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Hi, I've had my galaxy note 2 for about a month now and I absolutely love it. I love the fact where I can pull out the S-Pen and take a note. The problem I'm facing is that on the left side of the screen towords the bottom it seems to be off when I write. Wherever I write in that section it seems to write it to the right of where my pen is touching the screen. Take a look at the attached picture.
Now I've google searched if there is a method to calibrate the S Pen. But the only thing I seem to find is a method that works with the original Galaxy Note 1. And I have also come across an app called TouchscreenTune that helps you calibrate the S-Pen. But as far as I know this app calibrates the S Pen for the entire screen. For example if I calibrate the S Pen with this application and make it so it writes to the left instead of how it's off by going to the right it will do that for the entire screen. I'm only having this issue at that 1 section of the screen. Can anybody help me out please?
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Same issue
I don't have any solutions, but I can confirm that I'm having the same issue. It happens in a few places, but all of them are towards the edge fo the screen. I noticed it trying to make a line with a straight edge in sketchbook mobile, which this makes it impossible to do. Similarly, I've searched and can't find any suggestions on calibration. I'll take it to a sprint store in a few days.
I will be interested in hearing what they say. Im having the same problem.
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I have the same problem, it's happen on the right left of the screen
I am having the exact same issue. It is really hard to write in the bottom left area.
I dont have such issues.. ive just tried.. im not boasting, just saying... maybe defective spen?
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Laynee1 said:
I dont have such issues.. ive just tried.. im not boasting, just saying... maybe defective spen?
Handwritten from my Note 2
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Thanks for the comment. Just to make sure, when you write a bunch in that bottom left area, there's no interuptions in the inking or it's hard to write because the cursor doesn't stay centered?
I'm trying to figure out if this is something all of them have that's just too minor for most people to notice or there's just a few bad apples. I'll be at verizon tomorrow testing out some other note 2s and see if I see a pattern. If not, I'll just return.
Alvarez1E said:
Thanks for the comment. Just to make sure, when you write a bunch in that bottom left area, there's no interuptions in the inking or it's hard to write because the cursor doesn't stay centered?
I'm trying to figure out if this is something all of them have that's just too minor for most people to notice or there's just a few bad apples. I'll be at verizon tomorrow testing out some other note 2s and see if I see a pattern. If not, I'll just return.
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I have just checked it out.. When i write in bottom left area, everything is ok.. If you dont belive me ill screenshot you proof.. Again, i just wanna help you mate..
No issues here.
Is it still off in the Wacom test (in dialler enter *#0*#)?
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I have just checked it out.. When i write in bottom left area, everything is ok.. If you dont belive me ill screenshot you proof.. Again, i just wanna help you mate..
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Nah, I believe you. Sounds like I need to go back to vzw.
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No issues here.
Is it still off in the Wacom test (in dialler enter *#0*#)?
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Glad yours works. That code doesn't work for me. I'm on a verizon phone which means they probably jacked that up too along with everything else.
Interesting development today.
Exchanged my phone to verizon. Was really excited the new one was working so well. Went home and it started to do it again. Got real up set and then light bulb popped up. There's a magnet on the back of my seidio kickstand case. Took the case off and now it works fine. Which means the other one probably worked fine as well. Annoyed that I spent $50 on this stupid case.
Those with issues should check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029990
Don't thank me, thank the dev if it works for you
Alvarez1E said:
Interesting development today.
Exchanged my phone to verizon. Was really excited the new one was working so well. Went home and it started to do it again. Got real up set and then light bulb popped up. There's a magnet on the back of my seidio kickstand case. Took the case off and now it works fine. Which means the other one probably worked fine as well. Annoyed that I spent $50 on this stupid case.
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Yeah, you should never use any kind of case with magnets with a phone with a Wacom digitizer.
It's really a shame, otherwise I would've bought the KLD Ultra Slim PU Leather Flip Cover Case already.
Hi, sorry for the late response. But i went to Best Buy and tried another S-Pen and with the S-Pen it does the same thing. It weird, When i right the actual ink is not under where my pen is, its more to the right of it. Even if i hover the S-Pen over the screen the little circle thing is also off to the right abit. I tried to use that TouchScreen Tune app, but when i apply the changes in it, it says Failed< Unsupported ROM or FW. I use the S-Pen alot, and it sucks because of this inconvenience.
Oh and i can confirm that the App posted in that Link "Reset S-Pen" Does NOT work to fix this issue. I wish it was just the S-Pen that was defective. I have no problem going to Best Buy and buying a new one for $40.
My s pen accuracy improved when I did what another forum suggested. Go into pen settings, and switch it to left handed, and then back to right handed. That resets the calibration.
