Hey everyone. I am just getting into development and am looking for some experience in the field. I know it is not easy, but, if someone is not already working on this, would anyone like to join me in an attempt to port a touchwiz android 4.2.1 ROM from the international GS3 to all carrier variant GS3s? If so, respond here, or PM me. I am really interested in getting the ball rolling on this as the new touchwiz features intrigue me, but as a high school student I have no money for a galaxy s4.
Thanks for your interest.
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I don't even think its possible to port from international..
I mean in general is it, but its completely rewriting everything from scratch since US and International is completely different hardware... That's why no one has done it.
Anyone feel free to correct me but OP, if you want to really accomplish this, you have a LONG way to work. Its easier to cook your own TW ROM
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I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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TekGadgt said:
I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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The only source Samsung releases consist of kernel source code and various stock stuff. None of the stuff they release is for TW...
Touchwiz is and always has been closed source. If code was released for TW those featured would of already been implemented to AOSP based roms.
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Strangely i didn't found people asking about that while searching on google...
Soon enough
Imilka has signed up for Note 2 dev list so we can expect a PA
Atleast i can say it WILL come. :good:
As ParanoidAndroid is based on cyanogenmod afaik, i`am afraid it still will take a while mate
Like... Months..?
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Like... Months..?
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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argh,
really, if paranoid (or at least cm10/11) won't be available soon, that will make me buy these LG Nexus or whatever else Google may show us
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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Posted what? Where?
ipguy said:
Posted what? Where?
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http://www.google.com.hk/search?client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=note+2+source
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ChodTheWacko said:
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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We have no official CM porters? since when are porters official its either original CM or ported CM
Anyways , atleast im more than 100% sure we WILL get ported cyanogen mod, and most probably PA too.
now ive used ported CM 10 on around 3 of other devices, and take my word if you havent tried it yet, a port totally depends on which device CM it is ported from. E.g. If we get ported cm 10, it will atleast be as much performing as CM 10 on S 3, whose hardware is resembling, because the porters will take as much help as they can from CM10 of S3...
And if CM10 may be ported, why not PA? its not like first CM has to be ported in order to port a PA second
Thats kernel source, not hardware sources, they are two separate things the CM team need both to make a fully working CM rom for this device (and any other modern Samsung device)
Just curious, will we ever see roms like our international counterpart or could they eventually be ported over? I'm extremely great full for our devs and I hope this doesn't come off as a slight to them. I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm assuming the flood gates will open up as soon as jellybean is released for our device and I would hope so because I hoping to stay with touchwiz roms.
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Just curious, will we ever see roms like our international counterpart or could they eventually be ported over? I'm extremely great full for our devs and I hope this doesn't come off as a slight to them. I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'm assuming the flood gates will open up as soon as jellybean is released for our device and I would hope so because I hoping to stay with touchwiz roms.
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Dev's would have to port them over, yes. So we could but someone would have to work on it. I'm hoping someone will port the sense4all rom when it becomes stable (may take a long time).
Hey i was just wondering if the new 4.2.2 touchwiz will be ported to the s3 from the s4? Because i know im not the only one hoping for the new touchwiz to come to the s3.
I would think it's the same as porting the s3 international firmware to the us variant. Different hardware, different set up. It'll probably brick your phone.
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Oh wow really? So its not the same as like Sense on the HTCs when they were really only htcs getting newer sense roms?
Its not just the launcher its boot loaders, framework, kernels, and its all built for an 8 core exynos processer and we have a dual core Qualcomm
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It'll never happen unless Samsung releases Touchwiz source code to work with. If they would to release it I would be very possible for that to happen, even have TW on non Samsung devices..
HTC Sense is just a skin to be honest (with the exception of the new Blink feed on HTC ONE) with a couple of fancy widgets that rely on that skin.
Sense was partially ported to a couple devices back in the day due to the fact that it is almost just a skin. (Any one can feel free to correct me on this one )
Galaxy S4's Touchwiz, not only is it a skin but the gestures and fancy thing the S4 has rely heavily on TW framework.
With out that TW source to be released we're out of luck
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Its not just the launcher its boot loaders, framework, kernels, and its all built for an 8 core exynos processer and we have a dual core Qualcomm
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I sure hope att/sammy didn't build all that for the exynos octa. Would brick there qualcom quad cpu phones.
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Only a small portion of the S4s are gonna be running the exynos processor. Many will have the next iteration of Qualcomm's snapdragon. It will still be nearly if not entirely impossible to get the S4's firmware running on the S3. We already have 4.2.2 on the S3 though. Just gotta get on a custom ROM.
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He asked if it will be ported... so it would not brick your phone if you tried, it just simply wouldnt work. Unless you try to flash unmodified s4 software on your s3
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He asked if it will be ported... so it would not brick your phone if you tried, it just simply wouldnt work. Unless you try to flash unmodified s4 software on your s3
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im sure this can be ported w/o problems, but is a long way to go my firend.
Hopefully someone can pull it off
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It'll never happen unless Samsung releases Touchwiz source code to work with. If they would to release it I would be very possible for that to happen, even have TW on non Samsung devices..
