Hey Guys, I just got a brand new but never really updated hdx 8.9 4th gen. the firmware is currently 4.5.2. I am interested in Rooting and running CM or some other version of full android. Looks like the development is a bit older for this device and I'm having trouble finding an up to date guide on what to do to get this thing unlocked, rooted, and rom'd. any guidance would be appreciated.
First off keep it on 4.5.2, I don't know how new you can go and still have any hope of root. I don't believe there is any way to bootloader unlock a 4th gen, so CM will likely be impossible for the time being. The Chinese app KingRoot has seen success in rooting quite a few people's 4th gens, so I'd start there. I'm always wary of some of the extras KingRoot installs, so make sure to remove those after rooting & install SuperSU to control root access. If you really want to use 'full android' I'd suggest acquiring a 3rd gen or making the best of your 4th gen and getting a more stock launcher!
You can update to 4.5.5.1 and root with Kingroot. I have the 4th gen 8.9 and it already had 4.5.5.1 loaded. There is another forum here that details how to root but just google kingroot on the device and download the most current version. You should be able to root no problem. However, that is all you can do at the moment. Other forums here detail how to add Google Play to the device but I have not done so can't give advice there. DO NOT use Safestrap 4.01, will not work on 4th Gen device and no Roms are currently in play at the moment. Like you, I am also waiting on the devs here to determine how they will proceed with the 4th gen 8.9 hdx.
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You can update to 4.5.5.1 and root with Kingroot. I have the 4th gen 8.9 and it already had 4.5.5.1 loaded. There is another forum here that details how to root but just google kingroot on the device and download the most current version. You should be able to root no problem. However, that is all you can do at the moment. Other forums here detail how to add Google Play to the device but I have not done so can't give advice there. DO NOT use Safestrap 4.01, will not work on 4th Gen device and no Roms are currently in play at the moment. Like you, I am also waiting on the devs here to determine how they will proceed with the 4th gen 8.9 hdx.
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First off keep it on 4.5.2, I don't know how new you can go and still have any hope of root. I don't believe there is any way to bootloader unlock a 4th gen, so CM will likely be impossible for the time being. The Chinese app KingRoot has seen success in rooting quite a few people's 4th gens, so I'd start there. I'm always wary of some of the extras KingRoot installs, so make sure to remove those after rooting & install SuperSU to control root access. If you really want to use 'full android' I'd suggest acquiring a 3rd gen or making the best of your 4th gen and getting a more stock launcher!
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As 5.1.1 can be rooted suggest allowing the device to update as FireOS v5 is more palatable than v4 and plays nice with GAaps overlays. Future development is likely to require a Lollipop base; upgrading to v5 is a no-brainer for 4th gen devices.
Rooting is easy, unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery is the trickier part.
Hello,..
i got a fourth gen HDX 8.9 with 4.2 on it. Its rooted and OTA blocked. How can ich update tp 4.5.3? Where can i find the image?
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Hello Folks!
I just got a Kindle 8.9 with firmware 8.1.3 out of the box and did not enable the Wi-Fi yet because I don't want stinky Amazon update on it.:, however I cannot use it until I root it.
I've rooted many Tabs and phones before but I need some help here. I see some threads going on with root directions but I confess I am lost each way is the right way for my case.
Should I just stay on 8.1.3 root and apply the OTA block script or should I go for 8.1.4 or even 20 or 30?
Or instead, root and install a second boot loader and leave it prepared for a mature version of CM10?
I've rooted the first gen kindle not long ago but I think fix the ADB drivers on my PC because the HD does not show up on device manager, only as MTP.
Please point me out to the right rooting thread and the OTA block thread.
Thank you!!
Never mind...I found a way and I have my Kindle rooted.
Hi,
I thought about rooting my firetv and while checking the firmware version I noted that this thing apparently updates itself without asking... (I didn't use it for a while and thought it might still be on a rootable firmware).
I now took some precautions and blocked the update servers to prevent any further updates. But yeah, I'm on a firmware version that currently is unrootable and was wondering: Is there any chance someone will root this firmware? Are there any people actively working on finding exploits on the firetv or are they happy with their already rooted devices?
Regards,
Hidden
Hidden92 said:
Hi,
I thought about rooting my firetv and while checking the firmware version I noted that this thing apparently updates itself without asking... (I didn't use it for a while and thought it might still be on a rootable firmware).
I now took some precautions and blocked the update servers to prevent any further updates. But yeah, I'm on a firmware version that currently is unrootable and was wondering: Is there any chance someone will root this firmware? Are there any people actively working on finding exploits on the firetv or are they happy with their already rooted devices?
