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I'm looking at the Phone right now and it doen NOT have any slot to insert a SIM card..
I guess is not an International version.
You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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You can call while international on GSM...I believe it is $0.02 a minute for UK to US
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I'm talking about to been able to use your phone overseas with a GSM carrier. Not only in UK ..
The GSM SIM is embedded and not user accessible. If you want to travel and use the phone you are stuck getting screwed by Sprints roaming rates. The iphone 5 and Photon Q are the same way. It's bullsh*t to call them world phones at this point. You could take the phone apart and access the SIM, but then you'd still have to get it unlocked.
I think part of the reason is so many were buying world phones on contract, billing it to the account and selling them overseas and not paying a dime on the account. With all the fraud, I think they took the most drastic route possible. Still BS to screw its traveling customers. People will still find a way if they want to commit fraud. They always do. And we pay for it one way or the other.
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Is this only missing in the Sprint Version? Verizon? I imagine the US GSM variants don't have this issue. Anyone know for sure?
It's purely a Sprint thing. Verizon, by law, can't lock their LTE phones, not even locally. Hence the iphone 5 on Verizon can be used on Tmo and AT&T as well as overseas with other SIMs.
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I got mine from Hong Kong which came with the SIM slot. can not image those locked to a carrier with an embedded SIM... Would those be much cheaper than the generic ones?
welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
wow great stuff, thxxx
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welcome to the world of CDMA carriers, ie. Verizon and Sprint. That was the general rule of thumb. You're locked into one or the other when in the US, but if you travel overseas, you were generally free to pop in a local SIM for cheap service. I think the Verizon version will allow it as well as being unlocked for local service due to the FCC. This is a first for international CDMA phones. Sprint, using different bandwidth for their LTE doesn't have that restriction so to speak. And embedding the GSM SIM is new for them. It hasn't been their MO up until the new LTE phones hit.
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Yes unfortunately this seems to be a Sprint trend on all new international phones. A move which I am not pleased with. What I wasn't sure of is if Verizon was following suit. Can anyone confirm embedded Simms in any of Verizons new international phones? I'd like to see Sprint reverse this policy but it probably won't happen until a lawsuit our FCC ruling against them.
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Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
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Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
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Interesting, I`d like to test my Bell unit now but I don`t have another carriers Micro SIM to test.
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Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
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I should've checked mine before unlocking (USB service) it this afternoon.
My rogers note 2 was unlocked as well from what I have been told this was an oversight with the first batch. Not gonna complain though
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my rogers one has sim lock
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Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
To the original poster, my rogers phone was locked when trying a Tmobile Sim.
Could be that Telus and Bell using same network so might work.
Same is true between rogers Fido
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To the original poster, my rogers phone was locked when trying a Tmobile Sim.
Could be that Telus and Bell using same network so might work.
Same is true between rogers Fido
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No, they do NOT use the same network, they only share towers. Each have their own MNC's. Telus/ Koodo share a network, Bell/Virgin share a network. Also check post 4, Rogers user with an unlocked unit.
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Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
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I was hoping those codes to check on the lock status were going to work too, seeing as how the NA Note II is running the same Exynos Processor as the international one and built the same. But it appears that since we are using the Qualcomm modem for our LTE support they have once again modified what codes work for our custom NA models :/
Looks like the only way to check on the lock status is by just inserting a Micro Sim from another carrier.
Anyone with a Telus Note II that has theirs factory unlocked as well? still curious about this.
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My rogers note 2 was unlocked as well from what I have been told this was an oversight with the first batch. Not gonna complain though
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No, they do NOT use the same network, they only share towers. Each have their own MNC's. Telus/ Koodo share a network, Bell/Virgin share a network. Also check post 4, Rogers user with an unlocked unit.
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I stand somewhat corrected but Virgin/Bell
Rogers/Fido have often worked despite being locked because they operate on same network. thought maybe since Telus shares infrastructure for 3g with Bell that maybe that would explain it too.
I got one of first batch of Rogers and it certainly was locked
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I stand somewhat corrected but Virgin/Bell
Rogers/Fido have often worked despite being locked because they operate on same network. thought maybe since Telus shares infrastructure for 3g with Bell that maybe that would explain it too.
I got one of first batch of Rogers and it certainly was locked
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Ya doesnt really seem to be a patterm to it, just some lucked out. Some didnt.
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Sword Fish said:
Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
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Yeah I agree with you. I'd like to find a way to check the lock status as well as i don't have another micro sim card either and that code doesnt work for me.)
Anyone else?
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Would like to know as well. Just got my Note 2 but I travel a lol. FYI if you travel a lot, look into a company called roam for US sim.
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Darn it, just paid $24.99 before checking!
No working code for the Canadian Note 2? I'm really considering picking up one from TELUS, but I would want/need to unlock it for all of my US work travel.
