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Playing with the Desire rom on my HTC HD2 and have hit some questions that I need to google for answers. I'm hoping for some help to see what normal is & what can be tweaked & so on.
- When my device is off and I get a sms page, I get a sound notification & a vibration - but the screen doesn't turn on. Is this normal or a bug in the way I am using the rom on my HD2?
- When I turn on the device, on the lock screen I see a bit of the missed page - but no way I can see to jump to the sms message. I can just unlock the phone & manually go see what it was. Would like a 1-step solution. This normal?
- The hardware buttons at the bottom of my device can light up (and do in Windows Mobile) but not running Droid. Once again, dunno if it's a bug in the way I'm using Droid or if the Desire simply doesn't have light up hardware buttons.
- I check a few web pages daily for WinMo news & new apps. Anyone have recommendations of must read Android web pages?
I know I had some others that I've forgotten already.
I will be researching these questions myself (as 3 kids 3 & under permit) & if I find answers I will post them myself. Thanks for your time.
First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.
steve228uk said:
First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.
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Thanks. Much better then trying to figure out a bug.
Good time for me to look into lock screen replacements. Any suggestions?
Edit:
Made this my research project of the night - going to test out WidgetLocker Lockscreen.
Program launcher question - I dislike the big list of programs all mixed together. I'd like to make a folder/subfolder structure so I click on the main button, then pick games (possibly then breaking it down into game types, etc).
Are their apps that replace the program launcher portion without replacing the whole home screen?
If not, how about a program that is just a stand alone launcher? IE - I run the program from a shortcut & get the feature I'm looking for?
Found one that does it perfectly - 'Folder Organizer'
Also like the WidgetLocker lockscreen. Love using the Photo Gallery widgets that cycle through pix every 30 minutes.
Little by little I'm getting there.
I took me a while to get used to it too but you have to adopt the homescreens for your favourite apps where you can have folders, icons, widgets, and shortcuts. I only ever dive into the app drawer for the odd app I rarely used but like Calculator.
If you click Menu > List it'll alphabetise it and you can scroll using the bar too!
Just want to give a couple of suggestions for sites to check out to keep up-to-date on Android news.
www.engadget.com - Sure, they cover a vast number of topics but I find that they report a lot of the top Android news as well. Plus, it's always good to stay informed with other tech stuff.
www.pocketnow.com - These guys used to be strictly a Windows Mobile site. But they've since expanded their coverage to include Android and Apple stuff. Lots of good videos on their youtube channel.
www.androidcentral.com - Strictly Android-only site. They give decent App recommendations from time to time.
Quick question - when I pull the power to my phone (say after charging @ night) - it turns on! Any setting to keep it from turning itself on when I pull the power out?
I've never had it turn on if it was off!
its a shame to have the soft keys display while youre playing a game or watching a video. Any way to make them disappear completely and get a true full screen experience?
i was thinking maybe configuring it so that you gently tap the power button to make them go away(come back) & for normal power button use do a long press instead.
Probably a pointless bump/post from me, but this is something that I'd really like to have too.
Soft buttons sounded cool, but after getting the phone, they seem to be somewhat permanent and not particularly customisable either.
Videos seem to be the only application where they hide, but even then, simply tapping the screen _anywhere_ brings them back up again (even with screen control lock enabled).
I watch videos with subtitles and being a slow reader, tend to pause videos fairly regularly. It's annoying to have the video bounce around when I do so because of the soft buttons popping up.
Really would appreciate if anyone knows of a method to kill these soft buttons!
Yep I would love this as well, an option to enable this feature.
It would auto hide the soft keys, then a swipe up from the bottom will overlay the keys on top of the existing screen (so the app isn't resizing itself - like HD videos do when the keys come back).
Then we can use the full smexy 4.65" screen and real 720p.
it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
Dice Player was the first to add this and when you play videos, it automatically goes fullscreen and then a tap brings the buttons back.
i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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it is up to the developer of the app to add the full screen code.
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I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
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i don't think that any mod or app could do it. You could probably make a mod that forces them to always hide in landscape, but the problem would be that they're always gone, even when you want them there.
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Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
i would love a rom that has a setting where i can choose certain apps that can hide the buttons on whatever apps i want. that would be awesome. dont know if its possible. especially on slingplayer. its a $30 app which rarely gets updated. who knows when they will update it. its a good thing i sideloaded it and didnt pay for it. i dont see how it can work on games though because tapping the screen is the way to get the buttons there. unless there is some sort of gesture to bring em back. i do think we will see a lot more out of soft buttons but it will take a while.
youtube seemingly does this for me....
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
／人◕‿‿ ◕人＼ said:
I presume that an app can only indicate that the buttons should be hidden, and really doesn't have much more control than that?
So basically, unusable in games.
Surely there must be some sort of modification (even if it needs to go back to the kernel (forgive my ignorance if I'm totally off)) to allow us to do it?
I can understand that an app is restricted to the API provided to it, which is why I think an OS level mod needs to be done here.
I get it that this could be less convenient / more confusing, so believe that this shouldn't be in a stock ROM, but if I want to mod my phone this way, I should be able to, right?