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My s pen accuracy improved when I did what another forum suggested. Go into pen settings, and switch it to left handed, and then back to right handed. That resets the calibration.
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Hi, I tried multiple times to do that but each time it results the same. It makes no difference. Maybe I just got a bad Wacom digitizer.
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Do yoi have it in a case? I did and found that there was a magnet closure (which screws up the digitizer).
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I got the same problem but it is normal to get a little departure right
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standarduser said:
Do yoi have it in a car e? I did and found that there was a magnet closure (which screws up the digitizer).
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Hi, i am using the original Samsung Flip Cover Case. It has no magnets. And i dont think this should be happening. I would expect this kind of defects from a cheap $100-$300 phone. Not from the best smartphone in the world that retails for over $700!
Dear all,
I'm using s-pen and n5100 for around 3 months and then buy samsung case (magnetic flip cover, pink) for just 10 day ago.
I noticed that when I'm using s-note, I can't use my s-pen to select pointer option anymore (used to be normal) but my finger do it just fine.
Then I googling around for "s-pen problem" and found that there is an issue with all sort of magnetic, but it will back to normal when put the magnet away.
But in my case, it's not. the top part of the screen can't be use by s-pen amymore :crying::crying:
Is there a way to recover this? I'm on a German stock rom post by geek78.
Thanks
Here the image from Sketchbook for testing s-pen
pic1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wigke7gkluuvxxi/Sketch25422237.jpg
pic2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjgt0rvaoo7m091/Sketch232135235.jpg
** update **
got mine back after 16 days!!
they said the mainboard were replaced to solve this issue.
there is plenty of discussion about this all over the internet..search and you will learn...
Take your tablet out of the case and turn it off for awhile. Turn it back on and see if you still have a problem. If not, don't use cases with magnets anymore. If you do still have a problem call Samsung and have then fix it under warranty. Then stop using cases with magnets!
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Thanks everyone.
I throw my case away for 3 days and it didn't back to normal state (that what I learn from googling so far, just put it out of the case and it'll be fine)
I'm now backing up and flashed the stock back in already, will go to samsung today.
I'll be update the situation when I met up with samsung official, and will post the tested pictures when I can.
maybe 10 days long apart from my beloved note :crying:
kainzx said:
Thanks everyone.
I throw my case away for 3 days and it didn't back to normal state (that what I learn from googling so far, just put it out of the case and it'll be fine)
I'm now backing up and flashed the stock back in already, will go to samsung today.
I'll be update the situation when I met up with samsung official, and will post the tested pictures when I can.
maybe 10 days long apart from my beloved note :crying:
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This is very disturbing. Just a couple of days ago, I decided I couldn't handle the inconvenience of the Stand Pouch anymore and took the plunge on an official Samsung Book Cover. I absolutely love it. My Note 8.0 now feels complete.
I was very anti magnetic covers, but as a few people have posted reviews on the book cover, and it's been some time with no complaints (till now)... I thought I was just being overly paranoid.
I've tested the spen digitizer thoroughly in sketchbook every day since getting this cover, and haven't noticed any problems yet.
Please let us know what Samsung have to say. Did you mention the book cover to them?
Also, I just assume it's the Official Book Cover for Galaxy Note 8.0 that you're using right?
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thanks for the info
Using 3 different cover, 2 with magnets.
No Problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288809
Posted this thread on the subject a month or so ago. alot of discussion with in it that may be of use for you. I used a case with magnets for a few weeks but decided to change as I felt it started to effect the side of the screen ever so slightly on the edge where the magnets that held the cover shut were located.
Now i use the Poetic revolution discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311243
I think its a brilliant case.
hertsjoatmon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288809
Posted this thread on the subject a month or so ago. alot of discussion with in it that may be of use for you. I used a case with magnets for a few weeks but decided to change as I felt it started to effect the side of the screen ever so slightly on the edge where the magnets that held the cover shut were located.
Now i use the Poetic revolution discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311243
I think its a brilliant case.
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Is the effect still noticeable (I.e. permanent)? Or has it returned to normal now that you use the Poetic revolution?
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Told you guys about this months ago. Eve r yo me said Noooooooooo won't happen. Too paranoid
Here come the complaints
.you can call this patient 0
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FaeMinx said:
Is the effect still noticeable (I.e. permanent)? Or has it returned to normal now that you use the Poetic revolution?
