have to email the note i made an i dunno how to do that at this time.
However I tried to make straight lines on the right side moving the spen from lower left to upper right and they had the same hump yours did although not as pronounced.
And then I concentrated and very slowly and deliberately made straight lines again on the right side starting from upper right to lower left and they were near perfect just like the lines on the left side.
My conclusion for what its worth is I think the hum my be a natural variation in your hands movement translated through the stylus. Cause when I really concentrated on drawing a straight line. I did .... no problem.
So I dont think its the device itself. I think your hands wants to naturally curve to the right creating that hump in the point of referrence in the line.
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as much as I'd like to believe that is the case, It wasn't. The first set of lines i drew on the left side, and then i rotated the phone 180 degrees and drew lines on the right side (which is now the left side since its upside down) in the same manner.
Also, its not only S Note that this happens in; this issue also occurs in Sketchbook mobile, Draw something... etc. Basically any app that I can draw with the spen is when this problem becomes noticeable.
Edit: I just tried again using a ruler to try and make a couple of straight lines and the same thing occurred so its definitely not natural variation lol
I get this too. If you go slowly in a straight line you can see the drawing point migrate upwards, deviating from the actual pen point, before coming back down as you near the edge...hence the hump. Software or hardware issue?
Mine occurs much closer to the edge of the screen and less severely though compared to yours. On the s note grid pad the hump peaks at about 2.5units from the edge.
not very noticeable on sketchbook but it's still there. Here are 3 screen shots.
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I'm fairly confident now this is a software problem. I did a factory reset and I can draw straight lines now. However, considering there is no calibration option for the spen, I'm assuming the software "learns" how you write and auto calibrates accordingly. That's probably why over time the center becomes incredibly accurate and the edges start to suck. I could be wrong though.
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I'm fairly confident now this is a software problem. I did a factory reset and I can draw straight lines now. However, considering there is no calibration option for the spen, I'm assuming the software "learns" how you write and auto calibrates accordingly. That's probably why over time the center becomes incredibly accurate and the edges start to suck. I could be wrong though.
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Interesting that a software update fixes it, there's been a few discussions of this (I've been following the Note II since it was announced) on the international Note II forums... And the conclusion they came up with is that the wacom digitizer isn't very accurate near the edges because well, the bezels aren't that large and yet it has to be able to detect like the S-pen hovering, and there was discussion about this being a problem on lots of wacom tablets, etc. Although intresting that yours works now after factory reset
Luckyly I haven't experienced this issue with mine...
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got my note 2 two days ago and it has the same problem on the middle right part of the screen, i don't know whether its from the spen or the screen itself.. has anyone found a solution? i'm gonna take it to the shop today and see if its software related.. otherwise then i'll make them give me a new one :crying:
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Does anyone else think that the G2's hinge is a little flimsy? When I have the keyboard out, the display kind of wiggles in it's hinge.
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Cmon, that has to be the most reported issue about this phone. The hinge is kinda loose or as HTC would say "smooth". Personally it doesn't bug me. I think its just different.
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I'm not talking about the sliding part, I'm talking about the wiggly part when the keyboard is already out. NVM. FORGET IT.
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I'm not talking about the sliding part, I'm talking about the wiggly part when the keyboard is already out. NVM. FORGET IT.
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No, I knew what you meant and experienced this too. It's just how the mechanism works, I guess.
I'm not sure. I was using one at the T-Mobile store. It didn't have the loose hinges nor did it wiggle. My phone has the loose hinges, and it wiggles.
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I'm starting to see that problem! I have 3 G2s! My girl's, my sister's, and mine's. It seems that I'm the only one with that problem. But I also use my phone more than they do!
I went to my T-Mobile store and every one they had on display or as demos had the same loose hinge as my pre-order one. If you picked up the phone by it's top half it would fall open, and if you held just the keyboard half when it was open and angled it toward yourself and gave it a very gentle shake it would close.
Some people are saying that newer ones aren't as loose, but every one I've touched so far has been loose.
Mine is getting that way after 5 days of use now. I couldn't get it to open turning it upside down, and it was very snug and tight. Now turning it upside and it hangs, and when opened and typing it wobbles. Hinge mechanism seems like it'll fail eventually, sooner rather than later sigh.