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i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
i would also like a ability to hide them!
I think it would be cool if the soft keys had a transparent backround maybe the buttons could fade to dots like I have seen them do.
neok44 said:
i don't think so. the code is there to hide them, but in video apps they show back up on simply a touch. The game developers could add code to say that they only come up when you press pause. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.
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I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
neok44 said:
on a system level i'm sure it could be done, but as we've both said. it'll be much less convenient and more confusing.
heres an example, what happens if you enable that to play a game full screen, but that game has no exit option. You now have no way out of the game. The only way to get back to your homescreen is to shut off the phone.
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Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
neok44 said:
so then, another mod would be required, you'd need a link to the home screen from the powermenu.
so your already up to two mods to do something that most people would not want.
The better thing is to just have the keys dim when playing a game like they do in honeycomb, and not just disappear.
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I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
i dont have a problem with them, they hide automatically on things like netflix and need for speed shift...
Galaxy Nexus Stock
／人◕‿‿ ◕人＼ said:
I haven't looked at the API, I'm just going on a hunch from what I've seen how apps react.
For example, if apps had such control over the buttons, why would they still show on touch even if screen control locking is enabled? Just a bug in the application, or perhaps just cannot be done?
Take the example in the first post - erhaps an option to toggle the buttons in the power menu.
One would presume that if you're playing a game, you're not looking to exit it every minute, so it's not like you exactly need a convenient exit button. If the toggle is done through the power menu, then it makes logical sense to go back there if you with to show the buttons again.
Of course, there'll probably be people who forget about where they turned off the buttons, so yes, slightly more confusing to newbies, but if there's a custom mod which allows this type of functionality, it would be really helpful to those who do understand. (after all, if you've gone to the effort to enable such a mod, you're sure to know about it)
I'm not sure about the "two mods" proposition - you can't really have one without the other so I'd think it would be classed as one, but I don't really want to debate about semantics here (neither can I really say anything about low level requirements to perform this mod).
As for most people not wanting it, perhaps, though I think the responses in this thread shows that there are people out there interested in this, and it's not only me. The value proposition is up to someone else to decide though.
Dimming the keys does not enable more screen space, which is the whole point of completely hiding them.
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honestly not sure. could be a bug or how it'd designed. since the galaxy nexus has no other way of letting you control it, most likely it's designed so that theres no way to perminately hide them.
If you added an option in the power menu to show/hide them, then that would make it just one mod. The two mods idea was just one to make them always hide in fullscreen apps, and then another one that would give you a home link in the power menu.
but having a link in the power menu to show/hide the buttons is actually a better idea. assuming it would work. And doing it this way would allow you an easy way to turn them on and off.
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This is the closes I can get it to hide, but it's still not full screen on games. Changed the color to black. It blends in with the background, but the highlighted button press is still there. Like hidden buttons.
Using Codename Android 1.0.1 ROM, it has the option to change the color built in, as does AOKP ROM.
RogerPodacter said:
I too think its a total waste having the buttons never move or disappear. Its a great concept, but google didnt take advantage of it at all. I just find it wasting space. Would love if they could be hidden.
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actually google did take advantage of it. they added it to their own apps like youtube and gallery during video. and on other apps like phone during a call and gallery viewing pictures they hide.
I want to see notifications alone in the notification shade and I want to drag my quick settings from the bottom. Both having blur screen effect.
This makes the phone more simpler and easy to use. I know that there are various apps to provide this functionality in the play store, but none of them are perfect nor good. Many of them close and cause some or other problems. So, I want this feature to be embedded in the system.
Can any developer provide this feature, this would be awesome. This is a great feature in the old Hydrogen OS, but recently they dropped it. I wish there is a generous friend out there to help..
Hello xda
is there any way to have the navigation bar like the old galaxy tabs, that can orient with screen rotation in all 4side of the screen???????
You know its difficult to use the home,back and recent apps button in only one aide of the screen, and the back button allways disappear in the dark
But if its gonna have the software navigation bar, it will be so much easier to work with. ...,
also i used some app that provides the same nav bar , but it come over the screen and some button hide behind it....,
Thanx alot guys
Try using: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270198
I have used it for a long time now, and I cannot live without it at this point. I love it because it not only follows orientation, but it can auto-hide too. Also, once you have that all squared away there's a tutorial on here somewhere that will show you how to (just by editing your build prop file) disable the hardware buttons all together.
Then, (also on here) there's an app that allows you to totally disable touch iput, except the Spen. Not that you are interested, but oust thought I would share how I have mine setup. Good luck!
samandhi said:
Try using: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270198
I have used it for a long time now, and I cannot live without it at this point. I love it because it not only follows orientation, but it can auto-hide too. Also, once you have that all squared away there's a tutorial on here somewhere that will show you how to (just by editing your build prop file) disable the hardware buttons all together.
Then, (also on here) there's an app that allows you to totally disable touch iput, except the Spen. Not that you are interested, but oust thought I would share how I have mine setup. Good luck!
