[Q] Questions from new Surface RT owner. - Windows RT General

Hi all - I have an extremely busy week and a half ahead of me so I've spent much of the day (which is about all the time I can afford for the foreseeable future) searching for answers but haven't had much luck with some of my questions. I have not had a mobile Windows device since WinMo 6.1 or so, the last few years I have maintained Android phones and tablets all of the machines I service for work are mostly WinXP & Win7...in other words, "I'm a newb" in the world of Windows RT. I won a new 32Gb RT this week and I'm trying to incorporate it into everyday life but not having much luck. I've updated the firmware and checked system updates until it was no longer finding updates after each restart. I've also checked the app store and it shows everything as being installed with no updates.
1) One major issue I'm having is that the "What's new" section in the People app does not update. I've connected my Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts numerous times and the tablet tells me that things are syncing and it may take a few minutes but nothing ever shows up. The accounts do not show up under Options\Accounts either. Any suggestions as to my next step? I've also noticed that the Twitter app I downloaded from the store will not start, it shows the splash screen for the app but then goes back to 'Start.'
2) I've attempted to install some apps that initially showed errors during installation. Those apps do not appear in my "all apps" list but if I go to them in the store it says 'I own the app' and there is no option to install. As I said, this happened with a couple apps but did one specific example is with 'Evernote Touch.' Is the app store somehow showing me apps that aren't compatible with RT?
I appreciate any help or suggestions offered, it seems like this is a fantastic piece of hardware but either I am lost or there is a disconnect somewhere with the software.

1) People hub is kinda slow when it comes to updates - when I connected to twitter, it showed me people who I follow only the second time I opened it, and it was after some time. But it showed right away that I connected twitter in the upper right corner, so if it's not showing there, it's probably not connected. If they are, try waiting and rebooting. Apps that just fail to launch may launch on the second, third, n-th launch, Evernote is always failing to launch for the first time, for example.
2) When the app isn't compatible with RT, you can't install it. Also, you can remove apps, that aren't shown by this script from ms. There is also a troubleshooter for windows store from ms, but I don't remember if it works with RT, but you probably should try using it. Evernote touch is not only compatible with RT, it was written especially for it, so there's a problem with your device.

NewMC said:
Hi all - I have an extremely busy week and a half ahead of me so I've spent much of the day (which is about all the time I can afford for the foreseeable future) searching for answers but haven't had much luck with some of my questions. I have not had a mobile Windows device since WinMo 6.1 or so, the last few years I have maintained Android phones and tablets all of the machines I service for work are mostly WinXP & Win7...in other words, "I'm a newb" in the world of Windows RT. I won a new 32Gb RT this week and I'm trying to incorporate it into everyday life but not having much luck. I've updated the firmware and checked system updates until it was no longer finding updates after each restart. I've also checked the app store and it shows everything as being installed with no updates.
1) One major issue I'm having is that the "What's new" section in the People app does not update. I've connected my Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts numerous times and the tablet tells me that things are syncing and it may take a few minutes but nothing ever shows up. The accounts do not show up under Options\Accounts either. Any suggestions as to my next step? I've also noticed that the Twitter app I downloaded from the store will not start, it shows the splash screen for the app but then goes back to 'Start.'
2) I've attempted to install some apps that initially showed errors during installation. Those apps do not appear in my "all apps" list but if I go to them in the store it says 'I own the app' and there is no option to install. As I said, this happened with a couple apps but did one specific example is with 'Evernote Touch.' Is the app store somehow showing me apps that aren't compatible with RT?
I appreciate any help or suggestions offered, it seems like this is a fantastic piece of hardware but either I am lost or there is a disconnect somewhere with the software.
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Hmmmm... Sounds like you need to refresh. I know it's a bummer, but that's the best I can think of. That kind of stuff shouldn't be happening. Otherwise you could always exchange it when you get a chance. Good Luck!

Hi guys, I'm sorry for the delayed response. I viewed your posts a few days ago and apparently I forgot to respond. The issue was apparently the fact that Google and MS are not playing nicely. Even after I wasn't seeing any new updates the system was still sluggish, maybe it was "settling" as is sometimes required in the Android world. I powered down and charged over night, restarted the next morning and made sure the wifi was connected and within a few hours there were more updates showing up. I updated and that's when my Google accounts quit working and I had to remove then set them up again. I also found the Evernote app hidden within "my apps" in the store app, it was "awaiting install," seems like an update restarted the system while it was installing and it didn't want to finish on it's own.
Everything is great now except for the calendar issue and a few everyday apps that seem to be lacking from the app store. I have yet to figure a work to be able to view my Google Apps calendar for work. I can see my regular Google calendar (can not edit but can see everything) but if I subscribe to my GApps calendar I would only be able to see free/busy because my domain does not provide an option for private calendar sharing.
Thanks again!

