Hi, I'm running Smooth Rom and I'm experiencing a lot of apps that reload when I'm multitasking. Usually when i listen to music and using the browser it crashes. Which i think means there's not enough ram. Any tips to optimize ram usage?. Usually I only have 160 mb of free ram when running nothing. THX
Did you do a clean install?
Might also be helpful to wipe cache and dalvik cache
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I'm having the same kind of problem with the related ROM GalaxySBean. Just sitting around (with only Apex Launcher running) I'm down to 90-100 Mb of RAM open. Can't read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
Any suggestions on unneeded system apps to freeze or ROMs that are better at handling resources (how is CM10.1/SGT7 [JB-4.2.2]?) would be much appreciated.
UPDATE: After rebooting and performing the suggested Cache clearings, I started with 142 Mb open and am now at 130 open without touching anything else. The meter in the "Running" apps in the settings area shows 272 MB in use, while RAM used by the apps listed there only totals about 78. That's about 200 MB of RAM in hidden processes.
You may want to try an app called Greenify which will stop those hidden processes if you would like. It only stops the ones that you want
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goldflame09 said:
You may want to try an app called Greenify which will stop those hidden processes if you would like. It only stops the ones that you want
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Thanks. I appreciate the input. I see Greenify doesn't do system apps, though, and those are more the ones I think are causing the problem. For example, I know SMS push is in there and running on GalaxySBean although, obviously, it's useless on a Kindle Fire. I got that one. The problem is the others that I am not clear on what they're doing or whether I can 86 them without consequences or not.
What's the footprint of the ROM you're using? I'm looking for a more snappy performance than what I'm getting. I realize nothing's going to be as tailored to the hardware as stock, but I should be able to read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
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Thanks. I appreciate the input. I see Greenify doesn't do system apps, though, and those are more the ones I think are causing the problem. I know SMS push is in there and running on GalaxySBean although, obviously, it's useless on a Kindle Fire. I got that one. The problem is the others that I am not clear on what they're doing or whether I can 86 them without consequences or not.
What's the footprint of the ROM you're using? I'm looking for a more snappy performance than what I'm getting. I realize nothing's going to be as tailored to the hardware as stock, but I should be able to read a book and listen to Pandora at the same time.
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Well the thing that I dont like about galaxy s bean and no offense, but its a port. Parts have a tendency to have more problems.
Second for those you know won't effect your system you can freeze them
Third I am using the alien rom which is new but based off of twa 's rom which is what I was running before this. Both I highly recommend. You may want to do a full wipe to ensure you have no performance issues
Edit I hit thanks by accident
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Third I am using the alien rom which is new but based off of twa 's rom which is what I was running before this. Both I highly recommend. You may want to do a full wipe to ensure you have no performance issues
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Can't thank you enough for this "Alien ROM" suggestion. Backed up, wiped, and flashed and it's running like a charm.
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I know I've read somewhere that when a program uses too much memory that it is automatically killed, but at times I may have something downloading(for example, a Mod downloading in dolphin browser) if I navigate away from dolphin browser and come right back, the file that I was downloading would fail..is there a way to prevent this besides staying in dolphin browser until the download is complete?
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What ROM are you using? The Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids and full 3.0 ROMs may not leave much RAM left, especially if you've got a few things installed that run in the background as services. You can try to reduce what's running in the background, but the ROM itself doesn't leave a whole lot to play with. It may work well for what you're doing in the foreground, but you need more RAM headroom than Sense 2.1 or 3.0 leaves us on our phone if you're going to multitask much.
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What ROM are you using? The Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids and full 3.0 ROMs may not leave much RAM left, especially if you've got a few things installed that run in the background as services. You can try to reduce what's running in the background, but the ROM itself doesn't leave a whole lot to play with. It may work well for what you're doing in the foreground, but you need more RAM headroom than Sense 2.1 or 3.0 leaves us on our phone if you're going to multitask much.
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I am using Synergy RC2 and That may very well be the problem because I see it says I have little available room for system Rom, but is there a way around this?
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I am running Fresh 4.2.0.0 and have 120 MB free system and have the same problem. Researching it, I am led to understand that Gingerbread is more aggressive at killing background apps than Froyo was. Unfortunately, I haven't found or even heard of a fix for it yet. Very annoying when Sense has to reload when exiting other apps because it was shut down in the background.
I am using Synergy RC2 and That may very well be the problem because I see it says I have little available room for system Rom, but is there a way around this?
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Not with that rom. That's the one downfall of that rom, it takes almost all of your memory.
