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So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
Best,
Camicia
Camicia said:
So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
SU
a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
It's actually very easy to tell which are user apps with TB. They're the ones in white text
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
MIUI, as long as you don't need 4G, everything else works and it's extremely stable. Other than a few times trying other ROMs, I've been using it as a Daily since June
Best,
Camicia
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Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions:
1)
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
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a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
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What is the quickest way to use terminal? Do I need the dev tools on my computer and put the phone in debug mode?
Where is the Dalvik Cache normally stored? I thought it was on RAM. Since it is a cache, I would expect that it changes often. Is it not going to wear out the sd card quickly?
2) The point is that I want to save also some system settings (ex: remembered password of wifis, browser history, sync settings, etc). Last backup save 203 items. It is going to be a pain to go thought one by one.
4) I looked at MIUI but I ruled it out because it does not support 4G. I use it every now and then.
Like you I was having some problems with my rooted stock (low phone memory, slow and some other performance issues).
I downloaded ROM Manager and then made a backup of my rooted stock. You can also do it manually by booting into recovery but ROM Manager is easier though some people will say is more prone to errors. Also download Titanium Backup or something similar and save all of the apps (both download and system apps).
Once I backed up my rooted stock ROM I then downloaded and installed the latest Cyanogenmod. As this does not have HTC Sense or bloatware I immediately got a significant amount of free space that handles all that I load.
One thing with Cyanogenmod 7.1, some people like myself will have freezing issues if you have less than 130 MB of free space on the phone. This is not a problem for me as I have more than that available. I chose Cyanogoenmod ROM over MIUI ROM as Cyanogenmod allows for 4G. Take a look though at all of the ROMs out there and decide for yourself.
I find that everything is running faster now and I no longer have the Bloat that Sprint put on the phone. You can also move more apps over to the SD Card freeing up more internal memory.
Apps like Flash and Adobe Reader can be downloaded from the Market and are updated just like any other app.
Good luck
Uhh, no to ROM Manager. It's known to cause problems.
The Terminal is an app. You use it on your phone.
AS for system settings, only a very few can be successfully moved from ROM to ROM. The only thing I backup is my Alarms. You don't have to do them one at a time, you know. Hit Menu, Batch and then you can do them en masse
Depending on how many apps you load on your phone you may want to re-partition your SD card if you have the space and create a 1-2 gig ext2 or ext3 partition to use for apps2sd. The main reason I rooted my EVO was because I constantly kept running out of space on my phone. I'm an app addict though and have been known to have up to 200+ apps on my phone before I re-flash it with another rom. With a 1.5 gig partition and apps2d, I have never run out of space for apps on my phone though If you do decide to re-partition your SD card you will need to completely backup your SD card to your PC first as it will wipe all data on the card. I have a 16 gig class 10card in my EVO and the speed is pretty good.
i would give energy sensation a go, i was using that rom as my daily it is really staple, great battery life and improves the video recording to 1080p HD as well as plenty of other little tweaks here and there....I am running ics-decks-pre-alpha7 which i am really liking only thing is you would have to be willing to give up your camera til a stable alpha or beta is released. I hope this helps...
I have been running the Sprint Updated 2.0 Final for a few weeks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20631581 ). I also re-partition my SD card with 1.5Gb (if I remember well). So far everything is good except:
1) I have 99Mb free on the phone. I think the main reason is that I disinstall some of the Sprint Bloatware and haven't reinstall all the apps. However I started having problems when I had 60Mb available before the upgrade to this new ROM. So I am afraid that I am getting close :-/
2) Wifi Tether has problems. I am experience the problem here: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1288 .
The workaround with Barnacle alleviate the problem but beside being annoying that I have to start Bernacle first and then the Wi-Fi tether, it sometimes stop working (I think it is when I I use the 4G and the 4g connection is lost) and I have to go though the cycle again :-/
Best,
Camicia
Best ROM is probably team nocturnal's shooter, but everyone likes different stuff.
I sure my backup root to back up and restore apps
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I use my backup root I meant lol
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I think that one ROM that's 2.3.7 but they managed to get the ics launcher on it. My ***** runs it, so I forgot the name. Sorry I use a ns4g
Edit: it's by chadthegreat.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
Yes my *****. Because I think I could do better.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
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Im on Mikg v3.0 w. Less freedom kernel and its extremely stable smooth and complete im not sure if it has 4g (im on metro so only got 3g) i do reflash like crazy but this ROM has me pretty satisfied i havent flashed in a while u might lose a thing or two but nothing u cant live w. Out.
