Hey guys
I love its design,but I know windows RT does not support X86 apps. This is my concern.Compared to app store, windows market sucks.I recently learnt that there is a way to root windows RT and make it launch x86 apps. Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
Alexsandra said:
Hey guys
I love its design,but I know windows RT does not support X86 apps. This is my concern.Compared to app store, windows market sucks.I recently learnt that there is a way to root windows RT and make it launch x86 apps. Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
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First of all, this belongs in Surface General, not RT development. Secondly, there is a thread where you can see what apps have been tried, and how they worked (don't expect much at all right now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934 also realize that development is ongoing. There is also a thread for native app ports: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
I personally recommend the Surface very much if you are a student (Office is preloaded) and don't NEED to run any desktop apps, like Photoshop. Go for it!
C-Lang said:
First of all, this belongs in Surface General, not RT development. Secondly, there is a thread where you can see what apps have been tried, and how they worked (don't expect much at all right now): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095934 also realize that development is ongoing. There is also a thread for native app ports: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
I personally recommend the Surface very much if you are a student (Office is preloaded) and don't NEED to run any desktop apps, like Photoshop. Go for it!
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Thanks. I am not a student. I just want to try a new style stuff. I own a iPad2,but you know it doesn't work like a real laptop.
Alexsandra said:
Did anyone try? Can I launch full version chrome or XBMC on rooted windows RT?
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Estimated x86 performance is about 0.1Ghz. Microsoft DOS era basically. So no, chrome and XBMC will not work via x86 emulation. Notepad or something along the lines of the original doom *may* work.
The jailbreak does not allow running of x86 programs. It allows running on 3rd party applications on the desktop of which just one is an x86 emulator.
Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
x86 emulation on RT is awesome but your best bet is for people to release native ARM builds for applications and they will be far and few in between. If you dont want to wait for that then look at an intel atom powered tablet running full windows 8.
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
Estimated x86 performance is about 0.1Ghz. Microsoft DOS era basically. So no, chrome and XBMC will not work via x86 emulation. Notepad or something along the lines of the original doom *may* work.
The jailbreak does not allow running of x86 programs. It allows running on 3rd party applications on the desktop of which just one is an x86 emulator.
Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
x86 emulation on RT is awesome but your best bet is for people to release native ARM builds for applications and they will be far and few in between. If you dont want to wait for that then look at an intel atom powered tablet running full windows 8.
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Or go with a Surface Pro and you can have everything you want
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Your best hope is for chromium (open source builds of chrome) or XBMC to be ported to RT natively. Chromium is definitely being worked on but has a huge list of dependencies and is an incredibly complicated piece of software believe it or not. XBMC I honestly have no idea if anyone is working on that, it also has a horrific list of dependancies I think.
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XBMC requires a number of libraries that only build with GCC.
forget about it
I have already given up RT device after I read your replies. It looks like that Surface pro is my best option,but it doesnt have slim body and long-lasting battery(compared to iPad,it sucks). I dont think of any atom device due to its poor performance. Hoping one day surface pro could be a amazing device that owns slim body and long-lasting battery and high performance.
Atom CPUs will generally perform similarly or slightly better than ARM ones (iPads, incidentally, use ARM, as does Windows RT). I believe there are benchmarks that you can use to compare the performance of different tablets, including the iPad and various Atom models, if performance is such a concern to you.
Alexsandra said:
I have already given up RT device after I read your replies. It looks like that Surface pro is my best option,but it doesnt have slim body and long-lasting battery(compared to iPad,it sucks). I dont think of any atom device due to its poor performance. Hoping one day surface pro could be a amazing device that owns slim body and long-lasting battery and high performance.