When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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When I got my Tmo gs3 at the launch, it was blazing fast with no lag, maybe an occasional hiccup, and that was completely stock with all of my apps installed. I've been on FreeGS3 & stock kernel for about a month now & I'm starting to see quite a bit of lag in the home screens, opening apps, and especially in the SwiftKey keyboard which has always been extremely responsive in the past? I use the SClean feature that's an add on for the rom to optimize the memory & keep it cleaned up. I also have cleaned cache & dalvik regularly. The first few weeks I ran the rom I had no issues what so ever, so I don't believe the rom is the issue. I check my ram regularly and there's plenty free, and I often close apps that I'm not using. If anyone else has experienced this and has any idea of what's possibly causing it, please share your thoughts. Also, anyone who may have any suggestions or input. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to respond.
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Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I'm having a similar issue. Also running sclean which helps with the keyboard lag but it comes back. I ran sd maid and had a ton if duplicate files. Not sure what's going in but it's driving me nuts.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
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Every time you free up ram you are erasing apps that the phone has put In memory so next time they open fast. Once you clear ram the next time you open the same app it will take longer and might be a little laggy
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I understand, but I'm not clearing the ram, just simply closing apps when I'm finished with them such as Facebook, browser, YouTube, etc. I never dump the ram, as it kills battery, and the ram is holding commonly used apps in order to start them faster.
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RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
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I appreciate your link, as communicating via Internet it's difficult to know how much each other understands. However, I'm familiar with ram & its purpose, and I've checked all of the obvious possibilities, and I'm sure that it's not related to user error. I suppose the only thing I can do is try flashing a different rom, or return to stock. If the problem isn't present, I can maybe try reflashing freegs3. I appreciate those that have taken the time to respond.
Introduction.
In P350, we have little RAM, and everybody knows that. I'm constructing this thread to try maximize the performance on ICS.
The First Tip -> Gapps.
As we all know, in each version of Android, Gapps size is increased. In Froyo, Gapps like Google Maps and others really slowed the phone to the point of hacking it to improve performance. In Gingerbread, in most of ROM's, it wasn't a BIG problem. But in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, Gapps are landing direct hits on performance overall, because of 3 reasons:
It's size is now very BIG;
It has some unknown background apps that eats RAM;
Now the Gapps are consuming memory, CPU and GPU.
As a effect, some Devs and p350 users are searching a way to improve performance. But some problems occur in the way, like low memory RAM, discussions on thread and some others. So I'm giving the first TIP.
DO NOT USE FLASH GAPPS.
You are now asking yourself : "What the Hell are you saying Dark?"
I answer, it's very simple. Most of the Android Users (Yes, not only P350) do not use half of the installed apks. Saying by other words, Android users flash and don't use 50% or more of Gapps, so unknown apps are installed and are kept in phone. And most of the users only flash Gapps because they want them installed for nothing, without knowing what these apps are doing in background. To finish, a big part of New Android users only use Google Play. So, how we clear this?
DOWNLOAD THE DESIRED GAPPS FROM GOOGLE PLAY.
If you use some Gapps to work or any other reason, like Google Mail and Youtube, you might consider downloading then instead of flashing. But now you are asking yourself: "What is the difference?". I answer why downloading is better thant flashing them:
A great part of ROM's (if not all), do not need Gapps to work, so you can only download Google Play, setting your account on phone and start hunting the apps you use;
Because of this, you has an Greater control of deciding what app you need and want to install;
Unknown apps will not be installed on your phone;
No background apps active -> More RAM -> Better performance!
Now you have a better performance than before.
The Second Tip -> Uninstall what you don't use.
Yes, in every version of ICS the most worry of users is : "RAM is good on this ROM?", because little RAM, poor performance. In some versions, like ConnectMod betas, the RAM is very poor, according to dodo1255 . How to solve this problem?
UNINSTALL SYSTEM APPS.
Some ROM's come with unnecessary apps, and they consume your memory, both internal and RAM. To Advanced users:
Extract ROM, go to system/apps and delete manually the undesired apps.
To basic users, do this:
Download Root Uninstaller or Root Uninstaller Pro;
Open it and Search some apps that you don't use and uninstall them.
Attention: Before making anything make a Backup first! And, do not try this if you are New on Android world. If you want to do this, first search on net about this and what apps you can uninstall.
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, suicide, getting fired at your work because alarm app failed, or your mama kamikazing herself instead of jumping parachute because you didn't call her and tell what airplane to catch on airport. You decided of making these modifications. If you point your finger at me, I'll laugh of you.
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Some people just do this and get an improved performance, but if you want to go further.
The Third Tip -> Overclock and Swap.
