[Q] Verizon or T-Mobile? - Verizon HTC One (M7)

I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?

vampire5003 said:
The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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I left verizon for the G1 on T-Mobile then left T-Mobile for the HTC Incredible. Since I have my eye on the One and can get it on either I wanted to know which provider (or version of phone actually) would be better,
I'm sure someone will come up with something for the Verizon version, I just wanted to know which would have more support for ROMs and such in the future. With my GNEX, it always seemed the GSM version had more and quicker updates.
I really don't prefer one over the other, but I guess I'm just upset Verizon won't let me keep my Unlimited and T-Mobile offers it still.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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I left T-Mobile and I will NEVER go back. They offer the ability to upgrade faster because their service sucks.
vampire5003 said:
The Verizon HTC One is newer and will not have root or a bootloader unlock immediately, but considering the T-Mobile HTC One has been around for months now, it most likely has a working root. If you stay with Verizon we will most likely get a root and bootloader unlock within a week or two. It's your choice. Which carrier do you prefer? Why did you pick Verizon in the first place if coverage is the same?
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Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.

I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!

samstudent said:
I tried T-Mobile and the coverage in my area was terrible and was forced to switch back to Verizon. Just be careful and really check that coverage map!
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I know Verizon is great as far as coverage, but I know T-Mobile isn't bad in my area either.
I just really want to know if there will be developers that care about this version like I'm sure they are with the GSM version.
I am glad to see that it's unlockable (for now). That puts even more of a time crunch as I'm sure Verizon will have an OTA out there to kill that soon....

I did 2 months of t-mobile prepaid just to test our their new LTE network in my area (San Jose Bay Area, CA). I have 2 verizon lines, 1 for work and 1 for person.
Yesterday, I officially terminated my personal Verizon line and moved the number to T-Mobile. While T-Mobile's 3G/4G HSPA reception is shotty, their LTE network in San Jose is extremely solid and robust, especially considering how new it is.
Just my thoughts and opinions.

I just switched from Verizon to T Mobile, I tested it out for a week before I ported my line. T Mobile is just as fast here in Chicago and about $50 lower a month than Verizon. If you travel I would probably stick with Verizon. I just went from Chicago to NJ and had terrible to no signal through OH & PA.

I have used both carriers. In my opinion Verizon has the best coverage, but t mobile has the cheapest plan. When I was with Verizon I paid 130 a month and right know I'm only paying 70 a month for t mobile for unlimited everything.
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Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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dottat said:
Every HTC phone I've had so far allowed data while on the phone. That's not unique to T-Mobile. My vzw phones (HTC) have all done it...including this ONE
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cstrife999 said:
All 4g data can run while on a call regardless of carrier. 3g was limited to resound and thunderbolt on verizon
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To be honest, I just figured this out last night as I was on hold on a call and answering emails. I remember I wasn't able to do that at one point, and never even noticed the change. The commercials come to mind of other carriers making fun of Verizon not being able to do that so I never even tried. Since at work and at home (if not on wifi) I'm usually only a 3G signal anyway if it worked I wouldn't have noticed. And I live/work in Norfolk VA which is not exactly the middle of nowhere. Maybe my GNEX just sucks...... I dont know. This is a congested area though so maybe that's why?
I went to both last night. The guy that helped me at Verizon was reason enough to quit them and never go back. The entire time I had to talk over his football game on his iPhone. Had it connected to a speaker and had it on full blast. I actually had to repeat myself numerous times... a**hole. He made it quite clear I was a nuisance to him.
I know I'm comparing two different phones and I'm sure any other radio out now will blow away whatever is on my GNEX, but speedtest on Verizon was low teens while T-Mobile was constantly over 20 on the One
I may just make the switch. If I travel I can use wifi if I don't have service. Every McDonalds and Starbucks has it, so I'm not worried (those are EVERYWHERE :laugh. and either way, I believe I'll just buy the phone outright.
I guess I still have the question of GSM vs CDMA. Since Google is pushing the updates for the GSM version, would that be the way to go?
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just don't want to make the decision to realize it was the wrong one. Other's advice is always appreciated.