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You could definitely go with an atom device. They will have enough power for everyday tasks (unless you use something like PhotoShop). Also I've seen videos and benchmarks, and it boots faster, and runs at about equivalent speed as Windows RT. Good luck in your search! :fingers-crossed: Oh, and the best thing you could do is walk into a Microsoft store and try everything out! :good:
Even the cedar trail atoms seem pretty competitive performance wise with my 5 year old laptop (which does get the usual disk cleanups, defrags and removal of any bloat I find etc). Let alone the clover trails in these windows 8 tablets. Took my laptop round a mates to compare with his netbook, found that the cedar trail was universally slower which was obvious but by surprisingly negligible amounts. Minecraft had a 2fps difference, Visual studio for the same solution file took 0.2 seconds longer to compile, boot times were identical, time to load a 5000 character open office document (same one of course) in libre office was immeasurably different.
1.6ghz dual core with hyper threading and 2gb of RAM vs a 2ghz intel celeron single core without any hyperthreading and 3gb of RAM (well, Its registered in windows as not having hyperthreading, there isnt a bios option for it either). Both were of course using the normal intel integrated graphics.
Honestly, people say that the atom is slow, celeron must also be slow (which it probably is, mine is 5 years old and was hardly cutting edge at the time).
Personally I am looking at getting an intel atom powered device, unless someone manages to release an i5 device with a decent battery at a low price which they won't, besides, I dont need that boost in power. Everything that does need that much power I can do on my desktop.
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With Bluestack and the upcoming windowsandroid, in near future, windows can run android apps.
Will the Surface tablet then become the most popular tablet since it can run both native Windows applications and android apps?
source?
Frag1le said:
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Source that windows can run android apps? Liliputing. Also downloaded blue stack and tested it myself on windows 7.
short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
Braccoz said:
short answer: no.
long answer: windows rt != windows. While a modern pc has all the horsepower needed to emulate an ARM system, an ARM SoC doesn't really have the power to emulate anything (well, anything modern) so i don't think we will see windows rt run android apps anytime soon. Plus, there would be the "marketplace approval issue" and even then you would have no google play...
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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Microsoft is planning on releasing a Surface tablet thats x86 based. Its actually listed on there website rite now. The Surface RT IS the tablet based on ARM and any Windows RT install is ARM based and just saying the Surface RT has a Nvidia Tegra 3 processor. Blackberry tablets are able to run Android apps no problem. Running Windows apps and run Android apps shouldn't be a problem. Its just software.
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Surface tablet runs windows 8, not windows 8 rt and has a intel chip, not arm. There is the surface rt tablet which is based on arm processor. And currently for both blue stacks and windows android, the google play market is accessible. Else u can always sure load apps.
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no dude, surface runs windows RT and the upcoming surface pro will run windows 8.
your right, surface is arm so if they was the software it could run android app but it would be a lot better to run apps made for the surface. I like the surface over a android tab its just price is too high.
Bluestacks is an emulator. You can't expect things to work 100%.
I've used bluestacks and it is clunky at best. Sure it works on a pinch but I wouldn't buy non-android tablet and expect to run android stuff. Even if things do run perfect, emulation will take a toll on performance.
If you want an android tablet but an android tablet. The only way this will remotely work well is if we find ourselves a 10" HD2.
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Is android more powerful as compare to windows ?
What do you mean more powerful? Code is certainly not more powerful than other code... It could be claimed as more capable
So I want to get a Windows 8 tablet. I currently have a Asus TF300T (android) and I'm not quite happy with it. I want something that's actually productive. I do a bit of photography and saw that you can connect to a desktop with your tablet and work remotely (I need to look more into this) I figure I could use this and not actually put the images on the tablet or Lightroom. The only thing I see a draw back with the Surface RT is no pen support this is something I would really like. Does anybody have any suggestions on an RT or full windows tablet that has pen support. I'm looking at used Surface RT tablets for around $300 and would like to keep it around there. I have also seen the original Surface Pro for around $500 ( at that price I'm going to have to convince the wife )
You can connect to desktop the same way both from Android and Windows RT. There's official Remote Desktop app from Microsoft in Play store. And I don't think that it will be fast enough to work with Lightroom without any lags and other problems.
