Att Note ll vs Verizon's? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

I'm thinking about getting a note 2 but I was wondering what's the difference when it comes to rooting the phablet? Signal wise I'll get better coverage with Verizon so I'm leaning more toward the big red.
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htc-vene12 said:
I'm thinking about getting a note 2 but I was wondering what's the difference when it comes to rooting the phablet? Signal wise I'll get better coverage with Verizon so I'm leaning more toward the big red.
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I guess it's different where ever you are. I have a device on both phones and there are times my note gets better service and there are times my Verizon gets better service.
Beyond that. I don't think you would see much of a difference if you rooted the bad boy.
A lot of Verizon owners have complained about the Verizon logo on the home button but that's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.
Verizon 4glte is sweet but atts is faster in my tests. Hope this helps.
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
Current Roms: Jedi XP 9 (Note 2), AOKP (Galaxy Nexus), Nexus 7 Stock

Probably a typical xda answer, but 'it depends' on where you will be using your phone. Poke around the Verizon GN2 forum (I assume you posted the same question there) and see how people like it. You might also want to base your decision on how active the AT&T and Verizon GN2 forums are if you plan to root/install a custom ROM.

Have you seen much difference between at&t and verizon connection indoors (both cellular and 3g). Also how abuot voice clarity? People claim that verizon has better reception indoors (due to lower spectrum) but i'm curious what you are seeing with your phones. I'm tempted to switch to at&t (from verizon) but bit concern that voice quality will suffer as will reception when I'm indoors (I live and work in the city; and while boston is not new york; it also isn't the plains of iowa).
Bsmith0731 said:
I guess it's different where ever you are. I have a device on both phones and there are times my note gets better service and there are times my Verizon gets better service.
Beyond that. I don't think you would see much of a difference if you rooted the bad boy.
A lot of Verizon owners have complained about the Verizon logo on the home button but that's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.
Verizon 4glte is sweet but atts is faster in my tests. Hope this helps.
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
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jake21 said:
Have you seen much difference between at&t and verizon connection indoors (both cellular and 3g). Also how abuot voice clarity? People claim that verizon has better reception indoors (due to lower spectrum) but i'm curious what you are seeing with your phones. I'm tempted to switch to at&t (from verizon) but bit concern that voice quality will suffer as will reception when I'm indoors (I live and work in the city; and while boston is not new york; it also isn't the plains of iowa).
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I can't say which one has an edge. I'd almost always chose at&t here cause you can browse and be on the phone at the same time where as Verizon if you aren't on 4g you can't do it without a htc.
I definitely use Verizon more for the phone calls and I think their 4g is more accessible.
It's an even split for me.
If it helps. I believe I've had more dropped calls with at&t but that's common with them.
As far as Indoors.. I don't see Verizon being better or worse in that department. That too depends on where you are I believe.
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
Current Roms: Jedi XP 9 (Note 2), AOKP (Galaxy Nexus), Nexus 7 Stock

ATT model also gives you the ability to go to other gsm carriers if you dont like their service. Ie tmobile.
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Thanks for the replies guys for what I've seen Verizons signal around my area is better than at&ts so I'm going vzw. Anything is better than sprint
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htc-vene12 said:
Thanks for the replies guys for what I've seen Verizons signal around my area is better than at&ts so I'm going vzw. Anything is better than sprint
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I'll say lol sprint sucks
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
Current Roms: Jedi XP 9 (Note 2), AOKP (Galaxy Nexus), Nexus 7 Stock

I have verizon; one thing I will comment (other than verizon analality at locking things) is that 3g on verizon sucks. The 4g signal is pretty strong but when it is not there things crawl.
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I'll say lol sprint sucks
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
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jake21 said:
I have verizon; one thing I will comment (other than verizon analality at locking things) is that 3g on verizon sucks. The 4g signal is pretty strong but when it is not there things crawl.
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I agree with that 100 percent.
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I just switched from Verizon. My wife's phone was first back in July (S3). I have noticed since switching that AT&T's 4gLTE is faster than Verizon. Plus I like having a 4g signal as a second drop back. Verizon all you have is 3g.
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Verizon note 2 doesn't have wireless charging functionality. Also b home button has Verizon logo. From what I read from Verizon forum boot loader is also locked and latest update will brick your phone if you have custom software.
I'd go with ATT note 2 if I were you. That's my 2 cents
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To check your best coverage at home, work, relatives, got to the market and download the 4g,cdma,lte,gsm,wifi coverage maps app from Sensorly. You enter the address and you can see the coverage of the carriers you want.
Verizon also puts more bloatware on your phones than AT&T. Having had their Droids in the past, the locked bootloaders on Verizon are a huge pain. You have to put off updating until the exploit is found.
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If I were you I'd get the AT&T version simply for the fact that of you have coverage your data will not be slow. With Verizon that's not always guaranteed. In many instances I've seen my HSPA+ pull faster speeds than Verizon's LTE. Photo is case and point. Then there's also the matter of root accessibility and that hideous logo on the home button.
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How likely do you think an ATT Nexus is?

