I'm a graduate student, and as a result I do a lot of pdf reading on my phone. When I first got the phone, I thought the screen looked amazing....a day later I think amazing doesn't even describe it.
A lot of the reviewers constantly state they are disappointed by the resolution. As a matter of principle, it is disappointing that samsung did not up the resolution....but in reality maybe samsung just realized there was not need to..and more functionality comes from this resolution (in terms of apps) and the trade off was not worth it.
I decided to run a side by side test of my epc touch and my evo 3d. I loaded several stem cell papers in the form of pdfs (us stem cell researchers love put pictures in our pdfs). Here is the breakdown.
PDF zoomed completely out, so that it displays the whole page: Winner, Evo 3d. The text is not blurry, but is slight on the epic touch. No one is going to read at this level of zoom....its too small.
Mid level zoom: Winner is epic touch. Both have real clear text, but the contrast on the touch wins out. One nice thing about the touch is, no matter what your brightness, the text looks great...which is nice. One can turn down the brightness, still have well defined text, and avoid eye fatigue.
100% Zoom: Winner again is epic touch. The 3d may have a better resolution, but I am not seeing the gain here. The contrast on the epic really makes for some percise text. The super amloed + screen really signs.
Amont of text on the screen: Wiiner 3d
Quality and readability of text: Epic touch
Quality of pictures and graphs: detail is everything (if you are like me and looking at pictures of flourescent cells in culture, the smallest detial matter). Winner, by far and wide is the epic touch 4g. Let's just put it this way...the detail on the epic touch screen is preferable over ink and paper.
That is my take on the screen. Honestly I don't know where the reviewers get the idea that the text looks pixelated. It just looks bigger....but in no way is it more pixelated than the other phones on the market.
Oh well, that is everything. I am off now. Being a graduate student has its perks....such as having season tickets to the football games.
CHEER CHEER THE FIGHTSING IRISH OF NOTRE DAME!!!
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Thanks for the insight. I was getting a little scared after reading the reviews, even then they weren't that bad.
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Excellent review BlueGoldAce, I feel the same way.
I am just bumping this one time.
I feel it is useful for someone debating whether to get this or not (the more people we have the better).
Also, I typed this whole review on my epic touch, using the hp touchpad keyboard. The touchpad keyboard pairs flawlessly with the touch!
Thank you, I feel the resolution gets some negative reviews but i think you really have to be picky to have a problem with it.
I have tv projector that uses 480x800 and eliminating the pixelation comes down to the type of screen you use and the focus. Its called screen door effect, basically if you do it right it can still look nice and it sounds like samsung did a great job.
not being a schmuck.. just thought it was funny.. the misspelling of "detial".. in the context..
I agree with you about the screen as well.. and if people harass me about the screen res.. I'll just say.. "lets do a side by side with yours" ...... the sad fact is I am the only person I know that would even have a clue on the screen res of a cell phone.
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not being a schmuck.. just thought it was funny.. the misspelling of "detial".. in the context..
I agree with you about the screen as well.. and if people harass me about the screen res.. I'll just say.. "lets do a side by side with yours" ...... the sad fact is I am the only person I know that would even have a clue on the screen res of a cell phone.
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Lol same here
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This just makes me wonder how ICS will look on this phone.
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This just makes me wonder how ICS will look on this phone.
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What do you mean?
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I mean the display resolution..
It will be on par with all currently available phones.
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No complaints here! I agree with your assessment.
Did your PDFs have a white background? how did the white compare on the two? My ET's screen has a blue tint when showing white compared to other devices
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Did your PDFs have a white background? how did the white compare on the two? My ET's screen has a blue tint when showing white compared to other devices
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if you change the color of the screen in the settings that should be fixed
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if you change the color of the screen in the settings that should be fixed
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Yep. The whites are not as white, but screen adjustments can fix that. That is just the nature of this screen tec so far.
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The only thing putting me off the note 2 is the smaller screen resolution. I can imagine apps like the samsung calendar must be less usable. Also I find 800 pixels is a dream resolution for viewing internet pages.
For those that switched from the note 1 how are you finding it?
