Greetings all!
I'm interested in people's opinions and experiences for and against using a screen protector, particularly with regards to my expected usage patterns.
I plan to put my Note 8 in a book-cover style case (ie, a case with a protective cover that can be folded flat behind the case, such as, the official book cover, or this pic of the STM Skinny, for Note 10.1). I'm currently leaning towards the STM Cape (though I'm waiting to hear back from STM regarding several questions, such as confirmation that the case will indeed fold flat against the back). With most of these kinds of cases there is a soft type of inner lining that is intended to protect the device screen. And, if you fold the cover behind the back of the device you must be careful about where you lay the device as the soft inner lining can pick up dust, debris, etc. and then transmit those potentially abrasive items to the screen. As a side note, if anyone has come across a book style case that somehow avoids this problem I would be interested to hear about it!
I go back and forth about whether to bother with a screen protector or not. I am glad to know that there are good options if I do go with a screen protector (eg, the MiniGuard Screen Protector), but I do sometimes write with a heavy hand which I've read doesn't always work well with screen protectors (ie, it sounds like the protector can be a little spongy such that you can end up inadvertently digging into the screen protector a little, or at least experiencing an increased resistance).
But a part of me thinks that if I'm going to be trying to be careful about the surfaces I lay the opened Note on anyway (wherein the soft inner lining is being exposed to the table surface, etc.), then am I really gaining much/anything by adding a screen protector to the mix? To put it another way: Just because I add a screen protector, I'm not therefore going to be less careful about where I place the Note 8 because I'm still going to want to avoid the soft inner lining picking up debris.
And of course the case itself should protect the Note 8 while in transport (especially a case like the STM Cape which should be very secure at staying closed).
I guess an implied question with all this is just how vulnerable is the screen on the Note 8? And how important is a screen protector when you're already using a case?
Obviously this is a personal decision that I have to come to for myself, but I am interested in people's thoughts on the above from any who wish to share based on the experience and perceptions.
Thanks!
I get it for all my devices and I typically purchase the wet apply self healing skins/screen protectors. I like the texture of the skin and it typically doesn't get damaged regardless of what I clean my device with.
A word of warning, the S-Pen kinda "warps" the skin more than usual. It tends to have a tangerine or orange like texture more than usual.
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I used to get screen protectors for my phones and tablets. Then I realized, my phones are often in my pockets, sometimes with my keys, etc. So there is an actual risk of scratching. My tablets, however, are generally in some kind of case with a cover and the only time the screen is "exposed" is when I'm using it...and I don't have adamantium claws or anything, so the risk of scratching the screen is nearly non-existent for me. So I don't waste the money anymore. With regards to the Note lineup, I'm not sure how well the S-Pen works through a screen protector either...
So I wouldn't say I am "against" them as much as I don't really see a need...
The screen protector doesn't affect the s pen accuracy (at least I don't notice any difference)
I usually apply one of the anti-glare types to protect against stupid things (like if it the case flap opens and it hits something in my backpack) and also so make the screen a little less shiny (my office lights are annoying on reflective surfaces)
Most high end tablets and phones have gorilla glass or other hardened glass which is pretty scratch resistant but i still feel better throwing a layer of plastic on...
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I get it for all my devices and I typically purchase the wet apply self healing skins/screen protectors. I like the texture of the skin and it typically doesn't get damaged regardless of what I clean my device with.
A word of warning, the S-Pen kinda "warps" the skin more than usual. It tends to have a tangerine or orange like texture more than usual.
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Thanks for sharing details about the type of screen protector you use (including texture, etc.), as well as the S-Pen interaction. When you say "warps" do you mean that the skin of the screen protector is a little spongy and so it gives a little under the pressure of the S-Pen? Does that bother you, and how does it feel for writing, drawing, etc. then?
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My tablets, however, are generally in some kind of case with a cover and the only time the screen is "exposed" is when I'm using it...
So I wouldn't say I am "against" them as much as I don't really see a need...
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I appreciate knowing that you approach your tablets that way and that things have worked well for you (ie, no screen catastrophes due to lack of screen protector). And I like your distinction between phones vs tablets regarding the potentially different sources of trauma they can be subjected to (adamantium claws notwithstanding ).
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The screen protector doesn't affect the s pen accuracy (at least I don't notice any difference).
I usually apply one of the anti-glare types...
Most high end tablets and phones have gorilla glass or other hardened glass which is pretty scratch resistant but i still feel better throwing a layer of plastic on...
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Thanks for the comment regarding S-Pen accuracy and for sharing your preferred screen protector type (eg, anti-glare). I also appreciate hearing your assessment of the glass in high end devices tending to be fairly durable (regardless of whether it is officially gorilla glass). Anti-glare is one of the things I have been considering. Does the anti-glare protector "dim" or "dull" the screen vibrancy (ie, colors, brightness, etc.) to a degree that bothers you?
Thanks for the great contributions thus far folks! These are exactly the kinds of comments, observations, etc. I was hoping for!
