Anything new in WP7.8 other than the screen - Windows Phone 7 General

I got the 7.8 finally.
Did not wait for any other methods thought I would get it when it comes officially via Zune.
Got the update yesterday and I was really down.
Other than the screen (Which is pretty good now) and the lock screen I could not find anything at all.
I am not sure if there are other changes under the hood which we do not know about but for the layman it ends there.
Have you all found anything new with 7.8 or were you also in the same boat as me

bluetooth share and ringtone maker for lumias.
the camera is slightly better
new tile templates, apps can now use circular and large tile templates, so far only flip was supported.
Not many things in the OS itself, but opens a lot of new possibilities for the developers.
IMO, the startscreen alone is a huge boost, the small tile is incredibly useful.

I only found the lock screen could be set to Bing, and the start screen tile size can be changed. For Message, if you resize it to biggest, it will show the latest msg on the tile, which is a nice feature.

I did not see the ringtone maker in the Nokia collection yet so that is one item missing
So till the developers bring us something cool using the new SDK there is nothing for WP7.8

WP7.8 is not out yet, thats why you cant see the ringtone maker or the bluetooth share yet.

mcosmin222 said:
WP7.8 is not out yet, thats why you cant see the ringtone maker or the bluetooth share yet.
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7.8 is out for all winphones now! Blutooth sharing and Ringtone maker are for Nokia phones only! Has not been ported for other phones yet and I doubt it will be!

djassa1 said:
7.8 is out for all winphones now! Blutooth sharing and Ringtone maker are for Nokia phones only! Has not been ported for other phones yet and I doubt it will be!
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Works on my HD2 and my Titan

I noticed below changes on Samsung Omnia W with WP7.8 Upgrade-
- New Boot Screen with new Windows logo
- 20 accent colours for Live Tiles
- Re-sizeable tiles in Homescreen
- Bing Wallpaper for Lock screen
- New Icons for Office, Marketplace, Xbox apps
Changes not present (which I expected)-
- Bluetooth file sharing app
- Language support for Indian Languages
- Offline Navigation app from Nokia
- Internet Explorer 10

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Most annoying missing features in mango

Apparently after a wonderful time playing with my mango HD7 phone, I suddenly remember one thing that I always wish to have in WP7: the ability to play audible books. Hell yea why did not they have this feature? Even my Ipod first generation can do this.
Wifi / Bluetooth Toggle
Gapless music playback
Music scrubber
Customizable accent colors
Un-removable of the Folder button in the email app. (Seriously MS? At least make these customizable)
Visual Voicemail (on AT&T)
Option to default to keypad (instead of history) when hitting the phone tile
Week mode on the calendar
I'm really digging deep, but that's all I can thing of on my end. I don't understand why the phone doesn't have gapless playback while my Zune HD does.
Also, is anyone else disappointed that "zune-esque" artist background on WP7 is nothing like the Zune HD artist background? One is a still picture, the other is a slideshow with changing colors and text rolling across the screen in a very cool way.
Red Grenadine said:
Wifi / Bluetooth Toggle
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You can toggle Bluetooth and Wifi since 7004
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Visual Voicemail (on AT&T)
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This is in Mango, AT&T just hasn't enabled it for Windows Phones yet as there isn't an official release. Thats why you don't see it. AT&T will enable for Windows Phones as soon as Mango is officially released. So thats at least one marked off ;p
airwa1kin7 said:
You can toggle Bluetooth and Wifi since 7004
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i guess he means shurtcut to toggle wifi/bluetoth from homescreen . without having to go through settings then wifi/bluetooth n toggle....
airwa1kin7 said:
You can toggle Bluetooth and Wifi since 7004
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Yes but there is no shortcut for that...
No skype and no flash player
dtboos said:
This is in Mango, AT&T just hasn't enabled it for Windows Phones yet as there isn't an official release. Thats why you don't see it. AT&T will enable for Windows Phones as soon as Mango is officially released. So thats at least one marked off ;p
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You sure? AT&T doesn't even support visual voicemail on Android as far as I know.
Also, the ability to lock the screen rotation.
rajivshahi said:
i guess he means shurtcut to toggle wifi/bluetoth from homescreen . without having to go through settings then wifi/bluetooth n toggle....
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Yes. There should be an easy way to toggle this on the homescreen. Like when you hit the top of the phone to get information, the wifi / bluetooth / vibrate icons should all be selectable buttons that toggle.
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Also, the ability to lock the screen rotation.
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I really miss that. How annoying is the screen rotating.
I would also like a Bluetooth toggle. I only turn it on when I'm driving to save battery and its a hassle going into settings multiple times a day.
I'm also missing tethering.
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You can pin the settings link to your homescreen which makes it only slightly more bearable. But yeah that would be very handy, though I think using the top status bar wouldn't work very well since the icons would be hard to hit dead on. Perhaps add them to the screen that pops down when you toggle the volume?
And I too wish for a better audiobook system, one where my place is always saved regardless of a reboot, the app being closed, etc.
Agreed
I agree with you guys. Being able to toggle WiFi, Bluetooth, or in my case airplane mode would be handy, but not a deal breaker. I have pinned “Settings” to the start screen. This has helped a bit.
The deal breaker for me is a useable, WiFi capable Skype app. I’ve waited all I can. I’m eligible for a device in January and I’m gone for good if they don’t have this fixed by then.
I really don’t want to switch at all, but I need Skype and will go without no longer.
……. although that HTC Holiday is looking pretty sexy.
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You can pin the settings link to your homescreen which makes it only slightly more bearable. But yeah that would be very handy, though I think using the top status bar wouldn't work very well since the icons would be hard to hit dead on. Perhaps add them to the screen that pops down when you toggle the volume?
And I too wish for a better audiobook system, one where my place is always saved regardless of a reboot, the app being closed, etc.
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Someone came up with a good idea in another thread for bt/wifi/etc. toggles. Put them under the applist arrow & make use of that wasted space.
Multi select text messages like you can multi select emails
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5minutes said:
Also, the ability to lock the screen rotation.
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yeah that is sometimes very annoying
Go landscape mode on the homescreen.
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drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Someone came up with a good idea in another thread for bt/wifi/etc. toggles. Put them under the applist arrow & make use of that wasted space.
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That's not a bad idea, I wouldn't just have them there all the time though. Give us the ability to pin settings type things there as we want them. That way we can choose between "the look" and "the functionality."
oldpueblo said:
That's not a bad idea, I wouldn't just have them there all the time though. Give us the ability to pin settings type things there as we want them. That way we can choose between "the look" and "the functionality."
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I agree & good point.

