REVIEW: HTC One battery case - Mugen Power 3,000 mAh black battery case - CC-HTCONESL - One (M7) Accessories

I originally posted this on another forum, but i thought i would post it here too. I have had great success with this companies products for all of my HTC Phones. I have used their products in both my Tmobile G2 and HTC Evo 3d and now since they don't offer an internal battery for the HTC One i had to try the case.
This is my review of the Mugen Power 3,000 mAh battery case. The model number is CC-HTCONESL. This case is the smaller one in their lineup at 3,000 mAh they also have 5,000 mAh case and each version comes in either white or black.
I have been using this case myself since Nov 5th now and i have been extensively putting it through performance tests making sure it has repeatable and reliable performance. So far it has been great, but more on the performance details later.
Here are some pictures of the case itself. You can see the writing on the inside of the case which shows the input and output amperage of the case. It will take longer to charge on a power source of less than 1 amp of output, but works fine if that is all you have.
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Here you can see the packaging card and the back of the case with the 4 blue led indicators as well as the button to check the state of charge. The case has perfect cut outs for the camera and flash, as well as one for the upper microphone. Call quality appears normal with the case in use.
Here is the other side of the packaging card with the information on it.
The case simply charges with the same charger you use to charge your HTC smartphone with a micro usb port. You can even leave the case plugged into your phone and charge the case and phone with 1 charger. The case will first charge your phone fully, then charge the case. If you have two chargers, you can simultaneously charge the case and phone if your are short on time.
The case features features 4 blue LED lights for checking the state of charge of the build in Li-Polymer battery pack. It has a red led light near the micro usb port indicating the case is charging and the light will turn green when the case is full.
The case is very simple, you lay your phone into the case and gently press it into place. The phone is charged through a hidden micro usb port that lines up with the phone. The wire and micro usb tip will tuck back into the shell of the case with only the end sticking out for easy retrieval. The wire extends approximately 1 inch from the case. Bonus, you could use this case to charge any micro usb device in an emergency!
You can see a picture of the side of the case with the phone installed. The HTC One is very slim on its own so most all of the extra thickness comes from the case itself, which is not too bad. It still slides into my pocket easier and now is easier to hold because it has more weight to it. I found myself always feeling like i was going to drop the phone without a case due to the light weight and skinny form factor.
I don't have any calipers handy for a precise measurement, but i noticed the case was just a little slimmer than a US nickel. A nickel is 0.835 inches in diameter so i would estimate the total thickness of the case with the phone install at about 0.8 inches.
Here is the sim card side of the phone with the nickel.
Here is a shot of the side of the phone with the case installed. After i looked at the picture i just took, i noticed the phone was not pushed all the way into the case but it still holds firmly even if not pressed fully. I have attempted to hold the case and shake it as hard as i could and the phone will not dislodge, but dropping the phone could certainly cause that.
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Here is the sim card side of the same setup. Sim card is fully accessible with case installed.
Top of the phone with case. Headphone jack is fully accessible with case installed.
Bottom charging port is fully accessible and bottom microphone is fully open too.
PERFORMANCE!!
Okay now my favorite part the performance side of the case. This was by far the biggest reason i got the case. You can say what you want about the looks of the case, or how it leaves the front of the phone unprotected, but performance is what its all about.
I tested the case many different ways but to eliminate some variables the way i typically charged the case was to put the phone into air plane mode after reaching near 0% and let it do its thing. I have the Battery Bot Pro app installed on my phone which is very handy.
The first shot you will see is a screenshot from my device after charging with the case for just under an hour (57 minutes) The case is able to charge the device up to 40% in this short time. You can see the phone thinks its getting an "AC" charge even though this is a DC source, this is a good indication that the device is delivering the indicted 1 amp of charge rate.
I left the phone alone awhile longer and came back to it at 68% after 1 hour and 42 minutes of charging.
The last shot is of the case fully depleted from a full charge. It was able to charge my device from 2% all the way up to 87% in only 2.4 hours! The voltage on the battery ended over 4.20v, while a full charge on this device is closer to 4.35v.
I am very happy with the performance of the case. I have been using it daily since Nov 5th and It was able to repeatedly charge my phone from near 0% all the way up to 85-88% over and over again. Even though this is a 3,000 mAh capacity battery in the case you are going to lose a lot through the electrical efficiency since its charging the same type of battery and has to step up to 5 volts. This type of efficiency is typical of battery cases and nothing abnormal here.
A more typical usage of the case would probably be to plug it before it was close to dead and unplug the port when the battery is depleted or when you have gotten enough charge to make it through the day so you can leave your port protected inside the case .
PROS: Power on the go, protection to the back and side of the phone, Uses the same charger as your phone, battery indication for state of charge, fast charge rate, leaves all the ports and opening on the phone available, makes phone easier to hold, ability to charge other micro usb devices in emergency
CONS: Leaves the front face of the phone open to damage if dropped, micro usb port is vulnerable when plugged into the phone and on the go, possibility of damage if rough
Summary: A case for true power users, who love the HTC One but can't make it through the day without needing a little extra juice! Casual users would be more suited to using a full protection case that offers front bezel protection.
The case is available directly from Mugen for 89.50 with free worldwide shipping and tracking included in that price.
Links to product for purchase.
http://mugenpoweronline.com/zaspx/p...eNo=&sortby=sortid&orderby=desc&keyword=N9005
Face Book Page: https://www.facebook.com/power.mugen.5

