the specs for the 8S on XDA are wrong - Windows Phone 8s by HTC

on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2010 it states that the 8S has 1.50GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, when the 8S actually has Qualcomm S4 1 GHz, Dual-core

kingcartwright said:
on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2010 it states that the 8S has 1.50GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, when the 8S actually has Qualcomm S4 1 GHz, Dual-core
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As far as i know the processor is the same like the one on the 8X only that it`s downclocked to 1Ghz.If i manage to find the article where i read this i will post it here.
Here are the current specs on gsmarena.

cevi said:
As far as i know the processor is the same like the one on the 8X only that it`s downclocked to 1Ghz.If i manage to find the article where i read this i will post it here.
Here are the current specs on gsmarena.
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So probably is it possible to overclock the phone to 1.5GHz? If yes, can someone explain how?

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AndroidSLC50 said:
From what I have learned from Android, you can get it overclocked by installing a custom rom.
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Android overclocks with a custom kernel. Not sure how windows phones work when it boils down to the OS but if you can configure the deep, deep drivers within the windows phone you can probably overclock it much higher than 1.5 ghz.
My S3 has the same 1.5 S4 but its currently running at 2.1 ghz
I think it just might need a little time, but will come. Get some of the geniuses over here at XDA to help

AFAIK, not being a Windows Phone user, overclocking may be too tricky.

Niddu85 said:
So probably is it possible to overclock the phone to 1.5GHz? If yes, can someone explain how?
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Yes.There is always a chance to overclock the processor but as far as i know it is to early for this to be done.Only time will tell.

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[Q] Help with 3D Drivers

Hi guys!!!
Im older user from HTC mobile, now I buy a new phone more chip, and won a new problems!
Srs., I've looking for features about my mobile (it is Motorola SPICE XT300), and this model only sell in Brazil / Canada / Argentina / Australia (i guess).
Looking in the website (gsmarena) I found the features about my phone, and its is the same about the Wildfire. look:
Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair)
CPU 528 MHz ARM 11 processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm MSM7225 chipset
So i heard about this model dont have a drivers for this chipset, cause i dont know, but motorola dont make this drivers. So i hear some people try porting other driver from this chipset in this model but its very very dificult found news about this. I have some helps from neopeek and other forums, here too, about porting this drivers.
So, this driver i guess stay in /system/lib/****.so - my question is, somebody knows how install the 3D driver for this chipset? If i download a CUSTOM ROM here, try to copy/paste in the same location those files could work? Please guys help me, I dont wanna lose my phone but dont wanna use without graphics (by the way its f**king bad do anything, its slow any apps who needs).
So any news about this? anything? some developer could help me? any one?
Thx guys, c ya ...
gsmarena has the specs of the wildfire wrong, it doesn't have a gpu
Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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Oh and this should not be in the android dev fourm
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brilldoctor said:
Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.
vilks said:
i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.
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No. Qualcomm MSM7225 does not support / have a GPU.
this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}
vilks said:
this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}
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this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.
ramdroid77 said:
this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.
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+1 for that
It's a great phone athough it doesnt have GPU. And i dont know what people expect for such a low price...lol I think there is no better phone for that money.
The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.
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The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.
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Seconded. At today's price point, there are much better phones than the Wildfire out there. But, ~6 months back, really, Wildfire was the only option if you wanted a budget Android, which is why, I am a bit disillusioned, but will continue to faithfully stick with my Wildfire.
I agree that now there are better phones in that price range. But look at the time when wildfire is released, almost a year ago and still it can compete. You must agree that even few months is relatively big period not to mention a whole year.
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Good value? Yeah, maybe the first days of release, but it didn't take long for alot more valuable phones came along. All HTC phones is overpriced, and now with locked bootloaders, useless. Only reason I got it was becouse, at the time, it was the cheapest with a LED flashlight. If I only waited for the Defy instead, same price-range, but oh so much better phone on ALL fronts.
Ok guys! but the question its not about the wildfire, its is about this Motorola Spice..
So ok, i learn the Wildfire dont have gpu ok ...
So somebody have the nenamark.apk to install ? I just found the .zip file and I dont know how to install this on mobile.
I gonna make the test with this bench, cause if i got more then 1fps i have a gpu .. if not, i dont have and i guess this thread is closed.
Any one know something about this specific model? C ya.