HTC Sense is just a skin to be honest (with the exception of the new Blink feed on HTC ONE) with a couple of fancy widgets that rely on that skin.
Sense was partially ported to a couple devices back in the day due to the fact that it is almost just a skin. (Any one can feel free to correct me on this one )
Galaxy S4's Touchwiz, not only is it a skin but the gestures and fancy thing the S4 has rely heavily on TW framework.
With out that TW source to be released we're out of luck
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Might be stupid question but if we don't have source code for Touchwiz, how do we have TouchWiz custom roms..?
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Might be stupid question but if we don't have source code for Touchwiz, how do we have TouchWiz custom roms..?
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Custom TW Rom are built using the original TW firmware, with features added to them.
IF we had TW source code, we'd have the features and apps like TW camera on AOSP based roms....
yes just heard it on Google I /O s4 pure android coming to att and tmobile but Google selling it amazing!!!!!
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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I just hope, GS4 users can "upgrade" to that version somehow
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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yeah I know right... I feel like just returning this one and just wait idk... I'm I'm beyond excited
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
Definitely wanting to sale my note 2 for that.
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I'll just keep mine or upgrade to the 32GB TMO version when it comes out. I'm guessing its the US Snapdragon version (compatible w/ AT&T & TMO) & we should be able to install it on ours w/o any issues. I'm all guessing here.
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That's what I believe it is too.
Why would anyone switch their gs4s to that? Can't aosp just be cooked up from that version? It'll deff be much more bug free then aosp at this point
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
Im just gonna wait to see if there is a rom coming out to install
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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or you could just install cm10.1 and BOOM you already have stock android experience + great customization
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I wonder now that there is a stock android build coming will cm for s4 be better since they will have the code specifically for this phone?
What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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You shouldn't feel bad about your purchase. I'm quite happy with mine so far (except the overheating issue lately).
I don't have the AOSP version yet, so I can't really speak of the features that are/aren't going to be there.
I'm guessing if they make it true stock Android, there will be no Samsung bloat at all.
So it's basically a much more powerful version than any Nexus phone will ever be,
and as such the price is quite high. Personally, I would not consider it at that price.
I'm happy with my T-Mo, and with a few customization here or there, I can always get stock.
This is really geared toward the hard-core Android fans/developers. You can't doubt the S4 has the best internal hardware
of any phone out there, and there lies possibilities.
I also heard the news from google I/O. Does this mean that this version of the S4 will be as open as a nexus and easy for developers to make their custom ROMs for it?
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What's the advantages of this???
Now we got are devices fresh in hand and bam. They... release S4 stock.
Hey we got a new version for you buy again.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
All good here. Happy with my purchase
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Sony basically did the same thing with the ZR, took complaints and made a new phone out of it
Just purchased a 600$ Ip57 phone? Well there's IP58 now! (Waterproof not resistant)
It's good to have options, but honestly most people that buy pure vanilla Android are experienced users. Most will have no clue rather it's Vanilla or not.
So there in lies the questions. Why put this out after and most that come here that have an s4 already hacked it to death no? So I don't see the point of the users here who want to upgrade to this when you just put a vanilla type ROM on it.
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Problem with that is cm always has bugs. I'm not a big fan of stock Android but I'm sure plenty are.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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CM only has bugs on non aosp devices. Its just as stable as stock on my galaxy nexus. Having an aosp s4 will allow all the snapdragon s4's to have stable aosp.
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Not true. my nexus 4 gets bugs every once in a while.
If the hardware is identical to the tmoble version then you should just be able to flash the image through Odin right? Seems kind of like the galaxy nexus where you flash takju from yakju or whatever and boom, you are getting the Google play version of updates, wallet functionality etc. If anything it says Samsung has opened their flagship to aosp right?
Even if you think $650 is too much this means that potentially, Samsung will get touch wiz updates to new versions faster as there will be nexus level compatibility with each new android update. I'm not saying immediate but they will have an inside track based on the fact that Google will actively update their device through AOSP for at least 2 years.
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CM will always have bugs due to the way they change the Android coding. Where it is stable and great work people should never look for a bug free OS
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Hey guys,
I've read that many of the software features from the S4 are to be ported to the S3 by Samsung as part of an update.
Does anyone have information on when that might happen and if it might be included in custom ROMs?
I'm most interested in AOKP. Thanks
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It's still up in the air as far as I know. Individual S4 features have already been ported though.
If your more interested in AOKP then your more interested in AOSP and if that's the case then these TW features being "ported" shouldn't concern you really..
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Well we just got an update so dont ecpect anything for a while ,be satisfied with what you have .
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Hey guys,
I've read that many of the software features from the S4 are to be ported to the S3 by Samsung as part of an update.
Does anyone have information on when that might happen and if it might be included in custom ROMs?
I'm most interested in AOKP. Thanks
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Check the first post of the thread in my sig. It has a list of the current ported S4 features. There are two different section, one for touchwiz and one for aosp roms. Keep in my most are only for touchwiz roms since they require the Touchwiz framework. Also, read the linked post at the beginning for what is fully functioning or not. Yes, the thread is updated frequently so it is accurate.
Edit: just realized that you are on tapatalk so probably cant view my sig, here is the link.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206668