I would like to know if it's possible to use the internet on Sprint's network (via mobile data) while talking on the phone. Or if I can receive MMS messages?
I wouldnt see why not. Have you tried it?
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CDMA networks require support for SVDO (simultaneous voice/data something or other) in the phone and the network.
No idea if Sprint and/or the OG support this.
If you have access to LTE on Sprint, then you should be able to. But if it drops back to CDMA, I don't think it will work.
Try it out and let us know if it works.
It works perfectly on GSM/LTE networks, in case you need a reason to switch. Lol
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It works on an E973 on telus network.
Try it and see
gpitner said:
I would like to know if it's possible to use the internet on Sprint's network (via mobile data) while talking on the phone. Or if I can receive MMS messages?
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Only in LTE area's. Sprint does not support SVDO yet, so the only way to do it is using LTE for data and 1x for voice. However if you drop out of LTE coverage you'll loose mobile data.
t1mman said:
It works on an E973 on telus network.
Try it and see
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That's because Telus has a GSM network, and GSM supports simultaneous voice/data.
Sprint is a CDMA network, and they do not support SVDO (required for simultaneous voice/data on CDMA). You can make it work when on LTE as you are connecting to two separate networks using two separate radios (CDMA/LTE).
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Can anyone tell me the difference between EVDO and 3g?
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Can anyone tell me the difference between EVDO and 3g?
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They are both the same. EVDO is a protocol of 3G.
To explain a little further
Verizon network = CDMA
AT&T = GSM
3G for CDMA networks use EVDO
3G for GSM networks use EDGE
POQbum said:
They are both the same. EVDO is a protocol of 3G.
To explain a little further
Verizon network = CDMA
AT&T = GSM
3G for CDMA networks use EVDO
3G for GSM networks use EDGE
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Exactly right. And to my understanding, EVDO has theoretical lower data speeds than GSM 3G.
So does this go for all CDMA phones...Sprint and Verizon? Do they use the same 3G bands so (theorectically) a Verizon 3G phone should work on Sprint 3G?
bond00 said:
So does this go for all CDMA phones...Sprint and Verizon? Do they use the same 3G bands so (theorectically) a Verizon 3G phone should work on Sprint 3G?
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Yeah, but you have to know someone that works at sprint.
if you know someone at sprint get them to activate your phone's serial number on the sprint network. Something sprint frowns upon, and most local stores wont do it for you. But yeah its possible, just not worth the effort.
It would be easier to get on metro pc's network then sprints
Most cdma phones support both 3G bands but some only support one band.
Are you planning to do this to your incredible?
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POQbum said:
They are both the same. EVDO is a protocol of 3G.
To explain a little further
Verizon network = CDMA
AT&T = GSM
3G for CDMA networks use EVDO
3G for GSM networks use EDGE
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Took he words right outta my mouth. Good explanation.
Cryous said:
Most cdma phones support both 3G bands but some only support one band.
Are you planning to do this to your incredible?
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I'm thinking about trying it with my Incredible 2. I just wanted to make sure it (Incredible 2) supports EvDo...because I know thats is what Sprint uses for 3g.
Sounds like it would work *if* I could get the esn registered.
Thanks for the help!
Yeah, when I used to work for [well-known retailer redacted], it was really easy for us to do with the automated system--but that was back in olden days, when a tri-mode phone (on VZW) was a Feature. When I later worked for [different well-known retailer redacted], it was still possible for us to do it if we could get in touch with cooperative sprint reps, but it wasn't nearly as trivial.
More recently, talking to one of my acquaintances who currently works in mobile retail (ha!), I got the impression that it was sort of like the iPhone on T-mo was--they've been hurting for so long that they're willing to look the other way, even if it's officially frowned upon.
If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
Army_Spec_Ops said:
If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
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You will only be to access 2G/edge data speeds, no 3G connectivity since AT&T uses different 3G bands.. assuming you are currently using a T-Mobile G2 with the carrier T-Mobile... :?
You won't have any signal issues unless AT&T has horrible coverage where you live.
you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
Army_Spec_Ops said:
no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
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G2x will work with At&ts 3g/4g. As for G2 I was told it doesn't support the 3g/4g from at&t. Remember the buy out isn't final yet.
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SnowOokami said:
you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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THis is correct. The G2 WILL NOT work with ATT 3G. If you want 3G you need to purchase the NAM (North American Model) of the Desire Z. It is sold in Canada on the Bell Network. You can find it online unlocked and unbranded and it WILL work on ATT no problem. It is going to cost you though, 450-550 depending where you get it.
Same reason iphone won't connect to tmobile 3g...amazing people still don't understand this
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ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
Not unless you know how and which chipset to replace on the board. Ie not possible.
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Army_Spec_Ops said:
ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
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Nope, the phone's hardware is what decides what bands it can use.
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Get a desire Z from rodgers Canada the 3g bands are the same
To bad radio isn't software
It's to bad that phones don't have the radio frequencies programmable in software (much like an fm radio). Is that even possible?
So I know it obviously works on AT&T network but will it work on Verizon, T-Mobile or sprint?
Tmo only gets edge for me. Wondering if its compatible on other networks. Any workarounds I'm missing?
Have a feeling I'm stuck to att if I want 3g 4g... =[
That's correct. Only T-Mobile uses the GSM network that AT&T uses, but they use them on different bands so the high-speed data is typically only going to work on one network or the other. Sprint uses EVDO and Verizon uses CDMA (if I remember correctly), so phones for each of those networks will ONLY work on that network.