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If u want AOSP evo-deck-(gingerbread 2.3.7) only takes up 13mb of internal on initial boot 19mb after flashing gapps and its really stable too u might have to fix gps but thats the only issue i ran into (which is just a flashable zip if you do have to) and you can move the majority of apps to sd like CM it has a allow move to external option.
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First – I know this forum is not the right place for this post but as a new member I am not allowed to post in T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II Android Development
Appreciate it if anyone could help or offer links….
Background – Recently rooted my T989 for six reasons:
1. Remove (or freeze) T-Mobile and Samsung bloatware with Titanium
2. Ability to create complete a backup of the phone with ROM Manager and quality backups of each individual app with Titanium
3. Save power effectively/efficiently with Juice Defender
4. OC the CPU (I now know rooting the native phone ROM is not sufficient to OC CPU)
5. Finally I was pissed the Samsung (Kies)/T-Mobile upgrade from gingerbread to ICS (4.0.3) basically did NOTHING to improve my user experience/enjoyment of the phone.
6. Change USB packet size with SD Speed (After many benchmarks and actual UBS transfers to/from a desktop it is clear changing USB packet size for groups of files larger than 1MB is basically useless on my phone/SD card)
Use Profile - At least weekly… I use the phone to:
1. watch various codec files and streaming online video (via HDMI) – App MX Player and Dolphin
2. email (various email providers) – App Mail Droid
3. play mp3s (through phone speaker or Bluetooth) – App Poweramp
4. play games (on and off line) – App various
5. social networking – App Facebook and others
6. use mapping programs in conjunction with GPS – App Google Maps and Sygic
7. monitor/check car performance/sensors with OBD II software connected via Bluetooth – App Torque and others
8. take and modify pictures/video – App native Camera and others
9. Web surf – App Dolphin
10. reference phone sensors (tilt, acceleration, magnetic) – App various
11. reference offline technical material like ElectroDroid, handyCalc, and Universal Converter
12. move large files (like a thumb drive) with USB between Windows computers (The only physical mod I have done to the phone is addition of a 64GB SD Card)
13. provide an alarm clock – App native Clock
14. Finally and most important Creation/Modification of MS Office files (via HDMI with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected) – App Kingsoft Office and OfficeSuite Pro
Questions –
1. Is there any way to OC the CPU without installing a new ROM? (not interested in underclocking or CPU sleeping apps)
2. Can I just install a new kernel to OC the CPU? (It looks like “yes” when I read the Kernels section links of “[REF] Your One-Stop-Shop for rooting, roms, kernels and themes![UPDATED!][7/31]”. BUT I’m no UNIX / Linux expert and don’t want to screw the phone up)
3. Will installing ROM DARKSIDE.EVOLUTION.3 provide me with any significant user benefits over my base rooted Samsung ROM? If yes, can you provide a link to benefits? Will I loose capabilities?
4. Other performance modification suggestions would be appreciated.
Tks in advance
To start this definitely would be where you post this, either here or q&a section. This would not be OK to post in the development section as it is purely for development.
Now to address your question, there are a few ROMs out there (including my own)that def do enhance performance and allow overclocking. The most important thing to remember is to Read Read Read before doing anything to make sure everything is done right. And Google has many answers and YouTube has many flashing tutorials, just a tip happy flashing
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Yes you could just flash a new kernel and oc. I'd recommend tdj's dark side. Then again, why don't you just flash a rom? I mean you already rooted your phone (which to me is the most unnerving part). Just make you sure you have the correct version of cwm and wipe cache (or using tdj's super wipe/cache wipe) as needed per kernel/rom/radio(yes, you might to flash a new radio) and you'd be good to go.
I was on dark side rom with the kernel for a while and it seems like it has better battery life over cm9 rc2 which is what's on my phone right now. And since the dark side was based on the official release it is pretty much bug free.
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I agree with ptmr3, research and ask questions. Thats exactly what i did before i did anything to my phone. Yes it maybe a scary process thinking about flashing and the possibility of flashing the wrong zip and bricking. But as long as you research, you'll be ok.
They pretty much answered your questions, but feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I got a pretty good knowledge on most things here and i like to help other members out when possible.
