Is Sony cheating us?? - Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion

Hi to all Sony xperia users. I was playing with my wife's micromax canvas hd phone and surprised to see its total ram exactly about 1 gb with the same screen resolution as of ours xperia s whereas in xperia s it's very low around 700 mb. Against claimed 1gb by Sony. Anyone have a explanation or their views about this?
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Amount of free ram depends on the chipset the device uses.
None of Micromax devices use snapdragon chipsets.
While our Xperia S uses snapdragon s3 chipset and it requires that 300 MB reserved for GPU.
So you get around 700 MB for apps.
Newer chipset has reduced memory requirement for GPU like the one in Xperia Z which requires less than 200 MB.
One more example,
My laptop has 4 GB of RAM but out of that 1 GB is reserved for system and i only get 3GB Ram as usable memory.

~300mb of ram are used by system or something like that

the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid

franklin93 said:
the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid
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Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag

yUlekk said:
Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag
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It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing

franklin93 said:
It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing
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As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..

sudhindrakv said:
As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..
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I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed

franklin93 said:
I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed
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Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..

sudhindrakv said:
Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..
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So sony did give it a royal treatment before killing it.thats glad to hear its really a flagship even now,for me.never slowed down.awesome phone

Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:

mithab said:
Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:
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U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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cool, you are using Existence?

Dodofant said:
cool, you are using Existence?
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Stock was smooth, but eXistenZ is way too fast..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.

mithab said:
Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.
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Ondemand and Conservative will do.. It gave me good battery and decent performance.. for good performance, u can use performance governors itself..

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[Q] would you recommend me buy an xperia arc s? why?

Hi, I'm an user of an old xperia x8 and I'm thinking in upgrade to an Arc S but I need to know a few things before, like battery life and smoothness of UI in GB and ICS (I'm not planing to install custom kernel/rom).
I've watched some reviews on youtube but the only thing I see there is people scrolling through settings, app drawer, etc... I need to know how it behave in daily use based on your experiences... I hope you can help me
thanks
best regards
What is your budget first of all?
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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4 days???!!!!
what rom and kernel are you using?
overclocked?
what governor and scheduler?
LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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could you please define what does normal use mean for you if the same as for me (gmail sync on, some emails.. 15-25 as i use them instead of sms mainly, little bit of gaming like 30 minutes per day, maybe 15 minutes of talking and a couple of sms messages) then your results are astonishing... with such usage my phone struggles to stay unpluged for 20hrs.
anyway, as it was asked, on what rom and settings?!?!
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
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Well i would not recommend arc s at this moment.. i accept it is a great phone looks great but its a bit outdated at this moment.. i would ask you to buy a xperia nxt series phone..
And samsung looks ugly in my opinion.. you can also check out htc one v..
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darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
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i am sure it can handle that much of load for a day..samsung sucks..yesterday had a fight on S2 forum on the same topic..got a warning from Forum Mod too
It would be wise for now to go for Xperia P or U considering the same price as Arc S..
If you desire much for Arc S,then simply go for it!
+1 for Samsung sucks!
+1 for the same. Lol.
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Battery of arc s is I think 12 hours if u use these things n tht is enough
None phone give like tht with WiFi n 3 g
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 4DAYS
HOW COME??????????????
ArmorD said:
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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Who said so?
GB with Arconium has a terribly smooth experience!
The same with battery, i get about a whole day with a single charge which is more than enough for me and most of the people!
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This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
Tbh, the Xperia s is good, but not a huge leap from the arc. Dual core is used to imply better performance, but it's the context that matters. If microsecond improvements in response really matter then go for an Xperia s, but don't look for a huge difference in performance overall then unless you're a huge gaming freak with no PSP the difference will be negligible.
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Shetz said:
This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
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Well he said so tat his budget would be lik in a Arc S range only!
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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mandarjoshiin said:
I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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now.i.feel said:
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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Yeah of course, + 1 for Sony,
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Defective Ion?

