Data plan magic time - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

HERE IT IS:
This is the chat log from when I switched my plan through the T Mobile website. This is the best way to get this done. Talking to someone on the phone is a bad idea because they will just try and word ninja you into buying something you don't want. At least this way, you'll have a hard copy of exactly what you agreed to and what they told you. Good luck.
!Fides S: Yes, the $25.00 per month on line **** is for the 5GB with hotspot feature with throttling Jacob.
jacob ******: so if I switch to the $20.00 per month unlimited data plan I will save money and have no throttling and lose only hotspot feature?
!Fides S: That is correct.
jacob ******: sounds like a good idea to me
jacob ******: and with change my bill will decrease by $5.00 per month correct?
!Fides S: That is correct, Jacob.
jacob ******: I currently pay $92.97 and that will change to $87.97 per month then? If that is correct, can we make this change now?
!Fides S: Upon checking your account, your estimated monthly bill is $96.19. With the change to the unlimited data, your estimated monthly bill will decrease by $5.00.
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I used the chat option on the website to change the plan after reading THIS.

Were you also still in your contract per the first thread? One would think if you're still in your contract you would have no choice but to keep the price until the contract expires? While it would be awesome to us, wouldn't tmo be losing money in that case?
You guys also may want to check and see if you were stuck with a $30 charge to change plans. I was stuck with this when I argued my wifes data plan and wanted truly unlimited because it was the same price. They changed it, but stuck us with that $30 fee.

MrRuckus said:
Were you also still in your contract per the first thread? One would think if you're still in your contract you would have no choice but to keep the price until the contract expires? While it would be awesome to us, wouldn't tmo be losing money in that case?
You guys also may want to check and see if you were stuck with a $30 charge to change plans. I was stuck with this when I argued my wifes data plan and wanted truly unlimited because it was the same price. They changed it, but stuck us with that $30 fee.
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No additional contract was discussed and I did not do the typical 'I understand I am entering an agreement...' song and dance about any fees that would be charged. I all went pretty smooth IMHO. :laugh: :good:

You need to be out of contract in order to use this data plan. Tmobile put me on a "bridge to value" plan until my current contract expires. It's cheaper than the classic plan I was on, but more expensive than their new uncarrier plans.

Towle said:
You need to be out of contract in order to use this data plan. Tmobile put me on a "bridge to value" plan until my current contract expires. It's cheaper than the classic plan I was on, but more expensive than their new uncarrier plans.
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Not based off of contract. Its based off of upgrade tenure. You can fully switch over 18 months after the last discount you took on a phone.. So typically 6 months before your contract end date
On bridge to value you're paying $15/month for unlimited 4g but more on you're base plan than a full value plan

clninja said:
Not based off of contract. Its based off of upgrade tenure. You can fully switch over 18 months after the last discount you took on a phone.. So typically 6 months before your contract end date
On bridge to value you're paying $15/month for unlimited 4g but more on you're base plan than a full value plan
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The person I talked to switched us to 2.5gb for $20 on the bridge to value. He said we can fully switch all lines to the uncarrier plan once our contract is up in November. A couple of the lines are only 2 months into the last phone upgrade.
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Towle said:
The person I talked to switched us to 2.5gb for $20 on the bridge to value. He said we can fully switch all lines to the uncarrier plan once our contract is up in November. A couple of the lines are only 2 months into the last phone upgrade.
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You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15

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You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15
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What are the plans they're advertising on their website then? They include 500mb of data and it's $10 to add 2gb.
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Towle said:
What are the plans they're advertising on their website then? They include 500mb of data and it's $10 to add 2gb.
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That's the uncarrier plan. 50 for unlimited talk and text and data w/500mb of 4g. $10 per 2gb extra(with unlimited hotspot throttled at your phones limit) or $20 for unlimited 4g w/500mb of hotspot ( capped ) and you can buy additional hotspot at $10 per 2gb ( unlim hotspot not available with unlimited phone 4g )

Got my tethering working now.
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clninja said:
You need to get that fixed... Bridge to value 2gb is only $5 and unlimited 4g is $15
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I just have to post my findings here.
I talked to Tmobile, and they say there is no such thing as $5 and $15 data.
They put us on a plan which is $100 for 2 lines w/ unlimited talk and text + 500mb data. It's either $20 to add 2gb or $30 for unlimited.
They did say that our bill would drop about $70 once we're out of contract and switch to the value plan, so maybe those prices pertain to straight value instead of the bridge to value plans..?