Thanks
God I was meaning to make this type of thread but I got lazy I wanted to heavily discuss Darkside Rom. I have flashed it about 3 times. Once with the latest version and 2 with the previous. I really liked it. ICS is amazing and the Kernel gave me a bit more battery than usual (20 hours moderate use)
When I first flashed darkside it was a bit laggy even after wiping cache, data, davlik cache 3 times before running darkside then running the rom that has darkside included... It would crash very often when I had poweramp open. When it played the music would cut off terribly into static with actions such as pulling down the drawer or opening folders/menu. Twitter would crash as well and gmail would be laggy and sometimes give me a bit of a green screen I know I am being a bit picky, but still that bugs me.. Everything else was awesome though.
Things improved with the latest version, but after a while the power amp bugs persisted as well as the slight crashes with twitter and gmail (even though I performed fresh installs of all these apps) Jeez it was so good I ignored the few and rare times it got buggy. But then I noticed that after a while when my battery hit low the time would change the phone would state a totally different time. Like 2 pm. It wouldn't improve until I charged it to 100% and reboot....
It makes me sad I really wanted to stay with ICS...
I am going to try CM 9 but I really liked darkside. Might also try AOKP as well... I never bothered fixing permissions with TDJ's darkside cache wipe Do you believe that would help? I never had rebooting issues and I never really flashed anything on my phone but Darkside.... I did flash a CM nightly inbetween the previous and newer version of Darkside.
Anyone can recommend me any help? I am back to gingerbread it runs smoothly but ICS is just amazing... :\
Also please recommend me some kernels for either gingerbread stock or an ICS rom so I can have better performance and battery life.
I know I wrote a lot but thank you so much guys.
iSchadenfreude said:
God I was meaning to make this type of thread but I got lazy I wanted to heavily discuss Darkside Rom. I have flashed it about 3 times. Once with the latest version and 2 with the previous. I really liked it. ICS is amazing and the Kernel gave me a bit more battery than usual (20 hours moderate use)
When I first flashed darkside it was a bit laggy even after wiping cache, data, davlik cache 3 times before running darkside then running the rom that has darkside included... It would crash very often when I had poweramp open. When it played the music would cut off terribly into static with actions such as pulling down the drawer or opening folders/menu. Twitter would crash as well and gmail would be laggy and sometimes give me a bit of a green screen I know I am being a bit picky, but still that bugs me.. Everything else was awesome though.
Things improved with the latest version, but after a while the power amp bugs persisted as well as the slight crashes with twitter and gmail (even though I performed fresh installs of all these apps) Jeez it was so good I ignored the few and rare times it got buggy. But then I noticed that after a while when my battery hit low the time would change the phone would state a totally different time. Like 2 pm. It wouldn't improve until I charged it to 100% and reboot....
It makes me sad I really wanted to stay with ICS...
I am going to try CM 9 but I really liked darkside. Might also try AOKP as well... I never bothered fixing permissions with TDJ's darkside cache wipe Do you believe that would help? I never had rebooting issues and I never really flashed anything on my phone but Darkside.... I did flash a CM nightly inbetween the previous and newer version of Darkside.
Anyone can recommend me any help? I am back to gingerbread it runs smoothly but ICS is just amazing... :\
Also please recommend me some kernels for either gingerbread stock or an ICS rom so I can have better performance and battery life.
I know I wrote a lot but thank you so much guys.
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Hey did you use any tools to restore like Titanium Backup whenever you put the new or updated versions of the roms on your phone?
Introduction.
In P350, we have little RAM, and everybody knows that. I'm constructing this thread to try maximize the performance on ICS.
The First Tip -> Gapps.
As we all know, in each version of Android, Gapps size is increased. In Froyo, Gapps like Google Maps and others really slowed the phone to the point of hacking it to improve performance. In Gingerbread, in most of ROM's, it wasn't a BIG problem. But in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, Gapps are landing direct hits on performance overall, because of 3 reasons:
It's size is now very BIG;
It has some unknown background apps that eats RAM;
Now the Gapps are consuming memory, CPU and GPU.
As a effect, some Devs and p350 users are searching a way to improve performance. But some problems occur in the way, like low memory RAM, discussions on thread and some others. So I'm giving the first TIP.
DO NOT USE FLASH GAPPS.
You are now asking yourself : "What the Hell are you saying Dark?"