NewMC said:
Hi guys, I'm sorry for the delayed response. I viewed your posts a few days ago and apparently I forgot to respond. The issue was apparently the fact that Google and MS are not playing nicely. Even after I wasn't seeing any new updates the system was still sluggish, maybe it was "settling" as is sometimes required in the Android world. I powered down and charged over night, restarted the next morning and made sure the wifi was connected and within a few hours there were more updates showing up. I updated and that's when my Google accounts quit working and I had to remove then set them up again. I also found the Evernote app hidden within "my apps" in the store app, it was "awaiting install," seems like an update restarted the system while it was installing and it didn't want to finish on it's own.
Everything is great now except for the calendar issue and a few everyday apps that seem to be lacking from the app store. I have yet to figure a work to be able to view my Google Apps calendar for work. I can see my regular Google calendar (can not edit but can see everything) but if I subscribe to my GApps calendar I would only be able to see free/busy because my domain does not provide an option for private calendar sharing.
Thanks again!
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Try this, even though its a long shot: open Google Calendar, and browse to Calendar > Calendar settings (via the small cog in the top-right corner) > Calendars > "YOUR NAME" > Scroll down to where it says PRIVATE ADDRESS, and click on the ICAL button. Copy the following link. Now go to calendar.live.com, and click on subscribe (above the "month" button). Paste the URL there, name it, and save! Now check to see if your Hotmail calendar syncs on the app.

That works great for my personal Google account but does not work on my Google Apps account for work. I could subscribe to it but only see free/busy, not detailed information, as our company admin has not turned on private addresses. I understand this is an admin issue and not really a fault of the RT.
The fault lies in the fact that even with my subscribed calendar if I tried to edit something it would only be seen on the Surface. It would not replicate to the actual Google calendar and I would not be able to see it on my other devices. This issue stems from the Google/MS war regarding information sharing. My life is on Google because for a long time MS was light years behind the ease of Google's online features where everything can be done from the browser and then synced to your email client and handheld devices. In this instance, the users who spend good money with both Google and MS on hardware/OS are paying the price.
Thanks for your suggestion C-Lang, I appreciate your time and effort.

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[Q] Facebook app question

I am running Cyanogen RC and installed the "hacked" facebook app that allows for contact syncing. Everything has been working fine, no problems at all. I installed Tasker on Friday after the review on Lifehacker, but haven't really set anything up yet (just haven't had time to define a lot of tasks.) Since I installed it, I noticed that the "Older Posts" link in the News Feed doesn't get older posts like it used to - It looks like it's updating, but no older posts appear.
My job is high level software tech support, so I'm trying to go through all the typical troubleshooting steps in my head -
1) Is it the fault of the hacked FB app? But it worked when I installed it...I could go back to the Market version, but then I lose contact syncing.
2) Is it Tasker's fault? I don't see why that app would interact with FB, but it's odd that I started noticing it right after that install. I suppose I could uninstall Tasker and see, but I really want to start learning and using Tasker.
Any ideas out there?
Nobody???

People/Photo Hub/Facebook sync error - and growing frustration.