Towle said:
I just have to post my findings here.
I talked to Tmobile, and they say there is no such thing as $5 and $15 data.
They put us on a plan which is $100 for 2 lines w/ unlimited talk and text + 500mb data. It's either $20 to add 2gb or $30 for unlimited.
They did say that our bill would drop about $70 once we're out of contract and switch to the value plan, so maybe those prices pertain to straight value instead of the bridge to value plans..?
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The plan they put you on is a straight value plan not bridge to value. The $5 and $15 prices are for bridge to value
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clninja said:
The plan they put you on is a straight value plan not bridge to value. The $5 and $15 prices are for bridge to value
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If I'm on the straight value plan now, then what's the cheaper plan called that I am waiting to be put on once my contract ends?
Edit: I think where the confusion is coming from is that they are calling the new uncarrier plans the value plans. When I check online, my new plan is called unlimited classic, which is an old value plan.
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Uncarrier Value plan is 2 lines for 80+tax for unlim talk and text and 500mb 4g . then $10/line for 2.5gb or $20/line for unlim 4g
That's without insurance. Insurance is 7.99/line extra
Value plan is 2 lines 80+tax for unlim talk and text. Doesn't include data. $5/line for 500mb. $10/line for 2gb and $20/line for unlim 4g.
Insurance is same price. 7.99/line
Bridge to value gets complicated
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Towle said:
Edit: I think where the confusion is coming from is that they are calling the new uncarrier plans the value plans. When I check online, my new plan is called unlimited classic, which is an old value plan.
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Unlimited classic would be bridge to value. On a bridge to value you should be able to get 2gb for $5 per line or unlim 4g for $15 per line.
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[Q] What is your T-mobile Plan as of Now? Single Plans No Families...

So Basically I was on the
$59.99 Unlimited Talk&Text
$9.99 200MB.
which is an = of $69.98 + TAXES($10-$13) = around = $82 dollars monthly
Now I changed it to
$39.99 500 Min
$10.00 Unlimited Text
$20.00 Unlimited Data
for a total of 69.99 + Taxes($10-$13) = around $82 dollars monthly
Now days I dont talk that much on my phone, But I do use alot the internet + texting(about 6K txts a month) im not sure How I do this.
but I belive T-mo is giving me a bad deal here.. been with them for 6 years now and I havent had any good offer... you guys how can I change this or what is your Plan I've seen 54.99 plans out there I wanna make sure I get a good deal before I call again. Thank you very much for the ooportunity
I have unlimited minutes data and text pay 78-79$ a month.
if you go here http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx they have an unlimited plan for 59.99
if you dont use that minutes then go with the 49 99$ plan 500 mins, unlimited text, and unlimited data with 2gb of 4g
but with the value plans you do not qualify for a phone upgrade after the two year contract.
Crisisx1 said:
I have unlimited minutes data and text pay 78-79$ a month.
if you go here http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx they have an unlimited plan for 59.99
if you dont use that minutes then go with the 49 99$ plan 500 mins, unlimited text, and unlimited data with 2gb of 4g
but with the value plans you do not qualify for a phone upgrade after the two year contract.
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Value plans do not offer any "upgrades" the contract holder is paying full price for the phone just split between 20 months. But the plans is cheaper whereas the classic they get a phone discount but the plan is a bit more.
gordonzhao said:
Value plans do not offer any "upgrades" the contract holder is paying full price for the phone just split between 20 months. But the plans is cheaper whereas the classic they get a phone discount but the plan is a bit more.
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yes i stated that in my post. ''but with the value plans you do not qualify for a phone upgrade after the two year contract. ''
depending on what deal you can get... either or can be the better bang for your buck.. just have to search hard. i got a great deal on my s3 ( 280$ no contract ) plus i get an upgrade in December.
jasonren29 said:
Dude. Get the 69.99 unlimited everything plan.
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that is no where to be found in my tmo account I searched all over my Plans and services and nothing to be found... but thanks for the help.. unless that's a monthly plan. I am in the classic plans side.
Crisisx1 said:
I have unlimited minutes data and text pay 78-79$ a month.
if you go here http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx they have an unlimited plan for 59.99
if you dont use that minutes then go with the 49 99$ plan 500 mins, unlimited text, and unlimited data with 2gb of 4g
but with the value plans you do not qualify for a phone upgrade after the two year contract.
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I see.. very interesting but I need to keep myself in classic plans you got a great deal to pay 78-79$ a month I only have 500 mins but the rest is unlimited I guess I just gotta keep looking for the best deal by calling from time to time to see if anything changes. thanks for the help.
I'm on a value plan
34.99 500 min
5.00 unlimited text
10.00 2gb data
20.00 eid
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rockneo said:
I'm on a value plan
34.99 500 min
5.00 unlimited text
10.00 2gb data
20.00 eid
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Value;plans are always good..
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elrene101 said:
that is no where to be found in my tmo account I searched all over my Plans and services and nothing to be found... but thanks for the help.. unless that's a monthly plan. I am in the classic plans side.
I see.. very interesting but I need to keep myself in classic plans you got a great deal to pay 78-79$ a month I only have 500 mins but the rest is unlimited I guess I just gotta keep looking for the best deal by calling from time to time to see if anything changes. thanks for the help.
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What you should do... If your a college student ask for a student discount. Or if your employer is recognized by t mobile you can get a discount. That's what I have so the discount basically covers my taxes because the plan I have is 79.99$. But before you get either one of these discounts check yourself which one is better. I hope this helps a bit.
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Just an FYI, If you work for a large company that uses T-Mobile for their company phone, aircards, etc. You are elligable for a company discount. Thats how i get a 9% break on my bill.
I do FDOT Electrical.
This also works with Sprint, Verizon and At&t... :good:
1SiK1500 said:
Just an FYI, If you work for a large company that uses T-Mobile for their company phone, aircards, etc. You are elligable for a company discount. Thats how i get a 9% break on my bill.
I do FDOT Electrical.
This also works with Sprint, Verizon and At&t... :good:
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Ya that's what I just said
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Crisisx1 said:
What you should do... If your a college student ask for a student discount. Or if your employer is recognized by t mobile you can get a discount. That's what I have so the discount basically covers my taxes because the plan I have is 79.99$. But before you get either one of these discounts check yourself which one is better. I hope this helps a bit.
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OMG thank you very much.
1SiK1500 said:
Just an FYI, If you work for a large company that uses T-Mobile for their company phone, aircards, etc. You are elligable for a company discount. Thats how i get a 9% break on my bill.
I do FDOT Electrical.
This also works with Sprint, Verizon and At&t... :good:
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Yes, im calling just now and I am being transfer to migration..... and succesfully got my Employee Discount as an employee of the City of New York I got a 15% discount which is ok out of a $83 dollars bill... and also a 10 dollars discount from loyalty Dept. I am in a $61 monthly Bill. with only 500 mins but Unlimited Txt and Data (5GB+)