Yep, it's a basic tip this one. But be aware of the limit of the overclocking in the respective kernel, and what's the most stable frequency on that ROM. And if you're planning Swap your ROM, do not use apps like Swapper, they do not help because they runs in background. Search and you'll find good tips on how to do it.
The Fourth Tip -> Download some optimizer apps.
Yes, i'm recomending because of other things that they can do. But do not install:
Apps that kills other apps, like task managers. They do not improve performance and really increase the number of Force Closes on your phone;
Apps that creates a big amount of cache;
You can install apps like:
Auto Memory Manager and RAM Manager Pro - Can help on improving performance;
AnTuTu CPU Master Pro - With some settings it helps on performance and battery;
Zdbox or other that cleans cache - Cleans your phone to a better level of performance.
The Fifth Tip -> Smoothing your phone in a easy manner.
This tip was suggested by gogyly.
This app, Seeder, was created by lambgx02 to reduce lags and to improve even better Any Rom. In the thread you can find more specifications.
I tested and works flawlessy, it's very good, a must-have app for us now.
Seeder
The Sixty Tip ->A GREAT Replacement for Google Play.
This tip is for those that only use Google Play when flash gapps. It's a custom market called 1Mobile Market. It's UI is like Google Play, feature the hottest apps for free (I found GTA Vice City to download here), you can log in with your google account and has a really amount of apps. I'm current using and is very good.
Link for download -> 1Mobile Market
Doubt of every ICS user ->Why my phone is having low battery fast?.
It's because of tweaks. Yeah, TWEAKS MAKE THE BATTERY LAST A FEW HOURS. I concluded this when i moved myself of ICS from my Genesis. They are almost equal on performance (with over my one reaches close , going to 2203 and ICS with stock freq. 2230). And, ironically, the two wastes battery even when i'm not using it. Result -> 1 day battery. Froyo, the more slow ROM, do not wastes battery when i'm not using it, even with overclock. Result -> 3+ day battery.
And 1 thing: Devs, do not put 2 or tweak packages on your ROM's, because some scripts was already used on other packages, making the system run 2 or more times the same script, wasting battery.
You can help on this list by suggesting some improvements that I do not listed here. If I help, press thanks.
So for Accounts syncing, Flash Gapps is not really needed? Only a account-related app, such as Gmail? Interesting... But how do I get Play Store without flashing Gapps?
dbarrera, account sync app come in some ICS roms. If not, you can download gapps and put this application on system/apps of the ROM. You can get Play Store apk file in XDA, or in others websites. If you cannot found, i have the .apk file so i can upload for you =D.
For instance, I'm testing JellyME ROM... It has Account & Sync app, but even with Gmail and Play Store (3.7.11 from a June dump, I dunno if its the latest) app installed, I can't add my Google account for it to sync Contact and Calendar data... Ideas?
Yes. Go to Settings -> Account & Sync -> Add Account, and do the step guide. First check your internet connection because it will be loggin to verify and associate your account to that phone and you're done. After all tap your account to find the options to Sync Contacts and Calendar. Hope i helped you. =D
Or use blackmart.
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Hi. I think u should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33999592
I've used this app on kamesh ICS, and it helps reduce lag. I didn'nt test it much on ICS (rolled back to MIUI), but on MIUI GB, realy reduces lag on minimum. I'm curently on powersaving governor and all is still buttery smooth. Check out and give your opinion. Cheers!!!
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Okay I'll try using it on my new ROM and soon i'll post results =D
Had to flash Gapps (tiny-gapps) for Google related data (Contacts and Calendar) sync...
I just hope that these tiny-gapps does not come with unnecessary apps. But you can do this step: Extract gapps and extract rom. Put the desired apps on system/apps of the ROM and make a .zip file with contents. That should do the trick next time =D
Just the APKs? In the tiny-gapps also comes some libs and stuff... Probably dependencies?
Maybe ... But here in my phone it wasn't a problem. Maybe these libs modifies system and allow unknown apps or other things to run in background.
Being that the case, GoogleBackupTransport (I guess this one keeps data backed up with Google), Google[Calendar | Contacts]SyncAdapter (I guess the name says it all), GoogleLoginService (Need to login into Mothership somehow), MarketUpdater, Phonesky (Play Store), Talk (Yes, I'm guilty of using it) should be the only ones to load directly into the ROM's /system/app folder?
Yes, theorically talking. But soon some ROM's will implant the useful Gapps, so we will not have to do this work =D
If the JellyMe developer includes Google Login without Gapps (and fixes the bugs already posted on his thread), I'm sold!