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Mine is getting that way after 5 days of use now. I couldn't get it to open turning it upside down, and it was very snug and tight. Now turning it upside and it hangs, and when opened and typing it wobbles. Hinge mechanism seems like it'll fail eventually, sooner rather than later sigh.
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Yeah, I am disappointed that I can't trust my device to be knocked up a little.
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I went to my T-Mobile store and every one they had on display or as demos had the same loose hinge as my pre-order one. If you picked up the phone by it's top half it would fall open, and if you held just the keyboard half when it was open and angled it toward yourself and gave it a very gentle shake it would close.
Some people are saying that newer ones aren't as loose, but every one I've touched so far has been loose.
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Why would you go grabbing the half of these phones to test the durability of them? be it top or bottom?...or shaking it...I do not understand that.
That's the problem though, it's not even really getting knocked up. I can only imagine if it falls from anywhere! It's been in my pocket or resting on a table or desk, outside of it in my hands for usage. And just that normal usage in a mere 5 days is causing the hinge to loosen it seems, at least from how it was out of the box. That does not bode well for its lifespan :/
this seems to be happening to alot of ppl! mine does it too, if im laying down and txting i have to have it exactly horizontal if i tilt it forward the screen will just fall...has anyone heard anything official from tmobile or htc about this? if its normal or not? it might just be normal so the keyboard can open really smoothly but then i cant txt laying down lol
you gust must have faulty G2's my phone is solid, no hinge issue at all
I am on my second G2 and it has the same problems only worse as the first one does and did. The hinge is so loose on this one after 1 day that at a restaurant I went to pick it up off of the table and the keyboard just slid out. I am also concerned about the durability of the hinges as in just one day it has gone from a little loose to real Loose. The keyboard now seems to have more give to it. I do like this phone but am undecided as to whether to keep it or not.
I just spotted a very tiny black dot above the earpiece on the bezel (not the screen) on my note 2; like a mark left by the tip of someone's permanent marker at the China factory. It only looks prominent at particular viewing angles and lighting conditions. This might vary from device to device. Is this normal? Am I being too anal?
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I just spotted a very tiny black dot above the proximity sensor on the bezel (not the screen) on my note 2; like a mark left by the tip of someone's permanent marker at the China factory. It only looks prominent at particular viewing angles and lighting conditions. This might vary from device to device. Is this normal? Am I being too anal?
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picture? is it possible?
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It looks smaller than you think. (between edge of bezel and glass), if you reflect your own Note 2 in the light you might notice somewhat of the same
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Its not too prominent in cases like the following below---
It's hardly distinguishable.
Please let me know.
I see what you mean... well I have the I317 and the T889 (AT&T and T-Mo Note 2) non show that kind of marks... but... the I317 when using an app like "dead pixel test" when I put the screen black... I see some dark spots, lines in the screen... really strange... only noticeable on very dark screen... is like your description... like a black marker on the backside of the LCD... you will never see it unless you have your screen completely black an know what you are looking for...)
Well, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the bezel. My AMOLED display is perfect, no blobs, lines, vertical / horizontal lines, no tint whatsoever; I am extremely happy seeing a flawless display compared to many Note 2 Verizon and AT&T owners that complained about the dark spots you are talking about. I don't have them at all.
I just have a tiny mark on my bezel which appears to look like it was done by a permanent marker. I don't see any dent. I don't know if this mark is an imperfection, or if I am just being too anal. What do you all think?
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I see what you mean... well I have the I317 and the T889 (AT&T and T-Mo Note 2) non show that kind of marks... but... the I317 when using an app like "dead pixel test" when I put the screen black... I see some dark spots, lines in the screen... really strange... only noticeable on very dark screen... is like your description... like a black marker on the backside of the LCD... you will never see it unless you have your screen completely black an know what you are looking for...)
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Lol, sorry for any misunderstanding, no attitude intended. I bolded the word bezel in my last post because it seemed like you were talking about the display in respect to my device, lol.
Could it be that I am being too picky about a tiny mark?
I have the same thing on the top left bezel and on the right side bezel. But I really can't tell weather it is an imperfection, indentation or what. But like you said its only visible under certain lighting and at certain angles. But since I am OCD, it just drives me crazy knowing that they are there. I'll probably end up getting some kind of case that has a thick lip to cover the bezel area (the Seidio Active case) just so I will not be able to see those spots when using the phone.