Value plan? How's it work?

I'm looking at trying tmobile but I have a question. I would be using the Sept 5th unlimited data package and probably an gs3. Will I have to pay monthly for $600 phone with 2 yr contract for value plan or does it put the phone down to $199 and I have to pay it off each month until fully paid? Sorry not really sure how it works. If someone can explain to me that'd be awesome. I just heard that value plan is the best.
Search. The magenta deal days takes the $150 + full tax and gives you back a $150 gc.. It's posted on here.
The EIP is $20/month for 20 months starting your 2nd or 3rd month. Value plans are cheaper than classic even with the EIP factored in.
You can also just get the SIM.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-magenta-deal-days-beginning-september-21st/
psykhotic said:
Search. The magenta deal days takes the $150 + full tax and gives you back a $150 gc.. It's posted on here.
The EIP is $20/month for 20 months starting your 2nd or 3rd month. Value plans are cheaper than classic even with the EIP factored in.
You can also just get the SIM.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-magenta-deal-days-beginning-september-21st/
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Can you do this on a family plan while having 4 smartphones? Everytime I try to do it on the tmobile website, it only has some flip phone available for 4 lines + value plan.
Call them. Or do live chat. I'm not a tmo employee so how can I answer that?
Ascertion said:
Can you do this on a family plan while having 4 smartphones? Everytime I try to do it on the tmobile website, it only has some flip phone available for 4 lines + value plan.
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You can compare the prices online with the value plans but I believe you would have to go in store to do EIP on Value Plan. I have a Family Value Plan that is 130 a month for 4 lines excluding the $20 EIP/month for one of my devices. So I pay roughly 150 before taxes but my discount takes care of the taxes.
We finally made the decision to go Value. If we went Classic we would be paying the same every month, except without having to pay an extra $100. T-Mobile.com's current promo price for the S3 (after rebates) on the Classic plans. The Classic plan that we looked at is $20 more per line than the comparable Value plan. But with the $20/month per line "financing" it evens out. We know we will lose out if we decide to leave T-Mobile within the first 9 or so months. Thats because we would pay the $200 ETF plus the balance on the phones.
Because of that we are going to every place we frequent to make sure coverage is good.
exdroid1 said:
We finally made the decision to go Value. If we went Classic we would be paying the same every month, except without having to pay an extra $100. T-Mobile.com's current promo price for the S3 (after rebates) on the Classic plans. The Classic plan that we looked at is $20 more per line than the comparable Value plan. But with the $20/month per line "financing" it evens out. We know we will lose out if we decide to leave T-Mobile within the first 9 or so months. Thats because we would pay the $200 ETF plus the balance on the phones.
Because of that we are going to every place we frequent to make sure coverage is good.
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Tmobile employee here. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents about the Value plans. I personally think they are great but it definitely depends on your situation. Most times the Value plans with EIP payments comes to the same price as Classic but you will have a cheaper down payment cost (in this case free for the phone after rebate). Another benefit is that EIP payments that are on your plan are not taxed since you already paid those taxes upfront so the monthly price is technically a bit less (depending on your city's tax).
Drawback is pretty much if you cancel, you will need to also pay off the rest of your phone but if you don't cancel, your bill will lower by the amount of the phone payments after 20 months. It is a great idea to check your coverage because you will definitely get the most benefit out of a Value plan as long as you stick with it for your full 2 years.
What if you bought the S3 of Craigs list and it's already paid off
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What if you bought the S3 of Craigs list and it's already paid off
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in this case, I would do the 50 a month plan, or have it unlocked and use simple mobile or that new solivali (spelling) company. they both use the tmobile network, not contracts.
durhamite said:
in this case, I would do the 50 a month plan, or have it unlocked and use simple mobile or that new solivali (spelling) company. they both use the tmobile network, not contracts.
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I don't think you need to have it unlocked... I think simple mobile accepts t mobile phones since they use t mobile towers
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please help, T-mo told me to pay $250 with 2yr contact