I became aware of the issue when I noticed that there were no photos in the People and Photo hubs - just little grey squares. Selecting them took me to a larger grey square then the message "Cant get picture. Try again later" My Facebook and Photo feeds still updated though.
I then went into settings and tried to manually sync Facebook but got error code 800723ff.
A search on the net showed that this was caused by the data connection being dropped, but this is not the case as I was able to sync my email addresses and Facebook updates from my friends were loading.
I removed and re-added the Facebook account at least 5 times. Pulled the battery and the SIM card...all to no avail. I really don't want to reset the phone and have to reload all my apps again. I did that about a month ago because of an error with the Marketplace. If anyone has any ideas or came across this before and knows the solution it would be greatly appreciated.
Another thing... this is something I was able to confirm - at least for my phone - when I deleted and re-entered the Facebook account. The time it takes to load the Facebook content and load a post with comments increases as time goes by. I first noticed this back in January when I got frustrated because it started to take the What's New in the People Hub over a minute to load content. On a whim I deleted the Facebook account, added it back in and lo and behold... loading content in 1 - 2 seconds. Selecting a post by one of the fan pages I follow, such as Yankees or Rangers, that had up to 90 comments loaded everything in about 4 seconds. Prior to this, loading a post with 9o comments was an exercise in frustration. I'm talking almost 2 minutes.
Before this latest error, I felt that things were a bit slow again. Not as slow as in December, but still a bit of a delay. Now, with the Facebook account freshly entered I am again enjoying speedy load times. I just loaded a post with 99+ comments and that took only 3 seconds.
I am worried that this is the norm. That as time goes by, loading content in the People and Photo hub will become progressively sluggish. It reminds me of WinMo 6.1 where I had to do a hard reset every 8-10 months because the system slowed to a crawl.
So, can anyone else confirm my findings? If this is indeed the norm, then this is an issue that MS needs to know about and correct. I guess I can delete/re-enter the Facebook account every couple of months but why should I have to? It's a minor pain in the ass to go through my contacts and relink them everytime I do this.
no such issues on my HD7, maybe you should bring it to service ctr, if the data connection is dropping, it maybe the radio issue...
I have a problem with some pictures of my contacts linked to facebook not wanting to update, none of the other issues though.
nat1 said:
I have a problem with some pictures of my contacts linked to facebook not wanting to update, none of the other issues though.
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same issue here,i think it's the recent changes of Facebook that bring These trouble
karelj said:
I became aware of the issue when I noticed that there were no photos in the People and Photo hubs - just little grey squares. Selecting them took me to a larger grey square then the message "Cant get picture. Try again later"
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I've just signed up to say that I've been having the same problem recently.
I experienced the problem with Facebook photos as well, it lasted for about 3 days. Today it started working again, must have been some bugged update on Facebook side that's gone now.
I just noticed that the "what's new" feed in the Picture Hub suddenly has gone completely empty and just says "no news to share now". Very strange and annoying.
I had the grey squares pictures issue, I turned off the https Facebook Account setting and they came through straight away.
Well I don't use facebook integration in contacts.
I rather use the app for that.... I visit FB maybe 10 minutes a day.
For weeks I had been frustrated because a few of my contacts would not appear in the People hub, nor link to their Facebook counterparts. It turns out there is a Facebook privacy setting that allows a Facebook user to prevent "platforms" from accessing their data. Thus, the Facebook app will show them, but the integrated Facebook support will not even show them as your friend. There is no workaround or solution for this, other than to ask your friends to turn this setting off in their privacy options. I understand this isn't the exact issue the OP is having, but it seems to me this thread is full of Facebook/WP7 interaction information and I thought it may help others who are experiencing the same problem.
KirwanDWH said:
I had the grey squares pictures issue, I turned off the https Facebook Account setting and they came through straight away.
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Thanks! I completely forgot that I had turned that on. Turned it off and it works again.
I have big issues with the Pictures Hub.
I have not been able to upload any photos to either skydrive nor facebook for days now, and it doesnt even show my pictures from facebook, the only thing I have there is "Camera Roll" and "Saved Pictures".
I get the message "We cant upload pictures at the moment, try again later".
I have two Omnia7's right now, it works just fine on one, not the other.
KirwanDWH said:
I had the grey squares pictures issue, I turned off the https Facebook Account setting and they came through straight away.
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Hey! I'm running into the same problem as described by the OP and I'd like to try out your solution - I'm just not sure what you mean by the https facebook account setting. Where could I find that?
I currently have secure browsing as disabled when viewing my facebook account in a pc browser through facebook's own website, under account settings > security
No problems like what's described in the OP but I did notice that not as many posts are displayed as before.