Not sure if this is just how the phone is or if mine's defective. If anyone isn't having the following issues PLEASE reply so I can call up Sony and hopefully get a new one if this isn't the norm.
-Phone gets pretty hot, I know the phone's back is metal but it's hot enough to worry about imo. Happens when I've got a large file downloading or playing games like Modern Combat 3. Just to note I kill all background tasks quite often and especially before playing a game.
-Touch screen is buggy and requires a hard reset to fix. After MC3 crashing twice on me my screen became nearly unresponsive and if it did register anything it'd bug out.
-When listening to music it sorta drops out every once in a while, equivalent to a CD skipping? Idk how else to really put it.
Thanks in advance!
Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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ninja08 said:
Well over heating is common in android phones. Mines reach 49 degrees Celsius while playing minecraft. But for the other issues, they seem like memory issues
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Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.
SU1CiDE said:
Memory as in CPU usage than this phone needs to be rooted badly, memory as in free space shouldn't be an issue, I've got gigs of space on both the internal and external SD cards.
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CPU. I agree this phone does need it.
ninja08 said:
CPU. I agree this phone does need it.
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Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly
SU1CiDE said:
Is 200 M really that bad? I've never seen it go below that. And I had an Aria that ran down to like 75 M sometimes and it didn't affect it that badly
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shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
however, you can try using an app called "system panel." set up the monitor function and see which app is doing the wrong thing
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shouldn't be the cpu. my x10 is always below 30mb XD
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I definitely have a defective Ion then. I just repaired the phone through the SUS so I'll have to see how that works out.
0000alex0000 said:
btw, don't use any task killers. they won't help but only mess up the way your phone works.
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What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.
SU1CiDE said:
What makes you say that? Just curious 'cause the task killer I have always used has helped all my phones so far. My (extremely low spec btw) HTC Aria only worked so well because of it.
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http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I guess the Ion is one of the phones they have a negative effect on, thanks for that.

New antutu bench marks!

Hey guys so on the new antutu bench marks what are the devices that are getting like 25000? And they are not even overclocked? I have my note 2 overclocked to 1.9 ghz and my best so far is 20092
what kernel goes up to 1.9 ghz?
i am running jedi x4 rom with bulletkernal : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982322
jakebake said:
Hey guys so on the new antutu bench marks what are the devices that are getting like 25000? And they are not even overclocked? I have my note 2 overclocked to 1.9 ghz and my best so far is 20092
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18073 stock here. 20092 overclocked seems reasonable.
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18073 stock here. 20092 overclocked seems reasonable.
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it does but if you compare it to the other scores the tops are like around 25000 and at 1.5 ghz but doesnt say what devices
It's the Chinese only Xiaomi Mi2. Google it.
http://android-sale.com/xiaomi-m2-1ghz-mt6575-cpu-5mp-camera-android-phone.html
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it does but if you compare it to the other scores the tops are like around 25000 and at 1.5 ghz but doesnt say what devices
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my antutu shows the T899 only going up to around your score. the 25000 scores are all Mi2's.
theoilman said:
my antutu shows the T899 only going up to around your score. the 25000 scores are all Mi2's.
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i know I was wondering what the phone was that was getting so high lol. How do you guys see what it is? Although the specs of that phone do not seem to be better
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i know I was wondering what the phone was that was getting so high lol. How do you guys see what it is?
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it's the Xiaomi Mi2. I would have gotten one of those if I hadn't fallen in love with the huge screen on the note 2.
Mi2 has S4 pro chip & 2GB RAM- it definitely is more powerful than the note 2. note2's awesome screen still makes it a more enjoyable experience IMO though.
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i know I was wondering what the phone was that was getting so high lol. How do you guys see what it is? Although the specs of that phone do not seem to be better
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erg nevermind... i see it now lol didnt realize that was a phone name
the only thing better on the M2 is its processor compared to our note everything else about it sucks lol except the price
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the only thing better on the M2 is its processor compared to our note everything else about it sucks lol except the price
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everything else sucks? the only thing on it that sucks is no expandable storage (and screen size, but that's 100% personal preference). lack of SD card is the only thing that sucks about the Mi2- otherwise it's an amazing phone.
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everything else sucks? the only thing on it that sucks is no expandable storage (and screen size, but that's 100% personal preference). lack of SD card is the only thing that sucks about the Mi2- otherwise it's an amazing phone.
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tiny battery, bad camera, iphone ui copy (miui copied ios (i know its supposed to but they did it too much )
haldi15 said:
tiny battery, bad camera, iphone ui copy (miui copied ios (i know its supposed to but they did it too much )
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MIUI is great- better than touchwiz for sure. better than iOS too. I'd very happily use MIUI on my note 2 if they could work multi-screen support into it. battery is replaceable and they sell a 3100mAh version for it. camera I have not tried so I can't say.
It isnt better than touchwiz on this phone...I dont think miui has spen support, multiview or anything like that
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It isnt better than touchwiz on this phone...I dont think miui has spen support, multiview or anything like that
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shouldn't be hard to bake those features into MIUI at all. and there's nothing besides that that makes touchwiz better IMO.