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Thanks for the comment regarding S-Pen accuracy and for sharing your preferred screen protector type (eg, anti-glare). I also appreciate hearing your assessment of the glass in high end devices tending to be fairly durable (regardless of whether it is officially gorilla glass). Anti-glare is one of the things I have been considering. Does the anti-glare protector "dim" or "dull" the screen vibrancy (ie, colors, brightness, etc.) to a degree that bothers you?
Thanks for the great contributions thus far folks! These are exactly the kinds of comments, observations, etc. I was hoping for!
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I've used "gloss antiglare" and "matte antiglare" ones --I live in Japan and there are a tons of different screen protectors. I found that with the Elecom branded ones, the gloss "anti-glare" wasn't really anti glare (still looked reflective), but the Matte ones are pretty good (very little reflection).
The Matte protectors take a little getting used to (as you'd expect glass to look shiny and suddenly it looks a little dull. <- It doesnt dull the vibrancy of the colors or brightness, it just looks like a different texture like printing a photo on regular paper vs glossy paper.)
I enjoy having it because it kills the reflection of my office lights which was the main purpose for me to buy it.
The s-pen interactions feel the same regardless of matte or gloss (very smooth <- I have the s-pen with the eraser and changable tips and both the rubber and hard tips feel fine)
I would imagine that with a wet apply (self healing) skin, the texture would change the s-pen experience (i have a wet apply protector on my NDS and the stylus feels different on it because it has some grip and texture <- Hover would be the same but once you touch the screen perhaps it wouldnt be as smooth <- Bonisaur, care to weight in?
If you are asking the question, its on your mind. So you might as well just put a protector on, and give yourself peace of mind.
Plenty of reports on various devices of even Gorilla Glass getting scratched from what the owners swear as "normal usage". So don't take for granted that GG or other treated glasses won't scratch.
I'll agree that tablets are usually not exposed to the same use and abuse as a phone. But on the HTC Flyer tablet, the pen alone was enough to scratch the screen. Yes, that device is 2 years old at this point. But certainly a "high end" device for its time. With the screen getting scratched from the pen that was intended to be used with it.
It largely comes down to personal preference. There are plenty that don't use a screen protector on tablets or phones. I don't question that choice at all, I can certainly understand the reasoning (better feel, mostly). But the fact of the matter is, that once you do scratch the screen, there is really not going back, and it can't really be undone. So if you choose to go without a protector, you better be prepared to live with the consequences, if the screen does get scratched. There are inevitable post by folks that regret not using a protector (even on devices with Gorilla Glass) after getting the screen scratched up.
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Thanks for sharing details about the type of screen protector you use (including texture, etc.), as well as the S-Pen interaction. When you say "warps" do you mean that the skin of the screen protector is a little spongy and so it gives a little under the pressure of the S-Pen? Does that bother you, and how does it feel for writing, drawing, etc. then?
Thanks for the great contributions thus far folks! These are exactly the kinds of comments, observations, etc. I was hoping for!
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No problem! It has a slightly higher amount of push-pull to it. If you have a skin on any other device, I suggest you try "writing" over it. It has never once bothered me while I've taken notes for lecture or drew on Sketchbook. I can still use the S-Pen with pressure accuracy and without any hiccups. I.e. if I want to draw a straight line, it will be a straight line. When you hold the device at an angle though, you can see where the line is. It disappears over time as you just continue to draw over the skin or it just naturally heals. Like I said though, it has a very slight "tangerine" texture that is only visible if tilted at a certain angle or if there is a very intense glare. I only noticed it after reading a few reviews from Amazon.
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I've used "gloss antiglare" and "matte antiglare" ones --I live in Japan and there are a tons of different screen protectors. I found that with the Elecom branded ones, the gloss "anti-glare" wasn't really anti glare (still looked reflective), but the Matte ones are pretty good (very little reflection).
The Matte protectors take a little getting used to (as you'd expect glass to look shiny and suddenly it looks a little dull. <- It doesnt dull the vibrancy of the colors or brightness, it just looks like a different texture like printing a photo on regular paper vs glossy paper.)
I enjoy having it because it kills the reflection of my office lights which was the main purpose for me to buy it.
The s-pen interactions feel the same regardless of matte or gloss (very smooth <- I have the s-pen with the eraser and changable tips and both the rubber and hard tips feel fine)
I would imagine that with a wet apply (self healing) skin, the texture would change the s-pen experience (i have a wet apply protector on my NDS and the stylus feels different on it because it has some grip and texture <- Hover would be the same but once you touch the screen perhaps it wouldnt be as smooth <- Bonisaur, care to weight in?
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Thanks for all that very helpful info!
redpoint73 said:
If you are asking the question, its on your mind. So you might as well just put a protector on, and give yourself peace of mind.
Plenty of reports on various devices of even Gorilla Glass getting scratched from what the owners swear as "normal usage". So don't take for granted that GG or other treated glasses won't scratch.
