Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
Treikens said:
Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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Yes if your OK with only having 3G but LTE and 4G is a no go as the device isn't designed to work on any of the US networks yet.
Treikens said:
Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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I have a i9500 coming to me and the specs say it has DC-HSPA+42.
I don't have LTE in my area so I should be getting the same speeds as I had with my T-Mobile Note 2.
Here's what I've found regarding the GS4 i9500 running on T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+
The international GS4 i9500 supports the 1900MHz band:
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
March 26, 2013 T-Mobile article:
"To-date, T-Mobile USA has offered GSM/EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum, and 3G HSPA+ service on its 1700-MHz AWS spectrum. T-Mobile USA has been eliminating EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum and replacing it with HSPA+. This is known in the industry as refarming. T-Mobile has been proactively announcing which markets offer 1900-MHz HSPA+ over the last few months. In fact, it says 142 million people use 1900-MHz HSPA+ in 49 markets around the U.S. T-Mobile says its LTE network will cover 100 million Americans by mid-year, and 200 million by the end of the year."
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/t-mobile-looks-to-shake-up-industry/240151684
Here's a map of T-Mobile's 3G/4G coverage on the 1900MHz band:
http://www.airportal.de/
Sooo.. it looks like if you live in a major city you should get HSPA+ speeds with the i9500. I live in Phoenix, get my phone tomorrow and will head over to T-Mobile. If all works out I will sign up with Solavei (-:
I should have my i9500 by Thursday and will report my findings. My city has been getting more and more 1900mhz support, but if the speeds are too slow at home I might just return it and get the T-Mobile version.
Unfortunately, 1900mhz support so far is only at major cities. I live near two major cities; San Francisco and San Jose, CA. While reception is great at locations where HSPA+ is supported at the 1900mhz band, in-between those cities (ie Sunnyvale, Mountain View...) you will be dropped to the Edge network. It is very inconvenient for me (based on my experience on my S3)
Now I have the official T-mobile S4 which supports the AWS bands, it is way more usable.
Don't hold your breath on waiting for T-mobile to convert 1900mhz Edge to HSPA+ in your area, who knows how long that will take. If you're getting a flag ship phone, you want to use it now not a year from now.
1900MHz is live here in Denver... its a NIGHTMARE because the phone now prefers the 1900 signal which is not only slower (1700 uses DC-HSPA+ technology, using two carriers (1700MHz AND 2100MHz) to effectively double throughput while 1900 is just 1900 so it averages around 4-6 versus 12+ previously) but drops to EDGE a LOT!
I wouldn't rely on 1900... In fact, I got so annoyed with 1900 that I locked my phone to 1700 only.
Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !
Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.
KillaHurtz said:
Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !
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lostmyphone said:
Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.
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Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
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The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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EtherealRemnant said:
Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
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I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.
lostmyphone said:
I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.
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Yep that's the refarmed PCS band. You're lucky. When my S3 gets stuck on refarmed here, my downloads average 6... If I force it to AWS I average 12+
The phone idles on 3G UMTS mode and goes to H+ for battery consumption reasons, yes.
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KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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i9500 does have the 2100mhz band, but not the 1700.
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
My APN is epc.tmobile.com and not fast.tmobile.com, so yea, I believe I do not have AWS.
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Cool, thanks for the info, Ethereal.
None of the i9500 have AWS, did you even read my post you quoted lol.
I was looking for this same information as here in the UK we only have the SD600 version but I want the Wolfson chip and better camera sensor.
Does anyone know if it will cover H+ and 3G in the UK.? Thanks
KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
Our phone doesn't support att's lte but it does support 1900mhz 3g/4g
Newer Tmo phones will have lte most likely
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zander21510 said:
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
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The phones will probably use multiple bands at the same time ... hspa+ on one and LTE on another. Right now our SGS2 gets dual band hspa+
Cool deal. Although the best news ever for me, as a T-mobile customer, would be something along the lines of "Dear Loyal 10 year T-mobile customer, we are proud to inform you that your bill will be FREE forever, thank you for your continued loyalty."
I was thinking that T-Mobile have a sharing agreement with Sprint with in regards to LTE. I'm liking this plan much better with finally joining other 3G phones. I'm probably going to pick up an old 3 unlocked phone as a back up now in the near future.