I answer, it's very simple. Most of the Android Users (Yes, not only P350) do not use half of the installed apks. Saying by other words, Android users flash and don't use 50% or more of Gapps, so unknown apps are installed and are kept in phone. And most of the users only flash Gapps because they want them installed for nothing, without knowing what these apps are doing in background. To finish, a big part of New Android users only use Google Play. So, how we clear this?
DOWNLOAD THE DESIRED GAPPS FROM GOOGLE PLAY.
If you use some Gapps to work or any other reason, like Google Mail and Youtube, you might consider downloading then instead of flashing. But now you are asking yourself: "What is the difference?". I answer why downloading is better thant flashing them:
A great part of ROM's (if not all), do not need Gapps to work, so you can only download Google Play, setting your account on phone and start hunting the apps you use;
Because of this, you has an Greater control of deciding what app you need and want to install;
Unknown apps will not be installed on your phone;
No background apps active -> More RAM -> Better performance!
Now you have a better performance than before.
The Second Tip -> Uninstall what you don't use.
Yes, in every version of ICS the most worry of users is : "RAM is good on this ROM?", because little RAM, poor performance. In some versions, like ConnectMod betas, the RAM is very poor, according to dodo1255 . How to solve this problem?
UNINSTALL SYSTEM APPS.
Some ROM's come with unnecessary apps, and they consume your memory, both internal and RAM. To Advanced users:
Extract ROM, go to system/apps and delete manually the undesired apps.
To basic users, do this:
Download Root Uninstaller or Root Uninstaller Pro;
Open it and Search some apps that you don't use and uninstall them.
Attention: Before making anything make a Backup first! And, do not try this if you are New on Android world. If you want to do this, first search on net about this and what apps you can uninstall.
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, suicide, getting fired at your work because alarm app failed, or your mama kamikazing herself instead of jumping parachute because you didn't call her and tell what airplane to catch on airport. You decided of making these modifications. If you point your finger at me, I'll laugh of you.
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Some people just do this and get an improved performance, but if you want to go further.
The Third Tip -> Overclock and Swap.
Yep, it's a basic tip this one. But be aware of the limit of the overclocking in the respective kernel, and what's the most stable frequency on that ROM. And if you're planning Swap your ROM, do not use apps like Swapper, they do not help because they runs in background. Search and you'll find good tips on how to do it.
The Fourth Tip -> Download some optimizer apps.
Yes, i'm recomending because of other things that they can do. But do not install:
Apps that kills other apps, like task managers. They do not improve performance and really increase the number of Force Closes on your phone;
Apps that creates a big amount of cache;
You can install apps like:
Auto Memory Manager and RAM Manager Pro - Can help on improving performance;
AnTuTu CPU Master Pro - With some settings it helps on performance and battery;
Zdbox or other that cleans cache - Cleans your phone to a better level of performance.
The Fifth Tip -> Smoothing your phone in a easy manner.
This tip was suggested by gogyly.
This app, Seeder, was created by lambgx02 to reduce lags and to improve even better Any Rom. In the thread you can find more specifications.
I tested and works flawlessy, it's very good, a must-have app for us now.
Seeder
The Sixty Tip ->A GREAT Replacement for Google Play.
This tip is for those that only use Google Play when flash gapps. It's a custom market called 1Mobile Market. It's UI is like Google Play, feature the hottest apps for free (I found GTA Vice City to download here), you can log in with your google account and has a really amount of apps. I'm current using and is very good.
Link for download -> 1Mobile Market
Doubt of every ICS user ->Why my phone is having low battery fast?.
It's because of tweaks. Yeah, TWEAKS MAKE THE BATTERY LAST A FEW HOURS. I concluded this when i moved myself of ICS from my Genesis. They are almost equal on performance (with over my one reaches close , going to 2203 and ICS with stock freq. 2230). And, ironically, the two wastes battery even when i'm not using it. Result -> 1 day battery. Froyo, the more slow ROM, do not wastes battery when i'm not using it, even with overclock. Result -> 3+ day battery.
And 1 thing: Devs, do not put 2 or tweak packages on your ROM's, because some scripts was already used on other packages, making the system run 2 or more times the same script, wasting battery.
You can help on this list by suggesting some improvements that I do not listed here. If I help, press thanks.
