Why speedtest shows LTE instead of 5G - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

In my city, speedtest shows the network as LTE even when the phone shows 5G. Initially I thought it could be due to speedtest not recognizing the network correctly but today when I traveled to a neighbor city, speedtest recognized the network there as 5G, so it knows the difference. Then why is it still showing my city's network as LTE but not 5G? Any idea?
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because some 5g networks are using LTE bands for uploads
so the website is not seeing this as true 5G - maybe in the future when subwave gets more spread

In either case, those aren't even good speeds on an LTE network!

I agree with the previous post - those 5G speeds are much less than what we are getting on LTE in Milwaukee (for the most part anyway) - we don't have 5G yet- and honestly, I am really looking forward to it - but I hope that when it is available, we get better speeds than your 5G Speedtest shows....by the way, what market are you in ? Just curious

Geekser said:
I agree with the previous post - those 5G speeds are much less than what we are getting on LTE in Milwaukee (for the most part anyway) - we don't have 5G yet- and honestly, I am really looking forward to it - but I hope that when it is available, we get better speeds than your 5G Speedtest shows....by the way, what market are you in ? Just curious
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I am in Illinois on T-Mobile. Attached are the speeds in other end of my city. Same speeds on both LTE and 5G where it recognizes the difference but I guess the tower at my home is not upgraded.
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I am in Illinois on T-Mobile. Attached are the speeds in other end of my city. Same speeds on both LTE and 5G where it recognizes the difference but I guess the tower at my home is not upgraded.View attachment 4972711
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That certainly looks better - I don't know what to expect from ATT as far as 5G goes - I have read that it brings speeds of over 1000GBS but I dont know if that is true or not - and I don't know when ATT will make that happen here in Milwaukee - hopefully sometime this year.

Geekser said:
That certainly looks better - I don't know what to expect from ATT as far as 5G goes - I have read that it brings speeds of over 1000GBS but I dont know if that is true or not - and I don't know when ATT will make that happen here in Milwaukee - hopefully sometime this year.
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Whatever 1000mbps ATT or Verizon is promising is over mmWave which is very limited in range and needs towers for every block to cover the whole city unless you get lucky to have it right on your building but that too only works outdoors mostly. I feel sub 6ghz and 600 mhz 5G would the only feasible ones which may not give the fastest speeds but at least covers more people and provides little better speeds and are easy to deploy.
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chowdarygm said:
Whatever 1000mbps ATT or Verizon is promising is over mmWave which is very limited in range and needs towers for every block to cover the whole city unless you get lucky to have it right on your building but that too only works outdoors mostly. I feel sub 6ghz and 600 mhz 5G would the only feasible ones which may not give the fastest speeds but at least covers more people and provides little better speeds and are easy to deploy.
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I will have to take your word for it because I really don't know that much about it. Only what I have heard - and or read - regardless, it was a game changer when LTE first became a reality and I think - even at the speeds you are getting now is the same kind of thing. Can't wait for it be more universally available.

guys, i do not know about the network in the US, but here is Saudi 5G is coverage is very good in the 5 main cities which covers 60-70%+ of the population, on top of that i got lucky that the 5g tower is only 30 meters from my house, i have a 5G router from huawei and im getting 700mbps + most of the time, and that is also the case on my s20+ however something on my s20+ is strange the 5G is not constant it will work for sometime and then it will go back to 4G, and in order to get back on 5G i have to turn on airplain mode and then turn it off then i will get 5G for like 30-60 mins and again the same process,
is there a way to force it to stay on 5G all the time ?

I tried speedtest with wifi on and actually got less speed than with LTE. I'll try it again when I get into a 5g area in the St. Louis metropolitan area

Assuming you have AT&T ? They are calling LTE+, 5G or 5Ge just like T Mobile mistakenly called HSPA+, 4G years ago when true 4G was supposed to be LTE bands only...
So you are probably picking up 5Ge signal per your carrier but the Speed Test App knows that it is just LTE Enhanced
I also saw another reply about using LTE for upload and a 5G signal for download which is also possible
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T-Mobile is also calling its 600 MHz, Band 71 ..5G but it is not the true 5G Speeds yet, has short range as it needs thousands more towers built out...so it peaks around 225 Mbps and you only get that if you are hugging a tower
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trt *#0011# and check if your phone is really on 5G
sometimes your phone is disconnected from 5G to LTE, but it still keep showing 5G on your phone

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Will the Galaxy S4 I9500 Exynos 5 Octa work with T-mobile?

Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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Yes if your OK with only having 3G but LTE and 4G is a no go as the device isn't designed to work on any of the US networks yet.
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Will the I9500 Exynos 5 Octa international version of the Galaxy S4 work on T-mobile's 3G/4G network?
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I have a i9500 coming to me and the specs say it has DC-HSPA+42.
I don't have LTE in my area so I should be getting the same speeds as I had with my T-Mobile Note 2.
Here's what I've found regarding the GS4 i9500 running on T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+
The international GS4 i9500 supports the 1900MHz band:
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
March 26, 2013 T-Mobile article:
"To-date, T-Mobile USA has offered GSM/EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum, and 3G HSPA+ service on its 1700-MHz AWS spectrum. T-Mobile USA has been eliminating EDGE service on its 1900-MHz spectrum and replacing it with HSPA+. This is known in the industry as refarming. T-Mobile has been proactively announcing which markets offer 1900-MHz HSPA+ over the last few months. In fact, it says 142 million people use 1900-MHz HSPA+ in 49 markets around the U.S. T-Mobile says its LTE network will cover 100 million Americans by mid-year, and 200 million by the end of the year."
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/t-mobile-looks-to-shake-up-industry/240151684
Here's a map of T-Mobile's 3G/4G coverage on the 1900MHz band:
http://www.airportal.de/
Sooo.. it looks like if you live in a major city you should get HSPA+ speeds with the i9500. I live in Phoenix, get my phone tomorrow and will head over to T-Mobile. If all works out I will sign up with Solavei (-:
I should have my i9500 by Thursday and will report my findings. My city has been getting more and more 1900mhz support, but if the speeds are too slow at home I might just return it and get the T-Mobile version.
Unfortunately, 1900mhz support so far is only at major cities. I live near two major cities; San Francisco and San Jose, CA. While reception is great at locations where HSPA+ is supported at the 1900mhz band, in-between those cities (ie Sunnyvale, Mountain View...) you will be dropped to the Edge network. It is very inconvenient for me (based on my experience on my S3)
Now I have the official T-mobile S4 which supports the AWS bands, it is way more usable.
Don't hold your breath on waiting for T-mobile to convert 1900mhz Edge to HSPA+ in your area, who knows how long that will take. If you're getting a flag ship phone, you want to use it now not a year from now.
1900MHz is live here in Denver... its a NIGHTMARE because the phone now prefers the 1900 signal which is not only slower (1700 uses DC-HSPA+ technology, using two carriers (1700MHz AND 2100MHz) to effectively double throughput while 1900 is just 1900 so it averages around 4-6 versus 12+ previously) but drops to EDGE a LOT!
I wouldn't rely on 1900... In fact, I got so annoyed with 1900 that I locked my phone to 1700 only.
Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !
Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.
KillaHurtz said:
Update:
I just received my i9500 today and I have seen the icon on H and H+. I currently have it set to WCDMA only and getting speeds of 7-9mbps.
Looks like I may be keeping this one anyways, as I'm getting the same speeds at home as my Note 2.
Update 2:
Did a side by side with a GS3 set to WCDMA only on the interstate and the GS4 was pulling higher speeds. Looks like the refarm is working well in my city !
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lostmyphone said:
Good to hear.
Got my i9500 yesterday also and ran over to T-Mo. They didn't have the GS4 in their store yet.
Getting consistant H+ speeds 6-14Mbps in a heavy use area.
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Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
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The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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Can one of you do *#0011# and post the output? Those speeds are quite high for HSPA - it almost seems like you're getting DC-HSPA+ which would mean you are on the AWS band.
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I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.
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I'm not totally sure, it says 1900 Band 2.
It'll flip between 3G and H+ depending if I'm downloading or not, probably for power saving.
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Yep that's the refarmed PCS band. You're lucky. When my S3 gets stuck on refarmed here, my downloads average 6... If I force it to AWS I average 12+
The phone idles on 3G UMTS mode and goes to H+ for battery consumption reasons, yes.
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KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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i9500 does have the 2100mhz band, but not the 1700.
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/GT-I9500ZWAXME-spec
My APN is epc.tmobile.com and not fast.tmobile.com, so yea, I believe I do not have AWS.
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Cool, thanks for the info, Ethereal.
None of the i9500 have AWS, did you even read my post you quoted lol.
I was looking for this same information as here in the UK we only have the SD600 version but I want the Wolfson chip and better camera sensor.
Does anyone know if it will cover H+ and 3G in the UK.? Thanks
KillaHurtz said:
The i9500 does not support AWS, only UMTS and HSPA+. Sounds confusing I know, but AWS on Tmo requires 1700 & 2100 support for it to work. As far as I know the i9500 does not support 2100mhz.
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Here's a shot tethering to my Macbook Pro from my GS4....
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T-Mobile HSPA+ Faster than T-Mobile LTE?