Is the less dpi really that noticeable? I'm actually very excited about the new aspect ratio as I watch a lot of movies on my phone
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Finally a thread like this
It's really annoying in some situations but then you launch a video and your stunned.
You browse, somehow less good, it's quite noticeable when you had Note 1 but then the screen is so much better in ALL other aspects.
Then you get no problems with app compatibility due to the more standard resolution. You see more webapps and games thought for 720p.
So wrapping up, I guess I'll get use to it and with all the other goodies on Note 2 it's worth the upgrade: amazing batterie life (doubled), screen colour and brightness, speed and great sound.
I'll keep the nostalgy of the original Note owner though :<
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Isn't the one lesser column of icons also the result of less horizontal pixel? Yes I agree the screen is much better, but I don't suppose it's just for web viewing. There are the utilitarian point of view to this. I would imagine people who used to have certain amount of icons on a single page and then suddenl reduce would feel negatively. It's like taking a feature out. I am coming from an Epic 4G so I got no bone to pick on this just voicing another valid PoV that some people didn't see.
Sometimes I'll do something and my brain will go, 'that looks a bit odd', because I remembered how it was before.
But you'll get over it. The Note 2 is THAT much better.
- Frank
So I read through the other thread that talked about VR, but it's dead. So I'm posting a new one to see who's currently doing this, if anyone at all.
Are any of you using the Z5 Premium to watch movies through VR? I've never ventured into VR territory but the Z5P keeps luring me in. I don't care about gaming, and I don't care about 3D. What I'm really looking for is a way to block out the rest of the world and watch a movie. It can even just be pitch black around the movie (I guess that's called Void cinema in the world of Oculus?).
There's got to be one of you out there.
I used it twice with a plastic, adjustable and good quality cardboard a coworker bought and it was very cool, as the screen is ver big, it filled the space of the cardboard. I tested some games but for movies I guess it would be cool to. In fact, Im planning to buy one soon. I recommend it
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So I read through the other thread that talked about VR, but it's dead. So I'm posting a new one to see who's currently doing this, if anyone at all.
Are any of you using the Z5 Premium to watch movies through VR? I've never ventured into VR territory but the Z5P keeps luring me in. I don't care about gaming, and I don't care about 3D. What I'm really looking for is a way to block out the rest of the world and watch a movie. It can even just be pitch black around the movie (I guess that's called Void cinema in the world of Oculus?).
There's got to be one of you out there.
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I've post my experience with watching 3D movies using VRTube on another post + pics perhaps you've seen it. Also, Sony's image enhancements works with VRTube which is great, too bad Sony sound effects do not, i suggest using viper4android for sound enhancements. Also VRTube is pitch black around the screen so it'll be perfect for you. I use sony's bluetooth headphones for a complete wireless experience. I can tell you that the picture is superb, no screen door effect from pixels. I use the colorcross headset since that works best for movies imo. I haven't found a headset with a clearer lens than colorcross although i stop buying headsets a year ago since I've wasted so much money on them, (trial and error).
I've been watching 3D movies on mobile for about 2 years now using this setup, the previous phone i had was the LG G3 (2k screen) which wasn't bad but still has the screen door effect. After upgrading to xz5p my vr experience got better so yes i'd say it was worth it.
I forgot to mention i use a bluetooth remote with a mouse cursor mode, you can get one for cheap on Amazon unless you want to keep taking out your phone to make adjustments.
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I've post my experience with watching 3D movies using VRTube on another post + pics perhaps you've seen it. Also, Sony's image enhancements works with VRTube which is great, too bad Sony sound effects do not, i suggest using viper4android for sound enhancements. Also VRTube is pitch black around the screen so it'll be perfect for you. I use sony's bluetooth headphones for a complete wireless experience. I can tell you that the picture is superb, no screen door effect from pixels. I use the colorcross headset since that works best for movies imo. I haven't found a headset with a clearer lens than colorcross although i stop buying headsets a year ago since I've wasted so much money on them, (trial and error).
I've been watching 3D movies on mobile for about 2 years now using this setup, the previous phone i had was the LG G3 (2k screen) which wasn't bad but still has the screen door effect. After upgrading to xz5p my vr experience got better so yes i'd say it was worth it.
