hi i bought a s4 mini yesterday and searched everywhere but there is no "eye scrolling" feature, all i see is smart pause @ the smart screen settings... Is there a way i can get those options?
(i only see one option at the smart screen settings)
Only the S4 has such a feature. Samsung did not include those features in the S4 mini
That´s true, only the S4 have "Eye Scrolling" & "Smart Pause" and I think S4 mini never will get it official.
Does anyone know why this feature is left out of the mini?
this is marketing
Could be several reasons. There are sensors on the S4 which don't exist on the mini variant in order to downsize the phone and also allow the phone to last decently long enough with the smaller battery as well.
Also, the S4 mini is not their top-of-the-line phone and so they will not include all the features of such phones in their midrange products.
Marketing, as bog said.
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TouchWiz S4 Mini was gutted in terms of some cooler TouchWiz function available on the regular S4, namely:
Air View, smart stay, smart scroll, air gesture, multi Window, TV remote, etc.
However, I have seen they are porting S4 room into regular S3. I would imagine it should be even easier to do it with S4 mini (especially, as pre-sale versions already had (some of those?) features that were later disabled).
Is there a good chance for a rom that will contain those S4 things that are now missing from S4 mini?
This is one of the main question I ask myself while deciding whether I should get S2 or S4 mini, as S3/S4 is more of a spade, than a mobile phone.
There's TV remote on s4 mini (ir blaster )
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There's TV remote on s4 mini (ir blaster )
Also, does the S2 have those features? If it doesn't then you might as well get the S4 Mini for the performancd
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No, S2 doesn't have those features but is 100 euro cheaper than S4 mini, so I would like to know if there's a point of that price difference.
So the remote is there (I don't care much for it). How about chances to get the rest of the features with a S4 rom port?
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No, S2 doesn't have those features but is 100 euro cheaper than S4 mini, so I would like to know if there's a point of that price difference.
So the remote is there (I don't care much for it). How about chances to get the rest of the features with a S4 rom port?
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The things that the S4 Mini will never get are things like Air Gestures since the Mini doesn't have the front facing IR sensor that the S4 has so it can't detect movement.
However things like smart scroll is POSSIBLE in a ROM since that just uses the front-facing camera, so smart scroll is a software exclusion not a hardware issue. As for multi-window that too is software related so MAYBE a ROM might have it but remember that is some serious work so you may never see it.
As for Smart Stay....the S4 Mini already HAS that...
Regarding porting an S4 ROM to the S3/S4 Mini as I said above Air Gestures will NOT work since the IR sensor for that is missing.
Thank you, that explains quite a lot.
So I am still stuck between a S2 and its amazing development resources, or S4 mini, which for the moment has next to none. And I don't know if it will ever have enough to produce some really interesting ROM options.
S4 mini advantages:
- camera wide lens as in S3 (can someone confirm? I hate narrow lens of regular S4)
- slightly better screen
- slightly better camera
- slightly faster (don't really care, cause I never game, only multitask)
- might get some S4 functions down the line
S2 advantages:
- 100 euro cheaper
- huge amount of roms
- roms with changable dpi (remedies the issue of lower resolution, making it even possibly an advantage over S4 mini without this function)
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Thank you, that explains quite a lot.
So I am still stuck between a S2 and its amazing development resources, or S4 mini, which for the moment has next to none....
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Well it seems you have made up your own mind here
If being able to choose from large amounts of ROM's is what you want then maybe the S2 is what you want but remember the s4 mini only came out around July/August so not really a lot of time to create stable ROM's.
All I can say is that the S4 Mini is much more future proof in terms of hardware specs so that should count for something. If you wanted to stay stock then my argument would be simple since the s4 mini would definitely be updated by Samsung since it is a rather beefy phone but since you're interested in using various ROM's then the S2 seems like a winner at the moment. Main phone such as the S2 or S3 and S4 would get more ROM support since they were "flagship" phones when they came out.
Take this in mind, look at how much support the S3 Mini has gotten and then apply that to the S4 Mini (but in my opinion the S4 Mini seems to be more popular than the S3 Mini so it may get more ROM support, but give it some time)
To end off as a closing argument. If you want a phone NOW then I would say the S2 since you clearly want ROM choices BUT take into consideration that the S4 Mini has only been around for 1-2 months.
That's the best I can do, hopefully it has helped in your decision.
*Addressing one of your advantages of the S4 Mini, the S4 Mini is not slightly faster than the S2. It is MILES faster. It's getting +-19500 in Antutu 4 whereas the S2 is only getting +-10500
*Also what do you mean by wide lens camera? You mean like choosing a wide capture mode? The S4 Mini does let you choose full resolution 4:3 which are squarish or you can choose slightly lower resolution 16:9 pictures which are widescreen. But ye maybe I don't know what you mean.