Hi All,
I was in the T-mo store checking the note 2 last night. The lady told me that if I upgrade my 3 lines plan now, she can offer me $90.00 for all 3 lines (1000 min+unlimited text+ 2 data lines (5G and 2G). So I asked her if I want to buy the note 2 with the upgrade, how much that will be.
She told me $250 + tax. So I called the T-mo store asking the lady to upgrade it for me and I will pick up the phone later. But when I trying to pay, they told me $250 is down payment, I have to pay$20 for 20 months!!!!! the saleswoman never mentioned about $20 for 20months.
It equals I buy the phone directly from Amazon, and got stock with 2yr contact! The salesman told me that they can't cancel the order once it's been placed and I need to go back to the store tomorrow to talk to their manager. I don't know what should I do, please help~ Thanks!
It all depends on that type of plan you are on or they are going to change you to. I bought mine with no contract at full retail and the guy offered to change me to a class class plan and make payments you what she told you. I told him I didn't car about the cost of the phone and wanted to keep my plan.
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
Thanks guys, I understand that the rate plan is good, but I am not happy because they didn't tell me the $20 for 20 months until they changed the plan for me.
The upgrades is not much different than my current one, and got me into 2yr contact again and I have to pay full price for it.
But thanks anyway, I'll go to talk to them tomorrow to see if there is anyway I can get off this trap. Thanks!
Cheezenub said:
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
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Cheezenub said:
Oh no! You just signed up for one of Tmobile's Value Plans. You get a big discount on the rate because you are paying full price for the phone. The Note II sells for $649 no plan. You paid $250 + ($20x20 months=$400) = $649. You get to pay for a full price with ZERO interest over the 20 month and after the 20 months you save that $20 per month ($20x4 months=$80 savings again)
The other rate plan is the Classic plan. You would have paid $419 (less $50 rebate) up front for the phone and paid more for your monthly rate plan. In fact you would end up paying more over the life of the contract with the classic plan.
You got a great phone for $250 down ( $169 less up front ) a lower rate plan, you pay the balance of the price of the phone over $20 months interest free.
Face it, you go the best rate plan at the least expensive up front cost for the Note II at Tmobile. Be happy
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That is def the way to go. I was not done paying on my galaxy 2 and they let me upgrade to the note 2 anyway for 249.99 and I just sold the galaxy s2 on ebay for 285. So the note 2 was free for me. Love it!
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acne626 said:
She told me $250 + tax. So I called the T-mo store asking the lady to upgrade it for me and I will pick up the phone later. But when I trying to pay, they told me $250 is down payment, I have to pay$20 for 20 months!!!!! the saleswoman never mentioned about $20 for 20months.
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I paid $250 up-front for the phone. I converted my Classic Plan to a Value Plan, which saved me exactly $20/month, and they actually went back so that this month's bill (October) is also the discounted Value Plan, so I save $20 on my Oct & Nov bill. Starting with my December bill, T-Mobile starts the $20/month payment for the phone, which is already paid-for by the $20/month I saved by switching plans.
So...
I pay $20/month for the phone, but saved $20/month by switching plans, so the extra $400 is taken care-of.
My first two months of the new contract does not include a $20/month payment for the phone, so that money I save each month by switching plans ($40) goes in my pocket.
I basically only paid $250 down-payment for the phone out of my pocket - Technically, I should subtract the $40 saved from the first 2 months on the Value Plan, so I really paid $210 for the phone (plus taxes) and kept all the features I loved from my previous T-Mobile plan. Then Gazelle is willing to take my current phone for $100 - I may try for more on eBay.
I'm assuming your set-up is similar.
Um, I think you won...
This is how I got my Note II. Pretty good deal if you ask me.
The "value plan" pricing is only attractive when you don't factor in the installment plan for your device
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Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
Baratheonist said:
Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
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Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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ssCISengineer said:
Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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Actually it does have unlimited. But you get throttled down after 5GB. Don't we all? I'm on the $30/mo prepaid plan I got online. Only has 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and unlimited data. I still get hspa+ speeds. Which makes the data service the same as that of post-paid.
ssCISengineer said:
Does prepaid Have unlimited data? It doesn't and that why theextra 3O0$ is worth it to me! It makes my note come ALIVE
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Unlimited data but it throttles to 2G speeds after 5GB. Works for me