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guys... you do know that LTE data packets are not the same as 3G data right?
so even if they are on 1900 radio frequency it does not mean they can get 3G 1900 on LTE 1900 and vice versa
the guy that wrote that piece of engadget was totally wrong in assuming that
yeah...I've owned a few phones, my E63 never received 3G under Tmo, it was a UMTS 850 / 1900 device, it worked with AT&T just fine. My N1 and NS were HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100; both supposedly only compatible with T-Mo's AWS. And our t989 is HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100...working with both Tmo and ATT's 3g UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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using your assumption
if they use AWS band 1700 + 2100 for LTE like they are doing in Canada (Rogers, Bell, Telus) then yes, it will mean AWS phones made for HSPA 1700 / 2100 will not work on those 3 networks
because the technology is different, and thus data packets are different, even if they are on the same radio frequency
luckily in the case of the SGH-i727 counter part of our phone, is enough to flash it with the correct modem to get HSPA AWS instead of LTE AWS
however the case with the 1900 LTE frequency, does not enable current 1900 HSPA phones to work on LTE
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII
Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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gallaxxeess said:
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
hompsar said:
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
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no LTE is only build in on the i727 our T989 is missing the LTE chip, the i727 can run AWS when flashed with a proper Tmo radio
ugotproblemz said:
Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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no, world phones are not compatible unless they have AWS 1700
jessejames111981 said:
but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
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there will be no iPhones in Tmo until they release an AWS 1700 version of it, if ever
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Sorry, but that LTE menu is false hope. It's been researched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095
Okay, I just got a Note 2 N7100, I was using an iphone 4 before and basically swaped out the sims and HSPA + is working and I can make calls etc. However LTE is not showing up.
When I check network discovery there are two ATT networks the one lets me connect without any issues second one doesn't. So What can I do here to enable LTE ?
Thanks
N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Um..
If you just google search the N7100 it says LTE 700mhz/2100mhz band
The N7105 should be the none LTE version Even on engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/ N7105 = None LTE version
ATT uses 1700/2100 LTE. See something missing?
Besides, I'm pretty sure no country outside of the US uses the same bands for LTE that ATT uses.
The ATT iPhone 5 does not work on LTE outside of the US either.
IF ATT uses 1700/2100 then
Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 technology
Model for AT&T: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)3; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Model for Verizon: 4G LTE (700 MHz)3; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Data only4
Taken directly from Apple's Ipad 3 4G Site
States 700/2100 So...
Not only that, the LTE chip is not there. Germany has it but it will not work on ATT. Anyway, who cares? I have 3G now and it works fine for me. I can live without LTE.
Pretty sure the bands are different for the international version vs the us version which is why it wasn't a world release.
So wait now the n7100 doesn't have lte chip? It's not about who cares it was stated it did when I purchased the unit. So yeah.. everyone screams it has it so what's the real deal now
It does have LTE but on a band which is used on a different carrier. It's like unlocking an iPhone and putting it on tmobile. You will only have 2g service because tmobile uses a band different than AT&T for their 3G which isn't compatible with the phone.
No LTE for USA .mmm Yah , guess once its bought most will settle and argue that "I dont use it" or "I don't need it". Keep convincing yourself the $700+ was worth the jump. Check the shootout and spec vids happenin. This "update" is like the 4 to 4s iphone. Note 3 will be the upgrade.
Still rocking the N7000/i5 combo
Last few Iphone 4 then galaxy Note Intl version running 4.04 with Speedmod rom, now i5. Note 2 Pass. <flame suit initiated>
In other words if you go to the UK or where ever you purchased the phone from you will have LTE there. But not on AT&T unless they use the same frequency as whatever carriers are overseas.
But the Band support is ATT's Bands?? It's not a different band ATT uses 700/2100 And the N7100 Supports 700/2100
When I search for networks I spot 2 separate ATT networks one I can connect to but the other won't let me.
N-7100 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
I717 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Do you have an AT&T LTE data plan and LTE sim card?
Here's the plan I have for ATT
It's the Iphone 4 (3G) Unlimited (Grand fathered in with 3g sim card not 4g) Originally from my iphone 4
It could explain the other ATT network it picks up and won't let me connect could be the 4g and I'm on the 3G sim/Plan from good old Unlimited Days?
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So the 1700 is missing from the 1700/2100 so that's the kicker isn't it. hum.
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That, or whoever sold it to you lied and it doesn't have an LTE chip
So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1
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These are 4G LTE sim cards
CreepyDroid said:
N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Are sure 3g network works on the Note II in the US?