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Would like to know as well. Just got my Note 2 but I travel a lol. FYI if you travel a lot, look into a company called roam for US sim.
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Looked them up. I think T-Mobile prepaid is still a better deal. $3/day for unlimited everything, and the first 200 MB/day at 4G (42 Mbps HSPA+) but still unlimited after that only at 2G speeds. Roam would be $4.95 for similar service (not unlimited data either, only 100 MB per day). The only bonus is if you SMS back to Canada a lot, as that seems free/included. Looking at their coverage map, it looks identical to T-Mobile, and given the max of 42 Mbps, I'd wager they are really just an MVNO on top of T-Mo to begin with. Personal preference, but I think you might as well go right to T-Mo instead.
I picked up a Bell Note II on a hardware upgrade in Vancouver on Monday. All Bell stores were sold out of the first batch but I managed to get one from The Source. Mine was definitely locked, both a British and Spanish SIM I use for travel gave an unauthorized SIM message. Bought an unlock code last night and now all is good.
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No working code for the Canadian Note 2? I'm really considering picking up one from TELUS, but I would want/need to unlock it for all of my US work travel.
Looked them up. I think T-Mobile prepaid is still a better deal. $3/day for unlimited everything, and the first 200 MB/day at 4G (42 Mbps HSPA+) but still unlimited after that only at 2G speeds. Roam would be $4.95 for similar service (not unlimited data either, only 100 MB per day). The only bonus is if you SMS back to Canada a lot, as that seems free/included. Looking at their coverage map, it looks identical to T-Mobile, and given the max of 42 Mbps, I'd wager they are really just an MVNO on top of T-Mo to begin with. Personal preference, but I think you might as well go right to T-Mo instead.
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I did unlock my phone with an unlock code from 1 of the online providers. So that Avenue does work for unlocking it. I was recently in Florida using a T mobile sim card on the prepaid. A word of warning the thing will work on edge data speeds but does not work on the 4g network there. There are very few 4g cell towers on the T Mobile network in the US that are compatible with Rogers phones. They work on a different frequency. The LTE bands would work in theory, however they have not yet been activated on the T Mobile network in the US.
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Hi im getting the Htc One and iwas wondering if anybody knows if the verizon variant comes Sim unlocked as the other verizon Phones (xt912,Lg,etc.)
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I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'm pretty sure all new Verizon LTE phones are unlocked because that was an agreement made with the FCC during the 700MHz spectrum auction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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you are correct
I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
xene97 said:
I called Verizon twice about this very thing since I'm about to go overseas. Both times they assured me that the SIM card was unlocked. Going to take my old phone just in case....
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I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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I don't think the Sim card is unlocked... Its the phone itself. You'd need to get a Sim over where you are going.
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Apologies. I meant that the SIM card slot was carrier unlocked, not the SIM card itself. Naturally you would have to purchase a SIM at the destination.
So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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So does anyone know fir certain if it is GSM unlocked?
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yes it is...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ocked-vs-unlocked-phones-ask-maggie-explains/
Verizon 4G LTE devices are unlocked out of the box
One thing to note here in terms of software phone locks is that all Verizon 4G LTE smartphones come unlocked out of the box. The reason why is that the spectrum Verizon is using to build its 4G LTE network had restrictions put on it by the Federal Communications Commission, which required the company to allow "open access" to the network. So as part of this provision, Verizon has decided not to lock those devices. That said, its 3G devices are locked.
So what does this mean for the average consumer? Let's take the iPhone 5 as an example. It's a 4G LTE device. A Verizon version of this phone comes unlocked out of the box. There aren't special codes that need to be entered in order to use it on another carrier's network. But because of the spectrum differences I mentioned above, a Verizon iPhone 5 won't operate on AT&T's LTE network. It will operate on AT&T's 3G network, which is based on GSM. So this means you can use the Verizon iPhone on AT&T, but you won't get the fastest Internet speeds on it.
The same is true if you take the Verizon iPhone 5 to Europe. You can swap out the SIM card and put in another carrier's SIM card, but the device will operate only on a GSM-based 3G network. And it won't operate on a faster LTE network.
And even though the phone is unlocked and uses the same CDMA technology and some of the same radio frequency channels as Sprint, an unlocked iPhone 5 won't operate on Sprint.
Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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It seems as though your grasp of the subject is strong enough to know that it might work as you'd like - and it might not. You need to call back and ask to speak to a CSR that actually knows what bands their service works on so they can give you accurate information. That's kind of their job...
Also -
Verizon LTE operates on Band 13 while T-Mob operates on Band 17, both of which carry completely different spectrums; this means no LTE on either of your unlocked phones.There's a slim possibility that you will get intermittent 3G but the most likely scenario is that you will get talk, text and 2G / 2.5G only.