which carrier do you think is better......
At&t is the least "Android friendly" carrier so I would kind of be surprised. I know in the 3+ years I had them I hated every minute of it. I am soo happy with VZW and will never go back. I also know that this is only my experience and reception differs through out the country, but in Northern AL VZW is the only carrier worth having if you actually want a working device - I have full coverage and LTE almost everywhere I go. With At&t I had a bar and edge. Doesnt At&t have LTE in like 12 major cities only? What is the point?
EDIT: Yes VZW is more expensive but its worth it to me to actually be able to use my phone.
I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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Mrglass86 said:
I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.
I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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Nah, Verizon never did that. They like to bloat things up, but they do not lockdown sideloading or anything like that. Nor do they use CIQ like Sprint does on some of their devices.
adrynalyne said:
For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.
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^^THIS^^
AND THEN.. You have AT&T disabling HSPA on their Android phones but leaving it enabled on the iDevices, all the time marketing their Androids as HSPA CAPABLE. They are unethical liars.
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I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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VZW never prevented sideloading.
well i appreciate the clarity, i guess as having a decent selection of androids to me made me feel that way,
ANYWAYS do we have any input on the topic? i feel like some people dont care, but we are talking about an awesome phone being offered to people at a lower cost, sim card use in america with a faster radio and possibly more storage, and a 1 year warranty in america, im not sure if att would even have the ability to hamper the nexus experience with this so does anyone care or do we just want to hate ATT?
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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I pay the premium to actually have reception, Tmo & Att have none in my area.. VZW has reception everywhere, and LTE everywhere too (in my area). VZW doesnt have "Android restrictions", and Ive never paid for tethering on any carrier nor will I - I get that for free.
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T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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Because T-mobile's service is garbage in a lot of places? Because they have unlimited data on Verizon? Because Verizon actually carries the Galaxy Nexus and there is no trouble getting warranty support?
There is actually a no service area for T-mobile within city limits here.

Any Major differences ?

At the end of the month i will be switching from sprint to Verizon.
I was wondering if there were any MAJOR developmental differences with rooting between the Sprint version of the nexus vs. the Verizon.
Though I will be switching to the Galaxy S3, I figure since this phone is on both sprint and Verizon it would be a good measure to see if verizon has locked their version of the phone down, i know in the past they have put more restriction on their devices compared to other carriers.
I just think there's more development for the Verizon version. Would be nice if you could switch carriers without having to switch phones
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Only difference is a tad bit of bloatware on Verizon.
Like MyVerizon.apk and a couple others.
And yeah, literally every GSM rom is on Toro, as far as I know.
Only a handful are on ToroPlus (Sprint).
Linked in my sig (or stickied above) you can see that the root method is exactly the same (aside from a different CWM.img).
Ok great, just wanted to make sure Verizon wasn't locking down their phones. Sounds like a plan. I can't wait for the gs III to drop
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The real reason behind pathetic weak Samsung signal