[Q] Ram usage

Hi im planning on buying note 3 neo. what I saw was the ram usage is very high. 1.5gb/1.7 (aprrox)
will this cause problems and can this be reduced?
yap,the ram quite high.but overall performance is good.
its a good buy.
siddharth.srivastava said:
Hi im planning on buying note 3 neo. what I saw was the ram usage is very high. 1.5gb/1.7 (aprrox)
will this cause problems and can this be reduced?
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ram is high.. bt used memory is mostly high n free memory is less and the hardware reserved memory is high that is mostly depend on d kernel and rom.. and less ram available bec of oom value is smartly adjust to utlize most part of ram.. btw ubcn get more available ram in future android relese... like kitkat as i tld every rom n kernel has its own requirment to reserve ram.. and i think there is some memory leaks issue also wid d current rom. bt it will b resolved soon.. in new kk update so its a good buy never faced speed issue
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thanks guys. Im gonna buy this then. btw any info on custom roms?
siddharth.srivastava said:
thanks guys. Im gonna buy this then. btw any info on custom roms?
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this phone is just launched.. i mean its new.. just in feb it got relesed... so as ler my expriance coustom roms never come out soo soon... after 6 7 month atleast we hav to wait till d devs will show intrest as per reqst and we all kw that this phone got a very good haddware.. so devs will soon support for this phone let the phone get more populat.. till than enjoy rooted xposed.. rom and ya u can de Bolt the rom.. i will soon make a de bloatware 4 our rom.. and soon i will also relese the recomended apps module scripts 4 our Neo... all tips n tricks coming soon... by me
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this phone is just launched.. i mean its new.. just in feb it got relesed... so as ler my expriance coustom roms never come out soo soon... after 6 7 month atleast we hav to wait till d devs will show intrest as per reqst and we all kw that this phone got a very good haddware.. so devs will soon support for this phone let the phone get more populat.. till than enjoy rooted xposed.. rom and ya u can de Bolt the rom.. i will soon make a de bloatware 4 our rom.. and soon i will also relese the recomended apps module scripts 4 our Neo... all tips n tricks coming soon... by me
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alrighty. whats de bolt? kinda new I just know about rooting and flashing new roms
also I heard Samsung's Knox is a real pain
siddharth.srivastava said:
alrighty. whats de bolt? kinda new I just know about rooting and flashing new roms
also I heard Samsung's Knox is a real pain
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Think he meant debloat, as in uninstall some of the crapware that comes with the phone.
oh ok. rooting wont cause the knox to trip right? why did samsung put knox -.-
siddharth.srivastava said:
oh ok. rooting wont cause the knox to trip right? why did samsung put knox -.-
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not sure and would like an answer to this as well.
siddharth.srivastava said:
oh ok. rooting wont cause the knox to trip right? why did samsung put knox -.-
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Rooting using existing method (flashing cfauto root via Download mode) will trip knox as it was not signed by Samsung. Be warned!
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siddharth.srivastava said:
Hi im planning on buying note 3 neo. what I saw was the ram usage is very high. 1.5gb/1.7 (aprrox)
will this cause problems and can this be reduced?
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Ram using can be solved by disabling apps you don't use in Application Manager. You can find a list of stuff you can safely disable. Worst case if there are issues re-enable them. This can be done without rooting. With root you have even more options to reduce ram.
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oh ok. rooting wont cause the knox to trip right? why did samsung put knox -.-