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Take this in mind, look at how much support the S3 Mini has gotten and then apply that to the S4 Mini (but in my opinion the S4 Mini seems to be more popular than the S3 Mini so it may get more ROM support, but give it some time)
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Good point. Haven't thought of looking into that.
*Addressing one of your advantages of the S4 Mini, the S4 Mini is not slightly faster than the S2. It is MILES faster. It's getting +-19500 in Antutu 4 whereas the S2 is only getting +-10500
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I am not sure where would I see this speed difference if I don't game.
*Also what do you mean by wide lens camera? You mean like choosing a wide capture mode? The S4 Mini does let you choose full resolution 4:3 which are squarish or you can choose slightly lower resolution 16:9 pictures which are widescreen. But ye maybe I don't know what you mean.
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No, that's not what I mean. If you look at the difference between the area of the picture S3 and S4 fit into the frame (check out S4 gsmarena review) you will be amazed by how much narrower is the lens of S4. That's a serious issue for me.
I read S4 mini's camera is nearly the same as S3's so I would like to know if the viewing angle is also as wide.
Also, do you think prices of S4 mini will drop when Note 3 comes out?
The speed improvement will be clearly reflected in your multitasking. Also note the amount of ram the s2 has vs s4mini.
The prices are unlikely to drop as they are of very different functions and target very different user groups.
I know that on paper the s4 mini has the better specs. I'm hesitant to buy the s4 mini because samsung smartphones tend to lag even with the good specs (i have a s2 right now). Can someone who has used a htc one mini and s4 mini tell me how they compare in real life?
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I know that on paper the s4 mini has the better specs. I'm hesitant to buy the s4 mini because samsung smartphones tend to lag even with the good specs (i have a s2 right now). Can someone who has used a htc one mini and s4 mini tell me how they compare in real life?
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I didnt see any difference, apart from touchwiz vs sense, between the s4 mini and the one mini.
But i prefer running cyanogenmod anyway so maybe i just didnt want to see any difference
don't remember all the specs of the htc one mini, but I think it has the better resolution. Anyway I choose the s4 mini because the htc one mini doesn't offer a micro sd slot.
I've never gotten much hands-on time with the one mini so I can't give a good comparison except that the one mini felt sturdier due to its metal frame.
Also, the S4 mini doesn't lag. Especially after installing custom roms
lag? but....wait, you really want to use stock ROM?
install cyanogenmod, it's awesome!!
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I'm hesitant to buy the s4 mini because samsung smartphones tend to lag even with the good specs
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The S4 Mini is higher performance than the S3 (yes, S3, not just S3 Mini). I've never seen it lag, neither on stock nor on CM ROMs. Note that I don't play any demanding games, though.
In synthetic benchmarks, the S4 Mini is also considerably faster than the HTC One Mini. Both phones have the same CPU, but it's clocked about 20% faster in the S4 Mini than in the One Mini. Furthermore, the S4 Mini has 50% more RAM. The S4 Mini has a lower resolution display than the One Mini, which may be a con for you but it certainly helps in providing a super-snappy GUI.
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I know that on paper the s4 mini has the better specs. I'm hesitant to buy the s4 mini because samsung smartphones tend to lag even with the good specs (i have a s2 right now). Can someone who has used a htc one mini and s4 mini tell me how they compare in real life?
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Had the same dilema, but at the end went for S4 mini, as it has more advantages (at least for me - removable battery, memocard and easy to manage with Odin).
Hi fellas,
I recently bought a Sony Z3TC to use as my daily driver and therefore replacing my Note II. Although I love the tablet, I found two things I really hate. The lack of a private speaker, making it only possible to take calls using the loudspeaker - which isn't that convenient unless you carry a BT headset around with you.
The other part is the camera, which is so-so. Although I'm not that used to "fancy" cameras (like the ones on the Sony Z3 for example), I still find it annoying to be without a proper flash. I've been comparing photos taken with the Z3TC and Tab S, and find the Tab S to come out on top - not by a lot in daylight, but more so in darker scenarios.
So I'm basically wondering if you guys can recommend an Tab S 8.4 - or if I should wait for the "new" slate which is supposed to be released in Korea later this month. Although I live in Sweden, I'm sure we'll be able to buy the new slate with improved specs soonish enough. I keep reading on this forum regarding the sluggish performance of TouchWiz on the Tab S. Is it really that bad? The Z3TC is flawless in that regard, which I truly love. See, my Note II somehow feels slower and slower for each day that passes. Should I prepare for a similar experience with the current Tab S?
Is there anyone on this forum who's using his/hers Tab S as a daily driver / phone replacement and care to give me some opinions whether it's an good idea or not?