I forgot to mention i use a bluetooth remote with a mouse cursor mode, you can get one for cheap on Amazon unless you want to keep taking out your phone to make adjustments.
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Have you used the Bobovr Z4? I've read that a lot of people like that unit. The VRTube app you're speaking of is the one by IdeaMatters (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ideamats.vrtubefull)? The one that looks like it still has Gingerbread interface?
You can get through an entire move no problem without it overheating or anything like that? What do you look for resolution-wise when you're sourcing your movies to watch? Sorry for so many questions, I'm completely clueless when it comes to VR.
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Have you used the Bobovr Z4? I've read that a lot of people like that unit. The VRTube app you're speaking of is the one by IdeaMatters (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ideamats.vrtubefull)? The one that looks like it still has Gingerbread interface?
You can get through an entire move no problem without it overheating or anything like that? What do you look for resolution-wise when you're sourcing your movies to watch? Sorry for so many questions, I'm completely clueless when it comes to VR.
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Yea that's the one. The phone gets warm no overheating, I lose about 20%/h watching movies, All the movies i have are all BlueRay quality in its highest resolution, The movie file can take up 10-20gb each..
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Yea that's the one. The phone gets warm no overheating, I lose about 20%/h watching movies, All the movies i have are all BlueRay quality in its highest resolution, The movie file can take up 10-20gb each..
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That doesn't say much. So I'm guessing you're sourcing BluRay 4K rips at 3840x2160, ya? So I'm just trying to educate myself, but that would mean when you watch it in your VR headset you're effectively getting 1920x1080 to each eye and watching the film in FHD?
No the full video resolution is usually 1920x1080p so each eye would be getting 960 x 1080
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No the full video resolution is usually 1920x1080p so each eye would be getting 960 x 1080
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But I'm guessing that's still plenty clear and enjoyable due to the lack of SDE?
Yup.
So I just got my Z5P yesterday, but first time playing with it tonight. Do I need to force 4k through ADB or anything like that to get the best VR experience?
No. Android automatically plays back video (anything using SurfaceView which is just a buffered view) at full resolution.
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If that's the case, than what's going on here (2k vs 4k resolution)? Am I able to make the VR screen larger but in essence the video played within it is the same resolution for both?
Then it'll better be 4k Blu-ray video with 20 more gigabytes
And the device will get slower during the time (it says cannot play video) you need to restart
Am I the only one who thinks that whoever decided to revert to 16:10 for Samsung's tablets should hang by his/her/xer tongue?!!! Who was the idiot? Did the S2 and S3 not sell well enough? So let's break it down: 16:10 is useless in portrait mode. The only thing this might (might(!)) be good for would be media consumption, specifically movie watching. Why provide the S-pen then? Is this solely a media consumption device? Or is this a productivity tablet? Pen says it's a productivity tablet. 16:10 format says media only. Clearly Samsung doesn't know what it wants, so it decided to screw up both--I mean, who in his right mind would pay upward of $650 to just watch movies (and little else)?
Why, Samsung, why?
Wanna watch movies on Android? There are plenty tablets out there for much less than half of this. No need for fancy pen-compatible screens to watch movies. And why would one need top-notch Dolby quad speakers to watch movies on the train (or on the toilet)?! You want to watch movies in style? Get a man cave, with 150" OLED screens with subwoofers, tweeters, and all that jazz! What loser buys tablets to do professional movie watching? Non-professional movie watching can be done very well on a 4:3 tablet: you don't need a 16:10 screen to watch movies on a plane, or YouTube cat videos!
Well, I'm in the other camp, and basically ask "Why oh Why in The Wide Wide World of Sports" does someone want a 4:3 tablet? If you want something the same aspect ratio as your computer monitor... Then Use Your Computer Monitor!!!
To me, the first and foremost reason for a tablet is ... Portability.
To accomplish that we want lightweight, thin, and NOT cumbersome. They need to be easily handled as they are constantly picked up, put down, held in one hand, etc etc.
The 16:10 aspect ratio is easier for that. It's easier to set on the edge of a table, it's easier to (as you say) be a media consumption device. I don't think they are meant to be your 'do everything' computer, that's why we have laptops, desktops, mobile phones, etc.