The evolution of Live Tiles

Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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PG2G said:
I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
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I like your ideas, you got something going there, we can build off of that, reason i made this thread to reflect on ideas as such
They look and work fine for me.
vetvito said:
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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These ideas should definately be implemented, I totally agree
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They look and work fine for me.
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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They look and work fine for me.
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As I agree with you as of not but, the color selection is lame, I want to customize my phone a little. Right now besides using a hack to change or add colors, there is no way to really do that.
I would like to see some type of texture or something to jazz up the tiles a little.
They work great now but, just need a little tweaking in my eyes...
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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LexusFman said:
Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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vetvito said:
Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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By 'police' I wasn't sure if you meant font size? Or Tile width?
As a developer you're limited by Microsoft to hardly any text on the front of a tile (and only in one specific position), and only the option of a large-ish font on the back of a tile (often too big as you say to display say a full news headline).
You can see what a developer is allowed to change on a tile here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh202948(v=vs.92).aspx
i.e. a single number, a small bit of text on the front, some text on the back, and a background image. I think it's too limiting at the moment.
You can get round these limitations a bit by dynamically generating the tile background (for front or back) as an image (e.g. of some smaller font text). That's not easy to code though, especially if you're trying to dynamically generate the image on the phone through say a wp7 background agent. It's a bit easier doing it on a server - but that means it won't work when there's no mobile signal. Having to generate the whole thing as an image (especially just to display smaller font text) also feels a little bit like using a sledgehammer to knock in a nail.
Similarly I think Microsoft should let developers create double width tiles - they could even make it a marketplace certification requirement that the user should have an option of specifying single/double width tile in the app. As long as the user has the option of choosing I can't see the harm.
Microsoft should be giving developers full and easy access to what happens in those 173 by 173 squares of tile pixels. Perhaps even give the user the option in-app as to whether the developer is allowed to make the Tile animate or not - I think then Tiles would become a lot more interesting.
Yeah I meant font size, sorry I'm French
On your app (loving it by the way) the text on the back is usually fine because it displays scores but on BBC News or WPCentral for instance you only get half a headline or something like that which is totally useless as you then need to open the app to know what's going on. It goes against the concept of Live Tiles, I don't get it. On the other hand, on the Me tile the font size adapts to the text there is to display so it is possible, it's just Microsoft not giving access to devs, totally stupid.
link68759 said:
I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Lie much? For every tile on WP7 I have a widget. Left Widgets behind? What planet are you on?
Tiles offer absolutely no function, only partial information.
Mesh together? Nearly every app implements good tile practices? Sure they do, sure...
Sense is fat and not that good? However your other post perfectly describes Sense.
But yeah
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link68759 said:
I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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For me, the animation of the People tile has seemed pretty useless. There doesn't seem to be any meaning behind what people are displayed and why. If there is, I haven't seen it. I love the People Hub, but the Tile just doesn't provide much value to me.
To me, I would much rather have settings to determine which people would show on the tile. Then disappear once acknowledged, like the email indicators. So, if a contact updates Facebook, I may want to see it. But, I don't care if most of my contacts update things. So, in an ideal world a persons picture would only appear if they had updated something. Then it would be hidden and remain hidden once I acknowledged it. Then if something else would be updated, it would appear. And the users this would apply to would be set by me.
Effectively the animation of the People Tile just seems like noise.
Animation for the sake of animation is just distracting and consumes additional power.
I want the ability to control the app from the tile itself. Kind of like toggle switches.
Hardware limitations
Hi all
I think that some of the limitations on Live tiles are due to hardware considerations. Regular live tiles are limited to one background update per 30 minutes. This is because MS is keen to maintain performance and battery life. I think that as hardware improves, particularly mobile processors, we will see live tile functionality expand.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