[LIST] Post-NoDo Update - Quirks, Problems, Issues [UPDATED LIST]

I didn't see a thread about any issues regarding post-Nodo forced update. I originally posted my issue, but have since resolved mine, but there are some out there with issues. Post them here, I'll try to keep main page updated w/ any options/suggestions for FIXES. Thanks
Samsung Focus
3rd Party Live Tiles loss of function (FIX - Hard-Reset, but consider ramifications (Keep NoDo update, but lose Chevron) - (1 user)
Theme color changers - (1 user)
USB Connection w/ Zune issue, will transfer a certain amount (i.e. ~4gb) and then present with an error - (3 users - 3 have SD cards installed - Error code c000d124d reported by 1, not sure of other 2)
Attempt to access "find my phone" - gives "setting up find my phone" - dialog box with OK option - phone immediately returns back to start screen - (1 user)
Phone has been displaying the roaming triangle and cell data not working as long as the data roaming options is "don't roam" - (1 user)
HTC HD7
Loss of vibration on connect (when making a phone call) - (1 user)
Official Twitter App crash when clicking on link within a twit - (1 user)
Dell Venue Pro
Increase in phone crash, especially in IE - (1 user)
LG
Loss of all synced Zune Pass material and playlists during sync - (1 user)
Unknown Manufacturer
Loss of Calendar and Contact sync capabilities w/ Live account - (1 user)
More than one Manufacturer
Poor screen quality on certain web pages (i.e. Bing pictures, WPCentral webpage) - (4 users)
Lock screen screen wrapping not functioning - (2 users - 1 after pre-NoDo force, 1 after NoDo force)
Some users have experienced loss of 3rd Party Live Tiles and FIXED with uninstall w/ re-installing. Others, including myself, have had no luck w/ uninstall-reinstall fix, but did have success w/ Hard Reset.
Weatherbug works just fine for me. Motweets does as well. AP mobile and flixster work as well. Everything is working for me. Not problems here.
Lucky dog
Nice. I guess it's a personal issue with my device. I've heard of people having this issue just in general, and sometimes a hard reset worked. I'm just afraid of going back to the original pre-pre-nodo settings. Would that be the case? or would a hard reset still have nodo update on it?
everything is working good for me as well....only app giving me problems is one of the theme color changers and just my luck is was my fav one...no problems with marketplace apps...
I just updated my Focus on AT&T. The only problem I've found is with the Zune software. I'm currently re-syncing my entire music collection back to the phone (since I had to remove a lot of content to get the install to go through), and after a random amount of time, the sync will stop. The error is that the USB connection has been removed, but it hasn't been touched.
webbstar842 said:
Nice. I guess it's a personal issue with my device. I've heard of people having this issue just in general, and sometimes a hard reset worked. I'm just afraid of going back to the original pre-pre-nodo settings. Would that be the case? or would a hard reset still have nodo update on it?
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Some of my live tiles have been blank in the past but rebooting fixed some, just opening the program from the tile fixed some, re-pinning fixed one and reinstalling fixed another.
Anybody notice that you make a phone call it no longer vibrates on connect? I really liked that... wonder if there's a way to bring it back...?
I played it safe and uninstalled all 3rd party apps, deleted all provxml files but left it dev unlocked as i did nodo update. Seems to have paid off cos it is still unlocked and sideloading is still possible.
dememted1 said:
I played it safe and uninstalled all 3rd party apps, deleted all provxml files but left it dev unlocked as i did nodo update. Seems to have paid off cos it is still unlocked and sideloading is still possible.
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QUite unnecessary if you would've followed the Prevent Relock instructions. I just left mine registry unlocked and updated to NoDo and my phone and all 3rd party apps are still functional. Even installed an XAP just to be sure.
Please have these types of discussions in WP7 General. These do not contribute or add anything specifically along the lines of hacking WP7, just discussing official update issues.
~~Tito~~
~~Tito~~ said:
Please have these types of discussions in WP7 General. These do not contribute or add anything specifically along the lines of hacking WP7, just discussing official update issues.
~~Tito~~
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10-4 there big dog. So, about this vibrate on connect issue...anybody got any ideas? Maybe it's a setting in the registry?
Posted this on the Omnia form but no replies....Screen resoluti1on on my Omnia is poorer for some web pages (specifically noticed the pictures on Bing are really banded but used to be crystal clear, WPCentral webpage also even more banded than it used to be).
Anyone else noticed this? was hoping there may be a firmware fix, but haven't found anything (was running XEN JK1 prior to the NoDo update).
gc48067 said:
Posted this on the Omnia form but no replies....Screen resoluti1on on my Omnia is poorer for some web pages (specifically noticed the pictures on Bing are really banded but used to be crystal clear, WPCentral webpage also even more banded than it used to be).
Anyone else noticed this? was hoping there may be a firmware fix, but haven't found anything (was running XEN JK1 prior to the NoDo update).
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I thought it was just me but now that you mention it I have noticed this. I have a samsung focus.
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10-4 there big dog. So, about this vibrate on connect issue...anybody got any ideas? Maybe it's a setting in the registry?
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I still have the vibrate on connect on my T-MoUS HD7
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TOA Duck said:
I thought it was just me but now that you mention it I have noticed this. I have a samsung focus.
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woah, I just noticed the same thing, samsung focus here
also, when i attempt to access "find my phone" it gives me a "setting up find my phone..." dialog box with an ok button, when I hit the ok it goes back to my start screen
Fixed my issue
I said "F it" and did a hard reset, and, voila, after downloading all my 3rd party apps again, the live tiles are working. Didn't take long to set everything back up, as outlook had all of my contacts set up. It restored to factory settings, but with NoDo update
Yahoo! Issues
I installed NoDo Yesterday and this morning I went to check my e-mails however now I cant sync my e-mails with yahoo! anymore =S anyone else having the same problem? Or hopefully know how to fix it?
Nevermind fixed it myself apparently when it updated to NoDo Yahoo! figured it connecting was suspicious so I changed my password and all works now =) Thanks anyway!
I lost windows live calendar and contact sync. Even inside of Settings>email & accounts>Windows Live, I only have the checkbox to sync email. I tried adding another Windows Live account and that is able to sync both contacts and calendar. I am going to try to remove the original account and re-add it. Will post results shortly.
Edit: So you can't even delete the original Windows Live account you set your phone up with. I don't want to hard reset, but I will if I have to. Any other ideas?
I noticed after the Pre-NoDo Update that on the Lock Screen text is running off the screen instead of wrapping, so now it looks like utter **** in addition to being unreadable because my Calendar is filled with items that may start off the same, but the part that isn't hte same is off the screen. I'm 100% sure this was wrapping before that Pre-Update. Before it looked like this:
Calendar Item Line 1
Calendar Item Line 2
Calendar Location
Time
Now it looks like this:
Calendar Item Line 1 Cale {rest cut off}
Location
Time