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Just tried scribbling in all the edges and corners in a new blank drawing file. Didn't notice any issues or lack of response. So I think it's fine. I only used the other case for a few weeks as it was only £5 and a stop gap while what I would use long term. The issue I started to notice a little was only at the extreme edge where the magnets that held the cover closed were located
janjannsen99 said:
Told you guys about this months ago. Eve r yo me said Noooooooooo won't happen. Too paranoid
Here come the complaints
.you can call this patient 0
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As this is patient 0, I'm still holding out that the digitizer failure and Samsung case are unrelated. Circumstantial evidence...
FaeMinx said:
Please let us know what Samsung have to say. Did you mention the book cover to them?
Also, I just assume it's the Official Book Cover for Galaxy Note 8.0 that you're using right?
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Yes, my case is official Samsung case (a pink one with a white note)
Yesterday I met with Samsung rep.
After they testing with thier utility (dial *#0*#) and choose Wacom test. It shown that the top of my screen has some damage so they have to replace some part and I need to wait
I also have a senior in my office have note 8.0 with the same Samsung case (Brown note with black case), which is still fully functional. If his note last more that a month with Samsung case, maybe it's just my note that have a defected part.
Will update again when I got mine back (hopefully monday!)
hertsjoatmon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288809
Posted this thread on the subject a month or so ago. alot of discussion with in it that may be of use for you. I used a case with magnets for a few weeks but decided to change as I felt it started to effect the side of the screen ever so slightly on the edge where the magnets that held the cover shut were located.
Now i use the Poetic revolution discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311243
I think its a brilliant case.
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Thank you. reading
FaeMinx said:
As this is patient 0, I'm still holding out that the digitizer failure and Samsung case are unrelated. Circumstantial evidence...
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To clarify my experience. I was using a very cheap case, not the official samsung one. I'm sure the samsung magnets are weaker and sheilded to minimise abverse effects. This is an assumption on my part though having not used one.
dear hertsjoatmon,
After glide to your link (another topic there) I think that the Wacom's layer is damaged (that's why only s-pen is unwritable), I'll look at part no. in the receipt and will update here.
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As this is patient 0, I'm still holding out that the digitizer failure and Samsung case are unrelated. Circumstantial evidence...
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Go search through the note 2 forums. All that the note 8.0 is, is a big note 2 with no radios 5110 at least. But believeth what you might choose, magnets plus electronics equals fail watson.
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janjannsen99 said:
Go search through the note 2 forums. All that the note 8.0 is, is a big note 2 with no radios 5110 at least. But believeth what you might choose, magnets plus electronics equals fail watson.
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A-ha! That must be the reason why HDDs in my PC fail every few+ years - thank you Sherlock.
But seriously - custom cases are another story - but I cannot imagine nobody in Samsung would remember to check what is the long-term impact of their own case magnets on screen digitizer. At least for two reasons:
2. warranty replacements generate losses
1. they are not idiots
Its possible that it was just a defect in the tablet. I have seen plenty of videos of the nexus 7 touch screen becoming non responsive.
I read one guy went through 5 on warranty until finally figuring out it's the book cases magnets that was the issue.
I sure won't be risking magnets.
Picked up a Noreve leather snap case. There are lots of options out there.
So, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this yet, but there is another trinket of info that points to the book cover being actively sensed by this tablet. When poking around in settings, I happened across this little feature.
dpersuhn said:
So, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this yet, but there is another trinket of info that points to the book cover being actively sensed by this tablet. When poking around in settings, I happened across this little feature.
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A video shows the function in action.
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Ummmmmm... What did he say... Luckily for me I'm a visual person... Lol
...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...
Rickgsx said:
Ummmmmm... What did he say... Luckily for me I'm a visual person... Lol
...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...
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We need an Italian translator! I speak Spanish and English, so I can kinda get some of it, but he was going so fast it's hard lol
Does anyone know WHERE we can actually buy this book cover?
Man, Samsung does not make it easy. They need to support their products more. iPad 5 will have about a million accessories all over the place.
Han Solo 1 said:
Does anyone know WHERE we can actually buy this book cover?
Man, Samsung does not make it easy. They need to support their products more. iPad 5 will have about a million accessories all over the place.
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Samsung has had a terrible launch for its S-Note line. I've had my Note 3 for over a week and still no sign of official accessories anywhere whether in-store or at Amazon.
Same for the note 10.1 2014.
If you want to charge these high prices you better provide an apple-esque experience and that means no headaches for anything including finding accessories.
Diogenes5 said:
Samsung has had a terrible launch for its S-Note line. I've had my Note 3 for over a week and still no sign of official accessories anywhere whether in-store or at Amazon.
Same for the note 10.1 2014.
If you want to charge these high prices you better provide an apple-esque experience and that means no headaches for anything including finding accessories.
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I was able to get a genuine S-View cover from Verizon, but only through telesales, not online or in the store.