Regards,
Hidden
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To be honest, depend on what use you have for the FireTV, root is not necessary unless you want to do more than just use XBMC/Kodi. About people finding root for FireTV, you just have to wait. Most devs are busy porting Lollipop to old phones. Once somebody has free time, a root will be found for the FireTV. This is not the Apple TV 3rd generation, which is in root limbo for almost 3 years already.
i'd be doubtful on someone ever finding a software root for the fireTV specifically, there really isnt anyone actively developing anything for the FTV except rbox, if it gets rooted via software again.. its going to be an exploit developed for a different phone that just happens to work on the Firetv i bet.
Towelroot was developped after a bounty was set-up... maybe we could try the same thing ? I would find it ok to reward someone (and maybe amazon would see we want root / USB access...)
ChriKn said:
Towelroot was developped after a bounty was set-up... maybe we could try the same thing ? I would find it ok to reward someone (and maybe amazon would see we want root / USB access...)
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there was a bounty already.. it was paid out to jcase for root in the early days.. he chose to keep it private.. its possible towelroot was based on that same exploit but i dont know myself. Root on the newest firmware wont do much but allow you to enable USB support. Any custom recovery or custom firmware will not be possible with the current stuff we have available from rbox so i doubt anyone is going to put in too much effort into finding a new exploit.
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there was a bounty already.. it was paid out to jcase for root in the early days.. he chose to keep it private.. its possible towelroot was based on that same exploit but i dont know myself. Root on the newest firmware wont do much but allow you to enable USB support. Any custom recovery or custom firmware will not be possible with the current stuff we have available from rbox so i doubt anyone is going to put in too much effort into finding a new exploit.
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The root jcase had was a vulnerability in Android. Towelroot was a vulnerability in the kernel.
*IF* there ever is a new software root method for the FireTV, I would probably start up my work with Safestrap again. I did manage to get it somewhat working before I abandoned it for the bootloader unlock method.
vi6s said:
To be honest, depend on what use you have for the FireTV, root is not necessary unless you want to do more than just use XBMC/Kodi. About people finding root for FireTV, you just have to wait. Most devs are busy porting Lollipop to old phones. Once somebody has free time, a root will be found for the FireTV. This is not the Apple TV 3rd generation, which is in root limbo for almost 3 years already.
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The root jcase had was a vulnerability in Android. Towelroot was a vulnerability in the kernel.
*IF* there ever is a new software root method for the FireTV, I would probably start up my work with Safestrap again. I did manage to get it somewhat working before I abandoned it for the bootloader unlock method.
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rbox. Thats interesting. I wanted to give my parents a rooted device as the one I gave them was rooted but not blocked with updates. Therefore I purchased another one from amazon for 69 and thankfully got lucky. If root come out, then I'll have an extra as a backup.
With Root, there are a few things I personally like.
1. Google Play. Can buy emulators
2. Google Music
3. Power Options on Xbmx.
Currently I believe there is a hardware rooting method that has been released.
Forgive my ignorance...but I just bought a Fire TV yesterday with the hopes of being able to play movies off of my external HD by rooting it, installing XBMC, and side loading Stick Mount. What sort of options do I have now that I'm stuck on 51.1.4.1?
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Forgive my ignorance...but I just bought a Fire TV yesterday with the hopes of being able to play movies off of my external HD by rooting it, installing XBMC, and side loading Stick Mount. What sort of options do I have now that I'm stuck on 51.1.4.1?
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Wait for root...
If you hook that drive up to another computer, you can probably share it from there. Without root, the FireTV USB is useless for storage.
I recently picked up a rootable FireTV from a local BestBuy, so they are still out there in the USA.
the fire tv i just got from amazon the other day was rootable it was on 51.1.01 so i would say if the one u have isnt rootable to return it and get another. make sure to block the updates so it wont update when u turn it on.
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
To be honest, I would have same question. Seems that those Kindle Fires (I have purchased two for the christmas gifts for the family in Poland) are 5th generation. Is there a way to flash them with something else as I have heard that once those would be delivered to Poland, my family won't even be able to install any apps on it as Amazon Store blocks polish IP addresses.
Anyway could provide some basic info if those tablets can be flashed with some other ROM to at least provide functionality for Gapps and polish language (dreaming...)
edit: ok... have to say that xda "search" wasn't helpful enough however when I have used google, I have found this thread which might come in handy:
5th Gen - 2015
KFFOWI | Ford
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Helpful Information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
Dr M Cross said:
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
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I just did this last night from firmware 5.3.1 and it worked fine. You can find your version by going to Settings>About Tablet>Build Number I believe though now that my tablet is flashed with a new rom it does not look the same. From what I understand you cannot root 5.3.2 but can downgrade back to 5.3.1 and then root.