Hello everyone, I'm a bit confused here. I've been with T-Mobile since July and have no complaints, so far I love their network and the unlimited plan they offer. I've had LTE here in the Orlando area since July when I jumped on their network. Only recently after getting curious about their LTE speeds vs. their HSPA+ speeds, did I find out that their HSPA+ is faster than their LTE?
Does anyone happen to know why this might be?
At first I thought it might just be the ROM I'm on, I was thinking that somehow the signal icons or what not, got switched up. But it's the same result across 3 different ROMs.
Here's a couple of screen shots of speed tests done only a few minutes apart on both LTE and HSPA+. I know there's a difference in signal strength with LTE, but from previous tests, even with full signal of LTE, the speeds are the same, HSPA+ was still faster. The tests were done using the same servers.
Could this just be an issue with the radios on the S4 since they haven't been updated since the LTE roll out? Or just an issue with T-Mobile? I find it strange.
Has anyone else noticed the same thing?
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Generally speaking, no LTE is not slower than HSPA+. Speed depends on A LOT of factors, Im going to judge from your screenshots that the LTE having weaker signal is the reason for not as fast as H+. Also, the number of devices on LTE might be a lot higher than the number of devices on H+ in your area. I just got LTE at my work, and i average 20 - 30 Mbps. I love it. Before with H+ i was only getting 8 Mbps. Speed seriously depends on a lot of factors.
When testing speed, take about 10 tests that day that time. then in the next day do the same thing but at a different time of day.. etc etc. then average.
elesbb said:
Generally speaking, no LTE is not slower than HSPA+. Speed depends on A LOT of factors, Im going to judge from your screenshots that the LTE having weaker signal is the reason for not as fast as H+. Also, the number of devices on LTE might be a lot higher than the number of devices on H+ in your area. I just got LTE at my work, and i average 20 - 30 Mbps. I love it. Before with H+ i was only getting 8 Mbps. Speed seriously depends on a lot of factors.
When testing speed, take about 10 tests that day that time. then in the next day do the same thing but at a different time of day.. etc etc. then average.
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That is correct.. It depends on how many devices that tower have.
When tmobile update to LTE here in Dallas, Tx my HSPA+ boost to highest. I used to get around 15-20Mbps download on H+ After a month or two of LTE my speed boost to 30-35Mbps download. I know because I had my S3 back then. My S4 with LTE gets around the same last I check.. 30-35Mbps. So yeah LTE is faster than H+ With faster uploads but you will never get top speeds on a device dual to so many people in that tower.
So where ever you have most be more LTE devices using that tower than H+
elesbb said:
Generally speaking, no LTE is not slower than HSPA+. Speed depends on A LOT of factors, Im going to judge from your screenshots that the LTE having weaker signal is the reason for not as fast as H+. Also, the number of devices on LTE might be a lot higher than the number of devices on H+ in your area. I just got LTE at my work, and i average 20 - 30 Mbps. I love it. Before with H+ i was only getting 8 Mbps. Speed seriously depends on a lot of factors.
When testing speed, take about 10 tests that day that time. then in the next day do the same thing but at a different time of day.. etc etc. then average.
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I've done tests with LTE at full signal strength and have gotten the same results. Also, I thought it might have been upgrades or something effecting it, so I've been doing the same tests for almost 2 weeks now, all with very, very similar results. Even at early morning hours (between 2 and 4AM) when network traffic is usually low, and I get the same results.
Before I took a screen shot, I ran 5 tests on both LTE and H+, the results were pretty the same as in the shots I posted.
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I live in the Miami area and I can tell you that my T-Mobile H is faster then LTE. It shouldn't be but I did noticed this the other day with a couple of tests, so I agree with OP.
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Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the OnePlus 3T's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
Returning mine because of lte T-Mobile network issues
I've gotten better signal with my 3T than any other phone on T-Mobile. Now get service in areas where I never have in the past. Don't seem to have the issues that others are talking about, but enough people are reporting them it seems to at least consider that.
On Cricket which is AT&T. Limited to 8mb download. And yet I got 10mb once. I check oil wells, and drive all over. There are places where you just know that you are going to loose your signal. How ever I have not had even 1 dropped call since purchasing the 3t. I usually change phones every couple of weeks. But I think I may just keep this one.
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T-Mobile is very hit or miss with the 4G+ issue--sometimes it gives me great speeds, others it's awful. However they have already addressed that it will be taken care of in a patch, so I'll give more insight when that rolls out.
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whats the patch and what did they fix? I noticed that sometimes my call drops randomly on T-Mobile.
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There's a post on the Oneplus forums in the bugs section, as well as a link in the Q&A section here referencing the bug and support. Don't think the patch is fully out yet, only to a select few.
OP3T on AT&T
Took this speed test indoors. If I did some speed tests out and about I'm sure I could get way better. But no issues or complaints with data speed for me.
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Hey There,
I was wondering if someone had an update regarding the T-Mobile experience with the new Oxygen 4.x.. I am waiting for delivery of the phone and wished I had checked here first before ordering....
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Hey There,
I was wondering if someone had an update regarding the T-Mobile experience with the new Oxygen 4.x.. I am waiting for delivery of the phone and wished I had checked here first before ordering....
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I'm on T-Mobile in NY and currently on 4.0 with no issues
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The cellular experience is pretty mediocre on this device. When comparing other flagships, this device gets up to -12 dBm weaker signal on RSRP for LTE and also has worse SNR ratio thus resulting in slower speeds. Unless you're right next to a tower with a strong signal, other flagships outclass the OP3T in this area by a noticeable margin.
Using t mobile get great speeds for streaming almost never buffers (unless I've used all my data) downloads are fast and I love the lte aggregation to get faster speeds.
I'm in upstate NY on at&t and get alot better reception than my lg g3 did and surprisingly slightly better than my gs7
Haven't had any issues here with signal strength. Though often it felt like it would take to long to switch down to 3G when the LTE got weak, resulting in 10 to 20 seconds with no throughput whatsoever. But that seems to be fixed on tge latest firmware.
Otherwise I've been able to get some nice speeds with CA.
Indoors in my apartment:
http://www.speedtest.net/android/2634362920.png
(other phones get about the same)
one question though, i just had a speedtest between the stock s7 and stock Op3T i was wondering why there's a big discrepancy between the two in terms of download speed where both of them had a full bar of signal. any thoughts about this?
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one question though, i just had a speedtest between the stock s7 and stock Op3T i was wondering why there's a big discrepancy between the two in terms of download speed where both of them had a full bar of signal. any thoughts about this?
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S7 has Cat9 450/50 Mbps and 3CA while OnePlus 3T is having Cat6 300/50 Mbps 2CA
I get better TMobile signal and speed indoors with the 3t than the opo and le s3 (also band 12).. So far signal seems better overall than any other device I have had so far. Liking it.
WNY
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S7 has Cat9 450/50 Mbps and 3CA while OnePlus 3T is having Cat6 300/50 Mbps 2CA
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yeah! but should it be op3t should somehow reach atleast 10-15mb rather than 4mb of LTE? because s7 has an average of 25MB
and btw theyre both on the same ISP and same APN settings
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yeah! but should it be op3t should somehow reach atleast 10-15mb rather than 4mb of LTE? because s7 has an average of 25MB
and btw theyre both on the same ISP and same APN settings
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i guess those two might be connecting to different frequency bands during your testing. for me my s7 edge and 3t give almost same speeds around 20mbps when on band 40 ( India )
sai444 said:
i guess those two might be connecting to different frequency bands during your testing. for me my s7 edge and 3t give almost same speeds around 20mbps when on band 40 ( India )
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hmm.. how would i know if my op3t is connecting on the frequency band same as my s7? (excuse me for being a noob )
or do we have to unlock some sort of frequency band to make it the same as the s7 has.
RE910177 said:
hmm.. how would i know if my op3t is connecting on the frequency band same as my s7? (excuse me for being a noob )
or do we have to unlock some sort of frequency band to make it the same as the s7 has.
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i dont think we can choose to be connected to a specific band on either of them.
you can use lte discovery app to check which band you are connected to.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en