I'll agree that tablets are usually not exposed to the same use and abuse as a phone. But on the HTC Flyer tablet, the pen alone was enough to scratch the screen. Yes, that device is 2 years old at this point. But certainly a "high end" device for its time. With the screen getting scratched from the pen that was intended to be used with it.
It largely comes down to personal preference. There are plenty that don't use a screen protector on tablets or phones. I don't question that choice at all, I can certainly understand the reasoning (better feel, mostly). But the fact of the matter is, that once you do scratch the screen, there is really not going back, and it can't really be undone. So if you choose to go without a protector, you better be prepared to live with the consequences, if the screen does get scratched. There are inevitable post by folks that regret not using a protector (even on devices with Gorilla Glass) after getting the screen scratched up.
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Very good points! And that is scary stuff regarding the HTC Flyer--I had not heard about that!
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No problem! It has a slightly higher amount of push-pull to it. If you have a skin on any other device, I suggest you try "writing" over it. It has never once bothered me while I've taken notes for lecture or drew on Sketchbook. I can still use the S-Pen with pressure accuracy and without any hiccups. I.e. if I want to draw a straight line, it will be a straight line. When you hold the device at an angle though, you can see where the line is. It disappears over time as you just continue to draw over the skin or it just naturally heals. Like I said though, it has a very slight "tangerine" texture that is only visible if tilted at a certain angle or if there is a very intense glare. I only noticed it after reading a few reviews from Amazon.
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Thanks--that is very helpful! I'm thinking then that for my preferences I'll probably lean more towards a dry apply (like the MiniGuard that's been reviewed here).
I'm using a cheap anti-glare matte screen protector from eBay with my Note 8. It doesn't affect the S Pen sensitivity the slightest and in fact makes it feel more like writing on paper. As a matte screen lover I have no complaints with it.
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I have been using Zagg's invisibleShield for my Vibrant. However, recently I got my phone replaced and since I have heard so many good things about Realook, I wanted to give Rk a try instead of just ordering a replacement iS. Now that I have experienced both (albeit, I have only been using Rk for a short amount of time whereas I have plenty of experience with iS since this is my second device with it), I figure I should share my findings with my fellow XDA'ers. Note this is a comparison of only screen protectors - not whole body protectors.
Size/Coverage
Winner: Realook
Both iS and Rk cover 98%+ of the screen, including the touchkeys at the bottom. Both iS and Rk have an opening cut out for the speaker (Rk has a hole for the speaker, covering above and below the speaker, while iS has a cut-out for the speaker, not covering the small area above it). Only iS has an opening cut out for the light sensors - Rk does not have a cut out for the light sensors.
Rk covers more of the phone than iS. With iS, there is about .5-1 cm uncovered area - on all sides - between the screen protector and the edge of the phone. The uncovered area is large enough that a simple case will not cover it (i.e. you may find it catching dust, etc.) but small enough to not cause you protection issues or worries. Rk, on the other hand, covers more area. Depending on how well you apply it, you can potentially have very little uncovered area between the screen protector and the edge of the phone. Any area that is uncovered is small enough to be covered by a simple case, so little to no dust or dirt should get there. Personally, I was able to apply Rk in such a way that for the top, right, and left my case covered whatever Rk did not; I was not so lucky for the bottom -- there is a very minor uncovered gap that will probably catch dirt, etc.
Application/Installation
Winner: Depends on personal preference
Rk and iS differ highly in how they are applied to the phone. Rk is a "dry install' while iS is a "wet install".
With iS you are provided with some liquid solution that you use to apply the protector onto your phone. You spray the liquid on your fingertips - to help avoid fingerprints - and on the protector, before applying the protector onto the phone.
With Rk you have to peel off protective covers (the protector is covered by two "covers" on the front and back which need to be peeled off) before applying the protector on your phone.
Both iS and Rk are easily reapply-able if you make a mistake in positioning the protector. I hear Rk can even be reapplied at later dates, but I have not tested this out personally so I don't know. iS is also supposedly reapply-able, but only if you have any solution left.
There are both advantages and disadvantages to the iS/wet and Rk/dry application methods.
Because iS uses a liquid solution to assist in applying the protector, it is much easier to avoid catching dust and dirt particles under the protector and to avoid fingerprint marks. On the other hand, air bubbles are likely to occur and you need to be sure to push out the air bubbles with something like a credit card. Also, since you don't have to worry about fingerprints (thanks to the liquid solution) it is a bit easier to hold and apply iS if you are clumsy, like me. You need to be careful to conserve the liquid solution, though, because once you are out, your short on luck: You can either beg customer service to send you another one, or order extra solution from somewhere.
The advantage Rk's dry install offers is immediate up-time, and little-to-no air bubbles in the main area of the screen (there may be air bubble at the edges and/or around the speaker, though). With iS, you need to allow the phone to "dry" for something like 8-10 hours, whereas you can start using your phone with Rk ASAP. On the other hand, dust and dirt particles will drive you mad while trying to apply Rk, and you need to be careful to not touch the adhesive side with your fingers otherwise you may have fingerprint issues.
