I'm not the only semi-noob out here. I'm sure not many of us fully understand the consequences of having an XZL that won't let you unlock the bootloader. So...
If you cannot unlock your bootloader, what are the ramifications? Will the number of available custom roms be fewer? Can we have no custom roms at all?
Also, how can you ensure that you get an unlockable phone. I'm in canada, if I order the XZL through Bell, am I 100% certain to get a phone that wont let you unlock the bootloader? Do I have to buy the full thing off contract if i want an unlockable bootloader?
myman98 said:
I'm not the only semi-noob out here. I'm sure not many of us fully understand the consequences of having an XZL that won't let you unlock the bootloader. So...
If you cannot unlock your bootloader, what are the ramifications? Will the number of available custom roms be fewer? Can we have no custom roms at all?
Also, how can you ensure that you get an unlockable phone. I'm in canada, if I order the XZL through Bell, am I 100% certain to get a phone that wont let you unlock the bootloader? Do I have to buy the full thing off contract if i want an unlockable bootloader?
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even if you buy the phone from bell off contract the bootloader will still be locked
i live in toronto and ordered the zl online and i already have unlocked my bootloader
as for roms there are some that can still work but yes it limits the customization that you can acheive with an unlocked bootloader
sirsmokey said:
even if you buy the phone from bell off contract the bootloader will still be locked
i live in toronto and ordered the zl online and i already have unlocked my bootloader
as for roms there are some that can still work but yes it limits the customization that you can acheive with an unlocked bootloader
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hi mate, just wonder whether you still have BE2 & Walkman after unlocking BL?
edit: got the answer.
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I've been trying to unlock my Rogers Arc's bootloader for a while now and it doesn't seem to be working. I've flashed WWE firmware that wasn't Rogers branded and I still can't get into fastboot mode. Is there any other way of unlocking the Rogers Arc's bootloader?
By definition, Rogers branded phones can't have unlocked bootloaders (as I posted in the other thread, blagus is trying to work around this)
Just want to add that SIM-unlocking your phone won't make a difference either. I thought doing so along with un-branding it would allow me to unlock the bootloader, but I was wrong.
DemonicHawk said:
Just want to add that SIM-unlocking your phone won't make a difference either. I thought doing so along with un-branding it would allow me to unlock the bootloader, but I was wrong.
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Wish it were true, but it's also bad logic.
SIM/network unlocking is independent of any software/firmware/bootloader.
The bootloader is loaded before any firmware/ROM (i.e. generic/debranded) meaning that altering anything on top of it wouldn't have an affect.
Right now, there's almost no reason to unlock the bootloader anyways. There are no custom ROMs available yet so the only reason would be to root 2.3.3 which can't be rooted with Gingerbreak.
Maybe this can help you? I haven't tried yet, but will do soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115989
hey guys, ive been reading a few places and read that you need to unlock the Bootloader to unlock the phone, is that true or can you unlock it using a Code? I plan to buy this phone soon and would probably end up using overseas hence the questions. Thanks
What do you mean by unlock the phone?
If you mean to root it, then no, you do not have to unlock the boot loader.
If on the other hand you mean unlock a phone from a specific carrier, then I truly do not know... bought my own phone carrier free.
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And now I saw that you will be using it while traveling overseas, so I suppose you mean unlock the phone from a specific carrier
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UgloBuglo said:
What do you mean by unlock the phone?
If you mean to root it, then no, you do not have to unlock the boot loader.
If on the other hand you mean unlock a phone from a specific carrier, then I truly do not know... bought my own phone carrier free.
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And now I saw that you will be using it while traveling overseas, so I suppose you mean unlock the phone from a specific carrier
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Network unlock, since i will be buying it from AT&T
thanks
The only way to unlock a usa phone (verizon or att) right now its through Alejandrissimo over in the general forums (I think...)
I don't know if once you unlock the bootloader it can change carriers...
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In my case I sim unlock my phone w/o unlocking my bootloader. I dunno in r800x & r800at.. But as pax said, you can try to contact Blagus or Alejandrissimo.
