[Help] Disable knox Bootloader 《no0b》 - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can any one tell me that. ..how to disable knox Bootloader from 4.3 ..... I recently updated my phone 4.1.2 to 4.3
Now I want to install custom rom....what I have to do?
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Skywalker676 said:
Can any one tell me that. ..how to disable knox Bootloader from 4.3 ..... I recently updated my phone 4.1.2 to 4.3
Now I want to install custom rom....what I have to do?
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You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.

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dalanik said:
You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.
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If knox bit set to 1
it mean my warrenty is voided?

Skywalker676 said:
If knox bit set to 1
it mean my warrenty is voided?
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Of course! Samsung has a strong excuse to void your warranty.

dalanik said:
You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.
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If I've already lost warranty, how do I get rid of the bootloader?

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Root without Knox Trigger has been achieved....for AT&T

Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
mightykc said:
Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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shin lucifer said:
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
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I believe this is correct, rooting a device and flashing custom firmware is completely different.
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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I dont think so. Because we are starting with unlock BL to being with. So the system that is rooting the device take advantage of it, which automatically trips Knox. That's just me conjecturing.
Just wait abit, the phone just came out. I am sure some one will figure out what/how is knox working exactly. Also if you worried about warranty there are plenty of 3rd party warranties available.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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I am with you
dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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thinkjoey said:
I am with you
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I think the warranty getting void is the problem for some. Not having an option to go back so you can use the warranty is the problem. So if some thing go wrong people can't use Company warranty because they will know thanks to Knox B.S. And can refuse any help/repair.
I have heard that only Samsung checks the knox flag, so T-Mobile and asurion are just fine if it is otherwise stock
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I use the phone for work. I need to have Knox in good status
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I hope you're right.
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My understanding is that the current rooting for our phone voids the Knox warranty because it installs a custom recovery. If there was a way to follow similar procedures as the Att variant we could have root with valid knox warranty. Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
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the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
I'd love to get this for the T-mobile version - all I want to do is root only so I can change the DPI and use some xposed modules. If I can do this without triggering the Knox flag, that would be great.
I hope a dev out there is willing to look into this.
unlockingsky said:
Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
unlockingsky said:
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
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Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
Candleclack said:
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
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Yeah, it's unfortunate.
There's actually a big discussion about this over in the S4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=46
I myself am luck that I never updated my bootloader or anything, Knox Counter doesn't show on my Bootloader. (I have the T-Mobile S4, by the way, not the Note 3.)
lawalty said:
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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I think there is a way to root note3 without triggering the Knox just like the att note3. But once Knox is triggered there is no way to go back.
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[Q] Upgrading to 4.3... some questions beforehand

Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
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Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.
Yes lol
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Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*

Buying S4 need help

So I may be buying a S4 soon but I need help understanding how know works with the s4. I have the tmobile s3, and I was already rooted so have yet to upgrade to 4.3 bootloader. What do I do if I buy a 4.3 S4? will it be easy to root, unknox, etc? will I be gauranteed to lose warantee and not be able to return to factory conditions? All answers are appreciated, Thank you!
This thread is good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441229
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Android_Monsters said:
This thread is good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441229
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that guide was written before the 4.3 update, since then a knox counter has been implemented which cannot be reset and therefore will most likely void warranty...
Was just wondering if there is a way to avoid setting off that counter
aamir123 said:
that guide was written before the 4.3 update, since then a knox counter has been implemented which cannot be reset and therefore will most likely void warranty...
Was just wondering if there is a way to avoid setting off that counter
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Yes you're right about the Knox counter. Unfortunately there's no way to reset the counter right now. Beside those few things you can root and flash 4.3 custom Rom (cannot flash 4.2.2)
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Yes you're right about the Knox counter. Unfortunately there's no way to reset the counter right now. Beside those few things you can root and flash 4.3 custom Rom (cannot flash 4.2.2)
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I guess my question is what if I buy a galaxy s4 with stock 4.3 updated via ota? When I root will I be automatically be stuck with a triggered knox counter or does rooting alone not affect the knox counter? Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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I guess my question is what if I buy a galaxy s4 with stock 4.3 updated via ota? When I root will I be automatically be stuck with a triggered knox counter or does rooting alone not affect the knox counter? Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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As far as I know, rooting DOES trip the knox counter. If you can find one that's still on 4.2.2 (MDL or MDB) I'd go with that one. At least with one that's still on 4.2.2 you can reset the flash counter (knox counter is irrelevant on the m919 on pre-4.3 official) and still have the freedom to use 4.2.2 ROMs if you so desired.