Windows RT is locked platform, without jailbreak you can use only ModernUI apps (+these few desktop ones that are included in OS), after jailbreaking a couple more that were recompiled to ARM archtecture.
If you like hacking your device, like in Windows Mobile times, it may be good for you. But if it's all about working through remote desktop - first try to use this on your Transformer.
There's no WinRT tablet with pen support, sorry. Also, if you're thinking about working remotely with magnetic pen - this will just not work. You need to buy something with x86, like Surface Pro and use your software directly on it.
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There's no WinRT tablet with pen support, sorry
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WinRT != Windows RT.
I wouldn't recommend the Surface
bucket81 said:
So I want to get a Windows 8 tablet. I currently have a Asus TF300T (android) and I'm not quite happy with it. I want something that's actually productive. I do a bit of photography and saw that you can connect to a desktop with your tablet and work remotely (I need to look more into this) I figure I could use this and not actually put the images on the tablet or Lightroom. The only thing I see a draw back with the Surface RT is no pen support this is something I would really like. Does anybody have any suggestions on an RT or full windows tablet that has pen support. I'm looking at used Surface RT tablets for around $300 and would like to keep it around there. I have also seen the original Surface Pro for around $500 ( at that price I'm going to have to convince the wife )
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Unless you really need Microsoft Word 2013, the Surface has nothing on Android. If I had known, I would have gotten the $500 Pro before the $200 RT. The Pro allows you to run non-Windows-Store apps so this means you could, in essence, install, say, a device that Microsoft doesn't include drivers for.
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You can connect to desktop the same way both from Android and Windows RT. There's official Remote Desktop app from Microsoft in Play store. And I don't think that it will be fast enough to work with Lightroom without any lags and other problems.
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Also check out Splashtop, which works on Windows 8/RT, Windows Phone, Android, and iOS and actually streams from your desktop computer at low latency. It has a mode for quality and a mode for speed, so you can select the one the suits your task. It is fast enough to play games with, though you usually have to run them in windowed mode since it can only capture full-screen video content from certain Nvidia graphics cards.
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Unless you really need Microsoft Word 2013, the Surface has nothing on Android. If I had known, I would have gotten the $500 Pro before the $200 RT. The Pro allows you to run non-Windows-Store apps so this means you could, in essence, install, say, a device that Microsoft doesn't include drivers for.
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I'd argue they have pretty close feature parity. Most apps for Android have an equivalent on the Windows Store, or a web-based equivalent. Windows 8 RT has much much better file browsing capabilities since you can use the full windows file browser in desktop mode. I don't know of any Android tablets that have a full usb port, and Windows RT supports many more devices. A Windows RT device operates as a standalone computer, one which you could connect your cell phone to transfer files, back-up, or otherwise administer it (or your Android tablet for that matter). Especially for a photographer, being able to connect an external media card reader or directly to the camera is a huge plus. Personally, I think the Windows 8/Metro interface is much cleaner and more fluid than Android's (I hate icon-grid layouts). So, I'm not sure where you are coming from saying Surface has "nothing on Android". It's quite competitive.
I just meant in the sense that RT is still fairly new and Android is already matured, with loads more apps. You are right about the USB port, though.
RT also has much better multitasking, especially if jailbroken and using desktop apps. Browser + text editor + IM client + calculator all on the screen at once, with a Skype call in the background? No problem.
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New to this forum and basically an IOS guy going way back (user not developer) I had a along discussion with a Samsung rep about the new 10.5 "S" tablet really like the device BUT so far it does not run windows
I currently I enjoy using Windows 7 Pro on a Macbook Pro by way of parallels!
MY question IS there a way to use Windows 8 ( so we can use the touch) on a Galaxy 'S' I have would love to use a couple windows programs on this device currently they need a full windows OS ... IS there a way to do this? IF NOT can it be developed? this is not just a passing flirt I want to do this !
If anyone is able to tackle this project please post.
Short answer: It's not possible.
