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The Marketplace section of XDA has been only open for a short time. There are currently 8 potential users in our community who have been ripped off and may not be capable of receiving their payments back and/or punishing the people that scammed them. There also exist a number of buyers that await their devices to be received but the sellers have not contacted them.
There are several benefits of selling on XDA and there are many drawbacks. Please let me remind you that this is a developers (or those interested in the processes, aka users like me) forum. Please take the time to reflect the benefits and the drawbacks and vote.
I know the poll results will lean towards keeping the Marketplace open because those who visit this section on a regular would want to keep using it as a resource. Yet there are many on this site that still do not have any idea that this marketplace exist, simply because they bookmark their device's section.
Please vote after reading the Fraud Thread,Thank You.
If you have new guidelines that will help deter criminals from scamming our members please post. Please note, your suggestions may be criticized.
My vote to third option. I dont believe in throwing the baby with the bath water. Everything faces problem in the beginning, so is this marketplace. Let's make it a better place.
Just because the Marketplace isn't open doesn't mean XDA won't be used for transactions between users. With the Marketplace, the transactions are more public and I bet that being open and public actually cuts down on scams.
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Just because the Marketplace isn't open doesn't mean XDA won't be used for transactions between users. With the Marketplace, the transactions are more public and I bet that being open and public actually cuts down on scams.
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I completely agree with your opinion. What do you think about banning device sale transactions altogether?
Just like XDA bans warez but obviously users can PM each other regarding warez.
I would think that there is a way to keep the market section open, yet make it safer. I don't think it is XDA's responsibility to make sure every transaction is 100% safe, not even eBay can do that. I don't even think it is responsible to go above and beyond "buyer/seller beware". But I know this communitty and to simply leave it at "stock" isn't an option.
It has proven true that it is hard to identify a good scammer. Post counts, length of membership, and so forth have all proven indicators of trustworthiness, but not a guarantee. And while a guarantee surely isn't possible in reality, I know it is always the goal of those in this communitty to get it right and as close to perfect as possible.
I am currently trying to sell a couple phones, and half my worry is that people have enough trust and faith in me to feel comfortable buying from me. The other half is that I find a legit buyer. I can't even image being the actual buyer!
I feel that stricter guidelines and oversight will go a long way, although likely more time consuming as well. Perhaps making it so new listings have to get approved? And setting criteria for approval asking for photographic proof that the item exists? As well, maybe create an XDA paypal account, where the buyer pays XDA, and upon shipping confirmation/ receipt confirmation the funds are then transfered to the seller? This would put a lot of liability on XDA, which might not be plausable.
Ultimately, buyer and seller beware is and always will be the most important rule.
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Although opening the market place means that many problems exist,which is seller make slow response to buying,I may strengthen to monitor.Opening the market place may improve the dynamic of the forum.
If you want to savvy more information about mobile phone, please come to [scamlink]
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And you give a link to a Kirf phone site... shakes head... maybe we can also look into strengthening membership requirements/ process?
XDA can't take guarantee for anything that happens in marketplace, that is something ebay doesn't take inspite of such a heavy fee amount they charge. I feel xda is the best way to share things like pocket pc phones in like minded people to get the get value for both buyer & seller. It would be there no matter you have the marketplace or not. Marketplace has provided outlet to all such dealings.
We can ponder over how to make it more secure, but giving marketplace an existential threat is not I am in agreement with.
Marketplace open!!
As I said before,
All transactions between particulars on the WWW have some risk.
If you are not willing to take that risk please do not use marketplace and go and buy to a regular store!
You should be aware that if you want to buy cheap there is always a risk!
Let´s continue with marketplace!!
I noticed that some other sites require you to have a certain post count before posting/viewing the market place. This could cut the scammers out as it would require them to first be active in the community before being able to post.
Keep the market place.. I have used it for purchasing more than 1 phone, and lucky for me, my experiance here has been fantastic... I think people should pay for their transactions using a credit card... even with PayPal.. You can pay with credit card there.. That way if you are scammed and do no receive what you payed for, open up a dispute with both your credit card company as well as paypal.. evne if paypal can not "collect" anything, you credit card can cancel the transaction all together and take the money from paypal... (which will, in turn, make them want to look for the money a little harder, and even possibley bring up legal action againt the fraud monger!) In closing, KEEP THE MARKET PLACE...
I totally agree with 'Teej53214' and have voted for option 1.