buy T-Mobile. It runs same roms as universal so development will always be more. And if tmo had service as good as Verizon here, I'd be on it. It's so much cheaper.
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sebastianraven said:
Bootloader unlock already works per dev. forum.
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I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW

lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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Dark Jedi said:
If you was one of the lucky few when the HTC one was first launched then you was able to unlock through HTC dev before Verizon issued the stop. Now if you want an unlocked bootloader you need to find a person like sonic with a java card to unlock your phone for a fee.
Now some has said there are devs who possibly found an exploit but are waiting until Verizon updates the phone to 4.3 so they can't patch the exploit right off the bat.
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And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?

lhuge said:
I'm confused between the above claim and THIS THREAD
I thought bootloader unlock was not possible (yet?) on VZW
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I wrote that over a month ago on day one of the release.
lhuge said:
And does anyone have a decent guess at when 4.3 will be released for HTC One?
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Well, this is Verizon, so I'm guessing September of next year.

wiredawg119 said:
I've looked and looked and if I missed something, I apologize.
I'm currently on Verizon. I left T-Mobile way back when to get the Incredible and upgraded to the GNEX the day it became available. I carried over my unlimited data and now I'm just a little pissed I have to give it up (or pay full price or pay for an extra line).
I've been out of the loop for some time, but browse the forums enough to hear people complain about the CDMA phones (mostly been with the GNEX). The One is offered on Verizon and T-Mobile and now I'm able to stay and upgrade or leave and go elsewhere.
I've had and loved T-Mo before. Their service here is just as good as Verizon. I also enjoy their surf the net while you talk (mom can rambe sometimes).
But I can find a plan with either one...
Should I get away from Verizon's phones for a T-mobile. Is it easier to unlock/root/ROM? Is there more support for those things (Dev working on new updates)?
Thanks in advance. Sorry if there is something I missed.
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If your service is the same, then t-mobile is clearly the better choice. However if you plan on moving around at all, I'd be very wary of t-mobile. I too left verizon for t-mobile once and went back because Verizon had superior coverage. T-mobile was great in most areas, except where they weren't. Verizon was always good, everywhere coverage wise

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Galaxy Nexus on Page Plus? I want that unlimited talk/sms/1GB data for $55