http://mugenpoweronline.com/zaspx/p...&sortby=sortid&orderby=desc&keyword=CC-HTCONE
There is the direct link guys sorry I forgot to add it earlier.

3000 Mah. good but this case seems too big: (

serif55 said:
3000 Mah. good but this case seems too big: (
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Well its not as big as the larger 5,000 mAh version they make but remember your phone is no good to you dead, so having power when you need it beats comfort with a brick. The mophie juice pack looks pretty sweet, even though its rated less, i only use about half of my Mugen case to make it through my long 12 hour work day. I might get a Mophie too!

901-Memphis said:
Well its not as big as the larger 5,000 mAh version they make but remember your phone is no good to you dead, so having power when you need it beats comfort with a brick. The mophie juice pack looks pretty sweet, even though its rated less, i only use about half of my Mugen case to make it through my long 12 hour work day. I might get a Mophie too!
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nice review..very detail.. hope u would also give some review if/when u have mophie..

I also ordered this model in white color only. Parcel will arrive next week. To be honest, I'm disappointed! When ordered, the Mugen Power has not posted photos of the place of connection. Connect your phone so awful plug I do not like!

Miha2e said:
I also ordered this model in white color only. Parcel will arrive next week. To be honest, I'm disappointed! When ordered, the Mugen Power has not posted photos of the place of connection. Connect your phone so awful plug I do not like!
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It's a little different i understand, but it's useful that it can be used on other devices if you needed to even though the wire is short. Hopefully you enjoy the extra run time away from the wall though.
lately with mine i have been waiting til my phone gets to about 50% and hooking up the wire and leaving it in my pocket while at work so it can get a decent charge for a hour or two and then i have enough to make it through the day.

That's basically how I use my Mophie. I wait for my One to drop to 20%, connect the Mophie, it'll boost it back up to about 85%, disconnect the Mophie, have battery life until midnight.
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jlczl said:
That's basically how I use my Mophie. I wait for my One to drop to 20%, connect the Mophie, it'll boost it back up to about 85%, disconnect the Mophie, have battery life until midnight.
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on a serious note, isnt it a disgrace that we have to do this, just put a better battery in in the first place ffs

gsusx said:
on a serious note, isn't it a disgrace that we have to do this, just put a better battery in in the first place ffs
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The One comes with a 2,300 mAh Li-Po battery which is already pretty stout compared to other phones even the stock galaxy s4 battery is only 2,600 Lithium ion, so not too far off. It's mostly the high power consumption off all the high performance hardware that's killing battery life. People who use the phones for basic things like calling/texting report pretty good battery life in powersaver mode.
I do wish the battery would last longer, but this is going to be a problem for anyone using the phone for high consumption apps.

Great review. Handy product, i.e. if you're going camping this should last atleast a weekend with moderate use

With me working 12+ hours per day I don't know how I would manage without the extra juice. I use a lot of juice just on my breaks but also weak signals or nothing signals drain it too, and if refuse to use airplane mode after I've missed important messages in the past.