What UI or theme tweaks would you like to have for your P6 ?

What changes would you like for your UI ?
Maybe possible suggestions can be forwarded to the Huawei developers so that they add into the new firmware upgrades. :victory:
Let me start with one : An LG G2 type guest user login option. I got no idea if its possible but ...
Another suggestion would be to get rid of the iphone looking theme with those box icons. I always stayed away from the iphone because of that.
And yes as some other user on this forum asked for, a more detailed notification on the lock screen. :good:
It would be nice if we had possible to switch to vanilla android look
More black.
Settings menu, phone, notification panel,...
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A Motorola droid type wheel menu for the camera. Maybe they could just add the profile switching wheel for the camera too.
google play edition
make google play edition
that would be great!
I manufactured a rumour and posted on facebook:
Okay guys this is what the insider sources tell me on the upcoming Emotion 2.0 upgrade.
- Firstly chucking the old iphone looking theme for a more premium look and finish theme with a default standard brand huawei theme.
- The lock screen would allow the guest login mode.
- The bottom tray app icons would be swipe to scroll type making room for more.
- New Huawei exclusive live widgets and floating apps including a floating sms/email app.
- There is going to be selection of animated pet or figure (also targeting Asian users having a craze for Hello Kitty, Rilakuma, etc) which would be possible to pop open from anywhere and through this pet all notifications, alarms, internet search, floating apps, voice control, camera, connectivity toggles, etc would be possible. The pet can be awakened with a phone shake.
- The smart scroll feature that scrolls according to head movements making reading user friendly.
- Message reading is going to be upgraded with lot of swipe features like the swipe to delete or swipe to send feature.
- Swipe call feature on contacts if you want to directly call from contacts rather than the two step process of entering into the contact.
And many more nice tweaks which i don't remember right now. But from the sound of what he said, something big is coming soon by before last quarter or first quarter next year along with the latest android version.
Support Huawei everyone !!!!!
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lol:laugh:
rosiusyves said:
More black.
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2nd that.
+ black background for softw. buttons, get rid of that ugly gray.
+ google edition
+ app drawer
koper1 said:
2nd that.
+ black background for softw. buttons, get rid of that ugly gray.
+ google edition
+ app drawer
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Why just black ? Why not user customizable along with theme and with less visibility so that wallpapers show behind it like Windows desktop bottom bar ?
I didn't see much use with the app drawer. All the frequent use apps i put on the front for quicker use and so my usage of app drawer was once in a while. Id say they have to come up with something new for placing the not so frequently used apps.

Impressions & Reviews and thoughts about KitKat + EMUI 2.3! (B510)