It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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I feel sorry for you that you have to use CDMA version of Samsung, but from all the GSM Galaxy phones in my sig, I never had signal problems except for the Vibrant GPS.
lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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or you could thank them when you dont develop tumors when you get older by using the lower strength radios and such
eksasol said:
I feel sorry for you that you have to use CDMA version of Samsung, but from all the GSM Galaxy phones in my sig, I never had signal problems except for the Vibrant GPS.
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Same here, I have good signal all the time (even when my country have ****ty networks, I'm always on full signal).
My signal has been rock solid everywhere I have been for the last 7 months. :good:
Samsung can't do anything right.
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The writing in the OP is an absolute trainwreck.
It's Sprint. Sprint sucks. No problems here on VZW CDMA, even w/o having the JB radios.
My friend has the Sprint iPhone (the forbidden device) and it's super slow even when maxed.
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lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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I also have to disagree with this. My GSM Nexus on T-Mobile has been rock solid. GPS lock in about 3 to 5 seconds and never a drop call and data speed has been great. We all know the first T-959 Vibrants had GPS issues but I sent mine in and Samsung fixed it. I wonder if it has to do with location? Here in Chicago my friends who are still on Sprint always complain about dropped calls and loss of network. And they are all using a mix of phones from different mafs.
A lot of it also is how the phone handles the signal display. Some phones display a higher signal then others as like a placebo. 5 bars on a moto RAZR and 3 on my gnex and mine still wins in speed tests.
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enik_fox said:
A lot of it also is how the phone handles the signal display. Some phones display a higher signal then others as like a placebo. 5 bars on a moto RAZR and 3 on my gnex and mine still wins in speed tests.
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Yea, do the bars really mean anything? I have had 8 Mbps download speed on full bars and 9 Mbps on 0 or 1 bar of signal and still no issues with calls.
mgerard said:
Yea, do the bars really mean anything? I have had 8 Mbps download speed on full bars and 9 Mbps on 0 or 1 bar of signal and still no issues with calls.
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They don't. You could have 5 bars and 500k people on the same tower as you and you'll get better service with 1 bar and 50k people on the tower.
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I disagree. A friend of mine on the same GSM network has a HTC Desire Z, and I *consistently* get better signal than him.
I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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I Am Marino said:
I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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i have a huge issue. the nex wont hold 4g in my house. period. drops to 3g all the time. i have a thunderbolt that got constant 4g (strong enough to tether with) in a known verizon dead zone. you explain that
I figured by now that people, especially those who start threads complaining about signal would know better then to base it off of bars!!!!!!!
Thanks for your informative well constructed break down of why Samsung sucks because another phone showed more bars.
Thanks to you research I will never buy another Samsung device again. You are my hero :silly:
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I have the VZW GNex and I have no issues.
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Same here. After owning a Thunderbolt and Bionic I'm easy to please.
Every phone I've owned has had this sort of thread. Show me the perfect phone on any OS, it doesn't exist. My perfect is your garbage, end of story.
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lojak29 said:
It's because it's SAMSUNG PEOPLE.
No one will admit if anyone has any experience with any Samsung device they should know compare an HTC or iphone or moto photon signal to any SPRINT SAMSUNG PHONE ITS NOT SPRINT.
It's the Samsung software or hardware that's been glitched since day one since the first epic
They all have weak signal u can compare a photon which is Motorola to this galaxy nexus
Galaxy s2, galaxy s3 any Samsung, WEAK SIGNAL PHONES, and not one person realizes this with comparing the experience of device to Device on the same network
. How can u get 5 constant bars on a photon or 2 or 3 on HTC evo or sprint I phone in the same area, but always 1 bar on Samsung phones All on the same network. ITS SAMSUNG SKIMPIN OUT ON THERE BUILD QUALITY whether hardware or software related, it pisses me off they persistently ROLL OUT brand new Devices all year and waist good phones cause they can't build a stronger signal phone.
So forget about complaining about signal issues it won't change until they figure the real reason out
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English, son! learn it!
Well, we needed a good troll thread this week.
2/10 would read again.

T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Is Future Proofed With LTE

T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
850/1900 GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/1700/1900 WCDMA/HSPA, Band 4 (5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), 17 LTE (5, 10 MHz).
Yup, that’s both 700 MHz for LTE roaming and 1700 MHz (T-Mobile’s AWS band) for LTE, which means only one thing — the Galaxy Note II is future proofed for T-Mobile’s LTE network, coming in 2013.
The rest of the report is under confidentiality so there isn’t a whole lot else we can discover from the FCC filings, but at this point the presence of LTE was the only unknown we had hoped to find. The rest of the Note II is pretty standard globally so we don’t expect any more surprises. To be honest, with the discovery of LTE on board, we can’t think of any better surprises.
While it’s true my excitement of LTE and future-proofing may be preliminary, the Galaxy Note II is likely to be a device many of you consider to be the best of both the tablet and smartphone world. The knowledge that the device will be ready and waiting for T-Mobile’s LTE network to go live in 2013 and won’t require a new piece of hardware is just a little bit of comfort in a world where hardware turns over far faster than our upgrade dates.
Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2
No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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Haha... that's where the LTE rumors started... I'd totally forgot about the FCC filings... of course sometimes they're not always true, but this looks right
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Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2
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Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.
achusaysblessyou said:
Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.
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I do wifi calling without even needing a carrier.
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For wifi calling use Talkatone and your Gvoice account if you have limited minutes on t-mobile. It's unlimited incoming and outgoing over wifi or 3g. And you have the benefit of having a second number to give out.
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akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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does voice and sms/mms...both work over wifi....
zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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Covers them all.
LTE capability confirmed by T-Mobile. http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mo...idden-lte-support-same-hardware-as-att-model/
Very grateful to you all of the news, once again, are looking forward to your update ah
Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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keebs29 said:
Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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The h is basically their 3.5 g before they upgraded it to their higher hspa+ network
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Has anyone tried slipping an At&t LTE micro sim (dirty i know), into the Tmo Note2?
I know we're all supposedly waiting for an update to the radio firmware but can't hurt to ask.
None of my friends have an LTE microsim phone.

Is anyone having signal issues?