The easiest way to root is with RootJunky's supertool which was just upgraded a week ago and worked fine on my tablet. Download and instructions are here http://www.rootjunky.com/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool/ You can install the correct drivers, root the tablet, remove adds, and install flashify. Once you have flashify you can install whatever ROM you'd like. If I understand correctly you cannot install a custom recovery on 5.3.1
I am running the Nexus rom and it seems to be working great. Got a replacement for my stolen Nexus tablet for $33 on black friday. That's a deal!
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
edmun said:
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
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I was absolutely able to root my kindle from 5.3.1 yesterday. Brand new one straight from Amazon. Make sure you are using the very latest supertools which includes updated kingroot. Link is on my post above.
By the way I don't think kingroot ever said it had successfully rooted my tablet but I replaced with super su rebooted and I definitely have root.
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So the instructions in the supertool are misleading... As it does say to run kingroot over and over again to root and and then replace with SU. Yep. I am using the latest version. Seriously. 2 days of constant running of Kingroot with no vain. On 5th gen with 5.3.1. Never had any issues with any devices, even HTC with S-On, Nexus, Motorola Xoom, this Kindle Fire does give me a headache....
I will try today or tomorrow again. It is already after factory reset as it is waiting to be posted back (luckily Amazon told me that I have time until 2nd of February to return the tablets)
edit: Hmm... after factory reset rooting went fine without any issues.
I can only assume that once the device is "assigned" to Amazon Account, it is somehow changed.
So ... After factory reset and starting from a scratch - I do have root on amazon fire 7" 5th generation 5.3.1.
this isn't the 5th gen forum see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
Hi all,
Thanks for your helps. Appears a friend of mine updated the OS to 5.3.2.1..... so I'm essentially stuck until there are further developments...
I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help me.
Same here.
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I am trying to root my kindle fire 5th gen running Fire OS 5.7.0.0 but I can't find anything, not even a downgrade forum from 5.7.0.0 to something below. I just want to root my tablet and don't have anything to help
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Unfortunately, there is NO WAY to root Fire OS 5.7.0.0 without opening the tablet. Reasons: 1. Bootloader is locked, 2. If you attempt to downgrade Fire OS 5.7.0.0 below 5.4.0.0, you will brick your device. The ONLY way to Root and install TWRP is opening the tablet and using something conductive, using some random switch of the same size like the pins on the tablet, something to open the tablet, and a Linux Pc (Not VM, Most likely may not work) Read this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ick-downgrade-fire-7-ford-and-austin.3899860/ this should help root or install newer android versions and root. SuperSU link (if you successfully installed twrp) https://supersuroot.org/ link to the buttons (To unlock bootloader I guess? Btw, you need micro-soldier tools or- just click the XDA TWRP link to see what to do) https://www.amazon.com/Momentary-Tactile-Button-Switch-Assortment/dp/B07LCBLB8N/ref=sr_1_19?crid=3KB51OOE7LYGP&keywords=mini+button+switches&qid=1681097908&sprefix=mini+button+switches,aps,425&sr=8-19 If you want custom roms for this search for some. I recommend lineageos, it's similar to stock and should get the job done... GApps is here if you need it https://opengapps.org/
The Amazon link is for switches.
Rom that I know: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-unlocked-ford-austin-lineage-14-1-05-feb-2022.3962457/ Sorry, it can only go to 7.1, android 5 doesn't support certain apps, 6.0/6.1 is fine. If you hate amazon bloatware just use fire toolbox. Reply if you need anything else. Peace! - AmouuuSplat3
Hi All,
I've seen a method (here) that stops Amazon from making changes to Fire Cube devices as long as they are on a certain firmware version.
I want to know the simplest way to flash an older firmware version onto a Gen 2 or Gen 3 Fire Cube. No preference over which model, whichever is easiest.
So far I've found the firmware downloads, but understanding what's required to flash it is like trying to read Greek to me. I've seen methods that need an Arduino, some that say you don't need an Arduino if your on Firmware X or older.
I don't actually own the Fire Cube yet, so I don't know what firmware version will be on there when I receive it. Open to buying second hand or brand new, 2nd or 3rd gen, whatever is going to give me the easiest means of flashing old hardware on there.
Any advice or help is massively appreciated.
Kind Regards,
The 3rd Gen (Gazelle) Cube is only limited to temporary root which can only grant root under certain conditions. Unfortunately with the 3rd gen currently trying and modifying the system to run an older system will brick the device due to dm-verify checking for changes of the system and files.
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The 3rd Gen (Gazelle) Cube is only limited to temporary root which can only grant root under certain conditions. Unfortunately with the 3rd gen currently trying and modifying the system to run an older system will brick the device due to dm-verify checking for changes of the system and files.
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Thanks for the info, that's good to know. I'll pick up a 2nd Gen in that case, assuming it is possible to flash one of the older hardwares on there?