[Q] Google Talk Not updating?

When I had the Razr before the Nexus, the Google Talk kept constantly updated in real time. With the Nexus, conversations would stop updating as soon as I exit the Google Talk screen, and they would only update again when someone responds to me, not even when I message them.
I've looked under google talk settings, no dice
I've looked under the nexus settings, can't find anything
Can someone help me out here?
I'm also new to phones, but I use Gtalk more than any other app, was wondering if we can make a widget for it?
I did in fact find a homebrew widget for Google Talk, but it didn't refresh in real time either and I didn't find it very useful otherwise.
Nowadays I just keep my screen on and open on Google Talk, but that sucks up batteries and I'd just rather learn how to get Google Talk to stay connected
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When I had the Razr before the Nexus, the Google Talk kept constantly updated in real time. With the Nexus, conversations would stop updating as soon as I exit the Google Talk screen, and they would only update again when someone responds to me, not even when I message them.
I've looked under google talk settings, no dice
I've looked under the nexus settings, can't find anything
Can someone help me out here?
I'm also new to phones, but I use Gtalk more than any other app, was wondering if we can make a widget for it?
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Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps.
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Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
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First of all, thank you for the detailed response, it's the most I've received so far and I thank you for your effort. On that note, I've played with all 3 of these settings before and they've been right for a few weeks now.
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2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
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I have my computer and this phone linked to the talk account, that's it.
And here's where it differs from your experiences I think, with my RAZR, the phone DID in fact keep up to date with whatever conversation happened on my computer. Weird thing with the Nexus is, it just ... completely stops working, and doesn't update when I have a conversation online, that's the weirdest part, because when I use the Phone gchat again, a flood of updates stream in, and that takes a lot of time... and it doesn't even get it all.
Funny story, I had a fight with my gf and she tried to use a piece of gchat conversation on my phone as defense... and she couldn't find it
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I have my computer and this phone linked to the talk account, that's it.
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I'm doing almost the exact same setup with my SGSII. I go back and forth between Talk on the phone, the Talk app on my PC, and super rarely on the Xoom.
For me, when I'm using the phone, the PC app does NOT get updated. It only stores what I do with it. The phone app however gets EVERYTHING. If I'm talking on the PC, when I pick the phone up and check the conversation, its perfectly up to date.
I'm posting here, because I've got the GN ordered, and of course will be using Talk on it alot.
On another note, have you tried an aftermarket app for IM's? Maybe it will work better? After looking around, and reading some reviews I grabbed IMO chat off the market, but I haven't tried it yet....