I'm a brand new Galaxy Nexus owner! Actually I bought it for my girlfriend; there's no way I could give up my Note. Anyone know how to get this thing set up on Page Plus? The first thing they asked for is an ESN or MEID #, so I pulled the battery and there's only an IMEI # listed. The customer service rep said they can't do anything without an ESN or MEID; but then how does it work on Verizon? If it works with Verizon, it should work with Page Plus.
I'm starting to worry now, because I also just found a thread here where they're trying the same thing but stuck because they can't find the diagnostic menu for manual programming. Anyone know anything about that? Now that I have it in my hands, I reallllly want to get it working!!!
I like how you bought the phone and then decided to do the research on it.
And why did you decide to go for the Verizon version and go with Page Plus? You'd be better off getting the GSM version anyway and using that. There are many many many more MVNO and prepaid options if you just bought GSM. Its not like you were going to get LTE on any prepaid network anyways. Buying a Galaxy Nexus and parking it on EVDO is kinda ****ty.
That being said, looks like you're gonna have to do some research on this one. My guess is theres an issue because Verizon activates and registers phones on their network using the LTE SIM, rather than traditional CDMA methods (afaik).
Err...Verizon uses the MicroSIM. It contains an MEID number, so it can easily be attached to the network when it's plugged in.
Also, the CDMA/LTE Nexus is carrier-locked, so even if you had an MEID number it wouldn't be allowed on Page Plus' network.
Did you seriously spend $650 without even doing a minute of research?
It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research. I'm sure I can re-sell it if I have to, but I'd really rather not.
After posting I went to About in settings and found that it does have an MEID #, which happens to be the same as the IMEI, but missing the last digit.
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
Yes, I know I still have some reading to do; I just got home and immediately posted because I couldn't wait!
maxh said:
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
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But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
martonikaj said:
But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
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I will if I have to, but I'm gonna try to make it work first. She's pretty happy with Page Plus (Verizon service) where she travels for work.
maxh said:
Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
martonikaj said:
How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
maxh said:
I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
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But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
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Of course it will. It does EVDO and LTE. Not everywhere has LTE yet. What I'm saying is why deal with EVDO (you'll never get LTE on Page Plus) when you could have HSPA+ with the GSM model.
martonikaj said:
But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
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Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
maxh said:
Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
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Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
maxh said:
It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research.
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If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
martonikaj said:
Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
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Thank you for taking the time to comment in my thread. I started it with hopes of generating conversation that could lead to clues on overcoming the hurdles of putting the GNex on Page Plus. I don't need suggestions for other courses of action; my girlfriend is very happy with Page Plus (and the Verizon network) where she travels for work. I wanted to get her a new phone, the best one that'll work on Page Plus, and I found a smoking deal on it so I bought it.
So what it won't achieve LTE speeds; there's still many other things to like about it, and nothing else will achieve LTE on Page Plus, either. It's a perfectly good plan; not everyone's willing to pay twice as much or more just for LTE, but may still want a top notch phone.
I'll give it a week or two then sell it if nobody can figure out diagnostics mode on it, but I have high hoped.
And if it took paying $50, it'd still be dirt cheap compared to going to Verizon! You'd make that money back and then some on the first month with Page Plus instead of Verizon!
CyberPunk7t9 said:
If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
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Oh, it'd move. Looking at completed listings on Ebay and craigslist offerings, I'm pretty sure it'd be snatched up rapidly at $300. $99 is with 2-year commitment and those subsidies tend to translate to street value around $350 (i.e. that's the discount you get for signing a contract.) Anyways, I have a habit of giving old devices to friends/family.
Edit: especially with the terms/conditions Amazon puts on top of Verizon's in the contracts...
Edit 2: of course neither I nor anyone else would have to sign a Verizon contract on this phone, since the original guy who got the subsidized price did it.
Anybody know anything more about this yet?
maxh said:
Anybody know anything more about this yet?
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I highly doubt anyone is doing much research on this, since it's such a rare request. Most people will just get the GSM model, if they do not want to use Verizon.
If you have a local shop willing to do this for you, I recommend contacting them - but I wouldn't pay a cent until you've verified functionality.
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Hi!
I am doing my own research too cause I too own a Verizon Galaxy nexus, and want to get it working with my local carrier in Mexico. Still looking to get it in diagnostic mode but wit no possitive results yet. As always, there will be a solution, but as things are going until now, it could take some time to appear.
And as yomuppet says, dont pay a cent until you see the thing workin!
I'd pay the 50 bucks to get it flash by that website or another site called beige something...
Otherwise you need CDMA workshop.
Look up HTC Thunderbolt on pageplus on these forums and you'll find a video on how to do it on that fone. I image it would be similar process for the sammy
did anyone ever get this working?
I totally understand original posters issue. I like the nexus and would like to get one but I too am a happy pageplus customer and would like to see if there's a way to make it work. Lame that people can't address the issue at hand but instead try to ridicule your decision. I tried setting up the droid charge (also a 4g lte phone) on pageplus but with no success - and ended up selling it. And yes, I walked into the verizon store and asked and they just gave me a sim card. but it still wouldn't register - and I also gave them the imei #minus the last digit. Too bad... I really like the new lte phones but I haven't seen many of then work on pageplus yet. If anyone figures it out, please post it here.

[Q] Verizon Wants to Take my Nexus?