Thank you very much for your acknowledgement. Its safe to say this is normal then. It doesn't seem to be an imperfection. There is no dent, and I can see the chrome in those areas as well. May be a little bit too much chrome. These plastic phones definitely deserve a case, no doubt. :good:
looks like other XDA members are more concerned of the phone's performance over aesthetics, lol,
Cheers
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I have the same thing on the top left bezel and on the right side bezel. But I really can't tell weather it is an imperfection, indentation or what. But like you said its only visible under certain lighting and at certain angles. But since I am OCD, it just drives me crazy knowing that they are there. I'll probably end up getting some kind of case that has a thick lip to cover the bezel area (the Seidio Active case) just so I will not be able to see those spots when using the phone.
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After receiving my new Note 3 a few days ago and setting it up I hadn't even really used the s-pen until yesterday. I noticed that vertically down the middle of the display from top to bottom there is about a 1/4 inch area that the s-pen 'avoids' or 'skips across' when swiping it from side to side. At first I thought maybe it was just the pen tip, so I replaced it. It's hard to explain but the effect I get when hovering it across this area is almost like a magnet avoiding another magnet, it jumps across in front of itself (the dot) and will simply not work properly in this area. Let me try to explain like this: If I were drawing a line on the screen from the bottom left corner to the top right, when I get to this 'magnetic' or 'dead' area the line no longer becomes diagonal but skips up vertically then jumps across to the other side of the dead spot, then lets me continue drawing the diagonal line to the top right corner.. Make sense?
From what I read on howstuff works, the waycom stylus and screens work with some sort of a magnetic field, which would explain why the effect i'm getting is like holding two magnets with same charges they repel, if in fact it's a defective area on the magnetic field under the glass surface.. (Howstuffworks Source)
Is it the wacom layer of the display? I am not using a magnetic case or anything else of the sort. I debated calling T-Mobile and trying to explain this to a customer service rep, and I figure it will be near impossible to get my point across. I am considering just going to the T-Mobile store down the street and trying to get a replacement.
Is anyone else experiencing this phenomenon? Test your screen with the diagonal line test and see for yourself. I'm curious as to this being a rare defect or a more common one. I'm considering putting up a video because it's so weird..
Edit: I have attached a screenshot to display the dead area that the line skips across sideways.. with the action memo, draw something 2 and sketchbook to diagram the avoidance area on the screen
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I tried recreating that and I didn't get the same results. I used both snote and sketchbook
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I tried recreating that and I didn't get the same results. I used both snote and sketchbook
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I'm fairly certain it's just something bad in my unit.. Thanks for making the attempt though
Yeah try to exchange. Definitely defective.
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Well I called and explained the problem to the tech support rep. Thankfully they were also an owner of the note 3 and were sympathetic to the issue and understood what I meant. Replacement on the way, hopefully the original post is helpful to others experiencing odd problems with their spen and display..
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Well I called and explained the problem to the tech support rep. Thankfully they were also an owner of the note 3 and were sympathetic to the issue and understood what I meant. Replacement on the way, hopefully the original post is helpful to others experiencing odd problems with their spen and display..
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I'm curious on how you replaced the tip so quickly.
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I'm curious on how you replaced the tip so quickly.
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tips should have been included with your note 3. You just pull out the one in your pen, and push in a new one. simple.
I've disassembled my note 4 and after putting it back together there were two strips on the screen where the spen couldn't write after *#0*# and testing wacom layer it turned out it didn't work (in those two mentioned strips).
Apparently the adhesive (the dumb manufacturing engineers at samsung) used for securing the glass in the frame prevented the gorilla glass from properly aligning on the frame. After I heated up the glass and clamped it to the frame for a few minutes the wacom layer started working again!
Apparently the layer doesn't work/has difficulty working properly when the glass is skewed/not aligned (or sth). Thought I share this in case sb else had a similar issue.
I have a nice circular spot in my screen that is a dead zone for the pen. Works fine for touch input though.
Just for future references, if you go to phone keypad and type *#0*# you will get diagnostic screen with various tests of all the hardware inside, including Viacom test and spen hovering. This may not work with some custom roms.
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Just for future references, if you go to phone keypad and type *#0*# you will get diagnostic screen with various tests of all the hardware inside, including Viacom test and spen hovering. This may not work with some custom roms.