I don't see why XDA should shoulder any responsibilty, nor have to police the marketplace,
since with all online dealing it is the buyers responsibility, not XDA's, to take adequate steps to protect himself.
as such, using a credit card is far the best way.
Yes, but at what point? A spammer will get a couple hundred posts in a few minutes, where as a legit member might not in a couple years.
As well, one of the most infamous scams thus far was carried out by a member with over 1000 posts, and 2 years of community involvement.
I noticed that some other sites require you to have a certain post count before posting/viewing the market place. This could cut the scammers out as it would require them to first be active in the community before being able to post.
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there already is a post count limit, i.e 30+ Posts, a seller less than post isent allowed to sell, and his thread is deleted
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there already is a post count limit, i.e 30+ Posts, a seller less than post isent allowed to sell, and his thread is deleted
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Can we not delete it? Someone may suggest a new guideline, which could be useful for both seller/buyer
I may be new here, but i feel i'll be around for a while. I feel the Market Place is a great idea for everyone, but some guildlines should be improved for everyoens experience.
I feel that the suggestions (option 3?) would to invoke a Post Count Requirement, but to add to this a review (to enter into the market place) must be made by an admin to make sure all posts to that post count are not spam to scam.
I also feel that the market place should incorporate some kind of market system. I know there's plugins for vBulletin that would allow such a thing, or better yet, force all users to mediate through another site for sales (eBay?). This way we'll know they're scammers...
ie if someone posts a acution on eBay for the sole purpose to sell an item (Buy it now at discolsed price in forum) and they're new user on eBay then more caution flags are thrown up... (Could use many other auction sites, etc).
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Maybe enforce some kind of physical conversation about products as well, phone call, etc?
Just my $.02
Keep it open.
I agree with what has been said. Use Paypal with a Credit card. Ivé have to open a dispute (not here) via Paypal and in the end I just contacted my credit card holder that refunded the payment.
Force users to have X many posts, visits or time from registering+posts before they can post in the marketplace.
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Keep it open.
I agree with what has been said. Use Paypal with a Credit card. Ivé have to open a dispute (not here) via Paypal and in the end I just contacted my credit card holder that refunded the payment.
Force users to have X many posts, visits or time from registering+posts before they can post in the marketplace.
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As Ather stated, there is a 30 post count limit. I do not see it documented anywhere maybe I skipped over it. Anyhow, I am positive there is a vbulletin plugin or add-on that restricts users under a set limit of posts to be capable of accessing the marketplace section.
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As Ather stated, there is a 30 post count limit. I do not see it documented anywhere maybe I skipped over it. Anyhow, I am positive there is a vbulletin plugin or add-on that restricts users under a set limit of posts to be capable of accessing the marketplace section.
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Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
Feel free to add to the list,
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Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
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I would like to repeat my suggestions: I was once really involved at notebookreview and this is how we ran things
1. Require a set form for selling and buying. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=243274
2. Require a picture with proof of ownership. (a photo of the item with a piece of paper containing the username and a dated newspaper)
3. Require feedback sources: Amazon, ebay, heatware.
4. Reference previous sales. (some sort of internal feedback system)
I think this can help make the Marketplace a bit safer to everyone involved.
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Ok, instead of making this thread about something that's not right let's take this wonderful opportunity to make it work.
We are open for suggestions
Who would think being a non-junior member OR being an XDA member for more then one year is appropriate/enough? Remember we are trying to scare the scammers off not everybody
Feel free to add to the list,
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Both of those could be restrictive to real sellers, and not actually scare off scammers.
The spam guys will get a couple hundred posts really quickly. If you toss in a 1 year time limit type thing, then people that are active, like me, wouldn't even be able to sell because I haven't been a member for over a year.
I think we should ask sellers to post at least 5 pics, with their username and a newspaper pictured in one. As well, they need to send their contact info to the section mod. They also need to put a random word picked by the mod and PM to them on the piece of paper with their username on it. Only then would the post actually be made public.
As well, you can ask that they also have shown themself a member of this community, either through length of time here, post count, etc., but subject to the mods descretion.
