[Q] Backup without root - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I bought myself a Nexus 4.
Now i'm trying to move everything from my current Desire HD.
Data like pics , music and so i'll just do manually trough pc , contacts i exported to SD and then imported them in Google , apps go trough play store and for text i'll use an sms backup app.
The problem is app data and settings.
There are some backup apps that can do it but they either require root or abdroid 4.0 and up.
My DHD is stock and unrooted , so my question , is there another option , way around it , very easy root method or whatever lets me backup the app data and settings ?

You need root and titanium backup.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium

Is there an easy way to root ? (doesn't need to be permanent i guess)

If you tell us which version of android you have we can advise you better...
Before rooting, Maybe you could try using "js backup" it's supposed to be able to backup without root, but, I've never not been rooted while using it, so can't be sure how good it is.
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Deuces73 said:
My DHD is stock and unrooted
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ranger4740 said:
If you tell us which version of android you have we can advise you better...
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So it's 2.3.5

Deuces73 said:
So it's 2.3.5
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Just FYI, "stock and unrooted" is not necessarily 2.3.5.

bananagranola said:
Just FYI, "stock and unrooted" is not necessarily 2.3.5.
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Yeah , my bad
(just assumed it was , as in stock has latest update)
Came across Carbon App Sync and Backup while googling solutions.
It is the predecessor of Helium and it should work for GB to (helium requires 4.0 or up).
Found the apk for it but can't open it on my phone , it says " prblom with pasing the package " , what does that mean ?

Deuces73 said:
Yeah , my bad
(just assumed it was , as in stock has latest update)
Came across Carbon App Sync and Backup while googling solutions.
It is the predecessor of Helium and it should work for GB to (helium requires 4.0 or up).
Found the apk for it but can't open it on my phone , it says " prblom with pasing the package " , what does that mean ?
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As far as I know, Carbon/Helium has always been 4.0 and up?

bananagranola said:
As far as I know, Carbon/Helium has always been 4.0 and up?
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Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?

Deuces73 said:
Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?
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Ace Think Tank in my signature.

Deuces73 said:
Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?
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My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.

glevitan said:
My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.
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Yeah , but this is what i found in the play store :
Gebruikers met root toegang kunnen zowel APK+Data als Market links back-uppen
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Users with root access can backup APK+Data and market links
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So i would think that it won't backup app data+settings without root ?
(if it was a free app i obviously would have tried it already)
Edit : it even says literraly :
NOTE: Data/setting of applications can only be supported if you have a rooted phone, or if the application integrates with us.
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Have you tried JS BACKUP to see if that works on nonrooted phone?
Edit: just realised you can "unroot" phone in superSU temporarily, tried it myself it backs up, but FC trying to restore, so it must need root too :thumbdown:
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bananagranola said:
Ace Think Tank in my signature.
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Was looking into that but read this :
UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER WILL FACTORY RESET THE DEVICE AND YOU WILL LOSE DATA
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So i'm f ' ed either way ?
Root = loose data
Unrooted = no way to backup ...

I thought that only happens when you run a RUU. Can someone confirm?

I can confirm, bootlader will factory reset the device.
Sent from my REVOlutionary DHD!
thanks don't hurt ya know?

:crying:
So no way to get my app data to my new phone ?

No one that has a soluton for me ?

glevitan said:
My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.
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I use my backup pro. Its way simpler than titanium backup, and there is a free version but I paid for the pro. My backup will nack everything up for you but if your not rooted then it isnt able to access the app data so cant back it up. I dont think you will be able to find a solution without rooting. When I rooted I used the AAHK which is no longer available on xda as the dev fell fell out of love with them but can be found through google.

tonylee000 said:
I use my backup pro. Its way simpler than titanium backup, and there is a free version but I paid for the pro. My backup will nack everything up for you but if your not rooted then it isnt able to access the app data so cant back it up. I dont think you will be able to find a solution without rooting. When I rooted I used the AAHK which is no longer available on xda as the dev fell fell out of love with them but can be found through google.
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But like stated before , rooting will factory reset my phone wich means my app data is last anyway ...

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[Q] Anyone tested VISIONary on HTC Desire?