I got my Nexus LTE on Wednesday, had it replaced on Friday, and now VZW wants to take it back all together. They are saying that Samsung is working on a fix on the phone, but now Verizon thinks its a Network issue?
Does any one have a Nexus that isn't dropping Data constantly? Is it a bad Batch of phones? Does anyone know what is going on?
The ones with data drops are the most vocal...
I, for one, find my GNex's signal to be COMPLETELY comparable to my Droid X.
I still get the same slightly-spotty service at work (center of a hospital...surrounded by lead to protect from the X-Ray Machines' radiation). Excellent service literally everywhere else I've been.
I'm also not experiencing ANY 4.0.4 deep-sleep related drops as many are.
Bad Batch
So, is there just a bad batch of phones out there? Because this seems that this has to be a hardware issue.With a certain amount of phones that went out.
Mine is working great, I had to have it warrantied twice before I got one that didn't drop signal randomly.
Seems like the ones made in Korea are your best bet for better signal. My China ones were horrible.
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I think my wife and i may both be having this issue with random signal drops while on 4G. 3G is solid as a rock. 4G drops and reconnects about every 3 minutes. Does that sound like hardware?
How do you tell where the phone is made?
i really think verizon hates this phone and doesnt really want to sell a nexus to people...
Talked to Verizon
So we are trying this one more time...
I talked to Verizon today, and the Tech person had the same phone and lived in my area and said she was not having any issues, which led her to believe it was Hardware and Software. She also said some razors are having the same issue, and if I switch phones I could have the same issue again. So, I am going to swap it out again and see what happens?
I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
siberslug said:
I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
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Did you just blame Verizon for a phone it sells?
They didn't touch the hardware or software of the device....
adrynalyne said:
Did you just blame Verizon for a phone it sells?
They didn't touch the hardware or software of the device....
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Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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Just because they are included in the CDMA/LTE version for Verizon, doesn't mean they touched anything on the OS side.
ZeroBarrier said:
Just because they are included in the CDMA/LTE version for Verizon, doesn't mean they touched anything on the OS side.
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I believe that the radios, and maybe a few other driver packages, are developed by verizon and only distributed by google when they package their releases. That's what the tiff a few months back was with the CDMA phones being "dropped" by AOSP, a licensing conflict with anything that interacts with the CDMA tech being tied down and not open source. The actual Android code is google's game, true, but it's not the only thing the phones run on.
So there's room for Verizon to screw up the way the phones run in the OTA packages.
siberslug said:
I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
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Just cause you're having issues with Verizon doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. Have fun being throttled on T-Moible's "4G" after you hit 2GB .
I've had nothing but exceeding standard service from Verizon reps. Only thing I hate is that it took Verizon forever to come out with this phone. And the updates take longer than GSM ones, but still, its faster than any other phone.
I actually don't mind the 2 apps they pre installed. I actually use My Verizon and I used to use Backup Assistant, a lot of people still use it.
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I got one that works
On my 3rd try i got a phone that works, at least I think it works. The agents said that it can't be a lot number on the phones, because the same lots give out good and bad phones. They also said the Razor is having the same issues. They just told me to keep this one on 3G only until the update Samsung is supposed to be sending comes out.
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On my 3rd try i got a phone that works, at least I think it works. The agents said that it can't be a lot number on the phones, because the same lots give out good and bad phones. They also said the Razor is having the same issues. They just told me to keep this one on 3G only until the update Samsung is supposed to be sending comes out.
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Glad to hear it worked out for you and you can finally enjoy the phone.
bill12690 said:
i really think verizon hates this phone and doesnt really want to sell a nexus to people...
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Even when I was getting my Sim and activating it, the rep didn't seem to happy about it lol
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VZW customer service is amazing
I have never had an issue where VZW customer service DIDN'T immediately suggest "let me send you a new phone" when I called with an issue. The only phone I've ever had with VZW where I didn't warranty replace a phone (in Droid X's case, FIVE TIMES before they finally sent me an X2) was my old Blackberry 8703e. I'm on my 2nd GNEX (after a bad screen/battery life/overheating issue with my first) and I can't imagine every having someone other than VZW. I mean, I get 20Mb/s D/L on 4G LTE and 10-15 upload...and no matter how much bandwidth I use (with my husband and I playing MMOs via my GNEX) we do not get throttled. It really isn't VZW's fault if there is some widespread hardware issue in some of the phones that shipped.
JoeSyr said:
I believe that the radios, and maybe a few other driver packages, are developed by verizon and only distributed by google when they package their releases. That's what the tiff a few months back was with the CDMA phones being "dropped" by AOSP, a licensing conflict with anything that interacts with the CDMA tech being tied down and not open source. The actual Android code is google's game, true, but it's not the only thing the phones run on.
So there's room for Verizon to screw up the way the phones run in the OTA packages.
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Nah. Even if every verizon file and app was bad, it would only have the effect of broken verizon apps.
DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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Let me say it again.
Verizon did not touch the software or hardware in this device.
Did they supply Google with some apks and libs? Sure they did. Do they affect ANY PART of operation?
Heck no.
Verizon outsources their app development, by the way. If Verizon had modified anything built by Google, it would have broken signatures. Guess what? Google signs our otas and they stay signed (otherwise we couldn't install them).