They are a niche product, yes, to be used sitting on the couch, lawn chair, etc. Where you don't put them down (when using) but hold they device. The 4:3 format is just unwieldy in that regard. And besides, the interface isn't usually a browser, it's an app, which are much more 16:10.
If you want something for productivity, get a laptop, that's what they're for.
I don't think 16:10 has much to do with practicality as its lower surface area than 4:3. Lower surface area means less OLED panel, less wacom digitizer, and thus lower costs for competing with the larger 4:3 ipad pro 10.5 in the marketing department.
The fact that the Tab S4 has 16:10 format is the only reason I consider buying a new tablet from Samsung. I still use my Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and I like it but it's getting a bit old and the battery has been better. I never considered the S2 or S3 due to it's awful screen format. A tablet for me is 99% for watching videos, so what I want is a great screen (oled) and widescreen format. If I need a portable device to be productive, I'll use my laptop. But that has nothing to do with the screen format anyway, since nearly all computer screens today are 16:10 or 16:9 aswell.
I do mostly watch movies at home of course, on my oled tv and surround sound system, but when I travel I still want a nice oled screen with the right format to carry with me to get the most out of whatever I watch on the go also. I prefer not to use a crappy 4:3 or LCD-screen for that.
And what was said about losers buying tablets to watch movies could also be said about productive work I guess (what losers use a tablet to do professional work?)
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And what was said about losers buying tablets to watch movies could also be said about productive work I guess (what losers use a tablet to do professional work?)
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Totally agree. There's no need to be insulting just because you disagree. Discussing the pro's and con's is the way to go. Thinking you're going to influence mfg's by slinging insults... well, those that do that will get it right back, or just ignored for immaturity.
I have a Galaxy Tab Pro 8" model, and love the screen. Sadly the device was buggy like all androids of that age and slowed down, due to programing and lack of memory/storage space. I enjoyed the 16:10 format it had.
Fast forward to 2015 I got a S2 8" model. While I disagreed with the screen display change to 4:3 and reducing the resolution it worked out well overall and have been happy with the device for the past 3 years. Its getting older and wanting something a little snappier a hence why I'm looking at the S4.
That said the screen size change back to the 16:10 format for the S4 is because it reduced the bezels on the top/bottom. With that they could lengthen the screen and still pack the larger battery in the device, as well they increase the screen resolution because its longer. Personally screen ratio doesn't bother me as much as how does the device function, it could have a 4:3 or 16:10 and still I'd be potentially looking at it. Really can't wait to see one in person hopefully next week.
graphic designer here. appreciate the 16:10 choice -- my main display is a 34" ultrawide, and i appreciate the extra real estate. was a big fan of the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 as well, so i'm happy Samsung ditched 4:3.
I still had my original Tab S 8.4, had some iPad and minis, and I still prefer 16:10.
Let's keep things friendly in here.
I returned my S3 the other day because of the 4:3. I didn't research but also wouldn't have ever thought there would be a 4:3 display. So I ordered the S4 and am picking it up today.
I just picked a S4 up to replace my S3. I am very happy they got away from 4:3. It is however a perssonal preferencr for every one. Most computers are 16:9 so the 16:10 is better for me.
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Am I the only one who thinks that whoever decided to revert to 16:10 for Samsung's tablets should hang by his/her/xer tongue?!!! Who was the idiot? Did the S2 and S3 not sell well enough? So let's break it down: 16:10 is useless in portrait mode. The only thing this might (might(!)) be good for would be media consumption, specifically movie watching. Why provide the S-pen then? Is this solely a media consumption device? Or is this a productivity tablet? Pen says it's a productivity tablet. 16:10 format says media only. Clearly Samsung doesn't know what it wants, so it decided to screw up both--I mean, who in his right mind would pay upward of $650 to just watch movies (and little else)?
Why, Samsung, why?
Wanna watch movies on Android? There are plenty tablets out there for much less than half of this. No need for fancy pen-compatible screens to watch movies. And why would one need top-notch Dolby quad speakers to watch movies on the train (or on the toilet)?! You want to watch movies in style? Get a man cave, with 150" OLED screens with subwoofers, tweeters, and all that jazz! What loser buys tablets to do professional movie watching? Non-professional movie watching can be done very well on a 4:3 tablet: you don't need a 16:10 screen to watch movies on a plane, or YouTube cat videos!