And how about any tips for battery life? I've tried some ICS ROMs, they were quite smooth,all good but I didn't like the battery life, that's why I'm still using CM7. Anybody running ICS can post some battery stats? On CM7, it takes 3%/8 hours with airplane mode, but with ICS 40%!! Did I do something wrong(I mean bad kernel or flashing gapps) or is it normal with ICS? Thanks
ICS is a really battery eater because more apps are running in background. And it goes fast. You can download different battery savers and check what's the best for you.
Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Bender9467 said:
Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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I don't want to be rude, because I know that there's a lot of hard, long and sometimes annoying work. I'm happy I can even flash ICS. I've just asked if there's any way to improve battery life (especially when phone is not used). I don't think that low battery life is a "functionality" which I should adapt to.
I have the original KF and it's rooted to use CM10 rom. However, a lot of the apps are crashing / FCing frequently and I'm not sure if it's my KF dying or just the rom is too bloated. For example, when I use Chrome browser and use Tunein or Live365, the latter would crash a lot. Even in Chrome, the keyboard would sometime not respond or won't even display when I want to type something into the address bar. I tried Maxthon and it would complain about low memory even if it's the only app running.
I tried the following roms:
HellFire JB
CM10.1 / SGT7
SmoothRom (keep saying my apps can't be installed)
All of them are exhibiting the same problems. When I use EX Task Manager and close programs, only 150MB of memory is available afterward. So should I just give up and downgrade back to ICS?
Downgrade to ICS?...well if you hate having a somewhat decent battery life I would say that would be good lol. Seriously though....the issue with Chrome and the keyboard has been experienced by many users. In your process of wiping ROMs, have you ever wiped the SD card partition to clear everything out?
If you want more memory you might want to go back to GB because compared to JB and ICS, it is far more lightweight.
Yep. I did wipe the SD card and Android Secure last 2 times when I install the ROMs. I'll double check GB roms and see what are still available. There is really no point in battery life if the apps keep crashing, it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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Best flashlight I ever saw! Lol.......by the way, how many apps do you actually have installed? Maybe tweaking the OOM settings would help?
In TWA_priv's ROM if you go to developer options and go top the bottom and find the apps section. Try unchecking kill background processes, and keep background activities set to 6. This MIGHT help, seemed to help with the chrome issue. That plus a full wipe
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From my own experience, I had an extremely laggy KF running cm10. I did a full wipe and am running twa's cm10.1 and its a world of a difference.
Here's what I did to help speed:
Full wipe (cache/dalvik/system)
Delete unused folders on sdcard
Flash twa_priv's cm10.1 & newest GApps
SetCPU to max OC
Install only necessary apps (I have ~60 apps total)
Keep as few apps open at a time
Both of the cm10.1 ROMS (twa's and hashcodes) are running very smoothly. Granted the KF is extremely limited by its RAM, try clean installing one of those ROMS and it may breathe new life into your KF! :good:
I know that's maybe a noob question but my phone had never been so slow and i don't know why is doing this..
I'm having some serious problem with my phone on every ROM that i try with Jelly Bean. I've tried stock, Linaro, Paranoid Android, Minco...but every rom behave the same. My phone it's really slow, can't load anything without lagging. I've also tried different kernel, obviously. I've made a video to explain this behaviour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V93aSq9Z0
I don't know if it's just an old phone that needs to be replaced by the new nexus but..i remember that i was doing great with Jelly Bean; about that time i remember that i was surprised for performance improvements after ICS. I've tried to cut of all the sync applications (Currents first of all..) and tried to reduce apps to a minimum but i still got this lag. It's very annoying cause it happens every 5 mintues and i can barely use my phone.
You probably have a ****load of services running.
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Actually for some reason I have been experiencing the same thing the past couple days and I watch my running services and apps like a hawk.
Nothing unusual, installed an app or two in that time frame and uninstalled again - nothing changed.
Looked at BBS logs and also nothing out of the ordinary. Something funky is going on for sure.
I am still convinced there is a memory leak in the UI somewhere since my "free memory" after a few days dwindles down to sometimes even under 100MB which I feel uncomfortable with.
After a fresh restart it sits over 300MB free and before this lag became more apparent it would always tune in around 200MB after a few days.
Now I restart every day, sometimes more than once a day just keep performance somewhat decent.
There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
no leaks here 4.2.2 axiom and rootbox
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There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
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Rebooting the phone twice in a day fixed this issue for me , Also an Startup manager app to unload all **** apps that eats the ram
yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
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yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
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not me
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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O_0 ! ! 0_o!
Godra said:
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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This.
Try greenify. Greenify some apps that are taking a lot of ram. If you have Facebook make sure you greenify that. It takes a hell lotta memory
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