[Q] dinc replacment

What's a good replacement for the dinc
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What's a good replacement for the dinc
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I am waiting for the Nexus 4 to get back in stock. Going to run the BYOP Straight Talk plan on it. :good:
funny thing is that if you ask that question on a Dinc forum where people are still actively using and developing for the Dinc, the correct answer should be......another Dinc! lots of used ones on eBay for under 60$. Unlocked, Rooted, overclocked and running a better OS than Stock plus EXT4 fix makes this device still a usable device today.
but on a more serious note, me using the Dinc is tied into a couple of factors-that I am on Verizon and probably staying that way but might go to one of it;s derivatives like Pageplus Cellular. this keeps me in the CDMA/3G world for the time being so any replacement would have to be compatible.
seems like this question gets asked alot-what are some 3G VZW compatible phones out there? can you take a VZW phone and bring it to Straighttalk as easy as you can with Pageplus Cellular?
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funny thing is that if you ask that question on a Dinc forum where people are still actively using and developing for the Dinc, the correct answer should be......another Dinc! lots of used ones on eBay for under 60$. Unlocked, Rooted, overclocked and running a better OS than Stock plus EXT4 fix makes this device still a usable device today.
but on a more serious note, me using the Dinc is tied into a couple of factors-that I am on Verizon and probably staying that way but might go to one of it;s derivatives like Pageplus Cellular. this keeps me in the CDMA/3G world for the time being so any replacement would have to be compatible.
seems like this question gets asked alot-what are some 3G VZW compatible phones out there? can you take a VZW phone and bring it to Straighttalk as easy as you can with Pageplus Cellular?
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I am currently on Pageplus and don't have any complaints. I have looked around for a newer CDMA phone and the prices are crazy. The Nexus 4 is the best deal I have seen but I will have to switch to Straight Talk as it is GSM only. I don't think there is an option on Straight Talk to bring your own CDMA phone.
yes, that is my understanding on Straighttalk as well-they support sprint CDMA phones with some flashing or modification but it;s not easy. They want to push everyone to GSM.
So do you have a Dinc on pageplus? how is that working? was there any complications with getting it working on their service?
tekweezle said:
yes, that is my understanding on Straighttalk as well-they support sprint CDMA phones with some flashing or modification but it;s not easy. They want to push everyone to GSM.
So do you have a Dinc on pageplus? how is that working? was there any complications with getting it working on their service?
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Pageplus has been problem free for me. The website can occasionally be a pain to deal with when purchasing more minutes is my only complaint. The Dinc was a breeze to port and everything worked without any setup. If you need any info on Pageplus, go to http://www.howardforums.com/ and look up Pageplus. They have lots of info.
I have two Dinc's on Page Plus currently, no problems at all, OTA programming was all that was needed. I've activated a bunch of phones on PP over the years, for myself and for friends, and compared to the hacking you used to have to do on 'feature phones' to get WAP access working, Dincs are super easy. I've also done a few Droid X's and a Droid X2, also with no issues. Currently, newer phones, in addition to being quite expensive, are also 4G, which makes them a pain to activate on PP and usually requires some significant hacking. Definitely do your homework before buying a 4G phone with plans of activating it on PP.
It depends on your plans. If you plan on sticking with Verizon you could go with the Samsung GS3 or the Note 2 (I think Verizon has the Note 2). If large screens aren't your thing you can go with the HTC Incredible 4G or Motorola Razer M.
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just switched my GF feature phone on Pageplus Cellular to a Dinc I bought on eBay running CM10.1. happened easier than I expected as I was able to do everything via live chat without holding forever on the phone. text messaging seems to work including notifications. have it on the TNT 1200 plan, lets see if that will work for a month.

[Q] Help to root a Straight Talk GSIII?