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Hi
thanx alot
its awesome,
ive already tried so many apps, but this one is great
Thanx for ur help bro
So I'm a (mostly) happy owner of a new Tab S4 SM-T830 256 gb tablet. My old tablet was a 64 gb Tab S2. I was excited about the hardware upgrades. I use my tablet in place of a laptop, and was starting to notice the speed and memory lags.
I'm having problems with three "features"
1) No fingerprint scanner. I wear glasses. Strong glasses. Progressive lenses. I turned on Samsung Pass, but it isn't clear to me if this works with external apps (like my banking app), or just within the Samsung Internet Browser.
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
3) Multiple peaves with the floating navigation bar. I'd like it to lock to the short side of the screen, like hard buttons do. But it stays horizontal. It takes up a lot of expensive real estate - can I add other shortcut buttons to it? In the best of all worlds, could you make it part of the docking bar?
3A) This is the most annoying "feature". I use SwiftKey for my keyboard app. Even though I have the navigation bar set to hide, any time I pull up the keyboard, there is the navigation bar. Right under the space bar. I can't tell you how many times I've missed the space far and hit one of the navigation buttons.
3B) This may be due to the wide-screen format of the tablet, but when you bring up the keyboard in landscape, and add in a cm for the navigation bar, it takes up 3/4 of the screen.
Any other thoughts, tips, tricks for migrating from a Tab S2 to an S4 are appreciated!
Thanks,
Joe
I've been using Samsung Pass on my Note 9 and now on the Tab S4. It seems to work almost anywhere: Apps & Browser. Although, not consistently. Still better than nothing. I also have Lastpass and it is a little annoying that I can't use iris scanner for that, but it gives you the option to use a PIN on the S4, which helps a little.
I just installed an app called simple control (On the Playstore). I have heard it works well for the Nav Bar issue, but I haven't tried it yet.
I can't speak to the other issues though, as I'v only had the Tab for 2 days.
As already mentioned, I also use Lastpass. I disabled Samsung pass for now as with Lastpass I can use on multiple devices. As far as the dock in Nova, not sure what's going on with that. I also find that annoying that it doesn't rotate either, thus I got rid of it. I just disabled it and placed my common icons right on the desktop. Then I added a shortcut icon to open the App Drawer. It rotates, so kind of like having the dock. In regards to the Navigation bar, try Samsung's One Handed Operation App in the Galaxy Store. It's a nice alternative to the Navigation bar. I wasn't sure I would like it at first but now use it exclusively. Thus I also now hide the standard Nav bar.
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So I'm a (mostly) happy owner of a new Tab S4 SM-T830 256 gb tablet. My old tablet was a 64 gb Tab S2. I was excited about the hardware upgrades. I use my tablet in place of a laptop, and was starting to notice the speed and memory lags.
I'm having problems with three "features"
1) No fingerprint scanner. I wear glasses. Strong glasses. Progressive lenses. I turned on Samsung Pass, but it isn't clear to me if this works with external apps (like my banking app), or just within the Samsung Internet Browser.
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
3) Multiple peaves with the floating navigation bar. I'd like it to lock to the short side of the screen, like hard buttons do. But it stays horizontal. It takes up a lot of expensive real estate - can I add other shortcut buttons to it? In the best of all worlds, could you make it part of the docking bar?
3A) This is the most annoying "feature". I use SwiftKey for my keyboard app. Even though I have the navigation bar set to hide, any time I pull up the keyboard, there is the navigation bar. Right under the space bar. I can't tell you how many times I've missed the space far and hit one of the navigation buttons.
3B) This may be due to the wide-screen format of the tablet, but when you bring up the keyboard in landscape, and add in a cm for the navigation bar, it takes up 3/4 of the screen.
Any other thoughts, tips, tricks for migrating from a Tab S2 to an S4 are appreciated!
Thanks,
Joe
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I use Samsung Pass & LastPass in conjuction.
So far both works perfectly on any apps & website.
I used to use Nova Launcher but in this Tab S4, I skip it because I think it has everything I need...and I also installed some apps to give more functional effects.
Those apps are: Rotation Control, Blockada & Internet Speed Meter
But if you really want a floating NavBar you can just activate its built in Floating Navbar called Assistant Menu
It's located in the Accessibility>Dexterity and interaction section
A & B : I don't use Swiftkey, but I use Samsung Keyboard in conjuction with Tab S4 Keyboard Cover.
You can resize Samsung Keyboard to your liking and if you use Tab S4 for typing I recommend you buy its Keyboard cover as it is a very good physical keyboard.
I hope my answer helps & if you still have any questions just ask me.
Solution for #2
2) I use Nova Launcher. On the Tab S2, the dock bar stayed horizontal on the bottom of the display when you rotated the tablet. For the S4 the dock seems to be locked to the short side of the screen.
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I managed to solve this with the help of another thread . You need to go to the Display settings for the device and change the zoom to the smallest value. You'll find that the dock will now show at the bottom when you switch to landscape.
Thank you so much! That fixed the dock! I appreciate you taking the time to point out the post I missed!
Take care,
Joe
cryptonium said:
I managed to solve this with the help of another thread . You need to go to the Display settings for the device and change the zoom to the smallest value. You'll find that the dock will now show at the bottom when you switch to landscape.
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