[Q] Help Overclocking SM-P600 ARM A15 cores: is it possible?

Ive gotten apps that can over clock the cores, but it's only the 4 SMALL cores which clock at 1.3 GHZ and can over clock into 1.9 GHZ but I don't need that since the Exynos 5 Octa has 4 OTHER cores that clock at 1.9GHZ. The Dolphin emulator doesn't use the 1.9GHZ cores. When I over clock there 1.3GHZ to 1.9GHZ while playing Super Smash Bros Melee, it runs just as good as the Note 3 does, which is 2.3GHZ SnapDragon. If I were to use AND over clock the 1.9GHZ cores, I may be able to run that and also other graphic intense games almost perfectly. Help please.
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Ive gotten apps that can over clock the cores, but it's only the 4 SMALL cores which clock at 1.3 GHZ and can over clock into 1.9 GHZ but I don't need that since the Exynos 5 Octa has 4 OTHER cores that clock at 1.9GHZ. The Dolphin emulator doesn't use the 1.9GHZ cores. When I over clock there 1.3GHZ to 1.9GHZ while playing Super Smash Bros Melee, it runs just as good as the Note 3 does, which is 2.3GHZ SnapDragon. If I were to use AND over clock the 1.9GHZ cores, I may be able to run that and also other graphic intense games almost perfectly. Help please.
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Overclocking was attempted with the Bindroid Kernel but it would not stick. As for it running better on the Note 3, you are pushing a lot fewer pixels on the Note 3 (1200x1980) versus Note 2014 (2560x1600)
nrage23 said:
Overclocking was attempted with the Bindroid Kernel but it would not stick. As for it running better on the Note 3, you are pushing a lot fewer pixels on the Note 3 (1200x1980) versus Note 2014 (2560x1600)
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what's a bindroid kernel lol and well then shouldn't that mean that it should be harder to run on the tablet??? and also if I were to over clock the bigger cores and over clock the gpu, which so far the apps that over clock gpu's are only for Snapdargon, then it would run better than any device on the market.
Also, I found this: "The core switching is controlled by a firmware layer that sits in between the software and the chip itself. Operating systems can be tweaked to better support big.LITTLE's particular arrangement of cores, but any OS that supports power state switching for CPUs (any mainstream operating system from the last decade or so) can take advantage of big.LITTLE without any additional changes."
Source:http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/19/exynos-5-octa
Though this is for the galaxy s4, it should be the architecture as the note 10.1 2014. But is it possible to tweak that firmware or even MANUALLY activate the 4 stronger cores at will???
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what's a bindroid kernel lol and well then shouldn't that mean that it should be harder to run on the tablet??? and also if I were to over clock the bigger cores and over clock the gpu, which so far the apps that over clock gpu's are only for Snapdargon, then it would run better than any device on the market.
Also, I found this: "The core switching is controlled by a firmware layer that sits in between the software and the chip itself. Operating systems can be tweaked to better support big.LITTLE's particular arrangement of cores, but any OS that supports power state switching for CPUs (any mainstream operating system from the last decade or so) can take advantage of big.LITTLE without any additional changes."
Source:http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/19/exynos-5-octa
Though this is for the galaxy s4, it should be the architecture as the note 10.1 2014. But is it possible to tweak that firmware or even MANUALLY activate the 4 stronger cores at will???
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You may want to do some more research before you do anything. Most aspects of the CPU or GPU are handled by the kernel. The only way you can overclock any device is with a custom kernel that has the higher frequencies in the tables. DutchDanny tried to get overclocking working but it did not work. You can however underclock most any device since it has all the lower frequencies listed. If we wanted to enable Big Little on the Note 2014 we would need Samsung to release source code enabling it. Which I am sure they will not do. Again the Big Little is kernel dependent. The Android OS is not the problem Samsung is the problem. Do a search there is a very good thread about the 8 core thing.
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You may want to do some more research before you do anything. Most aspects of the CPU or GPU are handled by the kernel. The only way you can overclock any device is with a custom kernel that has the higher frequencies in the tables. DutchDanny tried to get overclocking working but it did not work. You can however underclock most any device since it has all the lower frequencies listed. If we wanted to enable Big Little on the Note 2014 we would need Samsung to release source code enabling it. Which I am sure they will not do. Again the Big Little is kernel dependent. The Android OS is not the problem Samsung is the problem. Do a search there is a very good thread about the 8 core thing.
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Wait wuuut I heard there was going to be an update for the Exynos 5 octa for Big.Little Architecture ???
NerroEx said:
Wait wuuut I heard there was going to be an update for the Exynos 5 octa for Big.Little Architecture ???
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The Exynos 5 is fully capable but Samsung has never said they would update the Note 2014 to enable it.
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The Exynos 5 is fully capable but Samsung has never said they would update the Note 2014 to enable it.
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Actually I heard either in Q4 or Q3 they were going to release an update
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Actually I heard either in Q4 or Q3 they were going to release an update
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I got the Note 2014 the day it came out and I check all kinds of news/forums everyday. I have seen nothing where they stated they would update any current devices with big.LITTLE. They have stated by the end of the year they would release new devices with big.LITTLE implemented. I would guess the first ones would be the 6 core midrange processor due to heat and power usage. You can get a lot more information from this thread in the main section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875