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bro samsung is keeps trying to do such kind of non sence security stuffs as new new phones will comes u will c more worst Sean more worst than knox bec samsung ppl know ppl do rooting than do mostly do RND and spoil there phones and come to service center and the pressure of SS increases and bec of that other genuine ppl who r nt rooted who comes to SS they need 2 wait i mean its totally fair with them bt not for US .. knox is a kind of cloud VM also when all the apps r in private mode and separate from the actual user etc but its waste i guess there is no use but the main part is knox comes with the bootloder and the worst part is it stays on the core files of the device mostly in firmware file which til now we didnt reach as soon as we reach there we will be able to reset or trip knox value also but till yet there is no way to access that hidden part still waiting for the Trip but apart from the knox pain am lucky :angel: bec ma frnd works in samsung SS :silly: so ma warranty :victory: is not void yet heheehehe i cn go to ss ny time :victory:
Ram usage can be controlled easily..
Disable the bloat and you'll be fine!
Im not rooted and my static ram usage is close to 0.9-1gb/1.7gb..
But yeah.. I choose my apps wisely too..
thanks for helping, everyone.
peRFect! said:
Ram usage can be controlled easily..
Disable the bloat and you'll be fine!
Im not rooted and my static ram usage is close to 0.9-1gb/1.7gb..
But yeah.. I choose my apps wisely too..
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I've used the Note 3 Neo as my daily driver for a month now and I've noticed that ram usage doesn't go higher than around 1.2gb used. Usage overall is smooth, haven't noticed any real lag of sorts. I have disabled some of the bloat and I'm not rooted either. The only problem I have is with the official twitter app when ram usage gets to that 1.2gb used ranged where typing becomes really laggy (I'm using Google AOSP keyboard from the Play store), but it could just be the twitter app. When that apps I have to use the built-in TW task-killer to free up memory. Not the worst.
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I've used the Note 3 Neo as my daily driver for a month now and I've noticed that ram usage doesn't go higher than around 1.2gb used. Usage overall is smooth, haven't noticed any real lag of sorts. I have disabled some of the bloat and I'm not rooted either. The only problem I have is with the official twitter app when ram usage gets to that 1.2gb used ranged where typing becomes really laggy (I'm using Google AOSP keyboard from the Play store), but it could just be the twitter app. When that apps I have to use the built-in TW task-killer to free up memory. Not the worst.
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Ive not noticed any input lag issues.. maybe it's ur twitter app only.. only time ive seen lag is in the status bar in saavn app, so I guess the latest update of the app is creating issues.. all things said and done, this phone is great and im really enjoying the experience.. and for the first time Ive no urge to root the phone!
Guys I know it's totally off topic but does this have gorilla glass? ive searched someplace it says it has but others say it doesn't
siddharth.srivastava said:
Guys I know it's totally off topic but does this have gorilla glass? ive searched someplace it says it has but others say it doesn't
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I have called samsung support they said that the screen is scratch resistant but there is no official confirmation about gorilla glass.
I asked in the sammy smart cafe and they said it does have Gorilla glass 2 and also told me that it is a sammy policy that every amoled screen made by sammy has Gorilla glass!
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I asked in the sammy smart cafe and they said it does have Gorilla glass 2 and also told me that it is a sammy policy that every amoled screen made by sammy has Gorilla glass!
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I have called samsung support they said that the screen is scratch resistant but there is no official confirmation about gorilla glass.
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ok I checked the corninggorillaglass.com note 3 neo Isnt listed there
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Ive not noticed any input lag issues.. maybe it's ur twitter app only.. only time ive seen lag is in the status bar in saavn app, so I guess the latest update of the app is creating issues.. all things said and done, this phone is great and im really enjoying the experience.. and for the first time Ive no urge to root the phone!
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Yup, only the official twitter app has problems - but like I said not the end of the world when typing in the app starts to lag. But, overall, phone is really good with nary a lag I've noticed. I'm really liking the hexacore Exynos chip in the phone (LTE version at least).
It replaced my Nexus 4 as my daily driver (having access to an SD card again, so niiice) - considering how stable and smooth it is on stock 4.3, I'm not sure if I want to even upgrade the phone to 4.4.2 whenever it comes out. lol.

