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Who bought the extended battery and why?

I thought about it and even on employee discount I couldn't justify it. It's such minimal difference I can't bring myself to do it. I'll stick with my car charger and 3500MaH Boost Pak.

Why? lol shouldn't that be obvious?
The difference is actually pretty large. With the 2100mAh battery in there it drains about the same speed as my Galaxy S II (bit slower, actually)...and that's on LTE. Granted, I haven't been using the phone *too* much, but even on Standby LTE eats up the battery fairly quickly.
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Like I said, I haven't been using it too much, but I've done enough (downloaded some things, browsed a bit, messaging, facebook, etc...). For awhile it hovered around 58%, then it actually went back up to 60%. I know the phone doesn't have a completely accurate reading, but my battery widget measures voltages to get a % and it's always been dead accurate. As it stands it looks like this thing will have no trouble making it through the day.
Screen on-time is 1:40. Not very much, but not bad considering how much LTE usually drains.

i think uninstalling TasKiller might actually be better for your battery life than having it installed on your phone. it was either after 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2 that taskillers ended up eating more battery life than they were saving.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Why? lol shouldn't that be obvious?
The difference is actually pretty large. With the 2100mAh battery in there it drains about the same speed as my Galaxy S II (bit slower, actually)...and that's on LTE. Granted, I haven't been using the phone *too* much, but even on Standby LTE eats up the battery fairly quickly.
Like I said, I haven't been using it too much, but I've done enough (downloaded some things, browsed a bit, messaging, facebook, etc...). For awhile it hovered around 58%, then it actually went back up to 60%. I know the phone doesn't have a completely accurate reading, but my battery widget measures voltages to get a % and it's always been dead accurate. As it stands it looks like this thing will have no trouble making it through the day.
Screen on-time is 1:40. Not very much, but not bad considering how much LTE usually drains.
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Well it's not obvious for me because im spending $50 for an extra 13%. That's one of the weakest extended battery jumps I have ever seen. I just can't justify spending $50 to basically get an extra 30 minutes with my phone.
Honestly, I've gotten so tired of such the break through in technology and watch battery technology progress so little in terms of size goes. With the way the phones are progressing, We should have a 3500mah at this size.

DarkKnight62 said:
i think uninstalling TasKiller might actually be better for your battery life than having it installed on your phone. it was either after 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2 that taskillers ended up eating more battery life than they were saving.
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It was dependent on the model if im not mistaken, not so much the platform of android it was on. A lot of phones started coming out with integrated task managers already installed.

You guys know that if you walk into a Verizon corporate store to buy the extended battery, it's 50 percent off, right? Making it 24.99. I purchased mine today. I called my store beforehand to make sure they had stock and made sure they knew about the discount. At first they told me it was only for the extra stock battery with the external charger, but after looking it up, they found it. Even though I didn't have a Verizon account setup at that point (phone is being delivered tomorrow and I'm a new customer), I walked in and got the discount with no issues.

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You guys know that if you walk into a Verizon corporate store to buy the extended battery, it's 50 percent off, right? Making it 24.99. I purchased mine today. I called my store beforehand to make sure they had stock and made sure they knew about the discount. At first they told me it was only for the extra stock battery with the external charger, but after looking it up, they found it. Even though I didn't have a Verizon account setup at that point (phone is being delivered tomorrow and I'm a new customer), I walked in and got the discount with no issues.
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Same here. I didn't even have to ask if it was 50% off. They told me. I think it's $25 well spent.

HTC One X - yes or no?