Longer answer: Windows 8 runs on x86 hardware only which the Tab S does not have (Windows RT runs on ARM but it's so locked down there's probably no realistic way to port that either). The only way is to use some Remote Desktop application to access a Windows desktop from the Tab S.
Windows 7??
qcjulle said:
Short answer: It's not possible.
Longer answer: Windows 8 runs on x86 hardware only which the Tab S does not have (Windows RT runs on ARM but it's so locked down there's probably no realistic way to port that either). The only way is to use some Remote Desktop application to access a Windows desktop from the Tab S.
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is it possible to do something with windows 7or even XP ?
the software I want to run runs on either of those as well .... so a surface Pro 3 is the only choice .... that kind of sucks !!
I hope there is a different answer than that really like the 10.5 "S" for factor for what I want to do and the screen is awesome
someone ??
Velocityhaus said:
is it possible to do something with windows 7or even XP ?
the software I want to run runs on either of those as well .... so a surface Pro 3 is the only choice .... that kind of sucks !!
I hope there is a different answer than that really like the 10.5 "S" for factor for what I want to do and the screen is awesome
someone ??
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You would have the same problem with Windows 7 or XP. They all run on x86 architecture which the Tab S does not have.
so the other way is to maybe......
so if that is not doable then maybe the other way it to make the software I want to use work on android OS ?
is that doable ? Maybe ?
if you want a windows8 tablet , you should buy asus tranformer book
Velocityhaus said:
so if that is not doable then maybe the other way it to make the software I want to use work on android OS ?
is that doable ? Maybe ?
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No. No. No. No. NOOOOOO......
You really only have two options:
1) Buy a Windows 8 tablet(I have the Dell Venue 8 Pro and like it).
2) Find an app the does what you want for an IOS or Android tablet.
Mac OS and PC (desktop Windows) using x86 while iOS, Android and Windows Phone (as well as Windows RT) using ARM. You can't install software made for one instruction set onto another.
You could emulate the CPU but you would end up with only 5 - 10 percent of the performance.
Bottom line, if you want Windows on your tablet by a Windows tablet.
Sure its possible, is anyone likely to write the emulation code required for free? Well I know its not going to be me.
what i want
really just LIKE the form factor and SCREEN of the Galxy S 2500x 1600 rez !
What we want to do is replace a laptop for viewing data aquisiton that we use for the race team ... widely used by a large number of people , MoTeC ... see it at Motecusa.com
maybe we can not but I would really like to !!
certainly not for free
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Sure its possible, is anyone likely to write the emulation code required for free? Well I know its not going to be me.
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I am not expecting a freebee here ! certainly it will need funds to make it work ! if it is HUGE well maybe not worth it . but if modest it maybe a worthy project?
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I am not expecting a freebee here ! certainly it will need funds to make it work ! if it is HUGE well maybe not worth it . but if modest it maybe a worthy project?
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We are probably talking a team of 5 a year to do. Only because wine, but even then there is a lot of code that would need to be ported to 1) surfaceflinger 2) arm vs x86.
Lets just stick with its not possible
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We are probably talking a team of 5 a year to do. Only because wine, but even then there is a lot of code that would need to be ported to 1) surfaceflinger 2) arm vs x86.
Lets just stick with its not possible
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1.) Wine has nothing to do with x86 emulation.
2.) Wine has nothing to do with installing an OS. You can't install Windows onto Wine.
3.) Why 5 years and not 10 years or 5 months?
4.) There are x86 emulators available for Android right now: QEMU would be the usual choice.
5.) It has already be done, with multiple OS versions by different people For example here or here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auIZtmbPu_Y
6.) It has no practical use! It's just way to slow!
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I don't want to be rude, but please don't talk about things with clarity that you have not at least rudimentary knowledge about. Way to many misconceptions and rumors start that way.
Still MAYBE useful for MY particular need
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1.) Wine has nothing to do with x86 emulation.
2.) Wine has nothing to do with installing an OS. You can't install Windows onto Wine.
3.) Why 5 years and not 10 years or 5 months?