Nyxagamemnon said:
So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1
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Umm... Of course you need LTE plan and sim card to get LTE service working. You don't put dvd in blu-ray player and expect blu-ray quality, do you? =p
Anyways, even if change your plan and sim I doubt you will be able to connect LTE. On the brighter side, once you switch to LTE you won't get throttled until 5gb data usage. =)
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Yes 3G works on the Note 2 I stuck my old 3G Sim blue one in there it's on HSPA+, I'm going to go get a ATT 4G sim card and see what happens.
The specs say it supports ATT 4G LTE network.
Will update
I'm considering purchasing the Xperia ZL for use on both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question is, does the LTE work on both networks? Also, is the LTE model that much faster than the 6502 model? How's battery life between them? Etc?
Basically, what's the pros and cons of 6502/6506?
Here are Variant of Xperia Zl
ryude said:
I'm considering purchasing the Xperia ZL for use on both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question is, does the LTE work on both networks? Also, is the LTE model that much faster than the 6502 model? How's battery life between them? Etc?
Basically, what's the pros and cons of 6502/6506?
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Some Comparison between Networks are here Check which one suits you, and for Battery as we all know its varies user to user......
The Rest of the Specs are Same on all Three Variants/
Xperia ZL C6502/L35H Fact Sheet
It's a HSPA+ version of Xperia ZL
Sensors
Accelerometer
Pressure Sensor ( only in C6502 - but according to some People its not present or May be not working Properly)
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Data Transfer Speeds
GSM GPRS ~ Up to 70.4 kbps (download). Up to 70.4 kbps (upload)
GSM EDGE ~ Up to 236.8 kbps (download). Up to 236.8 kbps (upload)
UMTS HSPA cat 24(download) ~ Up to 42 Mbps
UMTS HSPA cat 6 (upload) ~ Up to 5.76 Mbps
Xperia Zl C6503 Fact Sheet
It's the LTE version of Xperia ZL
Sensors
Accelerometer
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Networks :
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I) GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
Data Transfer Speeds
GSM & HSPA data transfer are same as HSPA+ version C6502
LTE CAT 3 (download) ~ Up to 102 Mbps
LTE CAT 3 (upload) ~ Up to 51 Mbps
Xperia Zl C6506 Fact Sheet
It's the another LTE variant of Xperia Zl
Sensors
Accelerometer
Proximity Sensor
Magnetometer
Gyroscop
Networks :
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
Data Transfer Speed
GSM & HSPA data transfer are same as HSPA+ version C6502
LTE CAT 3 (download) ~ Up to 102 Mbps
LTE CAT 3 (upload) ~ Up to 51 Mbps
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U need to buy zl c6506 version
That working on tmobile or att LTE network
I think if u r on LTE network ur phone battery
Will drain fast that for sure.
Thanks guys, I ordered the C6506 from newegg.
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Thanks guys, I ordered the C6506 from newegg.
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When you order from NewEgg:
- Is it the US version - unlocked - with warranty?
- How much did you pay for it?
I am curious because Sony US Store also sells teh Xperia Z C6506 - unlocked - for $759. I am contemplating buying straight from Sony because I got burned buying international version of the phone and they're both dead (no US warranty) - Samsung Note II with SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) issue.
Here the link
lanwarrior said:
When you order from NewEgg:
- Is it the US version - unlocked - with warranty?
- How much did you pay for it?
I am curious because Sony US Store also sells teh Xperia Z C6506 - unlocked - for $759. I am contemplating buying straight from Sony because I got burned buying international version of the phone and they're both dead (no US warranty) - Samsung Note II with SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) issue.
Here the link
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It is US version, unlocked, with Sony 1 yr warranty. I paid $589.99. I get free shipping because I use ShopRunner.
http://promotions.newegg.com/Sony/13-1435/index.html
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For the Z, this is the only version Newegg carries at this time: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875212248
Warranty
Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year
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Not like it will influence your purchase since you already bought one, but I use the C6506 on AT&T's LTE and get really decent download rates 44kbps to 29kbps ish with really no greater battery drain that I can see. It practically smokes my SGS3's battery life on LTE.
betsuni said:
Not like it will influence your purchase since you already bought one, but I use the C6506 on AT&T's LTE and get really decent download rates 44kbps to 29kbps ish with really no greater battery drain that I can see. It practically smokes my SGS3's battery life on LTE.