You can both sim unlock without unlocking the bootloader (with a code you can buy online) or unlock both Sim and bootloader at the same time thanks to Alejandrissimo.
I have a Xperia Pro on fido running xperia ultimate HD (stock kernal)
Sony's official boot loader unlock said that I can't unlock my boot loader.
SE1 Tool does not work.
Allendrissemo (sorry of I can't spell) told me that my phone hardware is too updated (12W24) and it cannot be unlocked.
Now for my pled...
Is there a way to unlock my boot loader? I want to install CM9 but it comes with a custom kernal. And for that I need am unlocked bootloader. If you have a CM9 with a stock kernal, would it work? Or if I have the stock kernal then can I flash that after flashing CM9 and would it work? But I can't flash .img files cause I don't have fast boot.
That is all. Thanks.
I would appreciate any help.
Also, there does not seem to be an Xperia Pro thread on here so if you guys don't mind promoting this to find out, that would be of great help. Thanks.
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I was in your situation 6 months ago and I just went back to Fido and exchanged the phone within 2 weeks of purchase (using an LG Optimus 2X now that actually has an unlocked bootloader). Like you, I also tried to get Alejandrissimo to unlock my bootloader - didn't work!
Currently, only stock-based custom ROMs can be flashed on a locked bootloader. This applies to all brands, not just Sony.
Even SIM unlocking is in doubt here - I personally couldn't SIM unlock my Xperia via a purchased code (the site cellunlocker.net has never failed me before, except on this one Xperia model). The new security MCUs after 12w14 are tight bastards. Other users were successful with SIM unlock via code, but that did absolutely nothing to allow unlocking of the bootloader.
moral of the story: no matter what country you live in, never get a carrier branded Sony handset! If you really must have a Sony model, the only way to guarantee an unlockable bootloader is to get the stock, unbranded, unlocked model which is expensive.
In other words, if you gotta get a carrier subsidy, avoid Sony. Otherwise, Sony is great at supporting this kind of stuff, too bad most users can't enjoy it due to stupid carriers.
So, there's no hope? I always thought that this XDA community, and its vastness of knowledge would have a solution.
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machoman1337 said:
I was in your situation 6 months ago and I just went back to Fido and exchanged the phone within 2 weeks of purchase (using an LG Optimus 2X now that actually has an unlocked bootloader). Like you, I also tried to get Alejandrissimo to unlock my bootloader - didn't work!
Currently, only stock-based custom ROMs can be flashed on a locked bootloader. This applies to all brands, not just Sony.
Even SIM unlocking is in doubt here - I personally couldn't SIM unlock my Xperia via a purchased code (the site cellunlocker.net has never failed me before, except on this one Xperia model). The new security MCUs after 12w14 are tight bastards. Other users were successful with SIM unlock via code, but that did absolutely nothing to allow unlocking of the bootloader.
moral of the story: no matter what country you live in, never get a carrier branded Sony handset! If you really must have a Sony model, the only way to guarantee an unlockable bootloader is to get the stock, unbranded, unlocked model which is expensive.
In other words, if you gotta get a carrier subsidy, avoid Sony. Otherwise, Sony is great at supporting this kind of stuff, too bad most users can't enjoy it due to stupid carriers.
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Thanks for the advice. I would keep that in mind next time
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Thanks
machoman1337 said:
I was in your situation 6 months ago and I just went back to Fido and exchanged the phone within 2 weeks of purchase (using an LG Optimus 2X now that actually has an unlocked bootloader). Like you, I also tried to get Alejandrissimo to unlock my bootloader - didn't work!
Currently, only stock-based custom ROMs can be flashed on a locked bootloader. This applies to all brands, not just Sony.