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Look at EVERY book you see at the store, comics too, they're closer to 16:9/16:10 aspect ratio than 4:3 or 3:2. Same with TV and Movies. Most websites are catered for Smartphones which opt for the elongated aspect ratio over the squat 4:3 one.
4:3 is good for PDFs and digitized textbooks/informational books like DIY books, great for retro games/emulation
3:2 is great for note taking and a bit better at displaying PDFs since it's closer to 8.5x11 inch paper that the US uses and A4 that other places use.
16:9/16:10 great for comics, novels, movies, games and websites.
Either way, the beauty of OLED is that it's amazing at displaying the aspect ratio you want and hiding the cut off bit since it doesn't require backlighting so you don't get those annoying grey (trying to be black) bars on things. Also none of that weird LCD dim screen shimmer issue.
Though, my Note Pro 12.2 (yes that old tablet) is approximately the same size as the margins of loose leaf ruled paper. Which made note taking on it a dream. I still use it for that reason alone. Also because that version of S Note is one of the best versions ever. I'm not a fan of Samsung Note. And I like that size for drawing too. Though their 4 sub-pixel screen really messes with color accuracy and causes pastel colors to look terrible due to that added white sub-pixel.
Got to say the 16:10 ratio on the screen while some complain about it, really works incredibly well for DeX mode.
Actually I don't think I've had my tablet out of DeX mode since I turned it on! I just like the function of it considerably more considering the screen size at least for me its worked out very well.
For me, 16:10 is a mistake. Love the 4:3 on my Tab S2 8" and can't imagine you could every hold a 10" 16:10 for anything more than a few minutes especially in portrait mode.
Each to there own I guess.
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For me, 16:10 is a mistake. Love the 4:3 on my Tab S2 8" and can't imagine you could every hold a 10" 16:10 for anything more than a few minutes especially in portrait mode.
Each to there own I guess.
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That's funny, in that portrait mode is the easiest way to hold a 16:10 tablet. Yes, the bezel does need to be wide enough to put your fingers underneath and a thumb on top, but most tablet makers realize this and make the bezels wide enough.
This is of course with one hand. With 2 hands any of the tablet sizes can be held comfortably. But with one hand, it's more awkward with 4:3 than 16:10 (in portrait mode).
Yes, ea to their own, no doubt there. But holding something, a rectangular shape is easier and takes less leverage, than something that is virtually square. That's not really opinion, that's a bio mechanical fact.
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But holding something, a rectangular shape is easier and takes less leverage, than something that is virtually square. That's not really opinion, that's a bio mechanical fact.
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I have to disagree with you here AsItLies;77335736. With both 16:10 and 4:3, our tablets are too big to get our hands totally around the device, and therefore we end up having to hold them essentially in the bottom corner, if we chose to hold one handed.
With a 4:3, the centre of gravity is closer to the holding hand than it is on a 16:10. That means the a 16:10 tablet puts more stress on the holding hand, even if the weights of the tablets are identical, as the lever arm is more. The structural engineer sat beside me confirms this.
If you go back to the days of 7" tablets, you would be correct as the your hand could get right around a 7" 16:9 tablet, (like the Nexus 7 2013,) but maybe not a similar 4:3 tablet.
Samsung gets a lot of criticism for the small battery on the Tab S2 8", but for me, its the best of both worlds as its unbelievably light and website don't feel cramped or cut off.
Like I said, each to there own.
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I have to disagree with you here AsItLies;77335736. With both 16:10 and 4:3, our tablets are too big to get our hands totally around the device, and therefore we end up having to hold them essentially in the bottom corner, if we chose to hold one handed.
With a 4:3, the centre of gravity is closer to the holding hand than it is on a 16:10. That means the a 16:10 tablet puts more stress on the holding hand, even if the weights of the tablets are identical, as the lever arm is more. The structural engineer sat beside me confirms this.
If you go back to the days of 7" tablets, you would be correct as the your hand could get right around a 7" 16:9 tablet, (like the Nexus 7 2013,) but maybe not a similar 4:3 tablet.