[Q] "An update is required to access Samsung services"

Keep getting a popup warning every morning when we turn on our Note 8.0 then start the wi-fi that says: "An update is required to access Samsung services". So far we've answered "No" each time the warning is displayed until I find out what they want to update and just how much extra data will be deposited onto the tab if we allow it.
Yeah...I'm paranoid but the fact is, we don't use any Samsung services. I'd really like to turn the Samsung account OFF if that's a safe thing to do.
What do you say Note 8.0/Android community? Should I allow the update or would turning off the Samsung account stop the update notices???
EnzoS
I believe you can turn off the account, as a fact I have mine turned off and whenever I re-flash a new Rom either Stock or Custom I always say No to the Samsung account, but you can remove/delete your Samsung account by going here https://account.samsung.com/membership/service/getServieInfoList.do sign in, profile, remove account.
On your tablet it will still show Samsung account and you will notice that it cannot sync "sync error" when you click that it will try to sync and will fail, after that the Samsung account will be gone or if you do see "remove account" just remove it with that.
I will include a picture of the services that will be stopped.
Hoping this helps
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I believe you can turn off the account, as a fact I have mine turned off and whenever I re-flash a new Rom either Stock or Custom I always say No to the Samsung account, but you can remove/delete your Samsung account by going here https://account.samsung.com/membership/service/getServieInfoList.do sign in, profile, remove account.
On your tablet it will still show Samsung account and you will notice that it cannot sync "sync error" when you click that it will try to sync and will fail, after that the Samsung account will be gone or if you do see "remove account" just remove it with that.
I will include a picture of the services that will be stopped.
Hoping this helps
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Another U break it by disabling it thread... I see this all the time with peeps disabling features in MS Windows.
I use Samsung account to get the latest Samsung updates. Without your updates, your link, OS update, and most of all Miracast sync will not properly function. As there are bug fixes and added features.
I even have Google play store setup to be automated with updates as well. It is the only way to track the 200 or so downloaded apps being fixed and what not. Still waiting for 100% compatibility for Android 4.4.x... which may never be. HA!
Though I use dummy a google email account that are setup with features disabled. Google has buried a lot of user settings, but at least you have them to disable.
@gooberdude you telling us that if you don't setup the Samsung account you will NOT get an OS update? I find that strange cause as I said before I never set it up and still was getting my OS updates when I checked for updates, now of course after I Root the device with either CF-root or "the always mentioned by you" Saferoot, it will say that my device is modified and that there are no updates available.
I really don't see the point of a Samsung account and feel that Samsung is wasting resources/battery with constant syncing in trying to duplicate stuff (calendar, email, app store, etc) by putting an additional and IMHO unnecessary layer into the OS that Google already does.
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Harjan112 said:
@gooberdude you telling us that if you don't setup the Samsung account you will NOT get an OS update? I find that strange cause as I said before I never set it up and still was getting my OS updates when I checked for updates, now of course after I Root the device with either CF-root or "the always mentioned by you" Saferoot, it will say that my device is modified and that there are no updates available.
I really don't see the point of a Samsung account and feel that Samsung is wasting resources/battery with constant syncing in trying to duplicate stuff (calendar, email, app store, etc) by putting an additional and IMHO unnecessary layer into the OS that Google already does.
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I use saferoot and it does not show device is modified, because it is not flashed. Many root options require flashing, saferoot does not. So the flag is left alone.
Now for Samsung apps, you must have an account to use half of them. So if you are not using any Samsung apps, then don't bother with making an account.
I think you can still use the Samsung voice commander without an account... as it is at least 2x faster than Google and works just the same.
Its all up to you on what you want to do for getting updates. For me I get 3% battery drain every 12 hours when in sleep mode with WIFI enabled. Including having updates and email active. That is too small to think about disabling accounts or turning off sync and updates.
It seems too many Android peeps tweak things so much that they are paranoid by not doing enough. I am a minimalist. I do what I can with what I got, and find what is the issue before modifying, adding or removing stuff. I have found that Samsung and Google can interact well with each other to make operation of the tablet quick and stable. Though, Google needs to work more on getting things right with voice search and media player.
At least Samsung has addressed and fixed many wee issues with proper updates since January and March. Just waiting for 4.4.x to be released so I have that available when I want to upgrade.