Lately we have seen many users been scammed over here,, and with the lack of stickies its really difficult to know if the trader was bad or good for scams( had that recently where a member had scammed another member, and then one day he PM'd me asking to trade, but i was aware of it, but others may not be.) no ppl are getting banned who cheat on this forum. We need a mod who has traded before and just for this section, i dont think its hard to have one mod here who can delete threads, ban users who misuse the MP, make stickies on threads which have disputes, he can also act as a middle man if the User's chooses to. if you support me along this road, then please reply so we can have one
I agree. I've done a couple trades both on Hofo and Xda and I feel at times it is really nice to be able to trade, but often worried if the deal will go bad or not. It'd be nice to be able to know if the other person is reputible and if I was talking to another scammer.
It'd be nice to have some sort of system to prevent all the inconsistancy of having shady sellers.
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I agree. I've done a couple trades both on Hofo and Xda and I feel at times it is really nice to be able to trade, but often worried if the deal will go bad or not. It'd be nice to be able to know if the other person is reputible and if I was talking to another scammer.
It'd be nice to have some sort of system to prevent all the inconsistancy of having shady sellers.
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yeah we need it, he could also verify the IP address is not of a scammer or near by.
I agree aswell although I've only done two trades here both of which wer successful there's always a bad apple out there ready to scam some unfortunate person and I personally think we should be doing everything we can to prevent it
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it wont happen, there is no reason for a 3rd party, or a member of xda community to take on that role, and then possibly be at fault.
ie.
why complicate it more than it needs to be.
A feedback system may work, but never a 3rd party.
IMHO.
37 transactions and counting, xda only.
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it would be great ive wanted to offer on sum trades just have been kinda checking things out to see who is legit because we know everyone is not trust worthy
I think a Feedback system will be more helpful than moderators. Having feedback and mod will be even better.
Ya we need feedback, it will make checking someones transaction history very easy.
On my Suzuki Hayabusa forum you must have 50 posts to sell something - this is easily done with a simple vbulletin mod. The mod makes it possible for someone with less than 50 posts to browse and post in a thread in the "for sale" forums, but impossible to start a thread. I know you might think it's easy for someone to signup and post 50 times, but members notice that pretty damn quick - and we ban anyone who tries. We also have iTrader (another vbulletin mod) and once a sale is completed one of my Admins will post and ask the buyer and seller to post feedback.
The fact that people sell $6000+ motorcycles makes it a necessity to police and manage the "for sale" forums to the best of our ability for the protection of my members.
But people also sell $20 items, and we ban ANYONE who scams another member - this includes sponsors.
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But people also sell $20 items, and we ban ANYONE who scams another member - this includes sponsors.
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i deeply agree with this one , there should be zero tolerance , no posting suspension , no infractions , just insta-ban
pinstack.com has a "trust" meter, I've found it very useful at times. Plus this gives a better all-around feel for someone instead of just what's gone on in the marketplace.
http://forums.pinstack.com/trust.php
How about for now, we try and get people to use HeatWare? You can build a rep that's damn hard to fake.
There is always someone willing to take the role and help out.
Furthermore we have a "thanks" system, so I don't see it being too difficult to add some sort of "trust" system as previously mentioned. Though if there is an acceptable volunteer for thread mod, that would be a good idea too.
I also vouch for heatware. Great service and have used it on many forum trades sections.
or post names of scammers until mods start banning them.
TheAndroider
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Plus guys get scammed when they do things in private. Keep as much as possible public and you are safer since everyone reads the posts and someone will know if one of the parties is bogus.
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i suggest rules(vBulletin mod) to be able to use marketplace:
1.over 50 posts
2. member for atleast 6months
in addition to:
1.transparency-every single deal should be public, pm's allowed for chatting etc, but all conditions, offers etc will be sellers&buyers thing to do in their thread(go public if you don't wanna get scammed)
2.bans for people (proved)scamming-hasn't been on xda 1 week from bogus deal, didn't respond buyer's PM's, sent fake/empty product etc
3.more mods assinged to this part of forum-"too good to be true" offers will be removed/reported in short period of time, preventing anyone to reply, and could be reactivated when seller responds to mod's pm and proves he's legit and has item for sale(especially first few sales)
4. whitelist of members who made over 20 deals succsessfully in longer period of time, separate items, with higher value(not sending 20 e.g. batteries at once).
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it wont happen, there is no reason for a 3rd party, or a member of xda community to take on that role, and then possibly be at fault.
ie.
why complicate it more than it needs to be.
A feedback system may work, but never a 3rd party.
IMHO.
37 transactions and counting, xda only.
killster
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Do those 37 count the ones you committed to and then backed out of killster? Seems mlee and i are not the only ones. Not the same as scamming but questionable nonetheless.