I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page. At multi-tasking when i close app with gesture, (not clicking on "X") it closes not smoothly.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?
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I thought, would be nice to talk separetly about the KitKat International B510 firmware. Also we can write reviews.
My FIRST impression about this KitKat update is mixed. I missing a lot of features, like Permission manager for push services?!
Video playing is really bad! Standalone and online also. If i open videos online, and rotate the screen, i only hear the sound but the screen flashing all the time. Also video image slides alot!
Sometimes the launcher freez, when scrolling to another page.
Permission manager is gone? A lot of apps needed that, to work properly. For example: Facebook Messenger Cheat heads blocked, so i cant use it because of that.
Others? Whats your imressions overall?
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This is BETA, so it's undestandable to have some issues and missing apps. All apps will be there in the official release.
Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?
warea said:
Is it worth upgrading from B507 to B510 ?
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Yes. Give it a shot, it is much faster and all the new functions are running very smooth. The performance is much better.
Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !
interdan said:
Update this beta version through OTA (I attended to do beta tester).
No problem with standalone and online video, about launcher seems slightly less fluid, I recommend using a theme created for 2.3 EMUI version.
About the permission manager, I suppose it's changed the method of management with the app "phone management"
I love the new keyboard and the new lock screen !
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Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".
benjaminbodoky said:
Yes, im okey with changes, but if it's working well. In phone management you'll not finding any options to set up, permissions neither push options. So it's not a good "change".
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I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:
for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p
interdan said:
I find instead the new implementation significantly easier to use than before, for example, the widget is really functional and also the new management once you understand how it works, I do not mind at all.
It is true, I have not found the settings about notifications, but the rest is "smarter" :highfive:
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Im curious about future updates. They said, at the end of july they will release the final version. doubt that we will have a newer beta. I hope everybody will gave a feedback to them. The wierd thing, is we have official beta for 2.3 but china didnt.
meilbox said:
for me no problem with video playback ( i sugest hwreset)
and Permission manager is now phone manager... so nothing is missing at all ;p
it runs good as for day of usage ;p
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Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.
benjaminbodoky said:
Half true. Phone manager, is a cleaner + harrasment filter. But without push services settings etc.
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And without Boot Manager & Background Manager.
Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.
ShahKashif said:
Cannot be rooted. VRoot fails to root this firmware.
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This is not the way to root the device. You must install KK TWRP and that will root your device.
@BeyondTheHorizon (assuming your working for Huawei)
My impressions, after updating from B506 to B510. Note that since i have already used Emui2.3 beta (B014) and Emui 2.0 (official) i will not get into mentioning its improvements over Emui1.6.
- Magazine lockscreen is awesome. But i don't understand why magazine option is enabled only for a selected theme, while a few other theme have weather option on lockscreen, and why not instead have them all for all themes. (Also haven't figured out what the "link" option is within the magazine lockscreen menu).
- Overall there is lags and inconsistency in transition and animation speeds everywhere.
Examples:
> Pulling down notification panel has slower animation then when pulling it back up. While on the other hand there is also a jamming lag when notification panel goes back up.
>Random lags when moving about homscreen pages.
> lag in settings sections when entering each settings item.
- I personally dont like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". The combined was much better. Even in the split form, there is design inconsistency, for example in the switch panel there is lot of free empty space on the bottom half and there is no point in having a slide down arrow to reveal just one row of switches. Furthermore it would have made sense to have the switches fill the bottom half, as it makes it easier for one hand usage. But i still prefer the the combined form which just two rows of switches and brightness option, while the rest hidden under the slide down.
- Thankfully the weather 4x2 widget is proper size, compared to the huge size on B506 and B014. But the transparent clock widget (first introduced on Honor 3c & 3x) is not yet available on this rom.
- The video player app is missing (and like others mentioned, the permission and startup apps manager, one hand option and navigation bar hiding option is missing too)
- I was hoping for changes in the "customize" section of the theme changer app. The old problem of swiping right/left a lot to get to the end of the lockscreen styles, or icons types, etc remains a burden.
- As someone said, its time to change the grey color of navigation bar. Either allow users to customize it, or have a number of colors that changes according to apps.
- In contacts "favorite" section, there is Chinese fonts.
- I don't think there is a need to have all the google apps pre-installed. Just a couple of them would be enough, while the rest can be downloaded from playstore.
- The water mark option in camera is nice. Cant find the "Cheeze" to take pics option. The photo editor is great and fun too. Video recorded on camera comes out dark. In case of taking selfie pics, once you hit the shoot button, the screen weirdly gets all yellow before taking the pic. Photos looks grainy too. But im no expert on camera, so i could be wrong.
- The Chinese rom had an app center app, and at times the latest version of the Huawei apps would be available on that. Such app updates are not available on this rom.
- The types of transition effects for homescreen keeps decreasing with every new rom update, when instead we should be getting newer ones added.
- The homescreen icons on this rom appear slightly bigger compared to them on the Chinese rom. Can be noticed when applying emui2.0 theme icons on this emui2.3 launcher.
Good and bad in B510
Good
- Magazine lockscreen is really good. I like it, hope more themes are like that.
- I like the splitting of drop down panel into two "notification" and "switches". But I hope they could have a setting to enable/disable it.
- Floating apps are awesome.
- Torch in notifications is very useful.
- Ultra power saving mode changes UI to dark black --> seems convincing that it will save battery life. Overall this rom has decent battery life.
- External SD settings
Bad
- Just hope that when I use other music players it can get the controls on the lock screen. Also, if there was a music slider to skip a few seconds of music was available on lockscreen that would be good.
- Hope that the default launcher could have a drawer. Having all the apps on the screen is messy.
- The radio widget still isn't transparent while the other huawei widgets are. It stands out and looks ugly.
- No permissions manager. It blocks facebook chatheads by default because it draws over other apps. No way to unblock it because permission settings are missing.
- The grey color of navigation bar is horrendous. Hopefully they notice this and they make it black or able to customize.
- Camera pictures look grainy.
- GPS still sucks. Don't know if it is a hardware issue.
- No ART mode
Other
- I don't know what to think about the carrier name. I feel like it's ok, don't hate it or like it.
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk
bokchoi2020 said:
At least the cursor is back.
I missed it.
Sent from my HUAWEI P6-U06 using Tapatalk
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I know, right? It's awesome having it back! [emoji16]
I'm also glad that the day of the week is back in the notification panel.
miz_pimp said:
The carrier name HAS to go! Why do they need to put it there anyway?
I agree with @warea about the notification panel that is better in Emui 2.0. Having it separate could work if you can change the settings of how you want it to be opened.
I find that the rom is a bit laggy most of the time, but for a beta I can live with it.
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The carrier name it's something new for this update. And everything else it's really just a matter of opinion. The most important thing is that this ROM must run smooth and fast without any lag when it will be released as official/final. Everything else is just customization that can be added or removed by rooting and installing third party apps.
Also noticed, my phone is really hot, even for simple use. And the battery is really bad on this rom.
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Feature Request Thread