I highly recommend this battery back, I got one and so did my friend. We went disappointed at all.

Related

3200mAh Li_poly Extended Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia X10

I have the 3200mAh Li_poly Extended Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
I've had it for about 7 months or so and it's awesomeness.
On my x10a 2.3.3gb 0.3gb Xrecovery
-----Do Not Charge new Battery first just use it normally right out of the box.----
--------------------Read how to recharge to 100% 4211mV below-----------------------------------------
My Battery Stats Li-poly 3200mAh 4211mV 91.4/33.0c at 100%.
Temp does not change until it's below 10ish% Battery but I have never seen it above 93F an only when I'm gaming at 10% Battery. My old Battery would get up to 104f at 100% Battery on some game/video play
No heat problems it stays at 91.4 even when I play some cpu/power hungry games.
Everything is on all the time cpu at preformance/3gH+/wifi/gps/sync/weather widgets/live wallpaper/auto display.
( My best time 2ds.15hrs.27ms that was down to 2% battery).
But the norm it about 2 days ish that is while playing.
Games
Music/videos
News/videos
sms mms/pics
Calls
Surfing/web/app Markets
You know just the usual stuff.
I can even watch 2 Netflix movies on 3gh+ an only use 30ish% of the battery with everything on.
------------------Don't use any battery apps to Calibrate.---------------------------------
( I've tryed them all, they just screw things up and they will not charge to 4211mV)
just use the phone until it's down to 1% then recharge it to 100%. It takes about 4.5 to 5 hours.
( you can let the phone turn it self off if you want but is not necessary.)
If you notice that it doesn't last as long as it did, then do this.
---------Try apps below to check charge and voltage--
The only reason you have to do this is because your phone has a battery test minimum of 70% that's why you get readings like 65 to 93% after recharging this way.
To get it to 4211mV again try (the way) below.
(Not Necessary Way but if it makes you feel better)
Charge your phone to 100%.
1a.(In Xrecovery, go to Advanced options/Wipe Battery Stats.
2a.Take the battery out. ( wait 2 or 3 seconds)
3a.Plug in charger to phone.
4a.With charger plugged in to phone ( and phone Off ) Put the Battery back in.
Then use this below from then on.
(The Way)
1.Charge your phone to 100%.
2.Unplug charger.
3.Turn off the phone.
4.Take the battery out. ( wait 2 or 3 seconds )
5.Plug in charger to phone.
6.With charger plugged in to phone ( and phone Off ) Put the Battery back in.
7.Phone will boot up in Charge mode With only the battery animation.
8.When that battery animation goes out you can power up the phone.
9.Once the phone boots up, you will notice that the battery percentage is around 65 to 93% instead of 100%.
10. Charge the phone back up to 100%. (in doesn't take very long to 100%)
(03/12/12 Update) I don't seem to have to do this below anymore) It will charge to 100%/4211mV in about 4.5ish hours.
11. You can repeat this until it's at 100% as many times as you need.
(I only have to do it once to get it to 100% 4211mV)
I have had this Battery for about 7 months and I only have to do this maybe once a month if that.
I've used both these apps for more then a year and a half an they both are small an have worked great. And their alot better then the stock "idiot light" like you get in a cheap car. lol
They both do a'heck allot more then just check battery stats.
OS Monitor by eolwral for free: this is an awesome app for free I'd pay 2 or 3 bucks for it an you'll see what I mean if you try it to.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor
SystemPanel App / Task Manager by NextApp, Inc. there's one for free but I use the paid versions which help support the Developers and more options:
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwyLDEsIm5leHRhcHAuc3lzdGVtcGFuZWwucjEiXQ..
If you turn them on at boot their in the notification pull down and status bar real nice.
I got my Battery from Ebay for like 12$usa delivered from Hong Kong in 9-days
From soowhoob2010
"FYI"
You can use a small light tooth file to clean the two openings because they are real small, They are on the left side, That is on all the covers.
It doubled the sound on my stock cover so I did it on the new one an glued some speaker cloth on the in side to keep it clean. Works an looks great.
To use your old battery with the new back plate just find a spacer pretty much anything will work of the same size as new battery.
extended battery for xperia x10
sir can you please tell how many hours this battery lasts if we put brightness to full and watch hd movies or play hd games continually and what about web browsing time.