[Q] [Q.] What can done with Knox bootloader?

I've googled, and googled myself into a dizzy spell
wt?
I need some clearer understandings once more for a spinning brain please.
I was so ready to chef it up for this phone,
figured i get to the latest firmware and start from there, there had to be a way to revert it if any..
tisk tisk.. speeding i hit this freggin obnoxious knox case
now what i am asking is for a bit of intel..
what can i do to get around this and get to really building again for this phone ( SCH-i435 ) besides get a new one?
I brought it back from a brick with the help of a few but now i wanna customize my way,
can i flash a modded kernel?
recovery?
rom?
really, what can i do? if i can't do much I gotta get a new phone, lol.
Thanks in Advance
I am not sure cause I have ran into the same problem. I think once time Knox is tripped you might be able to flash from Odin. Maybe a new bootloader can be flashed, one workout Knox on it but not shore still trying to research it.
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I am not sure cause I have ran into the same problem. I think once time Knox is tripped you might be able to flash from Odin. Maybe a new bootloader can be flashed, one workout Knox on it but not shore still trying to research it.
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it seems to differ between devices but that's what i mean by i need a clearer picture. I'll build it but what do i have to build around and how or what needs to be done to accomplish custom roms on a knoxed up device?
So with knox there's no custom recovery or rom? Has to be a way!?! Right? Help..
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justlovejoy said:
it seems to differ between devices but that's what i mean by i need a clearer picture. I'll build it but what do i have to build around and how or what needs to be done to accomplish custom roms on a knoxed up device?
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Yea if you haven't tripped your knox
You can flash from Odin I believe
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Yea if you haven't tripped your knox
You can flash from Odin I believe
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Knox is tripped x01
though i have heard much about it voiding warranty but idc bout that, I wanna be customatic already.. so what is this you mentioned that i could flash if i didn't trip it already? thanks for replying as well
You can root using kinko, or saferoot without tripping the knox and flash your recovery thru Odin.
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You can root using kinko, or saferoot without tripping the knox and flash your recovery thru Odin.
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youve done this? custom recovery with knox?
sch-i435? verizon
I've rooted with kinko but when I flashed my recovery it tripped the knox, for me anyways. From what I read theirs are fine. My tripped knox may be because I didn't use Odin to flash my r recovery, not sure.
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I've rooted with kinko but when I flashed my recovery it tripped the knox, for me anyways. From what I read theirs are fine. My tripped knox may be because I didn't use Odin to flash my r recovery, not sure.
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So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
....and the only way to flash a rom stock is by ODIN , it work !!! ( official stock signed work fine with Knox flag tripped 0-1 ! ) and for example with these official site ====> http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ good:
but with Flag tripped too ,i belive that the bootloader Knox security is "definitively" OUT and Knox don't work cleanly ==> not important at all !!! completely Useless ......we are not politicians,militaries ,in the FBI,NSA,CIA ,business .....who need "very" strong sécurity ! it's "too much"
....and last android version have SElinux security (efficient and sufficient ! )
Flag tripped is a very big confusion with waranty because for example in Europe with laws: the manufacturer Samsung must support on SAV rooted phones ! ...... but Samsung is out-of law (illegal ! ) to refuse phone with official stock rom ROOTED only (because flag tripped) !!! Damn...
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hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
....and the only way to flash a rom stock is by ODIN , it work !!! ( official stock signed work fine with Knox flag tripped 0-1 ! ) and for example with these official site ====> http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ good:
but with Flag tripped too ,i belive that the bootloader Knox security is "definitively" OUT and Knox don't work cleanly ==> not important at all !!! completely Useless ......we are not politicians,militaries ,in the FBI,NSA,CIA ,business .....who need "very" strong sécurity ! it's "too much"
....and last android version have SElinux security (efficient and sufficient ! )
Flag tripped is a very big confusion with waranty because for example in Europe with laws: the manufacturer Samsung must support on SAV rooted phones ! ...... but Samsung is out-of law (illegal ! ) to refuse phone with official stock rom ROOTED only (because flag tripped) !!! Damn...
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For starters, Thanks!
2 begin:
So what you're saying is that with knox tripped you can't flash custom Rom or recovery or kernel
But with knox installed as long as not tripped one can flash away?
I'm asking cause I love to build my custom Roms for personal use and unless I'm just off with my code I can't seem to flash a custom kernel via odin or get a working recovery going yet. Stopped trying as hard cause I thought knox was in my way. But if I can go head to building I'll get back to it right now, lol.
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yes ..... no !
i have said about stock officials firmware !
with odin ,all work ! as usual , we can flash CWM ...and after customs rom with .zip ......i have said that we "can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!"
And you can build stock with last update ,but without Knox bootloader too ( easy for a dev ) for to update !
(example with my french forum : http://www.phonandroid.com/forum/li...msung-galaxy-s4-mini-lte-gt-i9195-t78266.html )
BUT !!! if some people update the old bootloader with the new one (with Knox) .....it's too late !!!! definitive ...
no solution for backup old recovery , impossible ! ( like reset the Knox )
It seems that it's not an "e-fuse" (spéculation ! ) ,but a script written somewhere on the bootloader , "read only" protected with a code .
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hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
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When I first rooted my S4 mini duos with a kernel that gave root but didn't support my wifi, it set the KNOX flag (should have researched better). The thing is that to recover wifi (and lose the root) I used Kies to download and restore firmware. Kies allowed me to do so and "repaired" my phone without much issue. (Of course, the warranty void bit was still set even I after I fixed the phone with KIES) I think the warranty bit is just to tell the service people that you flashed something in the past, and doesn't block KIES or other operations.
The Knox *software* (not the boot loader) , however, does do some stuff that makes it harder to have fun with your phone , like blocking rooted apps unless you disable it.
As others have said, the Knox bootloader is only a counter; a flag to let Samsung know that you have a non stock kernel.
I have an I9192 and rooted with saferoot. Didnt trip knox. I then flashed TWRP which did give me a 0x1 on Knox. I am not worried about the warranty, so no big deal. I have a stock ROM....MK4. All aspects of my phone work fine.
justlovejoy said:
So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
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At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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justlovejoy said:
So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
silentscreamz said:
At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
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You mean custom with the lock on boot
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silentscreamz said:
At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
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Yea custom but I could flash at one point. Now just stuck on the triangle
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Well I'm off the next couple days hopefully I'll figure something out. I'm experiencing build errors, wanted to ask orca86 for some help but he's not accepting pm's. Not sure of who else to ask. Think I know what to do to fix but would rather some input before attempting cause it'll be my phone first.. I'm sorry we don't have the device's source code yet cause that would help a lot. I can't wait to get us Rockingham! Lol
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More power to you man! I'd love to see some custom love.
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Disabling Apps..