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Baratheonist said:
Actually it does have unlimited. But you get throttled down after 5GB. Don't we all? I'm on the $30/mo prepaid plan I got online. Only has 100 minutes talk, unlimited text and unlimited data. I still get hspa+ speeds. Which makes the data service the same as that of post-paid.
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Not exactly, we don't get to roam for data. And T-Mobile has some great roaming agreements including AT&T. I still prefer the prepaid plan but it's worth noting.
^^ In that case, it's almost the same.
But the point of prepaid is you WON'T" need roaming. Just pop in a new sim.
I've pre-purchased sims for Asia and Europe from ebay, prior to my trips. Worked perfectly when I arrived at my destinations. Or you could just wait until you get there and purchase them from local stores.
Although for business folks, I understand the transitions has to be more smooth.
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Individual Classic plan on 2 yr contract:
$419 + ($90/mo x 24 mos) = $2579 less $50 rebate= $2529
Individual Value plan on 2 yr. contract:
$250 + ($20/mo x 24 mos) + ($70/mo x 24 mos) = $2330
Full retail on $30 prepaid for 2 yrs. / $50 prepaid / $70 prepaid
$650 + ($30/mo x 24 mos) = $1370 $1850 $2030
Prepaid is the clear winner for individual service.
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for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
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for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
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The $44.99 price value plan misses key features. If you want to quote the price please list what features the plan include.
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WARNING!
To the OP
WARNING!!
There's a $200 fee when switching from Classic to Value plan. Make sure they didn't just screw you by switching 3 lines from classic to value, $600.
1) New 24 month contract
2) $200 per line to switch to new contract
3) Paying full for the phone is not so bad with the installments, and if you have 3 lines, the plan pays for itself on savings to not worry about the extra $20 (unless there are 3 new phones and not just one...)
Regardless of what you may have done, you have 14 days to change your mind. That is, if you decide that you want to go back to classic, or that you don't want the phone, etc, just go back to T-Mo store to get it all sorted out. Not sure if you did it all over the phone if they'll tell you that you have to cancel over the phone and ship the phone back to them.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do, but I'd warn you to watch out for those $600 in fees. They'd screw your life, and T-Mo will not let you pay that in installments "Fees must be paid all at once and cannot be placed on recurring charges. This includes ETF and migration fees, as well as activation fees."
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for your classic plan calc, why are you calculating it at $90/mo for the plan? unlimited 4g plan is 79.99 ($80)
the value plan is actually only $20/mo for 20[/b months, not 24, and plan per month is $50/mo for unlimited 4g (no hotspot)
the prepaid cards seem to have caps at 100mb/2gb/5gb respectively so it might not be the best solution for some people.
at least these are the rates where i am (SF bay area). i guess it may differ by location? i'm using the value plan which is pretty much $250 + $20/mo for 20months ($400) + $44.99/mo (if i remember correctly) with 2 year contract which adds up to $1970.
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Those were unlimited talk/text/data plans chosen for comparative 2 yr costs. The $80 plan will be $240 less than the 2 yr. grand total but still a hefty difference from prepaid. And when the GN3 or some super phone comes out, I don't have to worry about any ETF before the 2 years is up.
You're right. $20x 24mos is just a typo. It was computed at 20 mos for the grand total.
The T-mobile site shows 2 kinds of $44.99/mo value plans. One plan has talk and text but limits you to just 200mb data. While the other has talk minutes, no text, and 2GB data. For your sake, I hope that is not what you have. As you said prices for services may vary depending on your location.
For prepaid, it's only the $50 and $60 plans that throttle down (not cap) at 100mb and 2gb respectively. Which makes the $30 plan the most appealing, if you can accept the 100 minutes talk time. Anyways, it's only 10cents/min if you ever go over.
To each his own.
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For those who don't like prepaid:
If you buy full price with your credit card. Pay $250 to your cc on due date, then $20/mo for 20 months (probably more like $24/mo because of your APR, but that dwindles down as the balance is being paid off). You can still purchase a classic or value recurring service, but at least not be tied to a 2 yr. plan and no ETF.
You got a good deal. If you got the phone for a discount of $380. You would have to sign up for the $59 1000 minute plan only, not the $39 one.
I have the "value plan" and to include there is a "PHP" include that cover loss, damage, theft, etc. and setup Tmobile Mobile Security which is free for the monthly cost of PHP $7.
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I got my note 2 for $270 plus a $50 mail in rebate. They let me renew my old myfaves plan for 2 years. With the value plan you pay sales tax on the full price of the phone.