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It didn't work with Dominion rom. Ended up getting fixed with the battery pull I did to get my new SView cover working.
Possible fix
For those who still own a Galaxy Note 3, and have either a GPS issue, or this s-pen issue, (I had both simulataneously) this video (although in another language than English) Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 bad GPS Signal SOLVED (can't post vid link because XDA thinks it is potential spam since this is my first comment ever here) is what I did for GPS fix. At the 5:10 mark, or so he is gently levering up those little connectors/stems. They don't make good contact. Earlier in the video he shows how something gets disconnected. That's obvious. On the other side of the phone) is similar connectors/stems. I did the same thing to those.
I put it all back together. GPS works and s-pen dead spots are gone. Also, I blew clean ports and the board with photo air blower. Forgive any wrong terminology.
Hope this helps someone.
Hello everyone. So I'm new to t mo. I switched over from sprint. I picked up a galaxy note 3 last friday. I exchanged it today due to some freezing issues it was having. The new one I have is flawless, but surprisingly I notice some hardware differences from my last note.
This new exchange note 3 has a hole with a black plug to the right of the headphone jack, the original didnt. This one also has a small hole on the bottom right corner. Looks like a microphone hole, but slightly bigger.
Anyone have these on theirs? I'm wondering if it's a new hardware revision vs the old one without the holes. Maybe they help with reception ?
Anyone else also have these strange holes, one to the right of the head phone jack with a black plug, and one a small on to the bottom right corner of the phone.?
Also neither is a microphone hole because that's at the bottom left.
Thanks for the replies!
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From what I know. They're both mics. Something to do with noise canceling.
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Top one is extra mic for noise cancelation. There should not be a plug. The bottom right one is supposed to be humidity and something else sensor. Some people say it is third noise cancelation mic but I don't think so. And one on bottom is correct. Main microphone hole.
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dandan112988 said:
Hello everyone. So I'm new to t mo. I switched over from sprint. I picked up a galaxy note 3 last friday. I exchanged it today due to some freezing issues it was having. The new one I have is flawless, but surprisingly I notice some hardware differences from my last note.
This new exchange note 3 has a hole with a black plug to the right of the headphone jack, the original didnt. This one also has a small hole on the bottom right corner. Looks like a microphone hole, but slightly bigger.
Anyone have these on theirs? I'm wondering if it's a new hardware revision vs the old one without the holes. Maybe they help with reception ?
Anyone else also have these strange holes, one to the right of the head phone jack with a black plug, and one a small on to the bottom right corner of the phone.?
Also neither is a microphone hole because that's at the bottom left.
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Top is an IR port for controlling IR devices (TV, DVR, DVD etc)
The other is a second microphone which combine for noise-canceling. All note 3's should have them and in the manual for the device.
^^^ yeah what he said. Forgot the IR port thingy. It is further to the right side of phone. The small hole next to headphone jack is noise cancelation.
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From my understanding the hole at the bottom right is not a third mic, it is for the thermometer and barometer.
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From my understanding the hole at the bottom right is not a third mic, it is for the thermometer and barometer.
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Correct. I just tested this with a thermometer app and when I put my finger over the hole, the temp rose accordingly. Neat! I didn't know our phones had a temp sensor
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Correct. I just tested this with a thermometer app and when I put my finger over the hole, the temp rose accordingly. Neat! I didn't know our phones had a temp sensor
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FWIW, you don't need a separate app for that. You can use your dialer to access the "secret" samsung test menu by dialing "*#0*#", and then click Sensors. Temperature graphing is at the bottom.
edit: Guess I shouldn't have blown hot air on the hole for so long... as my humidity sensors been stuck at 100% for too long...... and... now it's dropping (phew)
Didnt know we had temp reader . Sweet. Although id rather use an app for that than fumble with the dialer and have to remember a code.
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Didn't know we had temp reader . Sweet. Although id rather use an app for that than fumble with the dialer and have to remember a code.
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There is an app for that: S-Health; When you drop the menu down and select "Comfort Level" it provides Temp & Humidity as they relate to "Human Thermal Comfort" (ISO/FDIS 7730:2005) I find it amusing that people would rely on any device to tell them is they are comfortable, but the purpose is valid; to let you know factors that would affect a workout.