Gone the other way
Hi
I just went the other way due to the stutter/lag present on the Tab S. The Exynos processor is not man enough to shove around all those extra pixels, and TouchWiz is a pig. Loving the Z3TC, but I also have a phone so not trying to use it for voice calls. If you are outside the US, then all versions of the Tab S are Exynos (not snapdragon). The Exynos based Tab S 8.4 LTE uses an intel chip to do the 3g/4g stuff and this its-self has issues with 3g/4g handover. I had to flick mine in/out of flight mode to regain connectivity all the time. If you are inside the US then the LTE version is Snapdragon 800 based, and the WiFi version Exynos based.
I also find the battery life on the Z3TC to be way way better than that of the Tab S 8.4
Nigel
I have had this phone about 5 times longer than I have EVER had a phone, Its time for a new device! It has gotten very boring!
The s4 mini is a couple years old now but still king of the 4.3" market (with price and features included), what phones have y'all seen that will replace your s4 mini?
My phones must have an sd slot, 4.3ish inch screen(one thumb use), good cameras, LTE, and user replacable batteries.
The s5 mini would work for me if I could figure out how to move it to sprint from us cellular, z3 compact would be nice as well but the price is unjustifiable and I had a z1 compact and it had all sorts of bugs that I read arent too far off the z3c, the s5 mini Im still on the hunt for but I am also trying to make the switch over to cdma, the htc minis are solid phones but just not well executed with all its features being dull.
And to top it all off, the small screen market is so messed up I have almost gotten a few iphone 5s to play with! help me find a better phone!
Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Idk the last time you looked bit about a week ago I seen they finally have full root for z3c so it'll be more appealing to the majority and speed things up. I still think I'd rather have a s5 mini over the z3c any day though.
I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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Definitely! I grew up on HTC phones and love my capacitive buttons. I tried the Nav bar buttons on a few phones and its just weird, but they usually come with a slightly bigger screen to offset. But it still reminds me too much of an iPhone where your screen is taken up by buttons rather than physical buttons
Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol
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Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol
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Well i would definitely like to go with samsung ( yes I love debloated touchwiz)mini dual sim flagships( s7 mini duos?!?), but alas! it looks most unlikely. Besides, 4.3"-4.5" screens with flagship specs are scarce/not available. On a brighter note ZUK Z2 looks promising, tough its 5" may be Mi5 mini if that comes out. Waiting.
Note: My ideal phone: 1)4.5" display( with max 5" dimension). 2) Dual sim with microsd (No hybrid sim tray). 3)Snapdragon 652(will reduce the price compared to 820) with Quick charge 3.0. 4)Weight: 140 gms max. 5)up to date Touchwiz Ui with with themes store. 6)Notification LED(RGB).
Finally got my hands on a G800M s5 mini a couple months ago after selling off my z5c. I like the form factor, the waterproofness, the speaker loudness, and resolution. all around a nice phone except for dev support, the s4 mini blows it away in that department. If you get a chance to find one snatch it up!(it took me two years of searching) I still daily the s4 mini though, and probably will be for a few more years.. Also Im going to be trying the ios10 out for the SE once jailbreak comes out.
i still have my s4 mini in a drawer parked aside, it was my main device but i recently upgraded to the nexus 5x and i just love it! but the s4 mini remains one of my favorite android phones ever used.
I came to the S4 Mini from the diminutive Xperia Ray (awesome LegacyXperia roms!), so the Samsung felt quite large initially. Now I look at the Ray, which still serves me well as an alarm clock, and it seems so small...I cannot believe I used it for web, mail, maps, etc.
The S4 Mini is a great little device, and made even better thanks to the sterling work from @arco68. Every so often I search the net for news of any new 4.3" phones with decent specs and good developer support, but of course nothing exists. I considered a Z3C before getting the S4 Mini, but was put-off by the limited official CM development, which I consider to be essential.
I remain hopeful that a manufacturer will one day launch a well-specked, modern, and truly mini phone that devs can get behind. However, until that happens I will happily stick with S4 Mini, which does everything I need and is just the right size.
My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.
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My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.
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the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well
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the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well
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Me too, there's just something better with KK. Best compatibility with DonkeyGuard and Opera Mini Handler Hui (actually those two apps don't even run in Lollliopop). I just wish that the S5 mini had CM 11 and will fully switch
Fingers crossed the rumors of a Xiamoi Mi S turn out to be true...
I don't mean for the S-Pen, as that is a given, but for the screen/device itself.
Last year, while using Soundcamp with the Tab S3, I had discovered that the screen was velocity sensitive -- as instruments such as drums responded to light and hard taps.
Did Samsung keep this present on the Tab S4?
This is present on the Note 8 but it doesn't seem to work as well as it did on the Tab S3 (which I had sold, not long after owning it). I'm considering picking up the S4 but not because of this feature -- this is more a question of curiousity since no reviewer out there bothers to mention this feature that's been in Samsung's devices for the past couple years.