Whats your monthly bill with 2-3 lines w/ unlimited everything?

So I'm currently thinking of switching to TMO to save $$$ but I would like to know how much I would save. I know the pricing from the website but not sure what it would end up with tax. So anyone with either 2 or 3 lines with unlimited data, text & talk. Can you tell me your monthly bill?
I plan to start with 2 lines with unlimited everything then add another once the contract is up with AT&T
TIA
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So I'm currently thinking of switching to TMO to save $$$ but I would like to know how much I would save. I know the pricing from the website but not sure what it would end up with tax. So anyone with either 2 or 3 lines with unlimited data, text & talk. Can you tell me your monthly bill?
I plan to start with 2 lines with unlimited everything then add another once the contract is up with AT&T
TIA
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Should be no more then 140 , 80 first two lines 20 unlimited data x2 40 , 80+40=120 then let's say 20 on tax.
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RMXO said:
So I'm currently thinking of switching to TMO to save $$$ but I would like to know how much I would save. I know the pricing from the website but not sure what it would end up with tax. So anyone with either 2 or 3 lines with unlimited data, text & talk. Can you tell me your monthly bill?
I plan to start with 2 lines with unlimited everything then add another once the contract is up with AT&T
TIA
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http://goo.gl/iDXI1 a spreadsheet my self and a few others threw together
rahlquist said:
http://goo.gl/iDXI1 a spreadsheet my self and a few others threw together
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Not to be an ass but on the down payment of the phones you need to include the taxes of the full phone on those prices.
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xxjrsmith3xx said:
Not to be an ass but on the down payment of the phones you need to include the taxes of the full phone on those prices.
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If I'm reading it correctly, he hasn't included tax in those #'s right?
xxjrsmith3xx said:
Not to be an ass but on the down payment of the phones you need to include the taxes of the full phone on those prices.
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Sure you get me the sales tax rates for all 4000+ locales in the US and maybe I will add it.
Or just accept that nothing has tax added LOL
rahlquist said:
Sure you get me the sales tax rates for all 4000+ locales in the US and maybe I will add it.
Or just accept that nothing has tax added LOL
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Lol no need for that dude but at least it will give people more closer numbers that's all.
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Thanks for the info, after looking at the numbers it makes it even easier to decide. Now for the hard part in waiting for a 32gb version.
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Thanks for the info, after looking at the numbers it makes it even easier to decide. Now for the hard part in waiting for a 32gb version.
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I only pay $104 a month for 2 lines, $115 including my EIP for the GS4 (I put $350 down for it).
I'm in S Fla and just changed my plan with tmob and with 3 lines, unlimited min., unlimited txt, and ulimited data it's 120 p/mth + taxes
Jdom58 said:
I'm in S Fla and just changed my plan with tmob and with 3 lines, unlimited min., unlimited txt, and ulimited data it's 120 p/mth + taxes
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Just curious, but how do you only pay $120/month + taxes for 3 lines? I work out the math to be $70 (1st line) + $50 (2nd line) + $30 (3rd line) = $150 + taxes & fees. Unless you guys have different pricing in S Fla vs California.
djruckuss66 said:
Just curious, but how do you only pay $120/month + taxes for 3 lines? I work out the math to be $70 (1st line) + $50 (2nd line) + $30 (3rd line) = $150 + taxes & fees. Unless you guys have different pricing in S Fla vs California.
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Voice Simple Choice Plan: Unlimited Talk + Text Manage $80.00 per month total + $10 P/Mth data plan on each phone. The $120 P/Mth did not include the $11.99 P/Mth insurance on each phone which is optional.
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Voice Simple Choice Plan: Unlimited Talk + Text Manage $80.00 per month total + $10 P/Mth data plan on each phone. The $120 P/Mth did not include the $11.99 P/Mth insurance on each phone which is optional.
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Yea, that's not unlimited everything. The 10 bucks per month is only 2GB per phone.