Samsung gets a lot of criticism for the small battery on the Tab S2 8", but for me, its the best of both worlds as its unbelievably light and website don't feel cramped or cut off.
Like I said, each to there own.
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See, here's the thing (and I'm glad you describe it clearly), when ** I ** hold a tablet, it's with one hand, in portrait mode, and you are correct, they are (now) too wide to get your hand completely around it like a phone.
So? and that's what I said earlier; The Device Has To Have A Bezel Wide Enough For Your Thumb!
By placing your thumb on the top part of the bezel and fingers underneath (of course not all the way to the other side, too wide), then, as I said, the center of gravity (thus the weight and difficulty to hold the device) is easier, it's less fatigue, it has to be as it's less cumbersome. and unwieldy.
So no, it's not really 'ea to their own', it's simple bio mechanics. If you don't mind it being heavier to hold that way, and you like 4:3, go for it. But the fact remains, one handed, on the long side, is easier with 16:10 (again! as long as the mfg has enough sense to include a wide enough bezel - I returned a huawei mediapad m5 for just that oversight by the mfg... no bezel at all, big mistake on a tablet - although perfect for a phone - narrower, one hand goes all the way around).
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See, here's the thing (and I'm glad you describe it clearly), when ** I ** hold a tablet, it's with one hand, in portrait mode, and you are correct, they are (now) too wide to get your hand completely around it like a phone.
So? and that's what I said earlier; The Device Has To Have A Bezel Wide Enough For Your Thumb!
By placing your thumb on the top part of the bezel and fingers underneath (of course not all the way to the other side, too wide), then, as I said, the center of gravity (thus the weight and difficulty to hold the device) is easier, it's less fatigue, it has to be as it's less cumbersome. and unwieldy.
So no, it's not really 'ea to their own', it's simple bio mechanics. If you don't mind it being heavier to hold that way, and you like 4:3, go for it. But the fact remains, one handed, on the long side, is easier with 16:10 (again! as long as the mfg has enough sense to include a wide enough bezel - I returned a huawei mediapad m5 for just that oversight by the mfg... no bezel at all, big mistake on a tablet - although perfect for a phone - narrower, one hand goes all the way around).
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Ok I'm getting you now. If you are holding in Portrait, the 4:3 has its centroid nearest your hand. What you describe though by saying holding it along its long side, is landscape, which means the centroid is nearest your hand on the 16:10 tablet.
So it's each to there own with respect to tablet ratio and if they use it in Landscape or Portrait. Agreed that bezel size is vital though. :highfive:
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Ok I'm getting you now. If you are holding in Portrait, the 4:3 has its centroid nearest your hand. What you describe though by saying holding it along its long side, is landscape, which means the centroid is nearest your hand on the 16:10 tablet.
So it's each to there own with respect to tablet ratio and if they use it in Landscape or Portrait. Agreed that bezel size is vital though. :highfive:
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It's kind of funny Really, and I guess many would say tedious also, but hey, to make things clear sometimes this is what u need to do!
To make the point again, I'm not holding it with one hand on the long side with it in landscape mode, that would mean having your hand ** underneath ** the device.
I'm referring to holding it in portrait mode ** with your one hand on the side ** ... not on the bottom underneath. So it's portrait, not landscape
And when I pick it up and carry it, hand stays in much the same place, just screen off and pinch both sides, easily done with one hand. But that's really not the case with 4:3, as it's like a ** box **. There's really no side to carry it with 1 hand, or hold with 1.
Yes, it's individual, no doubt. But factually speaking, the 16:9 is easier to use and carry around. As with everything, one has to decide what's important to them.
Cheers, glad we clarified it with only having to write 1 chapter of a book, it could have been worse!
I just got my Verizon S4 and I'm loving everything about it. It is so much easier to type in, handle, carry than my S3. I love this aspect ratio. It way better for reading and running apps on portrait and watching videos on landscape. The thin bezels and lack of physical buttons is great. Also performance is top notch.
The only reason I haven't upgraded from Tab S 8.4 to Tab 2 or 3 was aspect ratio. I'm glad they switched back to wide-screen. Can't wait for mine to arrive.