Two things that irk me about Rk are the confusing installation directions (you really need to be skilled with your fingers to do it as they want you to), and the fact that there was dirt/dust on the covers that protect the screen protector. The protector itself was 100% clean -- the two covers that protect the front and back/adhesive side, though, were a bit dirty so when you try to position the protector on your screen, as per the directions, prior to pulling off the two protective covers, the dirt/dust gets transferred to your screen and if you aren't careful you may not wipe it off before applying the protector.
Quality
Winner: invisibleShield
Both are excellent quality -- they have little to no effect on picture quality when compared to a naked Vibrant. I bet most people wouldn't even notice you have a screen protector if not specifically looking for one.
However, one very minor issue I noticed is at the lowest brightness setting, Rk caused the screen to be minor-ly less bright than iS. This is very minor and no one will even notice it unless specifically looking for it. At higher brightness settings, this issue is not even ascertainable.
Both Rk and iS attract fingerprints easily, and Rk is a bit easier to wipe off than iS.
One major issue I found, though, are reflections. Rk claims to be "anti-reflective" and "anti-glare" (it also claims to be "anti-fingerprint", which it isn't as I just mentioned), but in reality that couldn't be any further from the truth. I kid you not when I say you may confuse your phone for a mirror if you have Rk -- the reflection is that bad. While inside it isn't too bad as long as you don't have a light source directly behind you. When outside, however, the reflection/glare (whatever you want to call it) is terrible. Even on full brightness the reflection/glare is very annoying while outside -- forget using your phone on low brightness, which is something I could sometimes get away when I used iS.
iS, on the other hand, does well in protecting against glares and reflections. Indoors, even with a light source directly behind me, the phone is still very usable. And as long as I keep the protector clean, iS causes no problems outdoors.
Texture
Winner: Realook
Here is one major area that Rk and iS differ. Rk has more of a "glass" texture to it, while iS is more "plasticky". In other words, with Rk you will have more smooth, glass like feeling while with iS you may find a bit more friction. That is not to say Rk is always smooth -- if you drag your finger on Rk without picking it up for too long you will start to feel lots of friction also. However, in general, Rk has a must better feel to it than iS. In fact, iS has somewhat of a "break-in" period where you may notice your fingers sticking to iS making using a touchscreen near impossible for the first few days.
Price
Winner: Depends on how many times you replace your phone
Realook costs you $10.99 with free shipping (both Amazon and eBay listings provide free shipping) for a two-pack.
invisibleShield screen protector only (not fully body cover) costs you $14.99 + shipping for one protector. (You may be able to get a 50% off coupon for iS if you submit your e-mail for their awards/giveaways program - I did.) However, iS has a "life-time guarantee" where you can get a "free" iS replacement if your screen protector ever gets scratched. (You may also get a free replacement if you get your device replaced, like a warranty replacement -- they allow you to do that.) I put free in quotes because, it isn't really free -- you have to pay $3.99 for shipping and send back the old screen protector (which will only cost you an envelope and a stamp).
Final Words
Both Realook and invisibleShield are top-class. They are both terrific products, both with advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer Realook's "glassy" feeling and better coverage than iS but the reflection/glare on Realook is a deal breaker since I use my phone outside often. So, my next course of action will be to see if Realook has any sort of money back guarantee since this product fails to do as it advertises when it comes to reflection and glare. In other words, I am going with invisibleShield. For everyone else, however, I can't provide a general recommendation since everyone has their own tastes and preferences. I do hope, however, my comparison here helps you make your decision.
I have IS, it works as it should thus far. Does the one you use, tetain its shape after its ben scratched or dented by something like IS. I like the way IS feels, everyone else hates it though lol. Guess it doesnt matter since it is my phone lol.
Invisible Shield is a ***** to install. Its very sticky and kept sticking on my fingers and flapping up. It took me a while to get it right. Other than the install issue, I am very happy with IS. The shield is already scratched up but it is very strong material and I know that my vibrant glass underneath is unscratched. I am thinking about sending the scratched IS back for a replacement but since the install is a ***** I will wait until it is really scratched up.
I've used both and IMO RealLook is superior by far. It doesn't look like I have anything on the screen. I haven't personally noticed any glare issues. I hated InvisibleShield. It looked like I had a covering on my screen, it smudged easily, and was hard to wipe the smudges off. With RealLook, I just use my shirt and it looks sparkling new. I had a go of it getting all of the bubble around the edge to come out, but once they were out, it was flawless.
I have also had both screen protectors on my Vibrant and the Realook beats the InvisibleShield hands down. If you are looking for a screen protector that is invisible in every way... The Reallook is the one for you.
Realook all the way. I had IS on my HD2 and hated it, it's thick, sticky even after install around the edges and kept peeling up.
Realook is easy to clean, looks like there's nothing there, as very low glare, and your fingers glide over the screen.