On another note, I was shocked how many Tech Reviews were stating the hole on the bottom right was "another" microphone, meanwhile they kept comparing the device to the S4, so for kick I would check the S4 review, and THERE they seemed to know it was a sensor. Strange.
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There is an app for that: S-Health; When you drop the menu down and select "Comfort Level" it provides Temp & Humidity as they relate to "Human Thermal Comfort" (ISO/FDIS 7730:2005) I find it amusing that people would rely on any device to tell them is they are comfortable, but the purpose is valid; to let you know factors that would affect a workout.
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In the disability community that kind of information can be invaluable if you can't feel if it is comfortable or not. Software can make use of the sensors to warn a user that they may be approaching a dangerous level of heat and humidity that they themselves may not be aware of.
Today I found something interesting.
My first N3 was a white 900T, the back had no stampings and the home button was the one that could shift and look un-even, basically what all note 3 have. My N9005 was also this way & my 900P too.
Today I received another 900T which took some heritage from the NOTE 2 & has the silver living with the same kind of button used in the N2 that could not slide around and makes it tighter. This one also has the body stamped with device model # in the plastic unlike any of the other N3 which did not. It is also now Stamped TM in grey on the bottom. The Blacks are also not as sharp on the new N3 screen is more washed out but barely.... But I dont know if that is the glass screen protector or not.
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Today I found something interesting.
My first N3 was a white 900T, the back had no stampings and the home button was the one that could shift and look un-even, basically what all note 3 have. My N9005 was also this way & my 900P too.
Today I received another 900T which took some heritage from the NOTE 2 & has the silver living with the same kind of button used in the N2 that could not slide around and makes it tighter. This one also has the body stamped with device model # in the plastic unlike any of the other N3 which did not. It is also now Stamped TM in grey on the bottom. The Blacks are also not as sharp on the new N3 screen is more washed out but barely.... But I dont know if that is the glass screen protector or not.
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Can you post pics of what you're referring to please? It's hard to tell what you're talking about just from your description.
Also, my Note 3 doesn't have a problem with the home button shifting.
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Can you post pics of what you're referring to please? It's hard to tell what you're talking about just from your description.
Also, my Note 3 doesn't have a problem with the home button shifting.
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some home buttons can develop an issue where the corners go limp and also. If you put your fingers to each side of button you can wiggle it pretty decently. But this note has the style from note 2 has 0 wiggle like all the other note 3 and looks nicer
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if you take your battery door off does the plastic on the bottom say 900t and some numbers? And also stamped TM? It would be to the right of the metal square. Theres an N2 pic ill take n3 one soon.
I tried to knife it off incase it was a sticker but it turned out not to be.
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some home buttons can develop an issue where the corners go limp and also. If you put your fingers to each side of button you can wiggle it pretty decently. But this note has the style from note 2 has 0 wiggle like all the other note 3 and looks nicer
if you take your battery door off does the plastic on the bottom say 900t and some numbers? And also stamped TM? It would be to the right of the metal square. Theres an N2 pic ill take n3 one soon.
I tried to knife it off incase it was a sticker but it turned out not to be.
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Now that you point it out, my Note 3 does have info stamped in two places under the battery cover. On the bottom in the center to the left of the silver square it says N900T_#1-3 and it does say TM under that. But also on the top right, next to the SIM slot, it says N900A/T#4-1. I wonder what those numbers mean.
But my home button is pretty secure besides it moving up and down when I press it.
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Now that you point it out, my Note 3 does have info stamped in two places under the battery cover. On the bottom in the center to the left of the silver square it says N900T_#1-3 and it does say TM under that. But also on the top right, next to the SIM slot, it says N900A/T#4-1. I wonder what those numbers mean.
But my home button is pretty secure besides it moving up and down when I press it.
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Its most likely just factory stuff so workers can know which pieces go on which revisions. I guess some models are special snowflakes since they are so close together it was probably built in unison at same factory. Others like 900P did not have the stampings....nor did my first 900T.
The button thing is just....plain weird though
Isn't that a pic of a Note 2? The bezel looks like a Note 2 and the it doesn't look like a 3.0 connector either. The 3.0 connector is about as wide as the home button.
Looks just like this Note 2 to me.
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Have you seen a note 3, check the picture. tell me your self the difference.
Did...nobody notice "Theres an N2 pic ill take n3 one soon."
Sorry no, I guess the "theres" through me off.