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I'll be using the phone on both networks, although T-Mobile does not have LTE in my area yet. Still, I plan to test speeds on both networks and I'll post them up.
ryude said:
I'll be using the phone on both networks, although T-Mobile does not have LTE in my area yet. Still, I plan to test speeds on both networks and I'll post them up.
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One of the nice things about this phone giving the ability to switch between the two like this.:laugh: Gives us consumers a bit more power at least.
Hi guys
I have an opportunity to buy a VERIZON NOTE 4 from USA,but since I'm from Europe I'm wondering if it will work with no problems in Europe (including 4G) and is it unlocked?
Thank you in advance
Where do you live in Europe?
my home country uses 1800 mhz for LTE and Verizon note does not have that.
However you should be be getting HSPA+ pretty much everywhere.
I live in MACEDONIA and I'm on ONE mobile carrier.
juno106 said:
I live in MACEDONIA and I'm on ONE mobile carrier.
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Yep same like Poland 1800mhz for LTE from what I am reading you will get HSPA+ but prob not LTE.
If it's not the development edition BL is not unlocked and Sim does not come unlocked normally, but it's possible it may have been unlocked.
I would say if it's not the Dev. Edition you are making a $700 gamble because as of now we don't even have root on retail version.
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If it's not the development edition BL is not unlocked and Sim does not come unlocked normally, but it's possible it may have been unlocked.
I would say if it's not the Dev. Edition you are making a $700 gamble because as of now we don't even have root on retail version.
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you mean Dev Edition is not unlocked? it should be.
Retail edition is factory unlocked any sim will work,should be same with dev ed.
So WILL 4G LTE ,WORK HERE IN EUROPE OR NO? You are confusing me a bit.I really don't know what is that HSPA+ !!!
Or maybe I should buy T-Mobile NOTE 4?
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So WILL 4G LTE ,WORK HERE IN EUROPE OR NO? You are confusing me a bit.I really don't know what is that HSPA+ !!!
Or maybe I should buy T-Mobile NOTE 4?
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No it wont also tmobile usa wont give you 4G.
Hspa+ is faster then 3G but slower then 4G LTE.
You will get edge and hspa+ and maybe 3G.
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I just talked to my mobile operator ONE here in Macedonia and they confirmed that their 4G frequencies are BEND 3- 1800mhz mostly and only their base uses BEND 20-800mz.
They said that T MOBILEs NOTE 4 LTE 4G will be compatible with their frequencies.
Here are USA TMOBILE's NOTE 4 frequencies ,copied from their website:
International:
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
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and the is from VERIZON's NOTE 4:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz), CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz); Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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SO IS "T-MOBILE'S NOTE 4" LTE/4G ,COMPATIBLE WITH 1800MHZ ON MY MACEDONIAN CARRIER, OR IT IS SAME AS VERIZONS NOTE 4 LTE/4G AND THEY ARE BOTH NOT COMPATIBLE HERE IN EUROPE????
Thank you again,but I'm confused
Thank you PATT2K for your reply,but T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 LTE supports BAND 3 which is 1800MHZ,and that the frequency that my carrier ONE uses here in Macedonia?Or that is not 4G????This is pic of the back cover for T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 that I found .Look at OTHER LTE frequencies....BAND 3-1800MHZ
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juno106 said:
Thank you PATT2K for your reply,but T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 LTE supports BAND 3 which is 1800MHZ,and that the frequency that my carrier ONE uses here in Macedonia?Or that is not 4G????This is pic of the back cover for T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 that I found .Look at OTHER LTE frequencies....BAND 3-1800MHZ
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Hmm I am not sure exactly 100% you should ask someone in T-Mobile Forums.
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No it wont also tmobile usa wont give you 4G.
Hspa+ is faster then 3G but slower then 4G LTE.
You will get edge and hspa+ and maybe 3G.
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It seems that you are right.I just received a message on Facebook from T-MOBILE saying that they DON'T SUPPORT LTE on BAND 3-1800MHZ ,so I guess It won't work here in Europe.
This is what they wrote to me:
"Thanks for reaching out! Our version of the Note 4 doesn't have band 3: https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-4 *SL"
It seems that it is the same whether I buy it from Verizon or Tmobile!But are you sure that at least Verizons NOTE 4 HSPA+ and 3G will work here in Macedonia?
My carrier is ONE and it works on GSM 900/1800mhz ...... 3G 1900/2100 and 4G 1800mhz !!!!!!!