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I just got mt real look yesterday, I love it. It looks like nothing is there, easy to put on too. I was surprised how fast I got it. I ordered it thursday and got it monday. Awesome
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Firstly, I want to thank DarkAgent for the very comprehensive review. Props to you! The review is intelligent, thorough, and very sensible.
And on that note, I have been a 'long-time' user of the BestSkinsEver (or BSE) products ever since they became more main-stream; I believe one of my first orders dates back to 2006. I have personally put more BSE/IS skins on devices than I can remember, literally dozens. And I must say the main reason I switched/used BSE's products in the first place was for that of their low cost, especially in consideration to InvisibleShield. With that said, I will have to admit that perhaps the most annoying thing about the skin in general I have found is its ability to attract dust/dirt/junk on, and along, the edges of the skin. This is often not only upsets the look of the device, but it in turn starts to gum up the adhesive of the skin and ultimately separates the skin from the device.
A rather long way to get around to saying that while I am quite happy with the product, and that I can now quite consistently get good results, I am open to other options.
The Realook has me tempted, if for nothing else it will help me in my own personal knowledge and for future recommendations to others.
Thanks again for the review/comparison, it was thoroughly appreciated!
I'd say Realook is look. I do get glare sometimes, but more of the time my screen is sharp as can be.
I love the phantomskinz screen protector. You don't even know there is one on it and it self heals itself.
Here's my problem..I love IS bc it really feels like it adds a layer of protection to the screen, it applies great and I've never had a single issue with bubbles, peeling, scratches, or the application process. I've used IS on at least 5 devices. What i dont like is the friction you experience with the protector and the screen quality has always been negatively affected in terms of brightness and clarity.
Now I've also used many hard protectors and have issues with them too, mainly its that they always get scratched up, begin to peel and quickly look terrible. So does RF have these issues? If I'm spending $10 on screen protectors I'd rather buy 10 $0.99 protectors and just swap them when they're scratched up. So is RF actually scratch resistant or only a screen protector? I'd rather stay with IS and not have to worry about ever replacing it due to scratches or peeling if RF is just like every other "dry" protector out there.
Thanks for the review, perfect timing for this too since I plan to order some accessories this weekend
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I love the phantomskinz screen protector. You don't even know there is one on it and it self heals itself.
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Bodyguardz does the same thing, scratches get buffed out with normal use, and fade away.
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I've tried both, first iS then Realook.
I teared off iS the same day I put it on. That sticky feeling simply kills! It reminds
you constantly that there's something on your screen. Yes it is visually invisible, maybe. But mentally, it's NOT. And that sticky touch feels nasty as well.
Realook is a total different story, after putting it on (yes, I managed to put it on without a single dust getting between), I almost don't feel any screen protector there. It's smooth and responsive. All the way hands down.
I've used both and Realook is miles better. The IS yellows over time and distorts the screen too much. The friction on the screen is also annoying and is a constant reminder that you have it on. Finally, over time the edges will attract dust and dirt and start to gum up which eventually causes it to peel off. The only upside is that the stickiness (friction) is nice when you're holding the phone if you have it on the entire body.
I've had my realook on for almost a year now and don't have any problems. I've used it heavily and it doesn't show a scratch. The best part is that it's completely invisible both by looks AND feel. There is absolutely no comparison, the Realook is the superior product.
My advice for anyone putting it on is to dust your area with a damp rag and clean the phone off well. Once it's dry and polished pat it down with scotch tape to get the dust off before you apply the protector (also works on the underside of the Realook if you need to take it off).
I just installed Belkin Matte screen overlay on both of my Xoom's. I paid $25 for a two pack at Target. I am extremely impressed with the product. Eliminated smudges with only a moderate loss in light transmission. I installed using the water spray method. To keep from water damage. I wrapped the periphery of each Xoom with paper towels. I sprayed the sticky side of the overlay with water and carefully layed it down over the screen. Using a credit card wrapped in a few layers of paper towels I started from the center and worked my way out to the sides.
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Same here.. I got the Motorola BT keyboard on clearance for $48, and got the Belkin matte screen 2 pack also
I'm liking it a lot so far, was VERY easy to put on and looks great. It still smudges a little but not nearly as much.
i would also love to see pics... especially how the screen is looking with matte screen protector. the ones i used were terrible.
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i would also love to see pics... especially how the screen is looking with matte screen protector. the ones i used were terrible.
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I tried taking some pics, but you really couldn't see anything.
I've used these type of protectors before. The first coouple days, you feel good about protecting your device, but the lackluster feel and reduced screen look will make you claw it off soon. I have been using my X and XOOM for a long time with no screen protectors with no probem. Motorola has a great build quality with the Corning Gorilla Glass, and it is rather resillient.
P.S. I do keep my xoom in the folio case, and am well pleased with the protection.