As per Marketplacer Rule #1:
The XDA-Developers.com Market Place, hereafter MP, is provided free to members with at least 8 posts at XDA-Developers.com. XDA-Developers.com, its moderators, administrators, owners and legal advisors do not warrant, guarantee or endorse any item offered for sale or trade on this forum.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Trade at your own Risk.
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We have many Senior moderators who actively monitor the Marketplace forum We don't need anymore.
XDA will not get actively involved in a Marketplace dispute under normal circumstances. And we will never act as a "middle man". The above quoted rule underlines this.
Just to elaborate on what the_scotsman says above.
There are resource issues in providing checks on those trading in the Marketplace. We simply don't have these resources in terms of people to monitor trades, or systems to test or validate Users.
Equally, we do not have the resources to investigate when things go wrong. Inevitably in such cases, there will be conflicting accounts of what has happened and we have no way to prove or disprove the claims that are made by the parties in dispute. This is not an area with which we would ever suggest we can become involved.
Just occassionally we will disable the account of a member if there are repeated claims that purchased items have not been received, but Users should NEVER assume that we are checking sellers, because we are not.
We have no plans to bring in a checking system because with the resources we have, we simply wish to provide a basic noticeboard for sellers and a forum for threads where the transaction can be conducted in public. We do not Moderate the Marketplace except in a very cursory way, because it cannot be done reliably and more importantly it would give the FALSE impression that we were checking and validating the trades and sales in the Forum; in other words it might make buyers feel more secure in buying and yet the risk is ALL theirs.
It may be possible for us to implement some kind of User rating system whereby Users, not Moderators or Admin, can rate a Member according to how well or badly a sale/trade has gone. I understand this is being considered. Nevertheless, it would still be "buyer beware!".
If you are looking to buy and want guarantees and insurance if things go wrong, then our Marketplace Forum is not the place to buy! That said, if you are tempted to buy, then it may be possible for you to carry out some checks yourself, by looking at post history, previous sales if any and perhaps even a few checks using Google. You might also prefer to deal only with Members you have known over many months, even years!
Mike
Hi everyone, a while ago on my old XDA account I noticed that there was a place where people posted to sell their phones. I have an android phone that I would like to sell, but I can't seem to find out where that is! It was called, wanting to sell or something like that..?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
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Hi everyone, a while ago on my old XDA account I noticed that there was a place where people posted to sell their phones. I have an android phone that I would like to sell, but I can't seem to find out where that is! It was called, wanting to sell or something like that..?
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New users cannot see that forum. It is restricted to member accounts older than one year and with over 50 posts. You need 38 more posts, then you'll be able to sell your devices here next year in April 2013.
Really. Why is that? I had my old account with a couple hundred posts and I had it for 5 months and I could view that forum. I'm not sure why experience in the forum is needed to sell my phone lol.
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Really. Why is that? I had my old account with a couple hundred posts and I had it for 5 months and I could view that forum. I'm not sure why experience in the forum is needed to sell my phone lol.
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Rules were needed to try to cut down on the amount of scams that were happening. The new rules were implemented the middle of last month. If your other account is only 5 months old then you still can't use that forum even with the other account for another 7 months.
Ohh OK thanks. When I go to the page it tells me I either need 10 posts (which I just got) or an admin needs to activate my account if I have the posts.
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Ohh OK thanks. When I go to the page it tells me I either need 10 posts (which I just got) or an admin needs to activate my account if I have the posts.
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That's just an automated message. It lies. The new rules are listed below. Rule #7-b is the one that applies to you.
Link to announcement dated 15 March 2012.
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The Legal Stuff
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The XDA-Developers.com Marketplace, also known as MP, is provided free to members with at least 8 posts at XDA-Developers.com. XDA-Developers.com, its moderators, administrators, owners, legal advisors and all other related parties do not warrant, guarantee or endorse any item offered for sale or trade on this forum.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Trade at your own Risk. XDA-Developers is not and will not get involved in transactions whatsoever.
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The MP is for use by private parties only, do not post commercial links (SPAM) or links to private sales taking place on other sites ie: eBay, Craigsist, etc. The MP is intended for the sale of your personal phones and/or accessories. It is not intended as a sales platform for operating a business.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: No Business links allowed. No off-site sales allowed. Personal use only
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All transactions must take place in the public forum; use of the Private Message (PM) system to buy/sell/trade is against MP rules. Use of the PM system to convey private information, shipping address and payment details is acceptable.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: If you trade by PM how do you know the person you are buying from isn't selling the same item to 10 people? Keep all deals in the open.