Why octa-core?

The galaxy tab s products that are available to me have an octa-core processor, with the high speed cores being 1.9ghz. I can't really understand why Samsung chose to use that instead of a 2.3ghz quad-core like in the tab pro.
See Wikipedia for an explanation of the concept: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_...multi-processing_.28global_task_scheduling.29
Because the Exynos 5 Octa-core is the one processor that Samsung has to be able to compete with Snapdragon 800, and is cheaper to implement since it's their own processor. I don't buy the Octa-core hype, I'd be happier with the Snapdragon 800 honestly like on the Tab PRO 8.4.
The question is:
Does TAB S use the 8 cores at the same time?
It seams it does NOT, little cores are only used when low power is required..
So performance wise, this CPU is slower than SD 800
ssuper2k said:
The question is:
Does TAB S use the 8 cores at the same time?
It seams it does NOT, little cores are only used when low power is required..
So performance wise, this CPU is slower than SD 800
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And yet I am getting 35,300 on Antutu using Shaheers t800 rom which is higher than any other current tablet or phone. (Shaheer's rom should go out of beta today - don't flash until final has been posted).
The Tab Pro 8.4 Antutu is 32,806.
I CANT PLAY NOVA 3 with exynos !
AND GAMING IS NOT SO SMOOTH ! STILL A BIT LAGGY
I can see the argument that you don't always need full power, thus the four slow cores, but since all cores can't run at once, it seems a cheat to have 1.9ghz as the top speed for the faster four cores. Since, or at least I assume, cores step up and down as needed, it seems to me a snapdragon 800 or higher at 2.3ghz or higher would have been just fine. I mean, if you are going to put in 3gb of RAM, then you should put in a great cpu also and not pretend less (1.9ghz) is a better contribution to what is supposed to be a premium tablet.
And yet I don't think samsung is doing enough to utilizing this hardware capability. In theory it should run at least 4x faster and 6x more effecient then the snap dragon and apple current A8 chip. It has failed to outshine the competitors because samsung software department sucks. Samsung hardware is still great though.
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I CANT PLAY NOVA 3 with exynos !
AND GAMING IS NOT SO SMOOTH ! STILL A BIT LAGGY
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Blame the developer for not making it compatible. Tegra powered Htc one x is incompatible too so not sure that is exynos issue..
i wish my t805 had Full HD screen resolution :cyclops:
Funny. Was just browsing the web a bit on my i5 ultrabook and it occurred to me that the browser on my Tab S is actually faster. If gaming is your primary thing, I'd buy the Nvidia Shield, not the Tab S. This tablet is designed for eye candy media consumption (internet and video) not for gaming enthusiasts. Try running your PC video card at 2560 x 1600 on ultra and see what you get.
i had heard from a Samsung rep i actually enjoy talking to that Sammy had just figured the all cores at once and we should see updates that turn that feature on. when this will happen who knows. i also did not ask him for a link and now cant find that info on the web so when i see him again soon i will get more info.
i would assume (insert you know what that means) that when/if this happens the full power of this setup would greatly improve?
anyway i have had my Tab S running snappy for me and no complaints at this time
You cannot compare the clock speeds from two different processors. For instance, you can't compare the 1.9GHz quad-core of the Exynos to the 2.3GHz quad-core of the Snapdragon 800. This doesn't mean anything. If you compare the clock speed of two Snapdragon chips, that's ok, or if you compare the clock speed of two Exynos chips, then that's ok too. Comparing the clock speed of an Intel chip against the clock speed of an AMD chip, is the same as comparing the clock speed of an Exynos chip to the clock speed of a Snapdragon chip.