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
T-Mobile changed their mind now...hahahaha.Now they sent me new mesage ,after I sent them pic with specs of their NOTE 4 ,saying they appologize and that their version supports BAND 3 1800MHZ.......hahaha
Like i said you will get hspa+
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In my city, speedtest shows the network as LTE even when the phone shows 5G. Initially I thought it could be due to speedtest not recognizing the network correctly but today when I traveled to a neighbor city, speedtest recognized the network there as 5G, so it knows the difference. Then why is it still showing my city's network as LTE but not 5G? Any idea?
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None having this issue?
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because some 5g networks are using LTE bands for uploads
so the website is not seeing this as true 5G - maybe in the future when subwave gets more spread
In either case, those aren't even good speeds on an LTE network!
I agree with the previous post - those 5G speeds are much less than what we are getting on LTE in Milwaukee (for the most part anyway) - we don't have 5G yet- and honestly, I am really looking forward to it - but I hope that when it is available, we get better speeds than your 5G Speedtest shows....by the way, what market are you in ? Just curious
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I agree with the previous post - those 5G speeds are much less than what we are getting on LTE in Milwaukee (for the most part anyway) - we don't have 5G yet- and honestly, I am really looking forward to it - but I hope that when it is available, we get better speeds than your 5G Speedtest shows....by the way, what market are you in ? Just curious
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I am in Illinois on T-Mobile. Attached are the speeds in other end of my city. Same speeds on both LTE and 5G where it recognizes the difference but I guess the tower at my home is not upgraded.
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I am in Illinois on T-Mobile. Attached are the speeds in other end of my city. Same speeds on both LTE and 5G where it recognizes the difference but I guess the tower at my home is not upgraded.View attachment 4972711
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That certainly looks better - I don't know what to expect from ATT as far as 5G goes - I have read that it brings speeds of over 1000GBS but I dont know if that is true or not - and I don't know when ATT will make that happen here in Milwaukee - hopefully sometime this year.
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That certainly looks better - I don't know what to expect from ATT as far as 5G goes - I have read that it brings speeds of over 1000GBS but I dont know if that is true or not - and I don't know when ATT will make that happen here in Milwaukee - hopefully sometime this year.
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Whatever 1000mbps ATT or Verizon is promising is over mmWave which is very limited in range and needs towers for every block to cover the whole city unless you get lucky to have it right on your building but that too only works outdoors mostly. I feel sub 6ghz and 600 mhz 5G would the only feasible ones which may not give the fastest speeds but at least covers more people and provides little better speeds and are easy to deploy.
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Whatever 1000mbps ATT or Verizon is promising is over mmWave which is very limited in range and needs towers for every block to cover the whole city unless you get lucky to have it right on your building but that too only works outdoors mostly. I feel sub 6ghz and 600 mhz 5G would the only feasible ones which may not give the fastest speeds but at least covers more people and provides little better speeds and are easy to deploy.
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I will have to take your word for it because I really don't know that much about it. Only what I have heard - and or read - regardless, it was a game changer when LTE first became a reality and I think - even at the speeds you are getting now is the same kind of thing. Can't wait for it be more universally available.
guys, i do not know about the network in the US, but here is Saudi 5G is coverage is very good in the 5 main cities which covers 60-70%+ of the population, on top of that i got lucky that the 5g tower is only 30 meters from my house, i have a 5G router from huawei and im getting 700mbps + most of the time, and that is also the case on my s20+ however something on my s20+ is strange the 5G is not constant it will work for sometime and then it will go back to 4G, and in order to get back on 5G i have to turn on airplain mode and then turn it off then i will get 5G for like 30-60 mins and again the same process,
is there a way to force it to stay on 5G all the time ?
I tried speedtest with wifi on and actually got less speed than with LTE. I'll try it again when I get into a 5g area in the St. Louis metropolitan area
Assuming you have AT&T ? They are calling LTE+, 5G or 5Ge just like T Mobile mistakenly called HSPA+, 4G years ago when true 4G was supposed to be LTE bands only...
So you are probably picking up 5Ge signal per your carrier but the Speed Test App knows that it is just LTE Enhanced
I also saw another reply about using LTE for upload and a 5G signal for download which is also possible
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T-Mobile is also calling its 600 MHz, Band 71 ..5G but it is not the true 5G Speeds yet, has short range as it needs thousands more towers built out...so it peaks around 225 Mbps and you only get that if you are hugging a tower
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trt *#0011# and check if your phone is really on 5G
sometimes your phone is disconnected from 5G to LTE, but it still keep showing 5G on your phone