Band 17? My Verizon branded S4 is getting T-Mobile LTE. I'm fairly sure its on band 4.
T-mobile is band 4 which is 1700/2100 mhz. The Verizon s4 is not capable of 1700mhz. But if you are getting 4G it may be because your area is using 2100 mhz. I am specifically moving to iwireless and I was told they use the 1700 mhz band.
Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) can receive LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) supports LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
I just need to get some clarification from you guys. Are your VZW phones bought in the US and being in the US on t-mobile's or iwireless's 4g network. Because after I made the first post I went to the phone unlocking place in my local mall and talked to there techs, they said that the VZW S4 will not get 4g. I have also been doing extensive searches online and keep finding half saying it will work and half saying it won't. I have a feeling that the ones that work are working outside of the US as I found posts saying as such.
I read some where that the razr you had to flash the radio FW to get GSM to work properly.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I'll have to go to iwireless and have one of the tech put a SIM card in my s4 and razr to give it a try.
The only options I have for the network mode on my s4 is
Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS. Can you post you settings?
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I was just at iwireless today and tested my phone with their network and was unable to get it to work. iwireless is a t-mobile affiliate but they do not use 4G LTE in my area. Their system runs on a 3.8G 1700MHz which the VZW S4 does not have. I am told that they will be starting to switch all the 2G radios in the area to 4G LTE later this year, which should work with my VZW S4. So I am just going to have to wait till the end of the year and go back and test it again.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
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That phone was before VZW bought the band 4 spectrum and cut the deal with the FCC. All VZW LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Any AWS capable VZW phone is SIM unlocked and can use LTE on band 4. The S4 got it with an update last year.
I am probably going to do the $30 plan soon and plan to use my VZW S4. I am not going to port my number right away in case the service in my area sucks (doubtful, live in DFW in dense surburbia).
I went out off town this weekend and went to a t-mobile store and was able to get 4g service after adding the correct APN. But it is too bad that iwireless that is in my area does not use that band yet, they are staring to upgrade to that band later this year. Until then my s4 will only get edge service.
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I was able to get H+ on my s4 from Verizon to tmobile by changing the network mode to global and the App to fast.T-mobile.com
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With the announcement of the T Mobile $100 2 line unlimited everything, I'm also interested in bringing my Verizon S4 MDK boot loader phone to T Mobile, but want to do my research first-- is it as simple as signing up for T Mobile and getting one of their SIMs and then-- would I be able to flash any of the ROMs in the S4 T Mobile Dev forum or is the T Mobile S4 a completely different device? Any caveats? Would I have to LokiDoki after the flash? Would I need to flash a T Mobile specific radio too (currently on i545vrufnk1)? Or is that all just overcomplicating things? Would i be able to just adjust the APNs on my current ROM after inserting a T Mobile SIM?
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Quick reply to my post and for anyone else interested-- there's a post here that talks about using a 4.4.2 T-Mobile ROM by Fenny on the a Verizon S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57453019 I've tried it and LTE works great, MMS works properly, phone calls work as well. I'm on the Verizon i545vruamdk bootloader and Verizon i545vrufnk1 radio. The ROM is a T-Mobile m919uvufnb4 by Fenny.
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So I was talking to a Samsung rep at a Best Buy and she told me they may release a Developers Edition of the Note 4. I Googled it and see confirmation that there will be a Developers edition and that it will be sold through Verizon but not subsidized to any carrier. It should be released mid-November and cost around $660.00 Full Price.
That being said, does anyone plan to get the Dev Edition in order to Root/ROM? I am still rocking my Galaxy S3 but may end up going with the Note 4 so long as it has full Root/ROM.
I already have a note 4 but i might...Is it going to be able to use AT&T's 4G LTE? or only H+?
It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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It seems that it's going to be a Verizon exclusive and will stay that way... I guess that it could be unlocked but Verizon phones have no simcard right? So I assume it would never work with AT&T
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Verizon uses sim cards now too. They use it for their 4g. If a verizon phone is unlocked it can be used on AT&T but usually only with H+. I just didn't know if there was a different case with this one. Why is verizon getting all of the good phones? Droid turbo and now this?
I'll probably wait until it does release to see if its compatible with AT&T but I definitely require it to be LTE and not just H+. Hopefully it is a fully unlocked device with all of the bands needed to work with AT&T.
If that's true I might even sell mine to get it
It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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It's for Verizon only. They use a different LTE it's CDMA based so will be no help for ATT users. If you want to get one for ATT you need to have everyone blowing up their twitter Facebook etc to get one released.
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Just maybe like verizon's previous iphones that worked on att and tmobile just fine. But still doesnt make sense a developer version just for verizon, we know most developers are on gsm, jk