Does anyone have a recommendation list of which apps are safe to disable please?.
rirawin said:
Does anyone have a recommendation list of which apps are safe to disable please?.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514703
I know it says for galaxy s4 but the apk's are the same.
blimey so much bloatware.
I wish I could root it, but sounds difficult.
rirawin said:
blimey so much bloatware.
I wish I could root it, but sounds difficult.
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Root is easy so long as you don't mind breaking the warranty.
Quick & easy, for the P600 model:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
22sl22 said:
Root is easy so long as you don't mind breaking the warranty.
Quick & easy, for the P600 model:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
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Thank you, however, I have knox installed.
Would I be able to go back to official firmware and unroot?.
Plus how do Samsung know you rooted your tablet?.
rirawin said:
Thank you, however, I have knox installed.
Would I be able to go back to official firmware and unroot?.
Plus how do Samsung know you rooted your tablet?.
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There is a knox counter which, when stock is 0X0. When rooted, the counter is tripped and goes to 0X1. There is no way to undo this and samsung will know.
You can always go back to stock by flashing stock firmware at anytime
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There is a knox counter which, when stock is 0X0. When rooted, the counter is tripped and goes to 0X1. There is no way to undo this and samsung will know.
You can always go back to stock by flashing stock firmware at anytime
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Ah a fellow Uker.
I be tempted to root only so I can have apps like Sketchbook in window mode, however, since I just brought it I probably not bother yet.

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