I tested my unlocked Nitro on an H20 wireless sim (which just piggybacks ATT) and it worked fine. The icon was even SAYING. I had 4G. A lot of 3rd party wireless companies are still using att technically, but great as a cheaper data alternative that avoid contracts.
I plan on using this phone off contract with a carrier like that once my Verizon deal expires in February.
Hope that helps.
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That's correct. Only T-Mobile uses the GSM network that AT&T uses, but they use them on different bands so the high-speed data is typically only going to work on one network or the other. Sprint uses EVDO and Verizon uses CDMA (if I remember correctly), so phones for each of those networks will ONLY work on that network.
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Evdo is there 3g. Sprint and Verizon are both cdma
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hyelton said:
Evdo is there 3g. Sprint and Verizon are both cdma
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Does anybody notice that Verizon is now using a Sim card, just like AT&T and T-Mobile? That's because their LTE network runs on the Sim Card and not built into the phone, like CDMA...
So technically, yes, you may be able to insert a verizon LTE card into your phone, and it might work, but you most definitely won't get their LTE connection.
You know what, I should try this at work tomorrow. My coworker has a Rezound. we can switch Sims and see if it works on both phones.
Make sure you have the proper LTE APN settings for each carrier or you won't see LTE or squat!
LOL!! I forgot about that. thx Repherb.
Doesn't Metro PCS use the same LTE bands that the Verizon HTC One supports? I'd like to use the One with Metro PCS but I'd like to make sure that it would work properly - especially a good data connection and from my research the Sprint HTC One wouldn't have 4G on Metro. Also I know Metro PCS will flash the phone for me to use on their network but do they gimp the web use on it so that the data usage is a bit limited? Am I wrong or should I go ahead and buy the phone outright and have it flashed over?
Nope, not possible. Verizon mainly uses 700 MHz (band 13) for LTE while MetroPCS uses AWS (band 4). Even though Verizon is testing AWS LTE in a few markets, I'm not sure if the Verizon One even supports that band.
If you want a One, why not get the T-Mobile version instead? They acquired Metro a few months back and are going to merge the two LTE networks while shutting down CDMA. Look at their coverage map now and you'll see it's an exact duplicate of T-Mobile's.
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
dohcvtec said:
Hello, I have a Verizon phone, which I unlocked and I am using with MetroPCS sim card. Everything works except I don't have 4G. I have internet but not 4G. Some ideas how I can fix that and actually use the 4G? Thanks!
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Read the post above yours. It has the answer. You cannot enable a band that the phone doesn't have in it's radio. Verizon band 13 is different than band 4.
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the only success ive had with flashing a Verizon phone to metro was 3g data only. i was never able to get LTE to connect and i tried everything i could think of.
The CDMA editor only let me go so far but i know you can get 3g and evdo to work on their network with some elbow grease and free time.
synisterwolf said:
the only success ive had with flashing a Verizon phone to metro was 3g data only. i was never able to get LTE to connect and i tried everything i could think of.
The CDMA editor only let me go so far but i know you can get 3g and evdo to work on their network with some elbow grease and free time.
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3G is better then E right? What is this CDMA editor that you're talking about and how does it work? What needs to be done?
Thanks in advance!
I'm not sure where I would post this exactly anyhow =p but I don't know much about antennas and such and what the US primarily uses for phone towers and 4g and all that. How well would the European version of the s5 work in the US? More specifically the G900K which is for Europe usage.
Some specifics for the euro s5:
Network:
LTE 800/850/900/1800/1900/2100/2600); UMTS (850/900/1900/2100MHz) ; GSM (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
HSPA (Download/ Upload) LTE Cat4 (150Mbps/50Mbps) / HSDPA+ 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps / 3G / EDGE / GPRS
ReapersDeath said:
I'm not sure where I would post this exactly anyhow =p but I don't know much about antennas and such and what the US primarily uses for phone towers and 4g and all that. How well would the European version of the s5 work in the US? More specifically the G900K which is for Europe usage.
Some specifics for the euro s5:
Network:
LTE 800/850/900/1800/1900/2100/2600); UMTS (850/900/1900/2100MHz) ; GSM (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
HSPA (Download/ Upload) LTE Cat4 (150Mbps/50Mbps) / HSDPA+ 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps / 3G / EDGE / GPRS
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1st, this should have been posted in the Samsung Galaxy S5 q&a forum. It looks as if the radios are similar, but you cannot flash roms or any other software that are NOT designed for your phone. That's how bricks happen
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Well duh.. Wasn't planning on rooting. I'm just curious as to how compatible.. Don't want to get a phone with no 4g in the us
ReapersDeath said:
Well duh.. Wasn't planning on rooting. I'm just curious as to how compatible.. Don't want to get a phone with no 4g in the us
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You will have to unlock the phone to use in the U.S. Also sometimes stock software is not always compatible in the U.S. You will likely have issues with text and mms messages because of incorrect apns, as well as 4g issues.
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joeyhdownsouth said:
You will have to unlock the phone to use in the U.S. Also sometimes stock software is not always compatible in the U.S. You will likely have issues with text and mms messages because of incorrect apns, as well as 4g issues.
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I know a company out of China where they unlock it and do all that stuff. Just need to figure out how well it works lol