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Other device and upgrading phone discussion

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I'll go first. Staying with my note 2. Not giving up my stylus just yet. No other phone has impressed me enough to give up my GN2 just yet.

According to the commercials "The Next Big Thing is Already Here"....and I have it =D. I am totally content with my phone. I use the stylus daily, it is beyond convenient and productive. Contrary to what I suspected prior to buying my GN2, the size is just right for me. I have small hands but I do just fine with it; albeit I do get the occassional hand cramp from holding it; but that's because I rarely put it down I've been totally spoiled by the size, and couldn't imagine having a smaller screen. I was putting games on my Captivate for my lil one to play on, and I giggled...how did I live with that tiny screen. On the flip side I also couldn't imagine going any bigger, with that said I plan on keeping my Note 2 for a long time.

Im trying to decide between the S4 and the Note 3 whenever it comes out. I do love the larger screen size of the Note 2.

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I don't think I can ever go back to a smaller screen, so I'll most likely be getting the note 3.
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After you own a note 2,every other device looks so tiny. I'll just wait for the note 3.
Edit: WOW this thread is a sticky now,I think a sticky should be informative not a conversation.
Edit 2: no pun intended.
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Glad this thread is here. When I had my One X, every other thread was a comparison thread. Just mucked up the forums honestly.
Good idea Mod!

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z28tovette said:
After you own a note 2,every other device looks so tiny. I'll just wait for the note 3.
Edit: WOW this thread is a sticky now,I think a sticky should be informative not a conversation.
Edit 2: no pun intended.
Edit: some users don't bother looking at sticky threads. So you'll see more comparison threads.
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The HTC One has my attention, but I'm just not sure that I'm willing to part with my GN2 yet. The only thing that hacks me off about Samsung is their insistence on the cheap plastic finish.
The fit and finish of the HTC One may lure me in...I'll decide when I see it in person.

I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.

MissyKoneko said:
I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.
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well hopefully the rumour about the note 3 having a LCD screen is false I rather have the AMOLED screen even if the reason for the LCD screen is better use of the S-pen.

MissyKoneko said:
I would never go to another phone, so either way I will wait for note3 or if something bad happens to me phone I will just buy a new note2.
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Exactly, I love my Note 2 a lot, finally feel like I have a phone that is great and has what I want.
Just finished watching the first episode of the S IV launch event the new features seems really cool for it, but just as you said will wait to see what they do to the Note 3.

I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.

ThaiM said:
I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.
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well most of the features that are on the s4 will be coming to the note 2 so the rumor goes with the 4.22 update but we will probably get the update when the note 3 comes out and it will have all those features and then some.

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I don't understand the "I hate the plastic' on the Samsung phone...
I ride a Triumph motorcycle that will do 150mph+ and it has a plastic body covering an awesome engine and frame and even better electronics ... JUST like my Samsung note 2 (or future galaxy 4)
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I'm Taking a pass on GS4 holding out for Note 3

andrawer said:
I don't understand the "I hate the plastic' on the Samsung phone...
I ride a Triumph motorcycle that will do 150mph+ and it has a plastic body covering an awesome engine and frame and even better electronics ... JUST like my Samsung note 2 (or future galaxy 4)
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The Speed Triple has plastic?

ThaiM said:
I think I'm sold on the S4, although I do love my Note 2. But... will a lot of the S4 features, software wise, is just a part of an updated OS or apps that we can use on the Note 2? That could potentially keep me here. But then again the 13mpx camera and 441dpi is very tempting.
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Not in a million years. The S4 looks OK, but is in no way a replacement for the Note 2.
1 - I will never use any of those "features" on the S4. Like MKBHD mentioned on his S4 video, and I agree, the new features are attractive to people who are not very phone-literate. If you want to use different apps other than the standard ones, you'll lose them anyway, like the smart pause. I don't see myself using any of the new features they announced.
2 - The battery life is virtually guaranteed to suck when compared to the Note 2. If it's anything like the S3, which I owned and gladly sold within 2 months, there won't be ROMs or kernels good enough to make the battery last anywhere close to the Note 2. Unless you need the absolutely fastest phone in the world, you don't need an S4. The processor is gonna run your battery to the ground with very little use, I'm sure.
3 - Having been a completely satisfied Note 2 owner for about 3 months, I think the S4 is too small! Well, anything else is too small for that matter.
4 - No S-Pen = FAIL. The S-Pen is one of the highlights of the Note 2 and I now expect all phones to have it (OK, that's unrealistic, but it would be really nice!).
As many users here said, I don't think I'll ever buy anything other than Notes from now on. I'll wait for the Note 3 or 4 depending on how excited I get when they come out.