So for Accounts syncing, Flash Gapps is not really needed? Only a account-related app, such as Gmail? Interesting... But how do I get Play Store without flashing Gapps?
dbarrera, account sync app come in some ICS roms. If not, you can download gapps and put this application on system/apps of the ROM. You can get Play Store apk file in XDA, or in others websites. If you cannot found, i have the .apk file so i can upload for you =D.
For instance, I'm testing JellyME ROM... It has Account & Sync app, but even with Gmail and Play Store (3.7.11 from a June dump, I dunno if its the latest) app installed, I can't add my Google account for it to sync Contact and Calendar data... Ideas?
Yes. Go to Settings -> Account & Sync -> Add Account, and do the step guide. First check your internet connection because it will be loggin to verify and associate your account to that phone and you're done. After all tap your account to find the options to Sync Contacts and Calendar. Hope i helped you. =D
Or use blackmart.
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Hi. I think u should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33999592
I've used this app on kamesh ICS, and it helps reduce lag. I didn'nt test it much on ICS (rolled back to MIUI), but on MIUI GB, realy reduces lag on minimum. I'm curently on powersaving governor and all is still buttery smooth. Check out and give your opinion. Cheers!!!
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Okay I'll try using it on my new ROM and soon i'll post results =D
Had to flash Gapps (tiny-gapps) for Google related data (Contacts and Calendar) sync...
I just hope that these tiny-gapps does not come with unnecessary apps. But you can do this step: Extract gapps and extract rom. Put the desired apps on system/apps of the ROM and make a .zip file with contents. That should do the trick next time =D
Just the APKs? In the tiny-gapps also comes some libs and stuff... Probably dependencies?
Maybe ... But here in my phone it wasn't a problem. Maybe these libs modifies system and allow unknown apps or other things to run in background.
Being that the case, GoogleBackupTransport (I guess this one keeps data backed up with Google), Google[Calendar | Contacts]SyncAdapter (I guess the name says it all), GoogleLoginService (Need to login into Mothership somehow), MarketUpdater, Phonesky (Play Store), Talk (Yes, I'm guilty of using it) should be the only ones to load directly into the ROM's /system/app folder?
Yes, theorically talking. But soon some ROM's will implant the useful Gapps, so we will not have to do this work =D
If the JellyMe developer includes Google Login without Gapps (and fixes the bugs already posted on his thread), I'm sold!
And how about any tips for battery life? I've tried some ICS ROMs, they were quite smooth,all good but I didn't like the battery life, that's why I'm still using CM7. Anybody running ICS can post some battery stats? On CM7, it takes 3%/8 hours with airplane mode, but with ICS 40%!! Did I do something wrong(I mean bad kernel or flashing gapps) or is it normal with ICS? Thanks
ICS is a really battery eater because more apps are running in background. And it goes fast. You can download different battery savers and check what's the best for you.
Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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I don't want to be rude, because I know that there's a lot of hard, long and sometimes annoying work. I'm happy I can even flash ICS. I've just asked if there's any way to improve battery life (especially when phone is not used). I don't think that low battery life is a "functionality" which I should adapt to.
Hello all,
A long time ago I got bored of the stock ROM on my Desire HD and ended up rooting and installing CM7.2. That was a fantastic move as the phone was now faster, smoother and had more features than the stock ROM ever had. However, as Android has progressed onwards I've looked wistfully at 4+ phones and wished I had a slice of that goodness. So, over the past few months I've experimented with a couple of ICS and Jelly Bean ROMs (PACman, JellyTime, TrickDroid). However, despite these ROMs all being fully functional, performance was always often so frustratingly bad that I always ended up going back to CM7.2. The interesting thing is that individual applications generally tend to work very well. For example, a good portion of the time, web browsing on the stock browser on PACman is fantastic - smooth, fast, better than anything I'd experienced on the DHD. However, when loading and switching between apps (including sometimes when using the keyboard), going back to the homescreen etc, the performance would often be molasses slow. Reverting back to CM7.2, sadly, always feels like a breath of fresh air!
The only thing I noticed was that the device reported twice as much free RAM in CM7.2 as it did in the 4+ ROMs (between 200-300MB, compared to less than 150MB). Interestingly enough, in PACman when you go into the AOKP settings you can enable a RAM counter in the application switching interface. This always reported much less free RAM available than the the stock RAM counter that you can find in Settings->Apps->Running Apps (why is that?). But regardless of that, that counter was very frequently showing very little free RAM (a few MBs) when the phone was acting super slow. I tried messing around with memory management settings (enabling zRAM, enabling the shared kernel paging option etc), but to no noticeable effect. The only performance tweak I make to all the ROMs is to overclock the CPU to 1.5GHz...other than that, I just use the ROM.