I have a pretty hard decision to make and I would really like to hear your opinion. I have a chance to extend my contract and replace my Galaxy S i9000 with the One X, but I'm not entirely sure if that's a good idea. First I'd like to state that I love the size of both the device and the screen. Now I don't really know how the battery is gonna do for me. I usually listen to music on my earphones for about 2 - 3 hours a day and I don't use any kind of data connection, just Wifi. Do you think it will get me through about 13 hours? Now I've read about the screen flickering issues and that part concerns me a lot. I understand that HTC released some updates. Did those updates completely remove the flickering problem? And I have one more question. How hot does the device get when you push the Tegra 3 to its limits? I would really appreciate any kind of feedback from you, the One X users and please let me know if there are some other problems that I didn't mention (I don't count the rainbow effect as a problem, since I won't be trying to crush my device). Thank you

13 hours sounds like a lot, but turning off wifi when you don't use it and the carrier data connection would save battery. there's only 1 other phone to pick from for Android and it's not out until about June, so if you can't buy at full price and go month to month and you don't want to wait until June - then get this one. there are also a bunch of threads about all of this. i would hate to have to mod this section.
i'm getting mine next week, but i'm paying full price because i'm on contract from the GS II until Oct 2013. after that, i'm switching to Red Pocket or something like that.

I know, I read all about the problems but I would just like some opinions on the worth of the device and how it does on a day to day use. I really don't want to spend so much on a device and then be sorry for that decision for 2 years. I have to have my decision ready by Monday and the opinions from you guys would help me a whole lot. I read literally dozens of reviews but that's just the first look, I need some information about the daily usage.

I reach 13 hours with 2.5hrs screen time on a daily basis

DomCowell said:
I reach 13 hours with 2.5hrs screen time on a daily basis
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Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?

CroatianBoy said:
Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?
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1day and 14hrs with 3hrs screen on time and that is with wifi on all the time...go for the phone mate. or wait till the s3 gets released and then make your decision. both great phones and great in their own rights....build quality of my phone no issues..minor software bugs but waiting for the update to come so it should sort it

So you guys are satisfied with the phone and it's the best phone on the market now, right? I guess I'll buy it on Monday then. Thank you very much for helping me with this decision

Get one infact if u can afford them get 2
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Sorry for coming in late, but I would also highly recommend this phone. Battery has been running now for 1 day and 4 hours without a charge. I haven't used the phone a great deal in the last 28 hours, however WiFi and Bluetooth have been enabled throughout.
Battery showing 60% charge.
It's a great phone!

+1 for the One X. I listen to music from the phone easily 3-4 hours a day, half of which is in the car. I noticed that if I turn the wifi off when I'm out and about, the phone can last a damn long time playing music. I haven't tested exact usage, but from memory, a forty minute drive used about 1% of battery or so.
Also, I have no hardware issues at all. Absolutely perfect phone. Only time when the battery really drops fast is if you are using it heavily with say a game, or internet with brightness set above 65% or so

Thank you guys, you have been really helpful. I just wasn't sure about the overall quality of the device and how bad those "problems" are, but you made it clear that the One X is worth the money

CroatianBoy said:
Wow that's pretty good. Do you have any build quality or screen flickering issues?
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With constant music?
Anyhow, the Tegra 3 is supposed to have the support core which may improve battery life significantly when the screen is off (even if listening to music?)
Maybe I can try some tests!
I only just got mine.
Then there's always SetCPU (and it's profile functionality).

CroatianBoy said:
Thank you guys, you have been really helpful. I just wasn't sure about the overall quality of the device and how bad those "problems" are, but you made it clear that the One X is worth the money
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Here's a screen shot of mine 3G streaming a couple of hours of Rhapsody over BT today with not much display on-time. From my experience, Wi-Fi drains the battery less than 3G. The display is the big battery eater so for music with the display off you should make your 13 hour goal.
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I say yes! go for it!
My batt is now in 51% and has been used for 13 hrs with screen on 1.40hrs

I have no issues with screen or anything else.
Can't complain about battery life but my use has been light so far.