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Main reason am gonna stick to Note2 is for Exynos processor.
I have used International version of S2 which had dual core exynos processor than S2lte with snapdragon and it sucked.
Then comes the North American S3 (big update in snapdragon processer), but still was behind in smoothness comparing international version of S3 having exynos quadcore porcesser.
And comes the beast Note2 with exynos processor and 2gb Ram as addon, nothing can beat smoothness of this phone.
Snapdragon qualcomm processer has got better, but for me are still behind in smoothness comparing to exynos.
Hoping Note3 to come with exynos like of Note2, orelse I will have to go with international version at cost of no LTE.
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I just picked up a note 2 last week and really like it,havent even looked at my s3 since lol..i will buy the s4 as well though just to check it out..one can never have enough tech around :thumbup:
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[Q] For the brave developers. Assure view without spen

I love GMD spen gesture controlling app.
Samsung has made things in these phones that the finger touch will not work when spen is on screen. It's pretty much super and useful. But, I saw GMD gesture controlling app working while I'm writing in the screen with spen. It's an error. But here I'm not asking you to fix it. I appreciate it, because you could do it with your app. Now what I need is that, air view feature without spen. The Note series models (NOTE2, 10.1,8) uses the same features that xperia sola or today's release, s4 for the air view. So I think that Samsung had restricted finger air view feature for the promotion of spen, same as restricting finger touch while s pen in use. Since GMD gesture controlling app could remove the restriction of finger touch while spen in use, I hope that you could do this too(air view without spen). so I request you to try it. So can you?

I guess bumping up the touch sensitivity could do it.
But there are two problems:
1. I don't know if the sensitivity on our device can go that high.
2. There is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.

But, s4 has same technology..
DubelBoom said:
there is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.
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But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.

Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!

ashiqrafa said:
But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.
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But the software wouldn't know what to do with the finger hovering, devs will need to rewrite parts (if possible, I'm not sure) so the app would pop the text/image/anything else.

Always, the profit is for Samsung
Intruder7s said:
most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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No it's not the truth. If companies fear such type of sale affection, apple wouldn't have provided the iOS6 update for previous iPhone models. The note 2 released with unique multi window feature and see currently the previous released s3 and note 1 got it. Also, if Samsung fears the affection for their super phone, then they wouldn't have released the galaxy grand. We should think things in the other way, if the update bring same features of s4 to note 2, n2 is going to be the best with unique spen features. It may affect the sales of s4, but it never affect the profit if Samsung. Whatever the model is, phone is of Samsung's.

Intruder7s said:
Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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Any source and note 2 features like air view came to note 1 and s3 also then why we will not get s4 features?? Maybe we will get it after some months or so...

The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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But Samsung released galaxy grand at lower price specs same as s3. for Samsung, all those are not a problem. If they consider so, then they wouldn't have released the updated touchwiz upgrade for note1. Note 1 and note2 look pretty similar.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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Ya because it did not have stylus spen.if u try note stylus it will have that..I think lets stop this ..it will be great if samsung provide us the update all will be happy

Samsung will release an update by the end of may that is after two months of s4 launch.
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i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...

Can anybody help me to get this feature? I want to open popup note without using s pen's done tap. What I mean is a way to add shortcut in home screen

thez3ro said:
i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...
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Samsung vp confirms that s3 will get features like air touch with the help of front camera maybe.
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4.2.2 Samsung official? When?

When do you think Samsung will release 4.2.2 for the Note2?
After release of S4?
Or like half year later?

Tomorrow. 7:35am

NightHawkUndead said:
Tomorrow. 7:35am
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Haha that just made my day classic

xwonic said:
When do you think Samsung will release 4.2.2 for the Note2?
After release of S4?
Or like half year later?
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Well... i had the S3 and it took forever to get 4.1 i remeber. My guess is some months after the S4 is out. Maybe two months.

May/June

when they announced note3

emprize said:
when they announced note3
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I guess they will in September, like that was with Note or Note2

Ofiicial: Samsung Will Update Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy S3 to JellyBean 4.2.2 Shortly After Galaxy S4 Release Date – Report

Well....that would be right now then....take/give a few moments.....

Who cares? I've used 4.2 it's not much of an upgrade over 4.1. The only feature thats interesting is the multi user setup and that's only interesting to a limited user group. My phone is mine. No one else uses it. Period.
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dr.m0x said:
Who cares? 4.2's not much of an upgrade. that's only interesting to a limited group. Period.
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Well, if YOU don't care....good for you. Point taken.
Let me just tell you that MANY people care for ANY update, since
not many phones are working as they're supposed to, with 4.1.2.
Myself, I have not had a proper working wifi function, since the
miserable 4.1.2 "update". And you know as well as all of us
that most users have less battery time, more lag, & so on.
But you already know about those facts.
You just wanted to say "who cares"...
Well.....who cares if you care or not?

Unless they release the note 3 they will never release 4.2.2 for note 2 owners because they fear that some people will not upgrade to note 3 due to the upgrade software.
just like we will never get 4.2.2 for the s3 unless the s4 is release

If you truely want 4.2.2. Unlock and root and just use rom. Super easy to do now especially with the latest samsung devices, i.e. Galaxy S3 and Note 2.
And with being able to download the stock images almost impossible to brick these devices.