Hey folks,
Just QQ, has anyone tested whether VISIONary works on HTC Desire? I've dug into other threads here and found out it works on both HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z but I couldn't find anything in terms of HTC Desire.
Cheers!
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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ste1164 said:
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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Please excuse my ignorance but could you explain what are NAND/eMMC locked devices?
Whatever NAND/eMMC locked devices are, I have just installed VISIONary version r10 from the Android market on my unbranded, unrooted HTC Desire and tried to get temp root but it simply didn't work
Anyway I hope HTC Desire will be supported in next releases as it's great idea to temporarily become a root only when it's needed and using one-click app from the market.
Hi folks, it looks like we can finally very easily get a temproot on Desire
I've just installed the latest version of VISIONary+ (r14) from http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/ Once I opened the app and clicked "Temproot now" then after ~20sec I got a temproot - take a look at attached screenshots as an evidence
The root access has been lost after shutdown/reboot a phone as intended.
Hmm... Looks interesting.. Have to try it.
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
droidzone said:
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
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I've installed a free version of Titanium Backup! 3.6.0 from the market so can confirm that it works fine while temprooted
So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
EddyOS said:
So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
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Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
Shame you need pro to backup apps...
droidzone said:
Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
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Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
droidzone said:
Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
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It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
EddyOS said:
Shame you need pro to backup apps...
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I've already tested Titanium Pro and it works fine while temprooted too. Take a look at attached screenshot
Btw, why did you think it's not supposed to work? please note that actually there no difference between "be rooted" and "be temprooted" In both of cases you're logged on the OS as a root Of course while you're "temprooted", you'll lose your superuser level of permissions after reboot/restart your device what means you'll need to use VISIONary again to get temproot later if needed.
nitemarc said:
It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
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Yup..I wasnt talking about Visionary, but about my other post about a wish for a Fake Nandroid. But apparently that isnt about Fake Flash isnt about that either!
I've temp rooted using VISIONary (thanks Paul) and that's as far as I'm willing to go atm. I've installed Titanium, SetCPU and the cache cleaner app. Very nice indeed but what else can I do now with temp root?
You can't do much with temp root apart from use root needed apps.
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Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
beartiger said:
Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
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no i tried and since the phone is "shut down" while in recovery then clockworkmod doesnt appear, only the stock recovery appears.

[Q] market app is missing in htc desire hd

hi
i m using htc desire hd running 2.2 the problem is market app is missing in the phone i have also hard reset the phone but problem is not resolved.
can anyone give me the correct version of market apk which runs smoothly or any way to fix the problem. my phone is not rooted
market app is called "play store" now
maybe you missed it?
strange problem if theres really no market app ...
Balthasar18 said:
market app is called "play store" now
maybe you missed it?
strange problem if theres really no market app ...
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i haved checked.. no market no play store ....
google play
support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=190860
maybe this page helps you
Download the Playstore and install from sdcard ....
markus123456 said:
Download the Playstore and install from sdcard ....
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i have tried many verison from xda also but they dont run smoth some force close as they open and some force close after sometime
komalsaeed said:
i have tried many verison from xda also but they dont run smoth some force close as they open and some force close after sometime
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still waiting for the solution
komalsaeed said:
still waiting for the solution
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Hey you are going to need to install the gapps file from recovery mode it will install google play for you as well as let google play run with no problems
http://www.4shared.net/download/6dFHaITkXgkdtuWL7nQjrT/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.html
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Hey you are going to need to install the gapps file from recovery mode it will install google play for you as well as let google play run with no problems
http://www.4shared.net/download/6dFHaITkXgkdtuWL7nQjrT/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.html
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can you please guide me step by step process. I am not advanced user
Locky123 said:
Hey you are going to need to install the gapps file from recovery mode it will install google play for you as well as let google play run with no problems
http://www.4shared.net/download/6dFHaITkXgkdtuWL7nQjrT/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.html
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I doubt he can do that, since he's not rooted and therefore probably doesn't have a custom recovery.
bananagranola said:
I doubt he can do that, since he's not rooted and therefore probably doesn't have a custom recovery.
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yes.. The devise is not rooted
Sorry didn't notice
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Is there any particular reason you don't want to root your phone? It's really easy and will solve your problem. Otherwise have you tried contact HTC? Is it 2.2 or 2.3? Have a look at settings/about phones and report back.
echineon said:
Is there any particular reason you don't want to root your phone? It's really easy and will solve your problem. Otherwise have you tried contact HTC? Is it 2.2 or 2.3? Have a look at settings/about phones and report back.
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as i m not a advanced user thatshwy i dont wanna take risk. my cell is 2.2. is there an easy way to root the phone is yes then please guide me i can go for it if there is no soultion then..
Rooting is fairly easy well I believe it is if you choose to you cab always switch it back
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Locky123 said:
Rooting is fairly easy well I believe it is if you choose to you cab always switch it back
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can you please guide an easy way to root my desire hd 2.2.
komalsaeed said:
can you please guide an easy way to root my desire hd 2.2.
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Go to post #7 in the link in my signature. It has all the info you need, including a link to a tool called AAHK. Make sure you read everything, including the "effen manual" that comes with AAHK.
Side note when rooting your phones (UK aus speakers might find this funny) try to use Linux to go through the process. Windows can sometimes get complications due to drivers or os 64 and 32. Perhaps get Ubuntu and run it on disc to root your phone. Just follow strictly the instruction posted by. The bloke above me n you will be fine.
bananagranola said:
Go to post #7 in the link in my signature. It has all the info you need, including a link to a tool called AAHK. Make sure you read everything, including the "effen manual" that comes with AAHK.
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where is post 7 i didnt find.. can you please write here again
komalsaeed said:
where is post 7 i didnt find.. can you please write here again
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Just search for AAHK in DHD forum and remember before doing anything read the manual included.