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a. XDA-Developers allows the following items to be offered for Sale/Trade:
Mobile Phones including Tablet devices and directly related Accessories ONLY.
b. we do not allow items to be offered for Sale/Trade that are stolen, thought to be stolen, or of questionable history. For the avoidance of doubt, phones with a "bad ESN" or which are network barred are NOT permitted to be on the marketplace.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Don't sell anything but phones / accessories and ensure they are not stolen.
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Do not send money by any means that you cannot track or recover. Sending money via Western Union is a known scamming method and although it may be necessary due to country restrictions it is not recommended.
a. XDA-Developers recommends the use of PayPal® or another secure method of transferring money.
b. XDA-Developers is not responsible for transactions gone "bad". It is YOUR responsibility to know with whom you are dealing, and YOU assume all responsibility for the transaction.
In addition, the use of PayPal gift payments is not permitted on deals conducted on XDA. Specifically relevant to sellers, but applicable to everyone in general, you must not request any additional payment to cover PayPal fees. Doing either of the above is in breach of the PayPal terms and conditions.
SIMPLE ENGLISH: Use PayPal® whenever possible. You are responsible for your own actions.
Do not use PayPal gift payments, as these offer no protection. Do not ask the buyer to cover PayPal fees.
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By posting on the MP you agree that you have read, understand and will abide by these rules.
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a. You may sell 5 devices per month maximum (each device must be in a new thread).
b. All current registered members will be able to use the marketplace regardless of tenure on the site or number of posts. New members will NOT be able to use the marketplace until they accrue 50 posts and one year of XDA membership.
c. If you are selling or offering to trade, you must take a photo of the phone with XDA as a backdrop on your screen with your username clearly showing
d. If you are selling, you may only sell an absolutely maximum of five devices per month, and each listing must be contained with its own thread.
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ok thanks, yea i really wanted to sell my HTC phone, and XDA is the perfect place to sell it since theres so many people using it, but I guess I'll have to go somewhere else
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ok thanks, yea i really wanted to sell my HTC phone, and XDA is the perfect place to sell it since theres so many people using it, but I guess I'll have to go somewhere else
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eBay or Craigslist are two other popular place to offload devices..
Wait. I can access the forum, but I joined in October 2011.... Care to explain please?
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invasion2 said:
Wait. I can access the forum, but I joined in October 2011.... Care to explain please?
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Read 7-b.
Hi I am a note 7 owner that has made it through all this mess wwith my device rooted and charging 100 percent.I am reaching out to find out if anyone has any options on changing device information so carrier can not see. I have researched imei all imei changers are temporary is there any that are more permanent. I Also also would like to know if there is any way to change all other Info device I'd. The serial I have another device that is not a note 7 to swap it with it is a device u previously own any help would be greatly appreciated there are a lot of people looking for answers to this if you had some help thanks again
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Hi I am a note 7 owner that has made it through all this mess wwith my device rooted and charging 100 percent.I am reaching out to find out if anyone has any options on changing device information so carrier can not see. I have researched imei all imei changers are temporary is there any that are more permanent. I Also also would like to know if there is any way to change all other Info device I'd. The serial I have another device that is not a note 7 to swap it with it is a device u previously own any help would be greatly appreciated there are a lot of people looking for answers to this if you had some help thanks again
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Be advised, most of the stuff is illegal [emoji12] they might ended the thread.
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I have checked on the law it is only illegal in america if your device is stolen or your using it to do something illegsl
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garyinskeep1 said:
I have checked on the law it is only illegal in america if your device is stolen or your using it to do something illegsl
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Perhaps, but it's illegal in many other countries and this is an international forum is it not? Personally, I think banning any such discussion is too heavy handed based on the fact that it is NOT illegal everywhere. But the mods/site owner has taken a different view.
So are you saying nobody can answer or the mods wont let anyone answer
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So are you saying nobody can answer or the mods wont let anyone answer
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The latter. No such discussion is allowed on the forum.