I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
murmur70 said:
I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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every phone is different since most of them have different CPU and antenna. it's too soon to tell though as most folks haven't even received their pre orders yet.
I have this question as well. I'll be coming from an S3, and it has terrible signal strength. It's the one thing that I've always hated about the S3. I'll be interested to see everyone's results.
My N3 had terrible reception, I moved to LG G3 which was much better. I switched to new N4 yesterday and this phone outperforms both on signal strength. I don't drop data or voice anywhere I used to with the previous 2 phones.
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I have this question as well. I'll be coming from an S3, and it has terrible signal strength. It's the one thing that I've always hated about the S3. I'll be interested to see everyone's results.
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I'm in the exact same position. I'm really hoping the N4 outperforms the S3.
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every phone is different since most of them have different CPU and antenna. it's too soon to tell though as most folks haven't even received their pre orders yet.
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Yes, I realize all of that. I just wanted to get the question out there.
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It is still early but initial impressions seem to be positive. I am fond of Motorola for their excellent radios. Coming from a moto x, I don't see any difference in signal. And comparing from my previous note 3, it seems to have improved in my area.
Worse case is that if it doesn't work well in your area, you should be able to return the phone and get something else without incurring a restocking fee. I was hesitant since I wanted to wait for the droid turbo but since playing with the note 4, I'm keeping it. Good luck.
Im having a few signal issues i only get 1 bar some places but it doesnt seem to affect call quality
murmur70 said:
I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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I had a note 3 that held a LTE signal at 2 bars very well at my house until the 4.4.4 update, after that update it would be one 3g most of the time.
I got my note 4 yesterday and had it all day and it never once dropped to 3g, It held the LTE signal very well.
The note 4 is definitely better than the note 3 as far as signal quality.
I can verify this because I just bought a note 4 coming from a note 3. I was unable to get service in my house where I lived as well as many other places I should have. I bought the note 4 yesterday and all my service issues have been fixed. So yes the signal is much better.
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using note 4 today and best service i have had to date. phone has great dbm and first speedtest pulled 47 mbps download!!!
My Verizon N4 so far has slightly better signal than my LG G3, which had good service to begin with. No complaints so far with signal strength / net speed. So far my only complaint is the message + lag when taking a photo indoors. Reminds me of the annoying image stabilization option on the S5 that slowed the camera way down
murmur70 said:
I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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This shouldn't be a concern on a different device, as Android isn't like Windows (in that a specific version is compatible on all PCs). The firmware (OS) on your device is tailor made for that device, and because of this, the concern you have about signal quality on the Note 4 vs the Note 3 isn't valid (not that it's not a valid concern, but that it doesn't apply). This is why you can't flash firmware from one model to a different model, and the only way for you to garnish an answer is by either speaking to someone in your area that has a Note 4 on VZW or buy a Note 4. I'm not sure if the Note 3 had the ability, but from the Note 4 settings it appears that you make Google Voice your default phone service... not just for dialing, but for receiving as well. I can't verify this, as I haven't tried it out yet, however it would help in your situation. As far as signal goes, I've had no issues with my Note 4 since buying it.
Something to consider... the Nexus 6 comes out next month and one of the unique features it has, over that of the bootloader being unlocked, is that is is the first smartphone with a hot swappable SIM... meaning you can buy it on Verizon and switch at random with other U.S. CDMA and GSM carriers by simply swapping SIMs. The only two differences between the Note 4 and the NX6 is the NX6 has a 13MP camera vs that of the 16MP on the Note 4 and it doesn't come with a S Pen (it also doesn't have the novelty features like a heartbeat monitor or UV exposure reader)... hardware is all the same, quad core 2.7Ghz processor, 3GB of RAM, rapid charge, etc. I'm assuming you have Verizon here, but you know you don't have to pay full retail upfront right? Because manufacturer's and carriers can't test for every variable, occasionally a firmware update will cause an issue with signal viability... have you informed Verizon of the issue, as well as made Samsung aware?
Something else to keep in mind... Android 5.0 [Lollipop] will be released to the Note 4 within a few months, and if you prefer a rooted device, then I would caution against buying anything other than the NX6, as it is highly improbable rooting will be possible on bootloader locked devices running Android 5... is it impossible, no; highly improbable, yes. Checkout ChainFire's Google+ post from 10/18 or 10/19 for an indepth explanation as to why.
This phone gets FANTASTIC reception! Better then iPhone 5 which dropped 4g all the time and better then even my Galaxy S5. MUCH better then the Note 3 which has about the same Signal issues as the iphone 6......
I have a iPhone 6plus and note 4 and my note isn't getting more then two bars when my iPhone is getting 4...could my phone be faulty?
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Thanks guys for the feedback. I understand that signal problems with one phone are unrelated to signal issues with another phone. I was just giving my background that I don't want to go down the road I have with the N3.
Asking about signal issues with the National is a valid question.
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