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Buying TP2 from US to use in UK?

Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.

Go Vodafone. Far better customer service than o2. Was a loyal o2 customer for about 5 years and was sick of not being able to understand indian accents on customer support. Gave up went to vodafone, got TP2. Profit.
As for the bands I am unsure. Just my input about netwroks. Sorry if it wasnt what you wanted.

I believe that that T-Mobile US version is compatible and the AT&T Version (which isn't out yet) definitely is. None of the US versions have front cameras, though. You will also need to find someone with AT&T that will request the unlock code for you (unless you find it unlocked on eBay).

Thanks for your quick response!
I tried going via Vodafone but the TP2 is currently only available to business customers. And because I have only moved house last month they rejected my application (didn't pass their credit check, apparently, despite having not missed a single credit payment, ever, in my life...). They did say I can apply again in 3 months, but I don't think I can wait that long, as I've been eye-ing the TP2 for like 3 months, waiting for my O2 contract to end!
I hear that the TP2 in the states are getting a regular 3mm plug for audio, which is a plus, but loses the front camera... hmm, trade offs! But at the risk of them incompatibility... perhaps a UK version is in order...

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/
there you go

yep go to MPD get a unlocked unbranded with a voda contract thats what i did £25 for the phone and 750 mins 250 text unlimited internet for £33 a month

Thirding MPD, 25 quid contract 18 months + web and walk.
Paid £50 for the phone. This gets a pristine unlocked oem phone which can be invaluable later on when the roms etc start coming out!
As far as the bands go- Im pretty sure you will be fine- if you have a look at this list:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/com...[0]=3478&phones[1]=2879&phones[2]=1590&area=2
It compares the Euro TP2 with the US touch pro and a sidekick (which should give a fair indication of what bands are used)
This site gives the bands and coverage for a load of networks over the pond so you should be able to check if you will get service:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml

The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...

solsearch said:
The Tmobile US version will work with 2G in Europe but not 3G.
The Sprint, Verizon, and Telus ones will work with 2G and 3G. Though I don't know if you need to unlock it or not...
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Thanks that is very helpful. I think I will follow the advice of others and go with MPD for a new contract. Thanks again everyone! I cant wait to get my hands on the TP2.

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CuteCutie said:
Hi, I have been looking at getting a TP2 in the UK but they seem to be gold dust at the moment (as evident by a few other posters here complaining that T-Mobile and O2 are currently not stocking the phone due to "similarity with iPhone, N97, etc".). Anyway I am thinking of buying it on eBay and as I might be heading to the states soon, I was thinking of getting the TP2 in the US, unlocked. But I am not sure if the networks are compatible for use on O2 network in the UK. Apologies in advance for the ingorance...! Any advice would be helpful. Cheers.
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When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.

At0mAng said:
When and where are you coming to the US? I have Euro version of phone and live in the US. If you buy US version you can not use 3G in ohter parts of the world. Same for Euro 3G can not be used in States. Maybe you can get US 3G version and then we can trade
If you come to New York City you can buy from store....mobilecityonline.com or at their actual store.
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AT&T's HTC phones with 3G all have 2100MHz, I am sure the Tile 2 (Touch Pro 2 for AT&T) will also. This means it will work with European 3G as well as AT&T 3G.

I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).

solsearch said:
I don't know about the AT&T version working in Europe. According to statements here and elsewhere the AT&T band, despite being classified as 2100mhz is slightly different from the rest of the world's 2100mhz bands, making it incompatible with them (I can't testify to this, it's just what I've read).
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Thats the T-Mobile version with the different 2100MHz. It has 1700MHz and 2100MHz, one for download and one for uplink. The European 2100MHz is 2100MHz for both downlink and uplink. The 2100MHz included on AT&T handsets is the European 2100MHz and not the T-Mobile version (which is referred to as 1700MHz to get around confusion).
The T-Mobile version's specifications list 1700MHz/2100MHz. I do not know if they are referring only to their bands where one is downlink and one is uplink or if they mean 1700MHz (1700MHz/2100MHz) AND European 2100MHz. I would bet that it includes European 3G but I am not positive.

Sorry, my bad. I get those companies mixed up

Yes I have been worried about the whole slightly different band and therefore it may or may not work in Europe!
I am having trouble with phone contracts at the moment because I have just moved home so my credit rating is completely annhilated and it just takes too long for the credit company to sort it out. In the end I have used eBay and bought a Vodafone branded TP2. I am sticking with O2 simplicity SIM at the moment as a rolling 30 day contract. I've not had too much trouble with O2 customer service, I always seem to get non-Indian, English speaking folks, but retention line was unprepared to make any offer at all which baffled me!
Anyway, onto the exciting (and somewhat scary prospect!) of getting to grips with Hard SPL and custom Roms!
PS, sorry At0mAng I got your message too late! I was thinking of California.