I'm glad I saw this thread. I got these for Christmas and kind of f'ed up on the first one, but the second one seemed like it was actually too big slightly, so I exchanged them at Target today and tried the water spray method which worked like a charm. There does seem to be a little moisture in some areas but it has been slowly going away since I reinstalled the new covers a couple hours ago. I personally think the screen looks much better with a matte cover on it (and most screens in general look better with matte covers). On all white backgrounds you can kind of see a prism effect, but I think the contrast is actually better, and pls there are no more fingerprints or any glare. It makes for much better viewing in bright areas too, gonna try it outside soon - without a cover you can't even see the screen unless you're in the shade when outdoors. I think this is the way that LCD displays were meant to be seen, LCD TVs always have a matte screen, and laptop LCDs with a matte finish are always more expensive than glossy. Anyway...I love it.
This is a "hands on" review of the Spigen/Steinheil "Ultrafine" screen protector. From their website:
Ultra Fine : Anti-Fingerprint
Ultra Fine film is a high quality film with a slightly textured film with 30% increased light transmittance. The Ultra Fine is effective in preventing glare, smudges and fingerprints
High grade anti-glare hard coated film
Premium matte surface
Good surface hardness : 3H
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PROS:
1. Reduces glare a bunch.
2. Very fingerprint resistant.
3. VERY nice feel with finger input.
4. After switching to the white nib, VERY nice feel with s-pen. Feels and sounds like you're using a pencil.
5. Cut very well, easy to install.
CONS:
1. Adds artifacts to the screen. Looks like a fine grain. Too much for me, not worth the benefits. As an idea, I put one on my wife's Ipad 3 before I installed mine. Once on, the Ipad3 screen definitely looked WORSE, by a fair margin, than the Note screen naked. So, yeah, if you're looking for a great display, this is not the screen protector to get.
2. Since the white nib is harder, you hear a "tap" every time the nib hits the screen. Annoying.
3. No cutout for the light sensor.
I'm not happy at all with this. Just too much grain. I have the Crystal Clear version on my Skyrocket; I'm going to try that on the Note. Using the black & white nib on the skyrocket has a nice feel. Just a little bit of added resistance, feels more like a pen. Of course, I can't really write on the skyrocket, so only time will tell if I like it on the Note.
If reducing glare is more important than a crystal clear display to you, you might really like this screen protector. If not, pass it by.
Well this is a little unfortunate to hear, however, this is the anti-glare screen protector of theirs, correct? I moved to Steinheil last year after someone said it was the best hands down and you couldn't even tell it was on, for the ultra clear version. I bought one to try it out and it really was A.) Easy to install, no mess ups, B.) Clearer than anything i'd seen and C.) Durable. Bought one for all android users on my account and the iphone. I was waiting for it to come to the Prime but it never did.
SO i'm curious, have you had an anti-glare screen protector on your tablet before? Ever expereienced one? I'm not knocking you down - but some people do not like it because indeed, it makes the screen grainy, due to layers in order to have the appearance of anti glare.
I had another manufacturer's anti-glare on my prime when i had it, and it did indeed negate the effects of glare especially outside. I think some people don't mind the changing of the screen effects (or hardly notice it) and some people notice it terribly, which is why if you go to a electronics storee such as Best Buy and see the Shield Protectors or whatever they are called anti-glare for the iphone, at the bottom of the packaging it states it does make the screen look grainer, in so many words. For an ipad3 with higher resolution than 1920x1200 like the TF700 i can't imagine this is good. The thickness (3H) means the quality of the image should suffer.
MY real question, however, is did you write Steinheil back and complain and get it exchanged or a new one sent out to you? They are known (in my experience) for their quality and customer satisfaction. ALso, how much did you pay for it and more importantly, was it easy to apply without getting hair/dust/etc. In it? On the phones I have it's extremely easy to apply - honest to goodness, however a tablet in my opinion is much more complicated to not get hair/dust/etc on it.
ALso I want to state - this is or should NOT be confused with their Crystal Clear model. THe crystal clear I have on 3 Galaxy S II's and 1 iphone and it truly is, crystal clear (but leaves smudges).
Yes, this is the matte version, not the crystal clear. I have the crystal clear on my skyrocket and it's gorgeous. I have tried other matte screen protectors, on other tablets, and I do have to say this one has less graininess than the others I tried. I will be writing steinheil to see if they will exchange... As I noted in my review, I found it very easy to install.
get the crystal version if you don't want the rainbow effect.
Hi,
I'm launching this question mainly to those who use the Note for drawing with the S Pen.
Before the Note I had an Acer Iconia A500 and I chose a Matte screen protector and I think it was a good decision for that tablet. I used it a lot for watching movies while in the underground, bus or train and the antireflectiveness of the matt finish helped a lot with dark scenes. also, it was a good antifingerprints solution. The drawback was the clarity of the image suffered a little but not very much so it was ok.
Galaxy Note is a totally different matter. I will still be using it for watching videos, of course, but I bought it mainly for drawing and painting.
Being a Wacom Intuos user for more than 15 years, I've always loved the feel of the finish of Intuos surfaces trying to imitate the feel of paper. The finish is matt and it wears with the years so you have to replace it from time to time but you can perfectly live with a very scratched surface for a long time. Of course, over a screen, it is a different matter.