5G in NYC Sep 26th!!!!!!

https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/19/verizon-5g-new-york-city-september-26/
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Show off for UN convention, which just happens to be this coming week in Manhattan?
Has anyone tried it where there is 5G? Can they post a screen shot of SpeedTest screen while connected with a strong signal?
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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...
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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...View attachment 4831409View attachment 4831411
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Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
chetly968 said:
Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
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Consistent speed definitely not there even though the signal is very strong. The problem is that anything almost can block the signal and they are going to have to have antennas all over the place (and very close together) to cover all locations. Buying a phone with 5G is not a waste now, frequencies to be used will not change (why would they change after the phones are already sold and they're starting to roll out the antennas and they're already set up in various cities, that's a ridiculous assumption), people on this forum already told me it'll take years do even get the test, and here I am already testing it. The newer version of the antenna and receiver is not some experimental thing that will have to be changed; and in Chicago people already got wireless speeds over 1GB.
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Frequencies will not change but better directional technology will develop that current phones will NOT be able to take advantage of. And frequencies will be added as they expand range. Again, current phones will not be able to take advantage of any of that.
At the moment, 5G NR supports 2x2 MIMO and 64 QAM, or two layers and six bits per symbol. But the technology supports 4x4 MIMO on handsets and even massive MIMO at the base station level, as well as more efficient types of coding. We just have to wait for devices and capabilities to evolve.
So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
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So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
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LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.
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LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.
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Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?
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Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?View attachment 4843471
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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
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Agreed. There other tests I did where the upload was much higher... But it is all over the place (inconsistent)
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Question 5G data speeds are terrible, why?