I appologies not my intent to cause any problems not doing aything to harm anyone.I am not doinv anything illegal thank You was not aware will not be brought up here again have a good day and thanks for the great website
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Perhaps, but it's illegal in many other countries and this is an international forum is it not? Personally, I think banning any such discussion is too heavy handed based on the fact that it is NOT illegal everywhere. But the mods/site owner has taken a different view.
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Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
nomailx said:
Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
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What are you asking me for? It's got nothing to do with me. I just visit here, I don't make the rules
Maybe you should PM one of the mods, or raise this on another board or thread?
This is a common misconception, there is no "Freedom of Speech" outside of the government trying to restrict it. This forum is provided by a company who make rules about whatever is discussed here, this applies to all other social communities as well such as Facebook, Tumbler, Twitter, etc. They can make whatever rules they like, ban people for breaking them, delete posts that break the guidelines etc, and you have zero recourse other than leaving the group.
I'm fine with it like I said sorry for posting will no happen again was just looking for information did not mean to stir anything up will not ask about it again. I respect your decision. Thanks again
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I'm fine with it like I said sorry for posting will no happen again was just looking for information did not mean to stir anything up will not ask about it again. I respect your decision. Thanks again
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I don't think you will have upset anyone mate. Chill
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Ok, question, is there "Freedom of Speech" in the country where the xdadevelopers servers are located?
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this is a bit of a pointless comment, freedom of speech is a lie people like to believe, as soon as you enter private premises (web sites fall under the same heading) you have to follow the "house rules" so you may have freedom of speech by local law but the rules of the establishment they can kick you out and ban you for saying the wrong thing. as the people who own/run these establishments are held acountable for what they allow in their establishment, so really freedom of speech is nothing more than an idea used to make people think they have the right to say what they want, if there truly was freedom of speech there would never need to be a language rating on TV and Movies as people would have the right to say what they want when they want. it's the same as you wouldn't be able to be prosecuted for things like racial abuse as freedom of speech would protect your right to voice your opinion on those groups.
funny part is there is info on doing this so google play will see your phone as a different phone so you can download more apps but we cant help someone out that wants to use his phone and not show what he is using. Great.. Who ever asked the main question just search for the info by looking on how to change your phones info to download stuff i dont know if that will work but i hope it does.
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funny part is there is info on doing this so google play will see your phone as a different phone so you can download more apps but we cant help someone out that wants to use his phone and not show what he is using. Great.. Who ever asked the main question just search for the info by looking on how to change your phones info to download stuff i dont know if that will work but i hope it does.
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It's a completely different thing though.
Changing the phone "type" so that you can download different apps, is not contentious and doesn't have any sinister undertones. Changing the IMEI is what criminals will try to do with a stolen phone. Blocking the IMEI number on the network is the only way the network operators have to block stolen phones. That's why it's illegal in most territories, because it's synonymous with criminal activity. Yes there are non-criminal circumstances where a genuine user may wish to change the IMEI number for his phone, but they are usually out of luck. I'd like to own a hand gun here in the UK, but I am out of luck with that too!
Discussion of changing IMEI is prohibited on XDA.
Freedom of speech does not apply here as this is a private site operating under its own rules and guidelines.
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Is it possible to repair S22 imei number
This is also my interest. I purchased 2nd hand S22 which now got blocked due to unpayment by network carrier.
Can anybody advice me what I can do ?
krzakx said:
This is also my interest. I purchased 2nd hand S22 which now got blocked due to unpayment by network carrier.
Can anybody advice me what I can do ?
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I'm in the same boat, and the previous owner does not let me return it saying it's my problem now. So I'm stuck with it.
What I would do is unlock the bootloader, flash magisk patched firmware, install lsposed and try one of the imei spoof / imei changer modules to see if that does anything. I don't think there is any other way to circumvent it.
Shibs122 said:
Is it possible to repair S22 imei number
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yes, inbox
LEENO said:
yes, inbox
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it would help me too
jo220388 said:
it would help me too
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Me too please
Folks, let's be very careful what we are talking about here. Changing a phone's IMEI is illegal in many countries, and we do not tolerate the use of XDA to discuss illegal activities:
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This is one of those gray areas. If you are talking about REPAIRING your device to restore the ORIGINAL IMEI, that is fine - but be aware that most services available to do so are not free, and we do not allow the use of XDA to promote paid services:
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So, we ask that you be mindful of these points when discussing this topic.
To recap:
Repairing a device to restore the original IMEI is OK
Changing a device's IMEI is not to be discussed on XDA
I hope this helps make things clear.