Where can I get a Tilt2 in Canada (for use on Rogers)

Does anyone know where i can buy a Tilt2 here in Canada? I want the Tilt2 because it'll give me 3G speed on rogers whereas the TP2 from the UK won't
thanks
-j

There are Tilt 2s on eBay now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170394416368
Funny you can buy it on eBay before you can from AT&T...

make sure it is a t7381
that is the Australian model that supports Rogers 3G, HSPA
the north american ones do not, they are 7373 i believe
it needs to work on gprs 850 for use with rogers, otherwise all you get is edge
look for the australian telstra phones on ebay, i got mine from personal digital

enilkciw,
thanks for the ebay link.
goodpill,
thanks for that critical piece of info.
I actually own a HTC TP2 (purchased from the UK) and I'll i get is Edge speeds (just like you said). I'm looking to replace the one I have with one that supports 3G speeds (including simultaneous voice and data connectivity).
I assumed that since Rogers & AT&T share a common network that buying a Tilt2 would work on Rogers. Obviously i need to do much more research before buying a replacement.
-j

johnmclean said:
enilkciw,
thanks for the ebay link.
goodpill,
thanks for that critical piece of info.
I actually own a HTC TP2 (purchased from the UK) and I'll i get is Edge speeds (just like you said). I'm looking to replace the one I have with one that supports 3G speeds (including simultaneous voice and data connectivity).
I assumed that since Rogers & AT&T share a common network that buying a Tilt2 would work on Rogers. Obviously i need to do much more research before buying a replacement.
-j
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the tilt2 will work on rogers 3G because the tilt2 has 850/1900/2100 3G bands

omaralt said:
the tilt2 will work on rogers 3G because the tilt2 has 850/1900/2100 3G bands
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this seems to be the case, although you don't get the front camera (you do get a big ATT logo instead!)... i am sure there are other differences but as mentioned for rogers you need 850 umts for 3G
good news for you is prices are already cheaper than a month ago when i bought mine

Ya u get a few at&t logos and have to deal with the keyboard. Software wise i dont care because i've already flashed a cooked rom, so all is good. I would definitely prefer an unbranded device but 3g and price are quite important to me

thanks for all the feedback. i also noticed TILT2s for sale on expansys.ca. I've used them before and know that they're reliable (in case anyone was wondering).
-j

Pacific Mall
If you are in the Toronto area, you can also check out Pacific Mall. Caution, some of their vendors are questionable.
I bought the T-Mobile version, and I can not afford a data plan, so I'm good as far as 3G is concerned.

hiazle said:
If you are in the Toronto area, you can also check out Pacific Mall. Caution, some of their vendors are questionable.
I bought the T-Mobile version, and I can not afford a data plan, so I'm good as far as 3G is concerned.
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ya but 3G is not for data only. you'll also get better reception and voice quality. even if your not using data you want 3G. there are a few places down here (florida) where i would get no reception with an edge phone, but i'll get 3g reception

[Q] Which version to buy for T-mobile T-zones Users?

Hi - I have the T-mobile U.S. T-zones grandfathered plan, which phone version can I buy to get 3G speeds on that data plan?
I know Note 2 has several models. Someone told me I could use the AT&T US model if I live in a area that has been refarmed (I live in Orlando, FL).
Someone then told me I should get the Canadian model but I am having a hard time finding a site that sells the Canadian model from Wind/Videotron/Mobilicity.
Thanks

[Q] Which version to buy for T-mobile T-zones Users?

Hi - I have the T-mobile U.S. T-zones grandfathered plan, which phone version can I buy to get 3G speeds on that data plan?
I know Note 2 has several models. Someone told me I could use the AT&T US model if I live in a area that has been refarmed (I live in Orlando, FL).
Someone then told me I should get the Canadian model but I am having a hard time finding a site that sells the Canadian model from Wind/Videotron/Mobilicity.
Thanks

Start paying for your internet like the rest of us
Nah, just kidding. But the last time I checked on the whole "smartphones with T-zones" thing was a few years ago-.at that point, it worked with any phone that didn't need a special apn(like danger or rim devices). If that still holds true, it won't matter which model of note 2 you get. Good luck.

actually I think the frequency 1700 available for T-mobile is only available on the Canadian Wind/Videotron/Mobilicity.
The U.S. AT&T device based on what I read here works if you are in T-mobile area that is reframed.

joogle said:
actually I think the frequency 1700 available for T-mobile is only available on the Canadian Wind/Videotron/Mobilicity.
The U.S. AT&T device based on what I read here works if you are in T-mobile area that is reframed.
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...or international version (N7100).