The Exynos chip in this tablet has been shown to compete very well/close with the Snapdragon on every level except GPU. The Mali GPU in this chip just doesn't match the Adreno GPU from the Snapdragon. However, the RAM is faster in the Exynos than the Snapdragon.
That said, I am a fan of the Snapdragon chip, of course. I was holding off to see if the LTE variant of this tablet would have the Snapdragon 800, but instead they shipped with an Intel LTE modem. Besides apps/games not being optimized for Exynos, I am fairly satisfied with my purchase. I'm just anxious to get CyanogenMod(or any other AOSP ROM installed on it).
fletch33 said:
i had heard from a Samsung rep i actually enjoy talking to that Sammy had just figured the all cores at once and we should see updates that turn that feature on. when this will happen who knows. i also did not ask him for a link and now cant find that info on the web so when i see him again soon i will get more info.
i would assume (insert you know what that means) that when/if this happens the full power of this setup would greatly improve?
anyway i have had my Tab S running snappy for me and no complaints at this time
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Could also mean increased battery consumption,don't know. Overall I am satisfied with this Tab including battery life.
There are 3 different performace results:
a) what Exynos 520 does achieve in practice now, measured bei some benchmarks and real world performance (<= Snapdragon 800)
b) what it could do theoretically - but will never happen due to driver and scheduler etc issues (>> Snapdragon)
c) what it will do some day in near future on an optimized ROM (somewhere in between?)
Fortunately the Exynos 5420 does support all 8 cores in parallel, see here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Exynos-5420-Octa-SoC.103633.0.html
pibach said:
There are 3 different performace results:
a) what Exynos 520 does achieve in practice now, measured bei some benchmarks and real world performance (<= Snapdragon 800)
b) what it could do theoretically - but will never happen due to driver and scheduler etc issues (>> Snapdragon)
c) what it will do some day in near future on an optimized ROM (somewhere in between?)
Fortunately the Exynos 5420 does support all 8 cores in parallel, see here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Exynos-5420-Octa-SoC.103633.0.html
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Wish I knew how. Probably a linux thing. ...
If it is possible to implement in today's existing source, I'm sure @AndreiLux would know about it ?
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Wish I knew how. Probably a linux thing. ...
If it is possible to implement in today's existing source, I'm sure @AndreiLux would know about it ?
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It's impossible.
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It's impossible.
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What and why?
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What and why?
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http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...ta-can-use-eight-cores-simultaneously-267316/
I've found a few articles saying it should support it, then a couple Deva saying they had to goto the 5422 for a working implementation of HMP.
Here is a post from odroid
http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=5651
That's weird. The (newer) 5422 supports HMP but not 3gb RAM.

Does Exynos 5420 of Tab S support HMP and enable real 8 core?