Game Performance (Thinking of Selling)

Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
prinzhernan said:
Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
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I bought the 551 with 4 gig RAM, and 64 gig HDD. I came from the note 4 edge and haven't looked back. If you let me know what games specifically you are playing I can test them out, but this phone hasn't even broken a sweat for anything I need it to do.
prinzhernan said:
Hi. I bought the 551 version with 2gb ram and 16gb memory a few days ago. So far the experience has been good. I'm just having problems running the game I regularly play, Crusaders Quest. It slows down to a crawl at times specially if I don't reboot my phone. I'm thinking it's a ram problem. Maybe I should get the 4gb ram one? Or it won't make a difference? Or is it the limitations of the GPU? Should I just switch to the nexus 5 instead?
Appreciate if you guys would chime in before I decide to sell the phone over the weekend. Thanks.
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should be related to memory leak in android 5.0.1.. 2gb ram was never enough if memory leak is not fixed..4gb version still can manage and handle the leak, no solution so far unless you root it and install xposed fix memory leak module which also helped me in my case..other than that, just wait till asus push higher version of android such as 5.1 that was said to have better memory management..
3r0k said:
I bought the 551 with 4 gig RAM, and 64 gig HDD. I came from the note 4 edge and haven't looked back. If you let me know what games specifically you are playing I can test them out, but this phone hasn't even broken a sweat for anything I need it to do.
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Could you try playing crusaders quest please. I'd like to know the performance before I get the 4gb one one later.
cangcan said:
should be related to memory leak in android 5.0.1.. 2gb ram was never enough if memory leak is not fixed..4gb version still can manage and handle the leak, no solution so far unless you root it and install xposed fix memory leak module which also helped me in my case..other than that, just wait till asus push higher version of android such as 5.1 that was said to have better memory management..
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Thanks for the explanation. Didn't know a about that since my last android device was kitkat and it was a tablet.
just tried it on my 4gb 1.83ghz zenfone 2. zero lag with the game, but boy that in game graphic is terrible.
jdaclutch said:
just tried it on my 4gb 1.83ghz zenfone 2. zero lag with the game, but boy that in game graphic is terrible.
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Thanks a lot man. Haha. You mean by terrible, the graphics look like 8bit Gameboy or whatnot? It's really like that and I like games like that. Did you go to the actual battle?
Could be throttling due to temps. Its highly unlikely this game is slowing down due to RAM/GPU/CPU unless the device is throttling. What's your ambient temperature there?
Chinaphonearena said:
Could be throttling due to temps. Its highly unlikely this game is slowing down due to RAM/GPU/CPU unless the device is throttling. What's your ambient temperature there?
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It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
prinzhernan said:
It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
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Yea. That's hot, man. Your phone is likely throttling.
The issue with it closing when multitasking is a Asus kernel setting issue. Check your free RAM. I don't believe its a 5.0 leak issue. The leak manifests itself differently than this.
The 4gb version will help with apps closing, but not with the throttling. The Zenfone 2 is beyond powerful enough to run this game.
40°C is still cool enough..i think i remember that i read somewhere before, zenfone kernel started to throttle cpu when it reach 55°c, correct me if im wrong..but unlike my samsung S3, when using lollipop custom rom the temperature usually stays on 40-47°C while using the phone, so phone like this powerful zf2 should not have any problem even on 40°C..but just my two cent yet, anything can be a problem on this phone, unless they update in to newer lollipop and unlock BL so developer may help to improve the kernel and rom level of zf2..
prinzhernan said:
It's around 40 degrees Celsius here. So you really think it's not a ram problem? When I run the game I can't even multi task. If I leave the app when I go back to it, it relaunches.
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its the problem of low free ram only,dont worry.I guess after updating to latest 5.1 x64bit lollipop...it wont have ram issues hopefully,and this prob only in 2gb,4gb can easily kill anyother phone interms of multitasking
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40°C is still cool enough..i think i remember that i read somewhere before, zenfone kernel started to throttle cpu when it reach 55°c, correct me if im wrong..but unlike my samsung S3, when using lollipop custom rom the temperature usually stays on 40-47°C while using the phone, so phone like this powerful zf2 should not have any problem even on 40°C..but just my two cent yet, anything can be a problem on this phone, unless they update in to newer lollipop and unlock BL so developer may help to improve the kernel and rom level of zf2..
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40c is his ambient temperature, man... Not the temp of the phone.
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ansebovi said:
its the problem of low free ram only,dont worry.I guess after updating to latest 5.1 x64bit lollipop...it wont have ram issues hopefully,and this prob only in 2gb,4gb can easily kill anyother phone interms of multitasking
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Yes, you'll have far fewer RAM issues with 4gb. I thought you were having other issues, according to your OP.
prinzhernan said:
Thanks a lot man. Haha. You mean by terrible, the graphics look like 8bit Gameboy or whatnot? It's really like that and I like games like that. Did you go to the actual battle?
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yes, can't stand that 8bit graphic, didn't even want to get into the actual battle because of the graphic...the phone itself is fine.
I do find this phone heats up more than others I've used....would like to find a custom back, something that would allow greater airflow for gaming. If you play a heavy game, just pop the case off and let the extra airflow through.
Hi All, I was playing contest of champion from kabam, my problem is that when I just launch the game it look really nice in full HD graphic, and after 2 games when the heat goes up, no more HD , and when play after about 1/2 hour the graphic start choppy or even stuck in some point. anyone having the same problem ? Thanks
This might be because zf2 has 64-bit processor running with 32-bit lollipop......32-bit won't handle 64-bit efficiently
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According to anandtech's review, the Zenfone 2 is not affected by throttling issues. Maybe the game you want to play is not x86 friendly and the slowdowns are because of binary translation (ARM emulation).
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Stephen 26 said:
This might be because zf2 has 64-bit processor running with 32-bit lollipop......32-bit won't handle 64-bit efficiently
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it's not 32bit lollipop, CPU Z clearly says the kernel is 64 bit. plus, how can a 32bit OS manage 4 gb of RAM?
Buk-Lau said:
it's not 32bit lollipop, CPU Z clearly says the kernel is 64 bit. plus, how can a 32bit OS manage 4 gb of RAM?
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It could.
That said yes, it's a 64b version. Even about phone will show x86_64.
40C Yep, ambient temp and that's HOT -> phone starts OUT AT 40C, so pretty much ANY stress on it's going to hit thermal throttling PDQ.

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