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[Q] General KF questions

I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!

bird333 said:
I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!
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1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.

soupmagnet said:
1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.
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Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.

bird333 said:
Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.
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You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.

soupmagnet said:
You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.
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I'm pretty sure it's version 1. She has had it over a year and hadn't been able to use it until now. I'll have her check the software version to be sure. Thanks for the help.

[Q] I just got a Fire HDX 8.9 GPZ45RW and Need Help with Root/Roms

Hey Guys, I just got a brand new but never really updated hdx 8.9 4th gen. the firmware is currently 4.5.2. I am interested in Rooting and running CM or some other version of full android. Looks like the development is a bit older for this device and I'm having trouble finding an up to date guide on what to do to get this thing unlocked, rooted, and rom'd. any guidance would be appreciated.

First off keep it on 4.5.2, I don't know how new you can go and still have any hope of root. I don't believe there is any way to bootloader unlock a 4th gen, so CM will likely be impossible for the time being. The Chinese app KingRoot has seen success in rooting quite a few people's 4th gens, so I'd start there. I'm always wary of some of the extras KingRoot installs, so make sure to remove those after rooting & install SuperSU to control root access. If you really want to use 'full android' I'd suggest acquiring a 3rd gen or making the best of your 4th gen and getting a more stock launcher!

You can update to 4.5.5.1 and root with Kingroot. I have the 4th gen 8.9 and it already had 4.5.5.1 loaded. There is another forum here that details how to root but just google kingroot on the device and download the most current version. You should be able to root no problem. However, that is all you can do at the moment. Other forums here detail how to add Google Play to the device but I have not done so can't give advice there. DO NOT use Safestrap 4.01, will not work on 4th Gen device and no Roms are currently in play at the moment. Like you, I am also waiting on the devs here to determine how they will proceed with the 4th gen 8.9 hdx.

chin_bone said:
You can update to 4.5.5.1 and root with Kingroot. I have the 4th gen 8.9 and it already had 4.5.5.1 loaded. There is another forum here that details how to root but just google kingroot on the device and download the most current version. You should be able to root no problem. However, that is all you can do at the moment. Other forums here detail how to add Google Play to the device but I have not done so can't give advice there. DO NOT use Safestrap 4.01, will not work on 4th Gen device and no Roms are currently in play at the moment. Like you, I am also waiting on the devs here to determine how they will proceed with the 4th gen 8.9 hdx.
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rockon999 said:
First off keep it on 4.5.2, I don't know how new you can go and still have any hope of root. I don't believe there is any way to bootloader unlock a 4th gen, so CM will likely be impossible for the time being. The Chinese app KingRoot has seen success in rooting quite a few people's 4th gens, so I'd start there. I'm always wary of some of the extras KingRoot installs, so make sure to remove those after rooting & install SuperSU to control root access. If you really want to use 'full android' I'd suggest acquiring a 3rd gen or making the best of your 4th gen and getting a more stock launcher!
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As 5.1.1 can be rooted suggest allowing the device to update as FireOS v5 is more palatable than v4 and plays nice with GAaps overlays. Future development is likely to require a Lollipop base; upgrading to v5 is a no-brainer for 4th gen devices.

Rooting is easy, unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery is the trickier part.

Hello,..
i got a fourth gen HDX 8.9 with 4.2 on it. Its rooted and OTA blocked. How can ich update tp 4.5.3? Where can i find the image?
Thanks

Bought new kindle fire during Monday Cyber sale. Need advice

Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross

To be honest, I would have same question. Seems that those Kindle Fires (I have purchased two for the christmas gifts for the family in Poland) are 5th generation. Is there a way to flash them with something else as I have heard that once those would be delivered to Poland, my family won't even be able to install any apps on it as Amazon Store blocks polish IP addresses.
Anyway could provide some basic info if those tablets can be flashed with some other ROM to at least provide functionality for Gapps and polish language (dreaming...)
edit: ok... have to say that xda "search" wasn't helpful enough however when I have used google, I have found this thread which might come in handy:
5th Gen - 2015
KFFOWI | Ford
[INDEX]
Helpful Information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485

Dr M Cross said:
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
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I just did this last night from firmware 5.3.1 and it worked fine. You can find your version by going to Settings>About Tablet>Build Number I believe though now that my tablet is flashed with a new rom it does not look the same. From what I understand you cannot root 5.3.2 but can downgrade back to 5.3.1 and then root.
The easiest way to root is with RootJunky's supertool which was just upgraded a week ago and worked fine on my tablet. Download and instructions are here http://www.rootjunky.com/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool/ You can install the correct drivers, root the tablet, remove adds, and install flashify. Once you have flashify you can install whatever ROM you'd like. If I understand correctly you cannot install a custom recovery on 5.3.1
I am running the Nexus rom and it seems to be working great. Got a replacement for my stolen Nexus tablet for $33 on black friday. That's a deal!

Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.

edmun said:
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
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I was absolutely able to root my kindle from 5.3.1 yesterday. Brand new one straight from Amazon. Make sure you are using the very latest supertools which includes updated kingroot. Link is on my post above.
By the way I don't think kingroot ever said it had successfully rooted my tablet but I replaced with super su rebooted and I definitely have root.
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So the instructions in the supertool are misleading... As it does say to run kingroot over and over again to root and and then replace with SU. Yep. I am using the latest version. Seriously. 2 days of constant running of Kingroot with no vain. On 5th gen with 5.3.1. Never had any issues with any devices, even HTC with S-On, Nexus, Motorola Xoom, this Kindle Fire does give me a headache....
I will try today or tomorrow again. It is already after factory reset as it is waiting to be posted back (luckily Amazon told me that I have time until 2nd of February to return the tablets)
edit: Hmm... after factory reset rooting went fine without any issues.
I can only assume that once the device is "assigned" to Amazon Account, it is somehow changed.
So ... After factory reset and starting from a scratch - I do have root on amazon fire 7" 5th generation 5.3.1.

this isn't the 5th gen forum see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire

Hi all,
Thanks for your helps. Appears a friend of mine updated the OS to 5.3.2.1..... so I'm essentially stuck until there are further developments...

rooting 5.2.6.0

Pardon me if this is a stupid question or the wrong place - but I am new to this type of thing. Does anyone know if/when it will be possible to root a firetv version 5.2.6.0 ?

Hi. and welcome to the board.
For all things regarding the aftv, the site http://www.aftvnews.com/tag/guide/ is a good starting point.
It's also there than you can check to see if root for your software revision has become available. For starters it's always good to learn how to block on the air updates for your device asap, so that rooting vulnerabilities have not been patched already before we learn about them (which is the usual way: they got patched and we just learn about them afterwards when the new update already patched them).
As an answer to your question, there is no known way atm to achieve software root on a device with 5.2.6.0.

Yes, thanks. I actually did look at the aftvnews website and saw that my version was market in red, but it didnt give much details as to why its not do able.. it just said no possible. I was curious as to why the limitation

Which version is installed on new fire tv sticks ?
Which version is the latest one which is rootable?
If i buy a new fire tv stick today and first thing i will do, is block the ota update, can i root it or are the new sticks all unrootable, because they already have the new firmware which is not able to be rooted?

Help with rooting Kindle Fire 5th Gen Version 5.7.0.0

I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help me.

Same here.

Waluigi Drip said:
I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help
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Unfortunately, there is NO WAY to root Fire OS 5.7.0.0 without opening the tablet. Reasons: 1. Bootloader is locked, 2. If you attempt to downgrade Fire OS 5.7.0.0 below 5.4.0.0, you will brick your device. The ONLY way to Root and install TWRP is opening the tablet and using something conductive, using some random switch of the same size like the pins on the tablet, something to open the tablet, and a Linux Pc (Not VM, Most likely may not work) Read this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ick-downgrade-fire-7-ford-and-austin.3899860/ this should help root or install newer android versions and root. SuperSU link (if you successfully installed twrp) https://supersuroot.org/ link to the buttons (To unlock bootloader I guess? Btw, you need micro-soldier tools or- just click the XDA TWRP link to see what to do) https://www.amazon.com/Momentary-Tactile-Button-Switch-Assortment/dp/B07LCBLB8N/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3KB51OOE7LYGP&keywords=mini+button+switches&qid=1681097908&sprefix=mini+button+switches,aps,425&sr=8-19 If you want custom roms for this search for some. I recommend lineageos, it's similar to stock and should get the job done... GApps is here if you need it https://opengapps.org/
The Amazon link is for switches.
Rom that I know: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unlocked-ford-austin-lineage-14-1-05-feb-2022.3962457/ Sorry, it can only go to 7.1, android 5 doesn't support certain apps, 6.0/6.1 is fine. If you hate amazon bloatware just use fire toolbox. Reply if you need anything else. Peace! - AmouuuSplat3