I just read some articles that 5420 may enable 8 core processor by soft update. Is it true?
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Alexsandra said:
I just read some articles that 5420 may enable 8 core processor by soft update. Is it true?
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they're already enabled. next.
Jodova: if you don't understand the question then don't answer and display your ignorance. He's asking about enabling all right at the same time, not the big.Little configuration they're in now.
Hopefully Samsung will enable this soon.
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I can't imagine needing all 8 cores at the same time. It seems it works great under heavy loads as is.
Forgive my ignorance but, would we really benefit? It seems to me it would absolutely destroy the battery.
Is there any octa-core device running all 8 cores out of the box?
LoVeRice said:
Is there any octa-core device running all 8 cores out of the box?
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I attached a image for your question. It looks like Galaxy S5 should support enable 8 core. I think Little Big is designed for beautiful scoring not for daily usage.:banghead: I prefer to choose the latest Snapdragon Chip
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Brenardo said:
I can't imagine needing all 8 cores at the same time. It seems it works great under heavy loads as is.
Forgive my ignorance but, would we really benefit? It seems to me it would absolutely destroy the battery.
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I expect my next Tab or tablet could have enough powerful processor which is able to make me forget my windows laptop. Battery killer? Samsung ROM is the best battery killer
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Zamboney said:
Jodova: if you don't understand the question then don't answer and display your ignorance. He's asking about enabling all right at the same time, not the big.Little configuration they're in now.
Hopefully Samsung will enable this soon.
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I am waiting for update or Sony Z2 tablet is my alternative option
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Exynos 5420 + HMP = Exynos 5422. So no, Exynos 5420 which is in the S doesn't (and won't) support HMP.
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Exynos 5420 + HMP = Exynos 5422. So no, Exynos 5420 which is in the S doesn't (and won't) support HMP.
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Here's a slide from Qualcomm. The same holds true with Exynos where 85% of apps never leave the A7 cluster. In a few instances using A7 and A15 at the same time might provide needed extra power but how many apps or games exceed the power provided by four A15 chips?
Check out this:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-te...lementation-for-exynos-ahead-of-ces-29310253/
In this article. from Dec 2013 , more than 6 months before the tab S was released, a "Samsung Engineer" is quoted as saying:
'The ARM-based Exynos 5 Octa is currently used in a range of Samsung tablets and smartphones, but only one Exynos model, the 5420, is hardware-enabled for HMP. The 5420 is currently found in the Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy Note 10.1. However, HMP is currently software-disabled because HMP would overheat such devices, a Samsung engineer stated.'
Samsung announced two new mobile SoCs at MWC today. The first is an update to the Exynos 5 Octa with the new Exynos 5422. The 5422 is a mild update to the 5420, which was found in some international variants of the Galaxy Note 3. The new SoC is still built on a 28nm process at Samsung, but enjoys much higher frequencies on both the Cortex A7 and A15 clusters. The two clusters can run their cores at up to 1.5GHz and 2.1GHz, respectively. The 5422 supports HMP (Heterogeneous Multi-Processing), and Samsung LSI tells us that unlike the 5420 we may actually see this one used with HMP enabled. HMP refers to the ability for the OS to use and schedule threads on all 8 cores at the same time, putting those threads with low performance requirements on the little cores and high performance threads on the big cores.
The GPU is still the same ARM Mali-T628 MP6 from the 5420, running at the same frequency. Samsung does expect the 5422 to ship with updated software (drivers perhaps?) that will improve GPU performance over the 5420.​http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
The Exynos 5422 in the SGS5 is running at the same clock speed as the 5420 vs. the higher speeds it's capable of supporting. So it's highly likely 5420 and 5422 have the same heat envelope.
@AndreiLux is a leading kernel developer on XDA. You can review his comments on 5420 ever being able to support HMP in this thread. I'd take it as gospel. Getting HMP working where it's disabled is kind of like threads about reversing KNOX after it's tripped. Both are urban myths.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875
It's not impossible for the 5420, it's been done and I've seen the Samsung patch (I linked the patch in another thread in our forum somewhere). As far as I'm aware, it just hasn't been done on Android. It may require many changes including Linux version, governor etc etc
I personally (just guessing) think that Samsung haven't bothered for our device because of heating issues and invoking thermal throttling at an earlier stage. For most applications, such power would not be needed.