4.) There are x86 emulators available for Android right now: QEMU would be the usual choice.
5.) It has already be done, with multiple OS versions by different people For example here or here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auIZtmbPu_Y
6.) It has no practical use! It's just way to slow!
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I don't want to be rude, but please don't talk about things with clarity that you have not at least rudimentary knowledge about. Way to many misconceptions and rumors start that way.
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maybe NOT so unusable for my specific need . I LOVE the Screen rez (approx 2500x 1600 OLED) and form factor of Samsung's latest tab
I wouldn't really need it to be a fully functioning PC exactly .. if I could ONLY use it to down load our data acquisition logged files thru the USB3 port and arable to manipulate the graphing functions et all in this one application I would be VERY happy it currently runs on any windows version from XP on up ... I use it now on a Mac BookPro in windows 7 Pro via parallels,
IF i could do that with the the 10.5 OLED tab and that was about all except maybe run email and Excel do do some file sharing that would be pretty cool for me and I would suspect a number of other folks too ... granted this is not a world wide appeal deal but also not talking 5-6 people either.
the Computing POWER need to deal with the data acquisition display and all that is pretty modest ... even when running an inset on board video that is synced up to a spot on a particular LAP is about as tough as it would get .. the LOGGED files are not huge either ... 8-16 MB for a 1/2 hour of running on the track at most .. even if you tripled that STILL not MUCH .. the videos MIGHT make those files grow somewhat .. but .. still not nutty .. a tab with a 64GB Micro SD card would be PLENTY of space to work with ..
So as you see its a lot more specific and from the poster quoted here SEEMS doable .. if the scope was just aimed at THIS and not making the tab a WINDOWS 7 or 8 do everything device ..
I just love the form factor and screen for what we specifically want to do .. just seems a shame it can't be done.. if there was an iOS eek virtual keyboard too do things like name files fill in notes where needed small stuff like that and maybe send an email or export file to a XLS file (maybe much more difficult ) then that would be about it .. the native screen resolution is also key as that is a HUGE thing when looking at the data graphs the more detail you can see the better ALSO bear in mind this would be being looked at while seated in the cockpit of the race car and again the form factor (smallish compared to a laptop) is key .. never would be farther than 1/2 arms length from the viewer BUT maybe viewed in the bright sunlight at times .. thus the OLED would be awesome !!
still think not practical use ?
I hope not .. BUT thanks for the education so FAR
Hopefully Samsung will come out with a 12 or 13 inch ultrabook with an oled screen next.
Why not get a Surface Pro 3?? Even then, I would find it very hard to do work on such a small device. I work with Windows all day long and I need multiple, huge monitors There is no way I could do what I need to do on a tablet. The tablet for me replaces the magazine in the bathroom!
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maybe NOT so unusable for my specific need . I LOVE the Screen rez (approx 2500x 1600 OLED) and form factor of Samsung's latest tab
I wouldn't really need it to be a fully functioning PC exactly .. if I could ONLY use it to down load our data acquisition logged files thru the USB3 port and arable to manipulate the graphing functions et all in this one application I would be VERY happy it currently runs on any windows version from XP on up ... I use it now on a Mac BookPro in windows 7 Pro via parallels,
IF i could do that with the the 10.5 OLED tab and that was about all except maybe run email and Excel do do some file sharing that would be pretty cool for me and I would suspect a number of other folks too ... granted this is not a world wide appeal deal but also not talking 5-6 people either.
the Computing POWER need to deal with the data acquisition display and all that is pretty modest ... even when running an inset on board video that is synced up to a spot on a particular LAP is about as tough as it would get .. the LOGGED files are not huge either ... 8-16 MB for a 1/2 hour of running on the track at most .. even if you tripled that STILL not MUCH .. the videos MIGHT make those files grow somewhat .. but .. still not nutty .. a tab with a 64GB Micro SD card would be PLENTY of space to work with ..