That's why I love the XDA community, it's always ready to help Thank you once again and wish me luck in getting a problem-free One X

Had this phone for a week now and it's a perfect device. No issues at all, build quality is awesome, software could be a bit more tuned and optimized, but really, this is the best smartphone on the market at the moment. I'd give it 9/10. Sretno
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[Q] How to get the most of out Gnex Battery

So I've tried various things, disabled apps I don't use such as Email, Exchange Services, News and Weather, and even disabled the Gallery app and using QuickPic instead (on GB, Gallery was known to waste battery for no reason). Also turned off data and connected via 2G only to save battery, have brightness the lowest possible, turned off auto sync, and yet, still don't have near as good battery life as on my GB running LG G2x.
So my question is, what do you guys do to get as much battery life as possible?
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airplane mode...
jk. what kind of battery life are you getting? Maybe run stock?

Ha it seems to not have to do with the wireless settings at all, drains either way.
And with GB on LG G2x, got 12 hours of constant, heavy use. Music, XDA, Pulse, FB, some gaming, texting all day, definitely used my phone.
Now, with AOKP+Franco, getting around 8 hours of light usage, just messaging and music. Wi-fi on for not even an hour, and didn't play with it much.
And maybe I'll give that a try, I just love all the options in AOKP.

theking_13 said:
Ha it seems to not have to do with the wireless settings at all, drains either way.
And with GB on LG G2x, got 12 hours of constant, heavy use. Music, XDA, Pulse, FB, some gaming, texting all day, definitely used my phone.
Now, with AOKP+Franco, getting around 8 hours of light usage, just messaging and music. Wi-fi on for not even an hour, and didn't play with it much.
And maybe I'll give that a try, I just love all the options in AOKP.
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I'm in the same boat. My friends are on stock and claim they get much better battery life. I'm on AOKP with Franco and seem to be the same but I might give it a try... but love the little tweaks of AOKP that I probably won't

Cheeze[iT] said:
I'm in the same boat. My friends are on stock and claim they get much better battery life. I'm on AOKP with Franco and seem to be the same but I might give it a try... but love the little tweaks of AOKP that I probably won't
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Might try Apex, battery lasted nicely if I remember correctly the few hours I ran stock. Apex is basically stock, with tweaks and customization.
I know for most phones, AOSP and similar based roms almost never provide as much battery life as the stock software w/wo tweaks. There are some exceptions, but maybe ICS is different. Going to flash Apex and tell you how it goes tomorrow.

I was actually just reading a thread someone posted about this. This guy has some pretty good instructions, I would read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016

try the "on deman" governor , it worked very well for me...

Yeah there's nothing you can really do man. SAMOLED just takes up so much more battery than our old G2X's IPS. That's pretty much the only difference. Probably nothing web can do. I bought 3 spare 1750mAH batteries plus an external charger all for 13 bucks to compensate. That's the only way for me to fix my battery issues.
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mackster248 said:
Yeah there's nothing you can really do man. SAMOLED just takes up so much more battery than our old G2X's IPS. That's pretty much the only difference. Probably nothing web can do. I bought 3 spare 1750mAH batteries plus an external charger all for 13 bucks to compensate. That's the only way for me to fix my battery issues.
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Seriously? I thought SAMOLED used up less battery than the IPS. The major reason I bought this phone was for the screen... Ha.
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Oled uses more energy than LCD. You fell for the marketing. They are relying too heavily that black doesn't use energy but who uses all black screen?
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

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Oled uses more energy than LCD. You fell for the marketing. They are relying too heavily that black doesn't use energy but who uses all black screen?
...of the people, by the people, for the people...
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That's crap, this is literally the first time I've seen anyone say this since I got my Vibrant. Seems like they tricked so many people...
That's true, I keep try to keep everything dark, gonna have to invest in a extended battery I guess.
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It is what it is. It could improve in the future, but oled has more visual advantages than LCD. I wouldn't get my panties in a was over it though. And just to throw it out there, bigger pled screens use more energy than a comparable LCD because of the pixels that are lit. The LCD screen is more constant because of back light.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

Thanks for that, will definitely keep that mind when buying a new phone down the road. Hopefully not too soon.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Apex

It appears that at lower brightness values, it's not the screen that's causing power drain. Though indeed, current S-LCDs are about 3 times more efficient than OLEDs when displaying white at same brightness.