Even SIM unlocking is in doubt here - I personally couldn't SIM unlock my Xperia via a purchased code (the site cellunlocker.net has never failed me before, except on this one Xperia model). The new security MCUs after 12w14 are tight bastards. Other users were successful with SIM unlock via code, but that did absolutely nothing to allow unlocking of the bootloader.
moral of the story: no matter what country you live in, never get a carrier branded Sony handset! If you really must have a Sony model, the only way to guarantee an unlockable bootloader is to get the stock, unbranded, unlocked model which is expensive.
In other words, if you gotta get a carrier subsidy, avoid Sony. Otherwise, Sony is great at supporting this kind of stuff, too bad most users can't enjoy it due to stupid carriers.
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this helped and i'll make sure to buy unlocked phones next time
hello,,
Rooting status:
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
does the rooting status of a brand new XPERIA ZL is always this?
Than you.
daywart said:
hello,,
Rooting status:
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
does the rooting status of a brand new XPERIA ZL is always this?
Than you.
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No. It depends where the phone comes from. If it's from a carrier, it is probably with a locked bootloader. If you buy it from lets say amazon at full price which the phone is already SIM unlocked, it will probably be with a unlockable BL.
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No. It depends where the phone comes from. If it's from a carrier, it is probably with a locked bootloader. If you buy it from lets say amazon at full price which the phone is already SIM unlocked, it will probably be with a unlockable BL.
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sir i bought it in a sony store here in philippines.
daywart said:
sir i bought it in a sony store here in philippines.
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I also went to my Sony store and they only had the one branded by Rogers so I guess you better make sure its factory before you purchase it becoz at the moment, theres no way to unlock a BL that is set to NO. ....But maybe someone will come up with an exploit in the near future.
i heard that it isn't possible to unlock the bootloader after the date 12w11.. mine is built in 12w36 so no way to unlock the bootloader.
if i use this video (unlocking via testpoint) it works? Because in description is standing if there is standing bootloader unlock allowed: no you have to root it at first!?
mine is rooted and there is still standing no so can i unlock my phone with testpoint!?
A friend has the xperia arc (lt15i) and a guy from Handybörse (so it's called in germany) unlocked his bootloader but at phone were standing 12w24 !?
i dont know how he unlocked it but it works and before there were standing no and now there is standing yes??
So i can unlock my lt18i with this video (sorry its in german but i think everybody know what this programm is and what it means)??
Thank you guys
Hope for fast answers!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anztorUlj2Y
Phone after 12W11 can be unlocked via official method only, cannot be unlocked via testpoint.
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ok, but mine is 12w36 and i cannot unlock by official method..
so if i cancle the sim/netlock it is able to unlock it?
because i have bought my smartphone by 3 (provider in austria) and there is a branding and sim/netlock.
slimy44 said:
ok, but mine is 12w36 and i cannot unlock by official method..
so if i cancle the sim/netlock it is able to unlock it?
because i have bought my smartphone by 3 (provider in austria) and there is a branding and sim/netlock.
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No, you are one of the unlucky ones, who can not unlock bootloader at all.
Removing sim-lock/branding does not allow you to unlock your phone, because fastboot is disabled and only way to enable is via test point method, which is impossible at the moment for the phones manufactured 12W11.
ohhhhhh...
but it worked at the arc from a friend...
there was standing unlock allowed no and he disabled sim/netlock and there stand bootloader unlock allowed yes..
manufactor at 12w14 :/
so i dont know
slimy44 said:
ohhhhhh...
but it worked at the arc from a friend...
there was standing unlock allowed no and he disabled sim/netlock and there stand bootloader unlock allowed yes..
manufactor at 12w14 :/
so i dont know
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Mine is also after 12w11 and I unlocked official but I had a badblock @Sahaab also couldn't unlock his bootloader so dude face we are stuck with a locked bootloader if you want a newer android version buy a more recent phone
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the bootloader isnt the problem. but i want to flash any kernel to overclock my phone. but i think this isnt possible on my device so ill forget it. i dont want a better android version. i only want to use my gingerbread roms faster and use all of them. thats why..
im happy enough if i can flash kernel
But to flash custom kernel, you need to unlock your boot loader, which is impossible unless you get rid of the carrier lock.
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