So, I would like to hear the impressions of artist who are using or have used their S-Pen over Matte and Clear screen protectors. Does the S-Pen leave marks on matte surfaces? Does it move more naturally?
I've been holding off on a screen protector for the same reason( but I do have a case with a cover already). I mainly use my Note 10.1 for sketching and drawing.
One thing I will tell you is that some screen protectors, such as the Zagg protectors have a sticky feel to them. I have one on my S3, and I tried using my stylus on it and it adds to much grip to the surface. I think any screen protector that has anti-glare properties but is not matte will have this problem.
Another thing to keep in mind is that even on a standard Wacom tablet the drawing surface gets worn but you just don't notice it because it doesn't have light coming through it.
Also a matte surface will not only show more wear quicker but will also wear down the nib in the stylus faster.
The areas where you draw the most will become shinny, compared to the rest of the surface, from the constant friction.
Matte screen protectors also lower the contrast ratio. It lightens the black areas to be more dark grey.And they slightly distort the picture.
I would think it would feel similar to a Intous. Right now the bare screen is too slippery for my tastes.
Would love to hear from someone who has a matte screen protector and uses their tablet for drawing or painting, but I think one day I'll just break down and try it myself.
P.S. you might want to check out another post I had about my modded S-pen. I bought one with an eraser and modded it to make it easier to hold the button down and bigger so it's easier to hold for extended periods.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-0/278396-s-pen-alternative.html
jedikalimero said:
Hi,
I'm launching this question mainly to those who use the Note for drawing with the S Pen.
Before the Note I had an Acer Iconia A500 and I chose a Matte screen protector and I think it was a good decision for that tablet. I used it a lot for watching movies while in the underground, bus or train and the antireflectiveness of the matt finish helped a lot with dark scenes. also, it was a good antifingerprints solution. The drawback was the clarity of the image suffered a little but not very much so it was ok.
Galaxy Note is a totally different matter. I will still be using it for watching videos, of course, but I bought it mainly for drawing and painting.
Being a Wacom Intuos user for more than 15 years, I've always loved the feel of the finish of Intuos surfaces trying to imitate the feel of paper. The finish is matt and it wears with the years so you have to replace it from time to time but you can perfectly live with a very scratched surface for a long time. Of course, over a screen, it is a different matter.
So, I would like to hear the impressions of artist who are using or have used their S-Pen over Matte and Clear screen protectors. Does the S-Pen leave marks on matte surfaces? Does it move more naturally?
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I have been using the clear screen protector and so far I like it. At first it didn't feel as smooth as without the screen protector so then I put the white touch leads included with the s-pen and it now feels smooth. I think Samsung included the white s-pen leads to use specifically with screen protectors. I haven't tried it on the matte screen protector but I think it will work fine.
smdexin said:
I have been using the clear screen protector and so far I like it. At first it didn't feel as smooth as without the screen protector so then I put the white touch leads included with the s-pen and it now feels smooth. I think Samsung included the white s-pen leads to use specifically with screen protectors. I haven't tried it on the matte screen protector but I think it will work fine.
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Do you mean the leads that are fully made of hard plastic, not the ones made of plastic and rubber?
jedikalimero said:
Do you mean the leads that are fully made of hard plastic, not the ones made of plastic and rubber?
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Yes those ones!
I have the device for some time now, I clean the screen when it dirty, and when not used, it either docked in it's dock for charge, or stored in my SENA leather pouch, is there still any need for a screen protector? I do baby my devices, I have some old SE K800, that now my mom use, and except some very little scratches, on the screen (it actually made of glass with some nice layer of anti reflect :good, it looks like new, I don't put my devices in pockets of my jeans or so, as I always go around with a backpack with all my stuff, be the smartphone in separate pocket.
I read some thread around the net, from what I understood, there a couple types of screen protectors:
dry or wet installation, and glare or anti glare, some has oleophobic layer, there even a glass protector to protect the glass to protect the glas LOL.
I do like how anti glare once, look indoors, and outdoors, but as for the quality of the display quality, it not worth it, you have an HD resolution display, even though it's a PenTile type, it still on paper has HD resolution, anti glare just make it look so bad, I don't know how the more pricey ones, work with it, but if I compare it to my 24" IPS DELL computer display, it's difference of day and night (and in negative form, DELL is much better), so yes I do hate the glare, it much easier to read from matte display, but it the manufacturer thought it need to be glare, and there no option to choose matte or glare (like you have in let say, laptops), I don't know how you guys like anti glare screen protectors.
Then there the standard screen protector we all know, the problem is, they just don't feel like the sleek cool glass, it harder to swipe, and play games with them, I know it's not Gorilla glass, but I just hate to buy a device for resale value, I like all about it, and I don't have the money to replace device every then and now, also I don't run after the newest and best devices at all, when I understood I need a NEXUS, then all I buy is NEXUS, just for the NEXUS experience, and thats basicly all I care about, not that much about the specs, as I don't have so much of a choice, because it's NEXUS.