Hi all,
I have been guided to this section regarding my Straight Talk Samsung Galaxy SIII because it's model number indicates it operates through Sprint. It is a SCH-S960L. I have had it for about a week. Came with 4.1.2. Does anyone have any information on how I can root this phone? I have searched everywhere and can't find any solid info about it.
I thank you ahead for any guidance you can give!
Lisa
Rooting for all S3 is pretty much the same. The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 has almost all the answers to questions you will have. #2 thing mentioned is rooting it will take you to the guide with video just watch the video several times read everything it's rather simple in less than 5 minutes you will have it rooted and custom recovery installed.
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Thanks for the response, Ed. I haven't heard much other info about rooting this, so I appreciate the info. Really don't want to brick it, but I also am anxious to get rooted and set it up the way I want it....
Lisa
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i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
eisawi99 said:
i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
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Actually I think ST runs off Sprint. This was what I was told. I have this model as well. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. There isnt much info around about the SCH-S960L
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you might be right but i remember a commercial saying that you get t mobiles national coverage... but you may be right
ST runs on the Sprint network.
actually, i looked it up and it appears it uses all major carriers... its a part of tracfone which makes it a subsidiary of a subsidiary... but tracfone has contracts with all major carriers
I was able to confirm this phone does run through Sprint, and got it rooted using Skunkape1's excellent rooting directions in the Sprint SG3 forum...
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did you rom it????????
ScrapHappy said:
I was able to confirm this phone does run through Sprint, and got it rooted using Skunkape1's excellent rooting directions in the Sprint SG3 forum...
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Yes the S3 through straight talk runs on sprint.... if you rooted, did you use a rom?
I bought my wife and daughter these phones through straight talk. The box had the red verizon map on it, and the network type is LTE/ cdma. I'm on regular verizon and can get LTE, but they can't.They stay on 3g most of the time. Sucks. But I am curious if you were able to find a rom to run after you rooted it? I'm not really satisfied with straight talk service. Family seems to have a lot more dropped calls than me. Anything that can make these phones more bearable would be nice.
eisawi99 said:
i beleive that youre phone is probably more related to the t-mobile variant since straight talk runs off of tmobile... check the model number under the battery
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Straight Talk doesn't "run" on T-mobile. Straight Talk is a Tracfone service, which depending on the specific device, runs on a variety of towers through a variety of companies. Verizon and At&t are the most commonly used towers.
Well, I finally gave up and put my family back on Verizon. Weird thing was when vz sales rep was swapping numbers, he put the straight talk phone info into the computer and it said the phone was using sprint and some verizon variant network for data.
Was wondering if anyone has ever found a rom to run on this phone. Friend wants the phone, but rooted.
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Was wondering if anyone has ever found a rom to run on this phone. Friend wants the phone, but rooted.
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I'm running everything (flashaholic) on my S960L. After I bricked I got it back to life and have been happily flashing since.
And yes, it does run off Sprint networks
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Yeah, I'll probably just sell it to him and be done with it. It's a shame straight talk didn't work out for me. Might have better coverage in a city. But where I live, it's crap.
Now on Verizon
The FIRST GS3 offered by Straight Talk WAS on the Sprint network. But after S/T got absolutely blasted by upset customers (and POTENTIAL customers) they finally pulled their heads out of their butts and now they offer a CDMA-V variant...that's VERIZON for those who don't know the codes. There is a code on the lower left corner of the packaging that will say CDMA-S (Sprint), CDMA-V (Verizon) and GSM which will be either T-Mobile or AT&T (not sure of the codes after the GSM as I'm not familiar with those, but the person in electronics would (should) know if you ask).
So now you can have one of the best phones on the market, behind only the S4, on Verizon's network. I got this phone the day after the Black Friday sales, and it still rang up at the sale price of $299. I was prepared to pay the regular price of $399 so you can imagine my surprise and delight when it rang up at the sale price. So what if it only has 3G. I constantly hear people complaining about this fact, so they can either have their 4G LTE on Sprint and get no coverage, or have a contract and pay 3 times what I pay, or have one of the best phones out there with 3G and $45 a month for everything unlimited on the best network with no contract. The choice seems obvious to me. And I'm an ex-Verizon contract customer. Our bill was just too high. I'm happy to pay more for a phone with no contract.
Now, hopefully somebody can answer my question...would it be the same process to root this phone as the one on the Sprint network? Is there any possibility you could screw up your phone with no chance of recovery? I would like to root my phone but I do not want to be in a situation where I'm looking at my phone with a blank screen and no way to recover, or it won't turn on or it changes to Japanese...etc...you get what I'm asking. If there's any risk I'm not going to do it, it just wouldn't seem worth it to me. But if it's something that it works or doesn't and no in between then I would like to try it. Thank you for any advice.
Wow! Great advice
edfunkycold said:
Rooting for all S3 is pretty much the same. The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38172219 has almost all the answers to questions you will have. #2 thing mentioned is rooting it will take you to the guide with video just watch the video several times read everything it's rather simple in less than 5 minutes you will have it rooted and custom recovery installed.
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Wow! Top answer here. Too bad it was a complete fail for the straight talk version.