Unlimited is as such:
Unlimited talk and text: 50+30+10=90
Unlimited data: 20+20+20=60
Total=150
I however got a 15% discount for working at Pizza Hut so my total with 3 lines unlimited with 2 phones financed at 20 per month and insurance on one is about 170 after taxes.
TeknoGodz said:
Yea, that's not unlimited everything. The 10 bucks per month is only 2GB per phone.
Unlimited is as such:
Unlimited talk and text: 50+30+10=90
Unlimited data: 20+20+20=60
Total=150
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...Actually, it is. It's just that after 2Gb, you get slowed to 2G speeds. (Or 3G.. can't remember which one..) You can keep going, however. They don't cut you off. The 'Unlimited' +$20 means that they don't throttle you after 2Gb. D'oh.
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...Actually, it is. It's just that after 2Gb, you get slowed to 2G speeds. (Or 3G.. can't remember which one..) You can keep going, however. They don't cut you off. The 'Unlimited' +$20 means that they don't throttle you after 2Gb. D'oh.
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Well, sir, now you're just sounding ignorant. I know what the hell I'm talking about so don't you even for a second think you have the right to try to be condescending. If you read the OP's post he wants, and I quote, "UNLIMITED EVERYTHING." It even says that in the title to this thread. "2-3 lines w/ unlimited everything."
How in your mind does unlimited everything = unlimited talk and text with 2GB of 4g and unlimited edge. Is that unlimited everything? Does 2GB mean unlimited to you? How does that make sense, sir?
And it is slowed to 2G/Edge. YAY UNLIMITED 9KB/S WOOO. No. Edge is terrible, especially on T-Mobile in Florida (probably elsewhere, but I've only had T-Mobile here)
TeknoGodz said:
Well, sir, now you're just sounding ignorant. I know what the hell I'm talking about so don't you even for a second think you have the right to try to be condescending. If you read the OP's post he wants, and I quote, "UNLIMITED EVERYTHING." It even says that in the title to this thread. "2-3 lines w/ unlimited everything."
How in your mind does unlimited everything = unlimited talk and text with 2GB of 4g and unlimited edge. Is that unlimited everything? Does 2GB mean unlimited to you? How does that make sense, sir?
And it is slowed to 2G/Edge. YAY UNLIMITED 9KB/S WOOO. No. Edge is terrible, especially on T-Mobile in Florida (probably elsewhere, but I've only had T-Mobile here)
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Uhm, first, apologies, I was not meaning to sound condescending.
I did read his first post, and he did not say 'Unlimited Everything at 4G speeds', and since on the TMobile site itself, on the 2Gb tier, it even says 'Unlimited' (just that the speed throttling is so small, they hope folks don't read it..!) ..
I think Edge speeds can vary greatly, as around here (Wash DC), Edge is only a touch slower than 3G speeds. (Or else, our 3G royally sucks!)
Bottom line, no one can touch T-Mobile's plans.
Just to give you an idea....
I have 5 Lines @ $110, plus Unlimited Data on main line for $20 and 2.5GB Data for $10 on 2nd line. Total $140.
I have five lines
Base Plan with unlimited talk and text $80
Unlimited Data 4 lines: $80
Insurance on two lines $22
Three Upgrades $60
=$242 + 18 tax =$260
$260/5= $52/mo per line.
Less than $200 with tax when upgrades are paid off which breaks down to:
$40/mo per line.
OP,
I have 2 lines, unlimited talk text and 4g, I am paying 145 per month, this is 120 for the cost, and 12.50 per phone for 2 years.
Can the rest of you folks just answer the damn questions.
akapaul26 said:
I have five lines
Base Plan with unlimited talk and text $80
Unlimited Data 4 lines: $80
Insurance on two lines $22
Three Upgrades $60
=$242 + 18 tax =$260
$260/5= $52/mo per line.
Less than $200 with tax when upgrades are paid off which breaks down to:
$40/mo per line.
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I have 4 lines myself but one of them (my sons) is unlimited everything but data (5 bucks a month but part of a deal I got), the other three are unlimited everything and in the end I pay $170 a month for all of it. It should be more I think $199 but I have a 4G booster from T-Mobile because of a connection issue I had that knocks the bill down so I save $30 a month for using it.
If anyone loses signal in their house but has great coverage outside ask about a 4G booster. It's two separate boxes that you plug in, one in the center of the house and the other where you have the best signal "MUST BE at least 2 bars of 4G" for it to apply to your situation other wise they won't bother sending it to you.
Sorry got a little off track there but I'm sure it will be interesting to some one that needs it.