not bad for me
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[Q] Awful Battery, Not Sure if ROM or Phone

Hey guys, I have a little bit of a question for ya.
Now my phone's battery life has been awful lately. Certainly not what it was when I first got the phone. I'm lucky if I can get 6 hours mostly on stand by.
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Theres what my battery usage is looking like right now, as you can see, its a steady decrease for the most part, but not a steady amount of use on my end.
I use Advanced Task Killer religiously, and even have it set to autokill. The weird thing is, my phone will get insanely hot sometimes while I'm not using it, I'll check ATK, nothing out of the ordinary, check running apps, nothing out of the ordinary, and if there is always kill it.
Right now I am running a CM10 nightly that is a few months old. Do you guys think that could be the case? I'm really not sure what else to do.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I see so much awake thhere, check if you have rogue app, use better battery stats or gsam battery
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Yes, as aimcr7 says, it must be an app that doesn't let your phone to "go bed"
As you can see in my attachment, this is how it should look like with ~30 apps installed approx.
EDIT: For some reason (maybe i'm too noob), the forum doesn't let me to attach pics, so here it is.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2926/screenshot2013011600252.png

Get rid of the task killer. They are useless and actually make your battery work harder. I'm not sure, but it looks like you don't have a solid, steady mobile signal. It looks like it goes in and out. That kills battery life.

Thanks for the replies. I got rid of ATK. I had a slight feeling it could be that because its on 24/7 monitoring apps, but I guess I just didn't wanna believe it lol. I got GSAM battery and I'm gonna run that for a few hours, see what's going on, but hopefully things will be all fixed. Thanks for the help!

Today i got 2:20h of battery life playing ingress xD sooooo bad
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#1 problem: Verizon GNex, the battery life is dreadful. Screen on time is lucky to be half the GSM version.
#2 problem: Verizon GNex. There's a factory flaw in many of them that leads to the phone getting extremely hot at the top and having atrocious battery life. Only permanent solution is sending it to Samsung to get it fixed. The temp solution that's worked for me is draining the battery dead and recharging it with the phone off. Don't know why it's worked but it keeps the heat away for about a month or two for me.
#3 problem: (you guessed it) Verizon GNex. In areas with weak or no LTE the radio will endlessly consume. Try turning the radio to CDMA only and see if you get better life. Just pop it back on to LTE when you're using it.
Yeah... these are just a couple of the reasons why there is no Verizon Nexus 4...

z.coniglietti said:
Today i got 2:20h of battery life playing ingress xD sooooo bad
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Well, Ingress is one of the most demanding battery game of all times, lol. I went from 95% to 75% in 45 minutes or so. I think it's normal, since Ingress is constantly using 3g, GPS and screen.

BretonGirl said:
Get rid of the task killer. They are useless and actually make your battery work harder. I'm not sure, but it looks like you don't have a solid, steady mobile signal. It looks like it goes in and out. That kills battery life.
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I agree with this. Task killers are really not necessary in Android. Android manages applications in RAM just fine and by removing them from run you are making your system even slower in loading them to the primary memory and thus can lead to a decrease in battery life.

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TheSavageSquid said:
Hey guys, I have a little bit of a question for ya.
Now my phone's battery life has been awful lately. Certainly not what it was when I first got the phone. I'm lucky if I can get 6 hours mostly on stand by.
Theres what my battery usage is looking like right now, as you can see, its a steady decrease for the most part, but not a steady amount of use on my end.
I use Advanced Task Killer religiously, and even have it set to autokill. The weird thing is, my phone will get insanely hot sometimes while I'm not using it, I'll check ATK, nothing out of the ordinary, check running apps, nothing out of the ordinary, and if there is always kill it.
Right now I am running a CM10 nightly that is a few months old. Do you guys think that could be the case? I'm really not sure what else to do.
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That's really not all that bad. I'll trade ya. Here's mine on Wi-Fi and not even using the radio:
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LG V 20 Spare Battery Kit (BCK-5200)

The spare battery kit is now available,hopefully it'll be a promo item on launch day:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V20-Batt...132805?hash=item2a721d0c85:g:Hj8AAOSwCGVX9Jnk
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That is going to be popular!