great guide. i've been using this battery for a long time too (i switched from stock battery about 1 month in, i found it incredibly annoying having to conserve my battery). Anyhow here's my battery life. (Everytime i turned it on was to play a bit of little empire)
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If i'm not on Wifi the phone only drops to about 80% after a day.
Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries can be damaged by charging and holding them at 100% charge, which is why phones are designed to "bleed off" to 90-95% even while plugged in and charging.
Bypassing this safety system can ruin your batteries and potentially your phone if there is a leak. Continually forcing the phone to re-calibrate in this fashion can bypass this system.
Just a friendly warning.
jekostas said:
Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries can be damaged by charging and holding them at 100% charge, which is why phones are designed to "bleed off" to 90-95% even while plugged in and charging.
Bypassing this safety system can ruin your batteries and potentially your phone if there is a leak. Continually forcing the phone to re-calibrate in this fashion can bypass this system.
Just a friendly warning.
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+1
and you get rebooting issue all the time even at 100%.
and after that,buy a new one
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heh I wanted this battery too, but then i got a new phone
wow!! impressive for 12bucks!!
when i see deals like this i usually feel something suspicious, but this sounds like very interesting and worth testing!!
Bought this.
So far seems to be working great!
And I really don't mind the bulk since I have long fingers
Patricks_book said:
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Using the same voltage bump i used for my optimization guide.
Well done.
Just got one of ebay, its 3600mah and really working great, followed your advice for charging. The back cover is a good quality with rubberish feeling (like the stock one) and fits nicely. Its also harder to get it off compaired with the stock one. I will buy a 2nd one as i'm going on a big trip. I tried other fake batteries before with the same MAH like the stock one and they were crap. I can recommend this bulky battery to everyone who's looking for some extra battery time.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280870827415?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Elaba said:
Just got one of ebay, its 3600mah and really working great, followed your advice for charging. The back cover is a good quality with rubberish feeling (like the stock one) and fits nicely. Its also harder to get it off compaired with the stock one. I will buy a 2nd one as i'm going on a big trip. I tried other fake batteries before with the same MAH like the stock one and they were crap. I can recommend this bulky battery to everyone who's looking for some extra battery time.
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Interesting.
The 3200 one I got got all plastic back cover. At lease my white version.
Might try this black one too!
Picture someone?
Can anyone post a picture of the x10 with this cover? Is it really big?
2300 mAh battery for xperia x10i
Yes it becomes 5mm thicker than the existing one. I don't know about the backup time. you can google it
Goods... i like this.
Thanks for the little review, I was looking for accessories like this one to improve the greatness of my phone
I got the same looking battery but with 3600mah. Have been using it about 2 months. I can tell it lasts more then double then my original battery. For example, i use my phone mainly for mp3 player at my work. Listening dayly around 8 hours at a volume of 80%. With about 1hour of internet usage. At night it goes in flightmode and lasts around 3 days like this. My original battery needed to be charged every day at 35% left. I already bought a 2nd battery, will come in handy on traveling. I got used having a thicker and heavier phone, but its really worth the extra battery life. The rear cover feels good and strong.
btw, my data connection and wifi are managed with juicedefender and go on and off every hour.
Hi,
I also got the extended battery and love it.
My issue is that I want a cover that can fit the phone......any suggestions.
Thanks.
very interested in one of these, i found same battery but i need white cover.
can anyone post some photos of the xperia with this new thicker cover on?
armstrong12 said:
Hi,
I also got the extended battery and love it.
My issue is that I want a cover that can fit the phone......any suggestions.
Thanks.
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I haven't seen any seperate back covers for extended batteries for sale, i guess you need to buy them in a combo with the battery.
If i have the time i'll try to post up some pictures of mine.