[Q] How to unlock Note 4 from Sprint

Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
ali.sulaiman1980 said:
Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
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on what carrier you are planing to use it? You cannot use sprint Galaxy note 4 on domestic GSM carriers like AT&T, T-mobile and their MVNOs (Straighttalk , etc). The phone can be unlocked for international GSM use (voice and 3G only, not LTE). Internationla unlock can be done officially through Sprint or unofficially via app in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...print-samsung-unlocker-unlock-sprint-t2928250
My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
Im curious too.
Can a Sprint phone be unlocked and set up for use on ANY other carrier in the USA,
ie: Verizon?
No no no
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I am pretty sure that if the phone had a clean ESN that you can activate it on Ting Mobile. I have also saw a thread where someone had flashed a T-Mobile Rom to the Sprint note 4 but they where not getting LTE of course I'm sure in time someone will come out with something stable.
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My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
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Off topic here.
I came up for upgrade in June. I was gonna go Nexus 5 and then the Nexus 6 rumors started to fly. So I waited and along came the Note 4. After much research I ended up with arguably the best phone on the planet. Imo it is.
Unlock Code
I am in Canada, got this as xmas gift from my father in law
You can root and try Galaxy Tools 4 root users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idone.galaxymenu
Or you can use this app from the S5 thread you don't need root with this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2928250
Hope this helps a little
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sliverr7x said:
No no no
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So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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Which question would you like answered?
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Which question would you like answered?
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How about you answer what you can. Starbucks
see. I just answered your question,
so take a stab at answering too...
even if its a wrong answer, id like to hear .
thanks
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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1. No
2. Customers can switch devices by calling on a different phone to CS or going into store and switch devices, no unlocking necessary.
3. Just switch Sim cards and edit and tweak where necessary or pay someone if you dont know how.
4. Correct, but no unlocking necessary.
5. That depends on the person.
Thank you for your answers
sliverr7x said:
No no no
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Yes yes yes it can be used with other carriers in the USA. Are people forgetting about flashing of modems and firmware. What decade are we in 1960? Our maybe 1950 when phone were still two way radios. Remember sprint can't stop everything Samsung does in making their phone. Ask the right questions to right people get right answer. If someone in XDA hasn't figured it out yet just wait & keep on looking. XDA is also not the only place to look for answers to everything Samsung, sometimes Samsung is were to look or Samsung blogs. All I hear is everyone that talks about Samsung first thing everyone says is it CAN'T be done. When are the tech, crackers, & hackers of this world going to stop saying everything is impossible & realize we are the ones that make everything possible. If we are going to do that why do we become techs or crackers or hackers or even developers in the every first place?.... LET'S STOP PUTTING LIMITS ON OU OURSELVES & SHOW SPRING WHAT WE CAN DO! Sprint is not GODZ. We created what sprint & Every carrier in the world uses to try to put limitations one everyone with. Are we going to let the carriers use or phones against us or are we going to use them the way the phone manufactures wanted the phones to be used ( without restrictions of the carriers of the world.)
after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
rscooldesire said:
after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
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Umm if its not under payments u can
Yep once the phone is paid for per new laws that went active in Feb or March if you ask the carrier to domestic unlock your phone they are required to do it by law. Some models this will not be possible but the note 4 should. I think the carriers have a grace period to make this available. Not sure how long. I could quote the legislation but Id have to search for it.
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B to the S. If you can unlock a 720t a note 4 can be unlocked!! Period!! It picks up signal just no antenna for that signal because the phone antenna is tuned in the wrong station or radius degree. I think if the people who can unlock 720t s can try the same methods with busy box or Verizon modems. Like guy said earlier " Si se puede"!! It can be done!! Just need to tweak frequency angles and remove face security options a little.
By law you can have it unlocked for a limited time, but that will not make the LTE radio magically work on your carriers band unless they support the same band. Or unless you know someone who can JTAG flash the radio to another carrier as well you will not be able to use the LTE/DATA band on a carrier that does not support the frequency. This is nothing something that can be done over USB or by a new kernel. This will have to be done with JTAG and by someone who has access to the various carriers radio firmware which is tightly guarded. So basically you will be using a Note 4 on 3G only. Might as well just sign up with SPRINT then, you will get the same service speed.

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