[Q] Does rooting wipe?

So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
race55 said:
So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
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He's on the latest official sense 3.0 btw. Phone comes from t-mobile but is unbranded.
race55 said:
So i have a lot of experience with htc's, and my dad has a Desire HD he wants to root so he can use Ad-Blockers etc... SO i read the sticky, but does it wipe the phone? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... Also can i just keep him on the stock rom, because it mentions flashing a new rom etc. and i don't want to do that.
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EDIT: forgot about downgrades.
race55 said:
He's on the latest official sense 3.0 btw. Phone comes from t-mobile but is unbranded.
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Yes it wipes as the aahk has to downgrade from that version
marsdta said:
Yes it wipes as the aahk has to downgrade from that version
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So no way to root without wiping? Is there a way to backup basically everything?
race55 said:
So no way to root without wiping? Is there a way to backup basically everything?
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Apps, yes. App data, no. At least not that I know of.
So i first backup, then the rest wil happen automatically with the toolkit? Or i need to downgrade manually?
race55 said:
So i first backup, then the rest wil happen automatically with the toolkit? Or i need to downgrade manually?
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AAHK comes with a very clear manual. That should all be covered in it.
According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24601222&postcount=6254 It can be rooted without downgrading or losing everything.... Anyone can confirm this for me? Would try it myself but cannot risk messing up my dads phone..
race55 said:
According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24601222&postcount=6254 It can be rooted without downgrading or losing everything.... Anyone can confirm this for me? Would try it myself but cannot risk messing up my dads phone..
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Is that for SuperOneClick? I believe that only works when you're already S-OFF.
bananagranola said:
Is that for SuperOneClick? I believe that only works when you're already S-OFF.
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Bollocks... So no rooting unfortunately
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queries

