I want to know if I will forever lose the ability to install stock updates once I root my device. Can I "unroot" it in the future to seamlessly install stock updates? I don't want to mess with this too much as I want to rely on it for notes.
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
litetaker said:
If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
litetaker said:
Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
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I don't have an answer for you unfortunately as my use of s note is very basic. I hope someone else can answer your questions.
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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litetaker said:
I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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What did you do?
CASz said:
Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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I don't know what the ToolKit does or what else you used it to do or what else you did with the system after rooting, but just plain root does not alter the system. Even apps like Adfree that modify the hosts file don't cause the system to be altered. If you remove system APKs though, that will do it. Like I said, I am still rooted despite all of the updates that I received. And I do not temp unroot prior to searching for updates, I temp unroot once the update is already downloaded.
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What did you do?
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My concern was how to obtain a custom background for the notes in S-note. I did it using the "change background" feature but I did so with the "memo" template. And the memo template doesn't have certain features like inserting images, audio memo etc. Given that I am new to Samsung and touchwiz I was unaware about this. I fixed this "problem" by putting my custom background on one of the other templates...
The only other thing I need root for is for removing Ads. BUT, thankfully there is the "Adblockplus" android app on their website that allows me to do this WITHOUT root! :highfive: On Android, nothing is impossible!
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I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
thx
athosk said:
I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
thx
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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When that happened to me, I couldn't even use Kies to recover so I used the ToolKit and triangle away to get a stock ROM on it.
I have the same problem. As far as I know I've only done a standard root, but OTA says the device has been modified and Kies says my firmware version doesn't support upgrading. Obviously something has modified something
As I'm in Australia we probably won't get a 4.2.2 upgrade anyway so at the moment I wouldn't have anything to upgrade to even if I could...
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You Can Do It
CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you first use supersu option to unroot you can can get ota. Been there done that.
There is a post on this forum somewhere. Can't remember where, but it can be done if you follow the instruction in the post.
Do a search of the forums to find it. It's there!
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What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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So I have stock 2.2... rooted.... and I removed verizon crapware.
I just got the notification that an update is ready for me? this is the one that contains the verizon app store... as well as I think a new kernel.
Is it safe to install? would it even install? If I did would I lose root?
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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thehoovie said:
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
If you let it try to restart and install the update ClockworkMod will deny it, and the notification will go away for a while (either one day or one week, I can't remember).
I got the notification an hour or so ago on myn's warm twopointtwo.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
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Some one might be better able to explain root vs. S-OFF than I but ill give it a try.
Root is for your operating system. It's like in winblows having administrator privileges so you can execute high level commands, modify system settings, etc...
S-OFF allows for your phones bootloader (like a PCs BIOS) to flash unsigned files. So, if we do get an update that removes root, we can flash a custom recovery program, to then install a ROM that does have or can be rooted.
Do a backup. I don't think the update will install or stop bugging you to do it. You should be able to modify your build prop to stop the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9123362&postcount=9
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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+1 for this, I just want to install this for the sake of being up-to-date. I need my precious root, though.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
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Why can't you look in the VCast store otherwise? If your phone is not the newest version then it won't have access to it?
Yeah... I would actually love to be able to install this... Especially since if I read correctly I would keep root.
As for the bloat, I can just remove it like the other bloat...
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I want this update but I'm on virtuous 3.1 and didn't get it... I want the apps and what not
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Mostly because I'd like to be able to check my vCast stats and comments from my phone, plus I think it's a good idea to be a user of the service if I'm selling apps on it.
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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I'm in the same situation, rooted original Incredible with Clockwork
This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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I'd like those bug fixes, but it's not worth losing root :/
So it looks like someone will need to grab the OTA update... and repackage it as an update.zip for clockwork
Yesterday I received a message from Tmobile that there is a new software update for my phone. I was at work and did not want to bother with it so I tried to say not to the update and the only option is to postpone for a maximum of 1 day. To get out of the message I selected the home key. I keep getting the reminder every 4 hours and the message will not go away from notifications drop down screen.
Tmobile seems very eager to push this update out, I rooted my phone about a month ago so I could use the tethering feature when I'm on call without the extra expense, also used Titanium to freeze the bloatware apps as well. Will this software update affect or undo my root access? Does anyone know if the update is good or bad?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Yes you will lose root but it can be rooted easily using the same method. This question has been answered over and over try searching a bit.
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Thank you for the information I did see threads on the subject but they were on older software updates.I did not run across one that talked about this latest update, I did not know if there was something different or if the the new update made it difficult to re-root. Some updates may only be beneficial to Tmobile and not the end user. Does anyone have the specifics on the update? Pros and Cons?
I'd like to know if the update is worth it as well.
My phone is currently rooted but I was not the one who did it so I'm afraid to lose root because I wouldn't know how to re-root it.
Is there a way to update without losing root?
I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
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I went ahead and updated my phone and it did not undo root. It is a software update that will allow u to upgrade to ICS.
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You sure about that? If updating to the UVLDE 2.3.6 GB via OTA, I am pretty sure you lost root. You probably still have the super user app installed, but that in and of itself does not ensure root. Try using a app that requires root access such as Titanium Backup.
Ok, I have tried to follow a couple of root guides here in the forums, this one, both on Mac and Win7 (via Bootcamp). I get the device rooted but the, almost immediately, I get Android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly after the newest OTA. The error comes almost directly after the last update {Build number: IMM76D.I747UCALH9}.
I am interested in root to be able to install Google Now over S-Voice, Google Wallet over Isis and I would like to de-bloat the ROM. If I can also get CWM on there for occasional ROM backups that would be cool too. But I also want the newest update as it contains the one thing I really longed for in the stock TouchWiz ROM... Screen brightness from the Notifications menu.
Can anyone offer a point in the right direction for me?? I have rooted a Nexus before, but I tell ya, Non Nexus devices are a different ball game HAHA.
There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.
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There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.
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Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.
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Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.
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I can confirm it works on lh9, i am running it now and used voodoo to restore root.
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...you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing.
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I'm pretty sure I updated the stock unrooted rom before deciding to rooting, like I'm sure it was a good 24-48 hrs before I decided to root. Anyway, I guess I'll go back to the drawing board and do some research.
Thanks for post though!
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
buhohitr said:
What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
haofeng93 said:
Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
buhohitr said:
OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
haofeng93 said:
Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
buhohitr said:
Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Yeah, I did read the instructions. It was just a moment of stupidity on my behalf, completely forgot I'd frozen the stock keyboard. I'll leave a little longer and then reboot.
buhohitr said:
Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
haofeng93 said:
Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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You need to remove the SuperSu app by go to playstore search for Supersu then you should see the uninstall option. The OTA failed probably because it detected that you have modified the system. You need to think what you did to your system and revert back before try again. I would just use towelroot app and reroot then unfreeze any frozen apps, then uninstall then try again. If you can't remembered what you did and the OTA stills failing, then the next step is use Odin and flash factory firmware either 4.3 or 4.4. Remember to read my instructions before and ask if in doubt before taken any action. After you re-root, make sure you use Titanium to run a full backup of all your userapps. if you don't want to be bother, then just use Odin to flash either 4.3 or 4.4 but you need to re setup and re-download all your apps.