So as you see its a lot more specific and from the poster quoted here SEEMS doable .. if the scope was just aimed at THIS and not making the tab a WINDOWS 7 or 8 do everything device ..
I just love the form factor and screen for what we specifically want to do .. just seems a shame it can't be done.. if there was an iOS eek virtual keyboard too do things like name files fill in notes where needed small stuff like that and maybe send an email or export file to a XLS file (maybe much more difficult ) then that would be about it .. the native screen resolution is also key as that is a HUGE thing when looking at the data graphs the more detail you can see the better ALSO bear in mind this would be being looked at while seated in the cockpit of the race car and again the form factor (smallish compared to a laptop) is key .. never would be farther than 1/2 arms length from the viewer BUT maybe viewed in the bright sunlight at times .. thus the OLED would be awesome !!
still think not practical use ?
I hope not .. BUT thanks for the education so FAR
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The cheaper option is to buy a surface 3 then run a remote tool like VNC to access Windows 8 from the tab s. Get the best of both worlds for a lot less than paying developers to build something you'll never see.
tell me more !!
creedicd said:
The cheaper option is to buy a surface 3 then run a remote tool like VNC to access Windows 8 from the tab s. Get the best of both worlds for a lot less than paying developers to build something you'll never see.
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just assume I am STUPID ... not far off maybe .. but you are saying I could USE a TAB s 5 to access a PC close by .... say 40 Ft away .. and just use the Tab s5 to display what it ons the real windows machine WHATEVER IT was even a MAC via Parallels ?
WHAT is VNC ?? again I am not very well versed in this kind of thing excuses my ignorance ..
thanks !!
this sounds doable .. as If I can just use the TAB when i am in the cockpit of the car (very small NO room for me and a laptop 10.5 device is perfect)
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Short answer: It's not possible.
Longer answer: Windows 8 runs on x86 hardware only which the Tab S does not have (Windows RT runs on ARM but it's so locked down there's probably no realistic way to port that either). The only way is to use some Remote Desktop application to access a Windows desktop from the Tab S.
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This is what I do. I travel a lot and some hotels do not do VPN's so I cannot connect to my companies portal. The Tab s has remote pc under gifts in the galaxy store. I just leave my computer on at home and connect to it wherever I am and my desktop appears on my 10.5. I can do anything on it that I can do at home. Works great.
Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!
I agree!
I also concur
Would be amazing.
Should we start a pool? I'd be willing to contribute $30
I like the 3:2 ratio so I'm not going to get an s4
pacorola said:
Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!
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I have a Dex dock and I used to have a Galaxy S8+. Dex is not useful, and it’s less useful if you have a tablet.
Android still doesn’t have a decent tablet mode, and as you can see from the Pixel Touch, running Android apps in a desktop-like environment doesn’t work well.
Many companies have tried to make Android run as a desktop-like OS, and it just isn’t designed for it.
All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window
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All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window
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Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.
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Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.
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Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks
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Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks
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If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...
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If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...
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Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.
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Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.
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I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.
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I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.
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Worked fine for my use case, light and capable travel laptop that I can use for work when I need to. Much as I enjoy it, my surface book 2 is too much to carry across three countries for a month. Didn't have and space issues (though I have multiple 400gb mSD cards). The Chromebook did fine and really I suppose if I needed to do more serious work I could just dual boot Linux itself. I have been wanting to try out Deepin...
Hello, i Want to know if a surface rt is useful today, what can achieve with jailbreak?
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vadash said:
Hello, i Want to know if a surface rt is useful today, what can achieve with jailbreak?
THX
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If all you use it for is Microsoft Office and the occasional bing search, I'd say go for it. It's a great tablet. If you want to do anything more, get something else
not much. e.g., you are stuck with Internet Explorer for web browsing (which is not even compatible with some web sites nowadays).
jailbroken RT will allow you running any win32 binaries compiled for ARM (mostly free/opensource software). However you are still stuck with Visual Studio 2012 for development/compiling.
getting an windows 10 tablet with intel atom processor is probably a much better choice.