Hello guys .. i have samsung galaxy nexus . Stock handset. Never been rooted
I want to root my nexus for first time so i have some confusions in my mind which i want to clarify so that rooting goes smooth
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Question : rooting erased all the prvious data and apps. I have heard there are some apps which bakup the game and software as well as the other mobile content. Please suggest Some good backup app
Question: i have 4.1.1 currently on device. Does it mean after root only 4.1.1 roms will work on my handset
Welcome to the Nexus club
Here are the answers to your question;
Data Wipe:
Rooting erases all the previous data and apps? NO. The process of rooting only provides you with root access. (But dont be so happy yet )
As I see, you have a stock Nexus. So before Rooting, you have to do a process called Unlocking. And Unlocking wipes EVERYTHING.
Once rooted and unlocked, when you flash switch ROM's you have to do a clean flash. This removes Apps. But preserves app data and sdcard contents.
Backup:
For backup of data, I'd recommend go for individual apps. The below are my personal favorites for backups:
For app backup, use ES File explorer (It only backs up free app, and no data backup)
For SMS and log backup, use SMS Backup & Restore and Call Logs Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu
Contacts and calendar and mails will anyways be synced with google account.
Do all the backups and copy these contents to your PC and then proceed with the Unlocking and Rooting.
Once Rooted, you can use Titanium Backup or ROM Toolbox for data and app backup.
Android Version
i have 4.1.1 currently on device. Does it mean after root only 4.1.1 roms will work on my handset. NO
When I bought my GNex, i was on 4.1.1 too. Currently I am on 4,2.2 ROM's
Hope this helps.
All the best.
Regards,
Neeraj
OP its spelled curious. English is crazy like that
Bloods thicker than water
namtombout said:
OP its spelled curious. English is crazy like that
Bloods thicker than water
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/queries
Was a play on words like don't start acting like queeries in here
Bloods thicker than water
Thanks for the reply.
I have recently updated to 4.1.1 OTA and notices the battery of my mobile phone is draining quite quickly.
I am thinking to root the device and update it to 4.2.2 (i think its latest available).
Is it possible ? Where to find software to update ?
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arslan_sweeto1 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have recently updated to 4.1.1 OTA and notices the battery of my mobile phone is draining quite quickly.
I am thinking to root the device and update it to 4.2.2 (i think its latest available).
Is it possible ? Where to find software to update ?
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it is very much possible. u r on maguro/toro/toroplus?
How to chek that if im on moguro or anything else.
arslan_sweeto1 said:
How to chek that if im on moguro or anything else.
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What county are you in?
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It is maguro device
arslan_sweeto1 said:
It is maguro device
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here's the link of the stock 4.2.2 ROM for maguro
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#takjujdq39
Once i have downloaded the rom
I have to unlock bootloader, root the device and then flash 4.2.2 on the device. Is it right ?
And when i will flash custom roms on device it will replace the stock 4.2.2 ?
far streona
arslan_sweeto1 said:
Once i have downloaded the rom
I have to unlock bootloader, root the device and then flash 4.2.2 on the device. Is it right ?
And when i will flash custom roms on device it will replace the stock 4.2.2 ?
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yes & yes...
(& u don't have to root your device to flash this ROM)
please click on THANKS, if I have helped you...
I dnt have to root my device to update it to 4.2.2 ?
How to do that? Can u refer me some tutorial for that.
The only way i knew was to root the device and then update it.
arslan_sweeto1 said:
I dnt have to root my device to update it to 4.2.2 ?
How to do that? Can u refer me some tutorial for that.
The only way i knew was to root the device and then update it.
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follow this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20494965&postcount=1
if you have any question/confusion, feel free to ask :good:
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if i flash with any custom rom, will it overwrite the 4.1.1 and is there possibility that it will solve my battery drqain problem ?
arslan_sweeto1 said:
if i flash with any custom rom, will it overwrite the 4.1.1 and is there possibility that it will solve my battery drqain problem ?
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yes, it will overwrite.
the battery life is more related to Kernel than ROM; so to get good battery life it would be better to flash a good kernel...
I have seen different tutorials for updating galaxy nexus to 4.2.2. It says something like this
"In order to do the update your device needs to be running build JOP40D"
But when i saw my settings in the mobile, my built number appears to be
JRO03C.I9250JPLH2
Now whats the point here .. ?
how to update the device in this situation
fastboot flash system nameofsystemimage.img
fastboot flash boot nameofbootimage.img
quite simple actually
the question here is that the build number of my device donot agree as given according to pre requistes of the process as per tutorials ..

Need a new ROM

I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
xploitUK said:
I will be needing to use Barclays app tomorrow for a number of different meetings tomorrow but as I have root access on my phone it currently doesnt work.
Can anyone recommend me a ROM to flash that doesnt have root and will therefor allow me to use the barclays app?
Thanks in advance...
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Could go back to stock your stock rom
Sent from space
OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
xploitUK said:
OK will have to look and check which tomorrow I need - any easy way to do this?
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Sure have a read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 to see if your stock rom is listed & don't forget to hit the :thumbup: for @Mr Hofs thread
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md5 mismatch on hasoon2000's M8 toolkit
edit nvm
or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
wase4711 said:
or, you could try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
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BenPope said:
@wase4711 I don't know of any that work for Barclays app, because it uses native code to check.
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Thanks, have already tried that, as @BenPope pointed out, not working at the moment though
Managed to get Barclay's app working - used twrp recovery file manager to delete the su files and apk

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