Edit: OK, the patch I quoted was for 5410, but I've seen similar for 5420. ...
This is the thread in I'm referring to previous discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54700335
If Samsung invested the time money and resources, I'm quite sure that is not "impossible" to do it for our device. Due to the above stated reasons, I feel it's quite "improbable".
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It's not impossible for the 5420, it's been done and I've seen the Samsung patch (I linked the patch in another thread in our forum somewhere). As far as I'm aware, it just hasn't been done on Android. It may require many changes including Linux version, governor etc etc
I personally (just guessing) think that Samsung haven't bothered for our device because of heating issues and invoking thermal throttling at an earlier stage. For most applications, such power would not be needed.
Edit: OK, the patch I quoted was for 5410, but I've seen similar for 5420. ...
This is the thread in I'm referring to previous discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54700335
If Samsung invested the time money and resources, I'm quite sure that is not "impossible" to do it for our device. Due to the above stated reasons, I feel it's quite "improbable".
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That patch in that previous discussion won't work, and neither will any for the 5420 due to various reasons I already explained in the past.
AndreiLux said:
That patch in that previous discussion won't work, and neither will any for the 5420 due to various reasons I already explained in the past.
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I never implied that that specific patch will work, just an example of what's "possible".
Here is a link on a working 5420 HMP in a Samsung demo:
https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&...wIwAA&usg=AFQjCNE0QItCM5_UdrpSajCtUSJ3Dt3WBw
As i maintain , possible, but improbable. ...
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As i maintain , possible, but improbable. ...
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And I maintain that it is not possible.
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And I maintain that it is not possible.
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The video isn't shot by David Copperfield . ...... This is clear evidence, not hearsay. Not "impossible", because it's actually been done
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The video isn't shot by David Copperfield . ...... This is clear evidence, not hearsay. Not "impossible", because it's actually been done
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Do you really want to argue with me? The CCI is disabled in hardware on the SoC and it's impossible in any kind of way to circumvent this via software. Beyond that we need changes to the bootloader to be able to properly manage booting of the clusters as the PM is protected/handled over TrustZone.
You will never see HMP work on any 5420 on any publicly available hardware. Period.
AndreiLux said:
Do you really want to argue with me? The CCI is disabled in hardware on the SoC and it's impossible in any kind of way to circumvent this via software. Beyond that we need changes to the bootloader to be able to properly manage booting of the clusters as the PM is protected/handled over TrustZone.
You will never see HMP work on any 5420 on any publicly available hardware. Period.
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You know that i wasnt arguing...... My point was that's is not impossible (video evidence !!), but improbable. Samsung have the resources to do just about anything they put there minds, money and motivation too. I also referred to generally 5420 , and not our specific device......
I agree on your last statement (edit: for existing public available hardware), The demo 5420 HMP clearly works.

SOC version

I read that HTC Desire EYE has Qualcom 801 msm8974AB but mine is msm8974AA
Anyone else ? Even more funny is the short spec sheet here on XDA 2.4GHz CPU?!?!?!?
Guys get serious..
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I read that HTC Desire EYE has Qualcom 801 msm8974AB but mine is msm8974AA
Anyone else ? Even more funny is the short spec sheet here on XDA 2.4GHz CPU?!?!?!?
Guys get serious..
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We have a 8974AA (both are pin compatible and are very similar).
uberlaggydarwin said:
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Thanks for reply.
So every Desire EYE have msm8974AA?
So this one is like Snapdragon 800 first generation used in LG G2...Xperia Z1...Nexus 5...etc.
I was confused about low benchmark scores on all reviews but now it is clear Snapdragon 801 MSM8974AA is in HTC Eye...lower GPU clock and RAM clock...funny how hardware info is not correct in any app available...
uberlaggydarwin said:
We have a 8974AA (both are pin compatible and are very similar).
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Similar but GPU and RAM are on the low clock speed sadly
I informed PDADB and they are the first (best) to change SOC spec used in Desire EYE
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7547&c=htc_desire_eye_4g_lte_emea_m910n

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