Since we have someone here from. Nubia, let's get a thread started for features we'd like implemented in future updates. Maybe he can pass along the requests.
Here are mine:
WiFi calling
Being able to set default apps
Better custom launcher support. It's kind off iffy.
Time zone support. My time zone keeps changing. I have to turn airplane more on/off for it to reset. This is on automatic time zone.
Some suggestions to start:
-Assigning apps/actions to finger prints
-Recents menu returning to preferred launcher instead of Nubia one
-ARCore support
-Google Dialer support
-App Cloning
-Auto hide navigation bar and transparency
-App/Screen pinning
@JerryYin
You may want to keep an eye on this thread.
Thanks
- NFC payments
- Update Gamespace to add features like sounds profiles (available on Chinese ROM I think)
- Improve fingerprint and face unlock (has improved with updates, further refinement needed)
- Remove phone is accelerated message when closing background apps
- Solve issue when sound only comes through one speaker when on speaker in some apps e.g. Whatsapp
Hey everyone,
Adding a soft-launch option, in the form of an app-like icon on the screen itself, to bring up the game space would make things more convenient. This would spare the user the need to flick the physical switch every time they want to play games and would offer a software alternative to the hardware switch.
Regards
NFC payments
Notifications on AOD
Install ROM via fastboot mode
Thanks in advance
1. Notifications in AOD.
2. Auto brightness in AOD.
3. Auto off of AOD when the phone is in pocket or dark place.
4. Gesture support for 3rd party launcher.
5. Android beam support.
markamps said:
1. Notifications in AOD.
2. Auto brightness in AOD.
3. Auto off of AOD when the phone is in pocket or dark place.
4. Gesture support for 3rd party launcher.
5. Android beam support.
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Unfortunately, Google officially dropped support for Android Beam in Android 10. https://www.techradar.com/news/android-q-wont-have-android-beam
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Unfortunately, Google officially dropped support for Android Beam in Android 10. https://www.techradar.com/news/android-q-wont-have-android-beam
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Didn't know that. Because my previous phone, Samsung S9+ updated to Android 10, still has android beam in NFC and can still share files via NFC. Same with gesture support for 3rd party launcher. Android 10 by default has no support for it, but Samsung's One UI allows 3rd party launcher to use gesture. Hope Nubia could also improvise in some of android 10's shortcomings.
markamps said:
Didn't know that. Because my previous phone, Samsung S9+ updated to Android 10, still has android beam in NFC and can still share files via NFC.
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Nearby Share is slowly rolling out to users - don't know if we'll see it on the RM5G:
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-nearby-share-beta-airdrop-feature/
Bad news, I think the next update is only coming in September.
Source?
Can anyone port nubia red magic game space with all feature like boost, recording etc for oneplus 8 pro
I will pay for the work
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