KOLIOSIS said:
The spare battery kit is now available,hopefully it'll be a promo item on launch day:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V20-Batt...132805?hash=item2a721d0c85:g:Hj8AAOSwCGVX9Jnk
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galaxys said:
That is going to be popular!
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May not be necessary, some videos are reporting superb battery life. Easily one day with mid to heavy usage, and some reported it lasted 2 days w/light usage.
I hope so, this phone looks like a beast!
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May not be necessary, some videos are reporting superb battery life. Easily one day with mid to heavy usage, and some reported it lasted 2 days w/light usage.
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You're probably right,most mfgs have stepped up their game to ensure that we can get at least one "typical" days of use out of our phones before the need to recharge arises.
However,it's nice to simply swap out batteries when getting home from work/etc..... & doing the same when the next (work) day starts anew.
I prefer this vs leaving a phone on a charger,keeping that charging-generated heat away from the phone entirely.

i hope it comes with it, i loved my V10, but it ate batteries. Having a spare was practically a necessity

can I use my v10 battery charger to charge the V20 battery?

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can I use my v10 battery charger to charge the V20 battery?
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Personally, I wouldn't advise that.

V20 is available on Verizon today,I was hoping there would be a battery give away

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Personally, I wouldn't advise that.
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I can't imagine they'd be the same physical size since v10 is 3000 and v20 is 3200.
(hmmm I automatically assumed you meant the spare battery charger case that came with the v10 extra batteries. If you mean wall charger then... Hmmm dunno lol)
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Thanks for the link KOLIOSIS!

yes I was referring to the spare battery case. I'd rather not buy a new one, if my OLD one, worked okay.
The batteries are different widths, but I could just take the door off.
just being cheap...guess I'll buy the NEW set.

I picked one of these up today, battery life wasn't lasting all day like I hoped but its a feature packed phone with a big a$$ screen and I can't put it down. Hate to have to tether it to a wall for charging plus the couple days of sitting in an airport coming up will make this back up battery well worth it.

I got 9 hours with 4.5 hours of talk time, and 4 hours of screen on time. I am happy with that result. I can see on the days I don't have a lot of phone/conference calls I can see the phone going 16+ hours and possibly 6 hours of SOT.
I will more than likely be buying on of these just for my busy days as a backup.

I'm curios why ebay is the only place to get these batteries.

MotorcycleMike said:
I'm curios why ebay is the only place to get these batteries.
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i believe since the phone wasn't supposed to be released until the 28th here in the U.S., we won't see official lgusa accessories until sometime around then.
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I'm curios why ebay is the only place to get these batteries.
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ebay is not the only place, many other places are available.

$59.75 after shipping? No thanks. Wait till lg comes out with it and hope for some deals. So I can buy like a 6 pack. Getting phones with swappable batteries these days is rare. And having a few extra if you plan on keeping more than 1-2 years or selling after a year or two really helps resale value so next person has a couple fresh batteries for their "new" toy. Might buy some more gnote4 batteries while I can. I have 3 new ones left and I just popped this one in about 3 months ago.

Can't wait until these are more readily available and at a much more reasonable price. Will be so nice to go back to the time when I could just pop a new battery in and not have to worry about charging my phone for days at a time.

drbveb88 said:
May not be necessary, some videos are reporting superb battery life. Easily one day with mid to heavy usage, and some reported it lasted 2 days w/light usage.
I hope so, this phone looks like a beast!
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Even if it lasted all day with heavy usage, I'd still use the user changeable battery pretty often. I swap when I am in the field, on loooong bike rides, on vacation, or after I leave work and just don't want to sit waiting for the thing to charge. I'm so happy LG kept this feature.
I'm really happy people are reporting good battery life though.

Batts are back on Amazon. 59.99 is a bit steep in my opinion, I don't need one that bad yet!!