I'd actually like lockscreen widgets.
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its not the aosp 4.2.2 we need , its the samsung "gimmics" laden touchwiz 4.2.2 we need:laugh:

dr.m0x said:
Who cares? I've used 4.2 it's not much of an upgrade over 4.1. The only feature thats interesting is the multi user setup and that's only interesting to a limited user group. My phone is mine. No one else uses it. Period.
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You used the 4.2 in Galaxy S4? or you used the CM10 version?
completely different stuff.. i want to use it cause samsung is doing amazing things that you dont see in CM versions
Do you want me to elaborate some things?
Air View (with finger if possible like S4)
Multi-windows
Sensors (next page, moving homescreens etc, I know GMD works as well but this gets integrated in stock)
Both cameras working at same time.

[Q] Galaxy SIII questions

Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?

No, and probably not...

brianrad said:
Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?
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There are some custom ROMS with multiview and other stuff. Aside from that, don't get your hopes up unless both Samsung and your carrier decide to give you new features via update. As far as Samsung devices and unique...well, that is like asking if Ford has anything unique. Some parts and engine designs are unique to Ford while other things may be more generic.
AT&T to 4.2.2...you will never know until it is released most likely and that is assuming AT&T releases a 4.2.2 update. They are very good about not giving out this kind of information.

brianrad said:
Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?
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Many custom ROMs have multi view, s beam, and include group play. Biggest thing you won't see are things like air gesture and some of the more advanced eye tracking features. Mostly gimmicky IMHO.
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[RUMOR] 4.4.2 KitKat Update

http://www.android.gs/samsung-galax...e-to-arrive-by-the-end-of-march-says-insider/
Samsung Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 Android 4.4.2 KitKat Update to Arrive by the End of March, Says Insider
Galaxy S4 Note 3 Android 4.4
Samsung has already pushed the Android 4.4.2 KitKat update to the Galaxy Note 3 users, and, judging by the recently-leaked test builds, the Galaxy S4 KitKat update is around the corner. But how about the Sammy’s 2012 flagships? When will the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 get some KitKat love? According to a Samsung insider, the company will release the Android 4.4.2 update for Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 by the end of March.
In an attempt to find out when the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 will receive the highly-anticipated Android 4.4.2 update, we’ve got in touch with a Samsung software engineer that was able to confirm for us that both devices will be updated to KitKat “in late Q1 2014, soon after the Galaxy S4 Android 4.4 roll out.” He also said that the user interface changes will be minor and that the update will not bring any new software features.
Of course, you will be able to taste the KitKat-specific goodies, like transparent status bar, new printing feature in settings, and the new full-screen immerse mode.
The Android 4.4 update for Samsung Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 will be rolled out in phases, meaning that it will not be available for everybody right away. For example, the US carriers are known for being at least one-month late to the update parties, so don’t start hitting the Check for updates button yet.
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Wonder if it will really happen.

I've seen the "news" of the s3 getting kk, but only international s3. So many variants, I wish they'd be more specific about it. With our ahole carriers having last say, I'm not holding my breath for AT&T to give it. No money in it for them. Especially with the s5 release right around the corner.

There is absolutely no way this is going to happen. AT&T will never give us the latest version of android.

I don't like AT&T any better than most peeps, but they gave us 4.3, why not 4.4?

AT&T gave us 4.3 because Samsung had just released Galaxy Gear, which would require 4.3, and Samsung was pushing carriers to update. There is currently no reason for AT&T to update and no reason for Samsung to urge them to do so. I have no expectations of an AT&T update to 4.4, but if it somehow happens, be prepared to accept that it will be the last update your phone will receive.
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They will not likely give 4.4 because the main reason for 4.3 was too sell galaxy gear. Now that there is no additional incentive for profit from the phone, they will target people to upgrade to a newer model.
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Don't think so. kitkat looks to be a completely different thing than 4.3. cm has not released a stable version yet for the d2att. could be a lot more work to get it functional.

I don't think AT&T will throw the S3 anymore updates, I'm not even using the most recent one. Wouldn't download to my phone. Oh well running Quantum v2. Not planning on buying a Galaxy Gear so no biggie. Just my thoughts....

I was talking with AT&T repair regarding my phone freezing when switching from portrait to landscape since the 4.3 OTA and they told me they were not aware of a fix coming out for this, but that 4.4 will probably come out in a couple months and it may replace whatever is causing the problem. When I went to the Samsung Experience center to let them force the OTA onto my phone again to see if that would fix the issue, that tech said the same thing about 4.4 coming out, but he thought my freeze issue is hardware related.

I agree that the only reason 4.3 was relatively fast is because of galaxy gear.
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It was released very quickly...especially since the U.S. carriers released so quickly on par with the international version. The update was purely profit motivated. This is why the international version ran into so many issues upon initial release. Samsung was so worried about profits from galaxy gear that they never thoroughly tested the update.
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