Is this just an expected side effect of using 4+ ROMs on such an old phone? Or are people able to get super-smooth, never-frustrating, always-responsive performance with these ROMs by tweaking/changing stuff etc? Any thoughts?
Amr
I haven't experienced any problems using CodefireX. Did you make sure to fully wipe everything when you reinstalled the ROM?
Quarsar said:
I haven't experienced any problems using CodefireX. Did you make sure to fully wipe everything when you reinstalled the ROM?
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Thanks for the CodefireX suggestion - I'm downloading it now. And yes, I always do a full wipe before installing a ROM.
Some users have reported auto rotation issues with just flashing the stable releases..currently there are two options I know of. One is to download a stock ROM than dirty flash a jb rom soon after..the directions I gave you for that one are probably out of sync. Than there's another option such as flashing codefire nightly than dirty flash the latest codefire stable release. I flashed nightly 20130219 than dirty flashed the latest stable release and auto rotation works for me. What surprised me the most is I came from a low end smartphone. That being a LG optimus one and even that had a cm10 ROM but I never messed with it so I'm not sure if it had the same problems as the ones I flash now on my I4G. Than again that LG only had 512 mb of memory
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If you want more ram and you don't need many programs to be working in the background you can just set max backgr processes to 4 in dev options
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Hi, I'm running Smooth Rom and I'm experiencing a lot of apps that reload when I'm multitasking. Usually when i listen to music and using the browser it crashes. Which i think means there's not enough ram. Any tips to optimize ram usage?. Usually I only have 160 mb of free ram when running nothing. THX
Did you do a clean install?
Might also be helpful to wipe cache and dalvik cache
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I'm having the same kind of problem with the related ROM GalaxySBean. Just sitting around (with only Apex Launcher running) I'm down to 90-100 Mb of RAM open. Can't read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
Any suggestions on unneeded system apps to freeze or ROMs that are better at handling resources (how is CM10.1/SGT7 [JB-4.2.2]?) would be much appreciated.
UPDATE: After rebooting and performing the suggested Cache clearings, I started with 142 Mb open and am now at 130 open without touching anything else. The meter in the "Running" apps in the settings area shows 272 MB in use, while RAM used by the apps listed there only totals about 78. That's about 200 MB of RAM in hidden processes.
You may want to try an app called Greenify which will stop those hidden processes if you would like. It only stops the ones that you want
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goldflame09 said:
You may want to try an app called Greenify which will stop those hidden processes if you would like. It only stops the ones that you want
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Thanks. I appreciate the input. I see Greenify doesn't do system apps, though, and those are more the ones I think are causing the problem. For example, I know SMS push is in there and running on GalaxySBean although, obviously, it's useless on a Kindle Fire. I got that one. The problem is the others that I am not clear on what they're doing or whether I can 86 them without consequences or not.
What's the footprint of the ROM you're using? I'm looking for a more snappy performance than what I'm getting. I realize nothing's going to be as tailored to the hardware as stock, but I should be able to read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
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Thanks. I appreciate the input. I see Greenify doesn't do system apps, though, and those are more the ones I think are causing the problem. I know SMS push is in there and running on GalaxySBean although, obviously, it's useless on a Kindle Fire. I got that one. The problem is the others that I am not clear on what they're doing or whether I can 86 them without consequences or not.
What's the footprint of the ROM you're using? I'm looking for a more snappy performance than what I'm getting. I realize nothing's going to be as tailored to the hardware as stock, but I should be able to read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
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Well the thing that I dont like about galaxy s bean and no offense, but its a port. Parts have a tendency to have more problems.
Second for those you know won't effect your system you can freeze them
Third I am using the alien rom which is new but based off of twa 's rom which is what I was running before this. Both I highly recommend. You may want to do a full wipe to ensure you have no performance issues
Edit I hit thanks by accident
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goldflame09 said:
Third I am using the alien rom which is new but based off of twa 's rom which is what I was running before this. Both I highly recommend. You may want to do a full wipe to ensure you have no performance issues
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Can't thank you enough for this "Alien ROM" suggestion. Backed up, wiped, and flashed and it's running like a charm.