Also, I just hate dry installation screen protectors, and the one, that we have for the device, not cover all the screen, because it curved, so I maybe consider, a wet installation protector, but then again, they from what I seed, has a weird orange peel feel, and they not feel like the glass, at all, so I just don't know, do I need or don't ? I just like to feel the device, like it is, actually I use the SENA pouch, because I use the dock to charge the device, and don't want to wear the USB port, and that the best and only choice, that feel and looks nice, and protect the device very well, also the screen. as it inside made of soft velvet material, and also, I just can't use any other type of case, as I need it be easily removed from the device, when I need a charge, if I did..the case would wear and tear very fast, and get scratched, and what not.
Thoughts?
I ran a screen protector on my old Galaxy SII and it was fine. However I tried to install a screen protector on my GNEX and because of the curved glass it just wouldnt install good enough for me. So I don't have one. I have owned the phone for almost a year now and no major scratches. I don't use a case either, a few minor dings from small drops but nothing to bad. This phone is pretty tough, at least for me.
I don't want to be paranoid it'll scratch, the thing is, that again, when it not in use, the screen get scratch protection, when in the SENA case, but I want to preserve it for at least some years, or till Google stop update it. in conclusion: anti-glare is good for direct light source, but damage the image quality; wet apply is easy to install, but feels like orange peel LOL, and looks like orange peel; so my only option is normal screen protector then, but which?
There are chapo eBay like 10 for 5$ or so, are they any good? just don't feel like wasting my money for accessory, that I may not like, and another problem, it's problematic to resell, it's not a case or bluetooth speaker..
Maybe some manufacturers has some money back program, if the customer not satisfied with they product? What is the best screen protector out there that:
1. don't cover the edges of the display
2. has oleophobic layer, just like the GNEX screen has?
3. reduce some glare, but not matte type
*If there a wet install protector, that actually feel good, and not rubbery, I also welcome it.
I have used them in the past, but the screen is so much better without them. I take the minor scratches (those you only see under a certain angle/lighting) with it. I have the phone most of the time in the pocket of my jeans. I do remove any dirt/sand from my pocket one a day.
And the oleophobic layer is good for a month ore so, it wears of quickly.
I have a Spigen SGP screen protector since I bought my GNex ad i?m totally satisfied about it.
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Have just started using a extreme guard wet apply protector, but some people don't like it. It's fine with me honestly, grabbed one since it was like 5 bucks for 2 including international shipping. The oleophobic coating on the gnex wears out fast, feels good at first, then it's kind of rough when it wears out a little, one of the motivating factor I got a screen protector as well.
Beamed from my Maguro
if possible, use various films..
You may find the film you like whether it is needed or not.
Generally with a screen protector you feel more confident and convenient
i offer Buff ones.so perfect...
Had an anti-glare.....didn't like it.
My cat likes to gnaw on my phone so the screen protector now has a few scratches, unlike the screen.
Best ones I've ever used were from Bodyguardz. I had to smash my phone screen in a rock to get out of a jam and it didn't even hurt the phone. They also don't change the look of the screen at all like anti glare ones will. Only thing better would likely be the tempered glass variety.
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Best ones I've ever used were from Bodyguardz. I had to smash my phone screen in a rock to get out of a jam and it didn't even hurt the phone. They also don't change the look of the screen at all like anti glare ones will. Only thing better would likely be the tempered glass variety.
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What kind of a jam would you need to smash your phone screen to get out of???
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What kind of a jam would you need to smash your phone screen to get out of???
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Taking pics too close to flood waters full of rocks and was swept into them. Had my phone in hand whole time. Even soaked the phone but worked next day after it dried. And no marks on the screen at all
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1 year and a half with my GNexus without screen protector, no scratches yet but I think I got luck, dropped 2 times but always on the back side
I buy this one at January of this year and for sure its best screen protector i find, The pack have 3 but i only use one and dont need to replace yet.
No marks, no texture, very good deal in my opinion.
Search on Ebay for "New 3x CLEAR Screen Protector Guard Cover Film Samsung Google Galaxy Nexus i9250" the vendor name is "rockymobile"
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Same here.. Never used a screen protector and never had a need for one.. Even with my keys in the same pocket I've never scratched my screen.
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my solution is using a "smaller" size protector which is not cutting according the glass size. It avoids to fit the curved face so the protector signally smaller then the screen glass. I found this type of the protector on the shop and still using it happily. It is petty match with the soft case because the soft case will covered the curved face that protector doesn't. And you don't worry the soft case will tilt the protector up.
I vote no.
Had 1 on 6 months ago since it was included/installed when I purchased, along with a rubber case.
But after testing out another GN without it, it just felt so much smoother, so took it off, but keep the case, which helps keep a grip from slips/drops
I use protector from 1 year ago and I dont have problems using touch and everything is smooth.
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