Testing results in garbage speed (consistently less than 7 Mbps down, less than 1 Mbps up, 20-25 ms ping, 6-8 ms jitter). Signal strength is apparently 38% (-111 dBm). I noticed it was bad sometimes when I was actually out and not at home on my WiFi, but I had to use my hotspot for a few hours since they were doing maintenance on the internet here at home, and it was just terrible. So now I have to ask.... what could be making it so slow? Is it just me, or are others suffering from terrible speed as well? Is it my modem? The area I'm in (Sacramento, CA)? Or is it actually on T-Mobile's end?
Just ran a few Speedtest app 5g tests in Southern Nevada...
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Are any of you on the European ROM?
GuyInDogSuit said:
Are any of you on the European ROM?
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I'm on EU firmware with T-Mobile network in Texas, and speeds are kinda all over but consistently fast. Odd that it used LTE for most of my tests instead of 5G though.
I'm not sure if it's always just been "bleh" speeds for 5G here or not, but seeing as how this is the first 5G device I've owned, it's hard to say if it's on my end or theirs.
Nope, must be something on my end. Their map says my area has "5G Ultra Capacity" so that can't be the issue.
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I'm not sure if it's always just been "bleh" speeds for 5G here or not, but seeing as how this is the first 5G device I've owned, it's hard to say if it's on my end or theirs.
Nope, must be something on my end. Their map says my area has "5G Ultra Capacity" so that can't be the issue.
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Might just be your testing locations. 5g actually performs poorly in home environment for me, about the same as lte for speed but less reliable. I'd check open network maps to determine if you're actually close to a 5g cell tower (not relying on carrier provided maps that tend to skew positively for them), and if so, check if you get better signal outside. If you are close to a tower, get decent speeds outside, but not inside, then getting a signal booster for faster mobile speeds indoor would be needed.
It is definitely testing location. When I test at home, the speed is slower than 4g by a lot. When I test at work in NYC I have mind blowing speeds. Faster than my IPS at home.
Here is a screenshot of my 5g in NYC
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It is definitely testing location. When I test at home, the speed is slower than 4g by a lot. When I test at work in NYC I have mind blowing speeds. Faster than my IPS at home.
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Are they consistently like that? The results I mentioned above were at home. But I tested again yesterday while I was out, at a grocery store just down the street a few blocks, and I got 19.9 up/ 3.98 down (which is better, but still pretty sad).
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Are they consistently like that? The results I mentioned above were at home. But I tested again yesterday while I was out, at a grocery store just down the street a few blocks, and I got 19.9 up/ 3.98 down (which is better, but still pretty sad).
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I wouldn't be able to tell you honestly because I do not live in NYC. I commute there for work. I have one ran speed test there 2 times and both times I had blazing fast speed like that. Over at my house, the 5g is poor and I only use 4g.
@GuyInDogSuit I've been having the same issues lately. Not sure what's been going on. T-Mobile OP9P converted to DA firmware, using Family Mobile SIM connected using T-Mobile APN.
Was surprised to get these results today. Went to download an app update using mobile data, realized it downloaded in two seconds, so I figured I'd speed test it. I live in ****ty Ohio lol.
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@GuyInDogSuit I've been having the same issues lately. Not sure what's been going on. T-Mobile OP9P converted to DA firmware, using Family Mobile SIM connected using T-Mobile APN.
Was surprised to get these results today. Went to download an app update using mobile data, realized it downloaded in two seconds, so I figured I'd speed test it. I live in ****ty Ohio lol.
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Holy mackerel!!
Anyway, to update on this.... It would seem it is definitely something in the area, and not just the 5G. I tested the LTE on my tablet and got piss-poor results on that as well. 9.89 down, 0.07 up. Yikes.
They're fine here
I was all over the place today, in at least two different counties, and tested several times. The speeds weren't spectacular, but they were still much better than the sadness I get at home. I should look into some ways to improve that, especially since it will be my only source of internet for a few days next week.

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