Is that advertised anywhere? No.
Does Samsung's official site list any covers or cases? No.
They suck so bad at accessories. It's ridiculous.
Yeah Samsung's last few product launches have been the same, no accessories until a few weeks after.
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Yeah Samsung's last few product launches have been the same, no accessories until a few weeks after.
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That's better than Google, they take months lol
I can confirm it does wake the tablet. I don't have the smart cover, but I do have a keyboard with a "smart cover"that turns it on and off. Placing it over the screen, or even on the back, trips the magnetometer, putting the tablet to sleep. Removing it wakes it up into a quick note/dashboard type of program.
I bought a sleeve that is actually for an iPad and daynote does work. It's not working every time but every now and again I'm presented with a special screen after removing the note from its sleeve.
Best Buy tells me it will be in stock this week. Either with their Monday shipment or Thursday shipment.
We'll see. Given that their Samsung Experience employees didn't even know it was releasing the week before it did, I don't put much stock into what they say.
nonononono
Before you try any magnet cases, test if the digitizer survives it. i had one on my note 8.0 and it had a big impact on the wacom digitizer, when drawing i would get close to 10mm of offset or the area around the magnet didn't work at all. When i noticed this i immediately performed a little surgery and now the case is a dumb piece of leather. Luckily i noticed it pretty quickly so i got no permanent damage. I'm not sure if permanent damage CAN be done with such a weak magnet, but look out
InfiniteDroid said:
Before you try any magnet cases, test if the digitizer survives it. i had one on my note 8.0 and it had a big impact on the wacom digitizer, when drawing i would get close to 10mm of offset or the area around the magnet didn't work at all. When i noticed this i immediately performed a little surgery and now the case is a dumb piece of leather. Luckily i noticed it pretty quickly so i got no permanent damage. I'm not sure if permanent damage CAN be done with such a weak magnet, but look out
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Wow seriously? This kind of scares me as I am using the Moko case. But you know I don't think the Note 8.0 was made to be utilized with a magnet. Seeing that the Note 10.1 2014 is made to wake up with the use of a magnet, I think they made have designed it to be magnet friendly.
I could eb wrong, because I returned my Note 8.0
Yes, you might be right but look out. You dont want a tablet thats at a higher price because of something that breaks because of you not using a correct case.
Ps. In the second sentence "you" is meant for everyone and not to offend Slim
Does their official book cover have a magnet?
Edit: The prototype at the Samsung show did not. Hmm.
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SlimJ87D said:
Does their official book cover have a magnet?
Edit: The prototype at the Samsung show did not. Hmm.
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On the Note 3, the "View" cover uses a Hall effect sensor I have read.
What I noticed about this cover is that it seems to cover the camera when it is folded over the back??
Han Solo 1 said:
Best Buy tells me it will be in stock this week. Either with their Monday shipment or Thursday shipment.
We'll see. Given that their Samsung Experience employees didn't even know it was releasing the week before it did, I don't put much stock into what they say.
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Nope, they don't really know release dates on anything. I've been asking the Samsung guy about Note 3 cases, he tells me a day, and they never come in.
Was just over at BB today, asking him if they had the cases, when another lady came up and wanted to know also. WTF, is up with Samsung and the slow releases of these accessories for both Note 3 and 10.1??
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On the Note 3, the "View" cover uses a Hall effect sensor I have read.
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A hall effect sensor requires a magnet.
Colchiro said:
A hall effect sensor requires a magnet.
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Heh! Yeah you're right!
Here's what I was thinking when I said that.
The magnet can be on either side. So not necessarily on the cover. "Could" be steel on the cover, but probably not.
Like for instance, I am putting a hall sensor on a Motorcycle presently. The magnet is in the sensor itself. The trigger wheel is steel.
So steel goes through the field and causes the trigger.
But it seems that the magnet here "should" be on the cover. Otherwise all steel would trigger the sensor and screw with the display.
I did run a magnet near my screen and couldn't get it to switch even after fooling with the S-View settings.
Apologies if I have missed the grand tab S3 case thread but haven't found one. I've just splashed out in an S3 and need a case for it. Sadly origami doesn't make one for the S3. So what do people use?