I purchased the 7100 and I have T-Zones. If your in a good refarmed area you will get H/H+ I'm pulling about 5-8 Mbps here in California

Hi - how I can tell if my area is refarmed, my zip is 32828. Also, will it then stay that way, I mean will T-mobile ever change the refarmed area?
Basically am inquiring if I get the 7100 model will it be useless for me with T-zones in like a few months,etc.
5800xm_user said:
I purchased the 7100 and I have T-Zones. If your in a good refarmed area you will get H/H+ I'm pulling about 5-8 Mbps here in California
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Check this site http://airportal.de for refarm coverage.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app

I'd just get a brand new international Note 2 off eBay. I got my first one for $575 under their daily deals. Check amazon as well.
Checked into Jedi-X Academy on my SGH-T889

But I would need to know if my area zip 32828 will be fine in getting 3G, also is refarmed a temp config or will they switch.
EmceeGeek said:
I'd just get a brand new international Note 2 off eBay. I got my first one for $575 under their daily deals. Check amazon as well.
Checked into Jedi-X Academy on my SGH-T889
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[Q] Which model is best?

I read the wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II and there are the usual different models for each carrier and region of hte world. I have AT&T so my choices are obviously going to be either the model for AT&T or some international version that uses AT&Ts bands. Is there anything broken about the AT&T model? Any reason to consider some other model? I know some models don't have wirelsee charging and other lack the FM radio. So, which one is best?

I like the international versions . They seem to get all the attention on xda. They have many ROMs out there for the lte 7105 and it seem to get updates fast . Just my opinion
AT&T NOTE 2 JDEVIL LK7 ROM

jeremyandroid said:
I like the international versions . They seem to get all the attention on xda. They have many ROMs out there for the lte 7105 and it seem to get updates fast . Just my opinion
AT&T NOTE 2 JDEVIL LK7 ROM
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true opinion. but a few of the international ROMs have been ported to work with the ATT variant. I chose the ATT model because of warranty/LTE compatibility. i'm not sure which, if any, international variants have ATT LTE bands enabled. if some new feature/functionality is available on the international version, it will get ported to the ATT version at some point. just my 2 cents opinion.

cortez.i said:
true opinion. but a few of the international ROMs have been ported to work with the ATT variant. I chose the ATT model because of warranty/LTE compatibility. i'm not sure which, if any, international variants have ATT LTE bands enabled. if some new feature/functionality is available on the international version, it will get ported to the ATT version at some point. just my 2 cents opinion.
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Thank you both for your feedback.
What is LTE? Is it a band that enables faster upload/download? If I get an international one that does not have LTE will my speed suffer? Warranty isn't an issue as I'll be buying and paying full price and not getting it from AT&T (They think I still use a flip phone with unlimited data plan).

rogerbacon50 said:
Thank you both for your feedback.
What is LTE? Is it a band that enables faster upload/download? If I get an international one that does not have LTE will my speed suffer? Warranty isn't an issue as I'll be buying and paying full price and not getting it from AT&T (They think I still use a flip phone with unlimited data plan).
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LTE provides much faster internet uploads/downloads. since i'm accustomed to seeing downloads speeds averaging 31 Mbps (uploads 20 Mbps), anything else would be much slower. three caveats: to get LTE speeds, you have to (1) be in a LTE supported market (2) use a phone with LTE radio bands compatible with ATT and (3) have your device provisioned - by ATT - for LTE speeds/access. you can keep your unlimited plan.
regarding warranty, consider who provides service should something happen with your phone. with ATT, if you have an issue within the first year (notwithstanding abuse) they'll swap with another (likely refurbished) device. that's my additional 2cents answer to your questions!
EDIT: Added a recent picture showing LTE upload speeds.

cortez.i said:
(3) have your device provisioned - by ATT - for LTE speeds/access. you can keep your unlimited plan.
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OK< thanks. That decides it then. I will get hte AT&T model. One quesiton though about #3 above. What do you mean that AT&T has to provision my device? They think I have a non-smart phone and I don't want thtem to know about my new phone since I am paying $15 a month for unlimited data (A plan they don't offer to smart phone users). On my existing phone I can get around 250kb per second speed so do you think my account is already 'provisioned' for high speed access?
Oh, I found out both the AT&T model and the international one lach the FM radio so that's one less concern I would have had about choosing the AT&T model.

rogerbacon50 said:
OK< thanks. That decides it then. I will get hte AT&T model. One quesiton though about #3 above. What do you mean that AT&T has to provision my device? They think I have a non-smart phone and I don't want thtem to know about my new phone since I am paying $15 a month for unlimited data (A plan they don't offer to smart phone users). On my existing phone I can get around 250kb per second speed so do you think my account is already 'provisioned' for high speed access?
Oh, I found out both the AT&T model and the international one lach the FM radio so that's one less concern I would have had about choosing the AT&T model.
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i had trouble connecting to the internet and obtaining LTE speeds until they provisioned me for LTE (e.g., did something on their end). the other thing i forgot to mention is that you'll need a micro-sim card. if you had no need for LTE speeds, then i doubt you've been provisioned for it. and, if my math is correct, 30 Mbps (or 30,720 kbps) is more than 100 times faster than 250 kbps. i'll put it this way, when i tether my phone to my laptop (e.g., use my Note 2 to access the internet), it's faster than my Verizon FiOS wireless connection.