@gooberdude don't hear me wrong, I am completely with you as far as the paranoia goes, I myself am a firm believer of Stock Rom with minimal tweaks, when it comes to updates I always check manually, I use the tablet mostly for reading my ebooks and occasional web browsing, email and getting good battery life, right now I'm at 2 days and 6 hours with 32% left, of course I enable my wifi when I need it.
I actually did send you a PM a few days ago asking about safe-root, don't know if you have seen or gotten that or not, I would like to start using safe-root to it full potential
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Here is the original link it has a step by step guide and has a reply with someone's video as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
gooberdude said:
Here is the original link it has a step by step guide and has a reply with someone's video as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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Thank you, I will give it another try later today
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Thanks guys for the comments and recommendations but perhaps I didn't make myself totally clear in the initial posting. I'd simply like to know if I can avoid being bothered to update my account or apps or whatever by turning off the Samsung account on the tablet. I don't have to (nor do I want to) delete the Samsung account entirely. I just want to take it off the tablet (turn it off/disable it) with hopes that the popups warning me that "An update is required to access Samsung services" will go away.
As I stated earlier, we don't use any Samsung services and don't even download any apps from the Samsung apps store. As Harjan112 said: "...Samsung is wasting resources/battery with constant syncing in trying to duplicate stuff (calendar, email, app store, etc) by putting an additional and IMHO unnecessary layer into the OS that Google already does." We also are quite minimalistic and are very happy to run the tab with as little as possible running in the background and only update what we use if absolutely necessary.
Your comments in this regard will be appreciated.
EnzoS
You can remove the account from the tablet without deleting it entirely.
Go to your settings... Accounts... Click Samsung account then on the right side of the screen you will see Accounts with your email address click that, then in the top right corner you should see remove account.
This also should stop the update notice.
Hoping this helps
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Harjan112...thank you very much for the detailed information. I needed to be assured that removing the Samsung account from the Note 8.0 was the right way to go and your explanation seems to be right on the money. The tab is my wife's and I don't think she would appreciate it too much if I decided to root the thing and experiment on it in any way (ha).
Now if I could only get an answer to my other problem: the Gallery's data file bloating itself for no apparent reason every time the tab is turned on or rebooted. It's pretty strange that (so far) 118 people have viewed the posting but not one reply...not even a foolish recommendation (ha).
Thank you again. I will definitely give it a try now.
EnzoS
Now if I could only get an answer to my other problem: the Gallery's data file bloating itself for no apparent reason every time the tab is turned on or rebooted. It's pretty strange that (so far) 118 people have viewed the posting but not one reply...not even a foolish recommendation (ha)
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Lol... where exactly did you ask that question Are you sure it was in this thread
Anywho what do you mean by bloating? As in let say book covers for ebooks or album art for music or web albums?
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Thank you for your interest in my "other" problem. I did indeed post my question in the Galaxy Note 8.0 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread as: "GN8 Gallery data eating up drive space" back on the 1st of March. I thought I was fairly clear on the description and I would appreciate it if you would check it out. I'd be more than happy if you had questions for me as I'm baffled by what's happening. Please read my post.
Best regards,
EnzoS
EnzoS. said:
Thank you for your interest in my "other" problem. I did indeed post my question in the Galaxy Note 8.0 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread as: "GN8 Gallery data eating up drive space" back on the 1st of March. I thought I was fairly clear on the description and I would appreciate it if you would check it out. I'd be more than happy if you had questions for me as I'm baffled by what's happening. Please read my post.
Best regards,
EnzoS
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Ah, well we did not follow your past question... I found with my antivirus app, that I get over 350MB of cached images just with my mp3 ID3 tags having album art.
I found that if you install Xposed framework and add the Wanam Xposed module, you have he ability to disable caching of images. Since disabling, I get zero cache. As for clearing the cache, you will either add a cleaner app or replace your antivirus with one that has built in added utilities.
Though one thing about disabling cache, you will notice slower image redraws with any images that are stored on slow SD cards. I have 633x UHS-1 SD card installed, and do not find images having issues with delayed image redraws from SD.
Hope this helps.

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