Hi
Please note that if you use any case that has auto wake feature (magnets) you will get problems using the S pen, unresponsive areas on the screen,
I have not found any third party case yet that works perfectly with the S pen
it would be very easy to think the tablet has a fault with the display, when the problem is the case, if you find a good usable case, could you report back,
the only case with no problem is the official Samsung case, but this gives very little corner protection and is very expensive, then there is the Samsung keyboard case, but this has no cut out for camera, so that's also not an option for me
Trev
TT Vario 2 said:
Hi
Please note that if you use any case that has auto wake feature (magnets) you will get problems using the S pen, unresponsive areas on the screen,
I have not found any third party case yet that works perfectly with the S pen
it would be very easy to think the tablet has a fault with the display, when the problem is the case, if you find a good usable case, could you report back,
the only case with no problem is the official Samsung case, but this gives very little corner protection and is very expensive, then there is the Samsung keyboard case, but this has no cut out for camera, so that's also not an option for me
Trev
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I have the keyboard case from Samsung. Works just fine with the S Pen. I sometimes detatch the keyboard and lay the tablet flat on the cover, and no problems with S Pen.
However this case does not have auto wake and lock feature when closing the lid. But it has instead this feature if you connect or disconnect the keyboard. So they did not forget this feature. =)
Sure no back camera, but who takes pic with tablets? Front camera more important for video chatting...
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It always baffles me when you see tourists photographing with their tablets.
TT Vario 2 said:
Hi
Please note that if you use any case that has auto wake feature (magnets) you will get problems using the S pen, unresponsive areas on the screen,
I have not found any third party case yet that works perfectly with the S pen
it would be very easy to think the tablet has a fault with the display, when the problem is the case, if you find a good usable case, could you report back,
the only case with no problem is the official Samsung case, but this gives very little corner protection and is very expensive, then there is the Samsung keyboard case, but this has no cut out for camera, so that's also not an option for me
Trev
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I thought I responded to this but perhaps not.
The Samsung keyboard case I have has the cutout for the back camera.
What issues have you had with the S-Pen and magnets? I have another case I use 70% of the time that has magnets and have no issues with the S-Pen.
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I have. See recent thread re "ZERO-magnet" cases.
So if I hold down buttons (on a forbidden stylus)) I can click and drag in my fold4. It is ABSOLUTELY compatable with older stylus
Its a simple matter of having it allowing the frequency codes of the other stylus. We know it sees them in order to throw up the warnings.
I strongly believe the "will damage your screen" warnings are for gorillas who might use the phone.
I have never warn out a single stylus,
I am a very light pressure drawer and on op of that I have soft nibs & spring nibs from other pens
I want to take the risk and use my standard pens as I have many Wacom devices I use at once and it get annoying swaping pens.
Yes I have the 2-in-1 pro spen. But I dont want the hassle of having to flip the switch 100 times a day.
Same here, hope there is a workaround.
¿Any non samsung spen compatible with our fold 4? I don't want the bt version, just a standar one to have it at home.
kban2000 said:
¿Any non samsung spen compatible with our fold 4? I don't want the bt version, just a standar one to have it at home.
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Nillkin iSketch Adjustable Capacitive Stylus... Bought one a year or so ago. It works on ALL capacitive touch screens...
Cost around $50Aud but work brilliantly...
Quick search found here - https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000379135172.html
You should find a little cheaper if you look as this was 1st hit I found....
I have an old Samsung HM5100 stylus and I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to be able to use it with my fold 4. If anyone can figure out how I can I will be forever thankful.
Came from Note 20 Ultra. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to use it on my Fold4.
Let us all not let this thread die, please.
I have a Note 8 AND a Note 10+.
Both their S-Pen's air gestures can be recognized by the sensors on the Fold 4's inner display.
And I'm gonna be using it with a screen protector anyway.
I don't understand WHY anyone hasn't paid attention to this thread yet.
Come on guys, you'll be collecting blessings out of this.
do the old spens of the note, tab, s series work on fold 4? I have both bt and non bt spen.
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do the old spens of the note, tab, s series work on fold 4? I have both bt and non bt spen.
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NO !
SPen Fold edition has an special "retractile nib system" to use with Samsung Folds
Oddly enough, I use the Nilikin Spen on all my devices and it works on the fold 4 even when I turn the SPEN 'off' on the phone, because it is a powered pen (chargeable) .. but- it defeats the purpose. The pen is BIG and has to be carried just as the original SPEN coming from Samsung, and the fold phones do not have WHERE to put them, unless the case has it, and I use the phone naked. Further more- I use a Samsung laptop and it comes with a built in pen that DOES NOT work on the FOLD. Frustration? Hack yeah ! So I have a pen that works on 'all' my devices, but it isn't a reasonable solution. Also - The Nilikin pen has a fairly wide tip compared to the original FOLD SPEN. Not great. Samsung must find a way, with such a bulky phone, to host an SPEN, and better be one compatible to their other devices (laptop and N10/N20 series). Pathetic solution so far for the FOLD 3/4 .
Ok, I won't buy it then!