[Q] Sprint 2 year renewal

Is Sprint forcing their new contracts upon renewal? I have an unlimited talk text data w/450 mins currently, but when I was trying to preorder on Amazon, I had no option to keep what I have.
jfg69 said:
Is Sprint forcing their new contracts upon renewal? I have an unlimited talk text data w/450 mins currently, but when I was trying to preorder on Amazon, I had no option to keep what I have.
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I spoke with sprint yesterday. (had the same plan as you) they switched me to another plan with no contract renewal. Went from $82 to $64 a month. Unlimited talk text and 600 megs of data. I average 75 megs a Month outside my house so this is a good deal for me.
Hmmm.. the $64 number is def nicer, but my data really fluctuates, mostly depending on wifi availablity at work and on the road.. I guess i'm going to have to take a look at my data over time and see.
jhill110 said:
I spoke with sprint yesterday. (had the same plan as you) they switched me to another plan with no contract renewal. Went from $82 to $64 a month. Unlimited talk text and 600 megs of data. I average 75 megs a Month outside my house so this is a good deal for me.
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How is that at all a good deal. U r losing unlimited data. I talked to Sprint and they said I can keep the same 450 unlimited data plan at $69.99 when I upgrade at best buy. I enjoy being able to use 2 gb of data or 20 and not worry about it.
I had the same plan, $69.99 + $10 premium data and $11 TEP. Sprint put me on the my way with unlimited everything for 1 cent more. They remove the 10 dollar premium data and the cost is $80. With $11 TEP it comes to the same price plus a penny. Never have to worry about number of calls or data.
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No they arent. I'm on an everything data family plan and upgrading through best buy and can keep my existing plan
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ryanalan82 said:
How is that at all a good deal. U r losing unlimited data. I talked to Sprint and they said I can keep the same 450 unlimited data plan at $69.99 when I upgrade at best buy. I enjoy being able to use 2 gb of data or 20 and not worry about it.
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I also was able to keep my current plan at best buy. 1500 min for landlines calls all other calls unlimited work unlimited text and data $149.99 for 2 lines or $75 for one.. best buy has never even asked me if I wanted to changeplans. And I have always upgraded thru them
I didn't have an issue. I ordered online through Sprint.
Overall, it would have cost me the same either way. Data usage is a big deal for me since I use around 100 to 120gb per month on the phone.
I may have 450 anytime minutes, but in total, I use around 15 per month, LOL.
When I was on a family plan and bought my note 3 from amazon, they didn't change the plans, all they change is any possibility for a employee discount. I went to my own plan and had the unlimited my way. Was paying $87.00. I went to the easy pay with the preorder of the note 4, so I switched to the $60.00 unlimited plan. I'd you want to renew the discount, they just have you renew it, depending on the plan, it may just cover the data though.
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You can carry-over your current plan. I just pre-ordered directly from Sprint (since BB didn't have any left in charcoal), and I carried over my old Everything 450 plan. The only thing that you need to do is renew for another 2 yrs.
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I had the same plan, $69.99 + $10 premium data and $11 TEP. Sprint put me on the my way with unlimited everything for 1 cent more. They remove the 10 dollar premium data and the cost is $80. With $11 TEP it comes to the same price plus a penny. Never have to worry about number of calls or data.
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Yoshi1221 said:
When I was on a family plan and bought my note 3 from amazon, they didn't change the plans, all they change is any possibility for a employee discount. I went to my own plan and had the unlimited my way. Was paying $87.00. I went to the easy pay with the preorder of the note 4, so I switched to the $60.00 unlimited plan. I'd you want to renew the discount, they just have you renew it, depending on the plan, it may just cover the data though.
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Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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jfg69 said:
Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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I wondered that myself... It's like they are tricking people... Hey you can pay 10 less a month if you sign up for easy pay... "but that is 30 a month..."
Someone please clarify...
Blakestr said:
I wondered that myself... It's like they are tricking people... Hey you can pay 10 less a month if you sign up for easy pay... "but that is 30 a month..."
Someone please clarify...
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Yup, not so good of a deal IMO..
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Yup, not so good of a deal IMO..
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yeah i am with you i don't think it is that great...i was able to carry over my current plan when i upgraded and i upgraded via amazon.
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Dont the "my way/easy way" plans have you paying full price for the phone over time?
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I did the my way through a 2 year contract, the 60 unlimited plan is through easy pay however.
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After a lil math
Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
I kept my 1500 min share plan of ole
PHAMOS1 said:
Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
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The thought of paying FULL price for a phone makes me crazy..
I was under the impression that here is some sort of subsidy that is given to them by the manufacturers for using those phones..
Meanwhile, I am happy ENOUGH to keep my current 450min/unlimited text and data plan with Sprint. If I HAVE to change plans, a big FU to Sprint and their lousy service and sub par customer service (In my experience) and I will just go with some other rip off company..
If you were a single user, and wanted to sign up with a two year plan, BB pre-order was the way to go. Traded in old phone, and with the $50 pre-order card, plus $200 trade in credit, my part at pickup was $49. Using the plan at the bottom of the page here http://www.sprint.com/landings/datashare/index_c.html?view=unlimitedtalk&INTNAV=eSLlans$85Unlimited, I was able to lower my payments from $79 a month (450min talk, unlimited txt/data for $69 + $10 premium data) to $60 a month ($30 unlimited talk/txt, $30 unlimited data). Can't beat that anywhere. I know it sucks for anyone that didn't jump on the deal. Right now, the cheapest way is to pay up front the $299, and use the $60 unlimited talk/txt/data deal. Yeah, I can wait to get a new phone every 2 years, so this one is a smaller hit per month, which is important. Biting my nails for the Note 6...lol.
Edit: I think I need to eat some crow. I just noticed the $25/month fee they are charging until I'm upgrade eligible. Think I'll be calling customer retention later this morning, and switching back to my old plan.
PHAMOS1 said:
Ok I have been trying to figure out the best deal/plan combo and here is what I found.....
If you can keep your old plan and like please do because the new ones with contract renewal aren't worth it. Here is what I found and by all means correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
Unlimited my way plan is $50 unlimited talk and text $30 unlimited data=$80/month but you have the ability to upgrade after 24 months( it's suppose to be new it's not 18 months anymore).
So you pay $300 for the Note 4(if you don't do the trade in thing) +80/month = $2220 (plus taxes and fees that vary) over 2 years
The plan buying the phone out right or with Easy Pay is $30 unlimited talk and text and $30 unlimited data=$60/month but YOU DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE even after 24 months but by then your phone will be paid for so you can buy another on or do Easy Pay again.
So to buy the phone out right you pay $720 (again if you don't do the trade in thing) +$60/month =$2160 over 2 years
AND to buy the phone with Easy Pay is $0 + $90/month ($60+$30EP payment) for 42 months =$2160 over 2 years
As you can see you come out cheaper with the latter two options plus you aren't renewing your contract. I went with the Easy Pay option myself but you have to do what works for you. Again if you found different info please feel free to let everyone know.
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Yes all correct. One thing you left out is optional $5 month upgrade fee. If you pay extra $5 month you can upgrade every 12 months. I chose this option so I can always have a new phone every yr. You just have to pay the taxes on the phone each yr. This yr for the Note 4 it was $52 in taxes and I gave the note 3 back.

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