Review of Anker Astro Slim3 6000 mAh external battery and stand w/lots of pics!!!

This is a review of Anker Astro Slim3 6000 mAh external battery: http://www.ianker.com/product/79AN7909-BA and Anker Multi-angle stand: http://www.ianker.com/product/77ANSTAND-SA
It has been awhile since I posted a review in Nexus 7 section of the forum since Note 2 is my homebase. But considering extremely thin design of this external battery slice and a tablet stand - this makes it a perfect companion for N7. Of course, battery is universal and stand can be used with a tablet or a smartphone.
I have been a huge fan of Anker external batteries, reviewed a lot of their products, and always impressed with a quality and 18-months warranty. Another great thing about these - constant refresh with updated design and increased capacity. Battery cells are slimming down, efficiency of capacity improving, and I'm glad Anker keeps up with all these changes.. Slim line is very unique since it offers one of the thinnest available external batteries with a built in usb cable/connector and a very decent capacity! In comparison to Slim2, this one increased a little bit in length and weight, but still at 134 mm x 70 mm x 12 mm and 155g of weight - it's super slim and portable to carry it with you in a pocket. The battery case itself is very sturdy, feels no flex, and with a matte finish and rubber material around the edge perimeter - makes it very comfortable to hold. Charging input of the battery is micro-usb port which also serves as a storage for one of the outputs with an attached cable and micro-usb connector. In addition, there is full usb port output. The input is rated at 0.8A which means it will take about 6-7 hours to fully charge this battery from empty, while both of the output ports are rated at 1A each which means you will get a full charging speed from those. And while you are charging the battery, or using it to charge your device, you have 4 leds indicating battery capacity in increments of 25%. I also would like to mention that although built-in cable with micro-usb connector is great and means one less cable to worry about, the connector itself is kind of thick and might not work with every case. That's where the 2nd full size usb charging port comes in very handy!
The performance of this battery was really impressive too. As you know the total capacity of the battery is not the actual capacity because of loses through conversion from internal cells through 5V usb interface. External batteries usually loose 30% of its rating by the time it gets to the tablet/smartphone internal battery. In case of Astro Slim3, I ran multiple charger/discharge cycles and on average found that you can actually get up to 4800 mAh of the charging capacity. That is 80% efficiency which is very impressive. I looked up reviews of other Slim3 users and saw people reporting similar results which is consistent with my testing. But often you have to set your device on a surface to plug in battery for recharge. Carrying both together is not very convenient. With Slim 3 you can actually do that with ease. I'm using book-cover case where I can wedge the battery and continue using my tablet while it's charging up. You can see it clearly from the pictures below. That setup is very convenient, especially if you are playing power draining games or watching a movie, or in general when you don't have time to wait for battery of your tablet/smartphone to charge up. In my opinion, this battery is a must have considering its portability and high capacity.
The pictures are below.
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In addition, I'm also reviewing Anker multi-angle adjustable stand. It has a very nice weight (172g), support surface of about 4" x 3", adjustable angle (push the side button for adjustment), and a very elegant sturdy design with lots of rubber padding. It can accommodate both landscape and portrait orientation. I do have to mention that for some smart devices with a thicker case, the opening in the stand might not be wide enough which could be fixed easily by removing inner rubber padding to expand the space. So for example, naked Nexus 7 fits without any problem. With a thicker case you can remove inner rubber lining of the stand to make more room. Great product as well!
Here are the pics.
Nice reviews! I've been a fan of Anker products since I came across them about a year ago. I own numerous car/home chargers made by them.
I've been wanting a battery pack/charger for some time but there are so many sizes/types/brands available it makes my head hurt.
Thanks for helping me narrow down the choices a bit!
Angus66 said:
Nice reviews! I've been a fan of Anker products since I came across them about a year ago. I own numerous car/home chargers made by them.
I've been wanting a battery pack/charger for some time but there are so many sizes/types/brands available it makes my head hurt.
Thanks for helping me narrow down the choices a bit!
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Grab a beer, and head over to my complete review section in the link of the signature Actually, that will not help you much with narrowing stuff down since I have dozens of external batteries in there, but at least reviews will give you more details
Great reviews! I'm considering buying the Anker Slim3, since I just broke my Slim 2 (don't carry it in your back pocket while on a 2-hour drive). Would you be able to get a picture of it next to a smartphone? I've got the HTC One and I'd like to be able to see how it compares in size. The Slim 2 was great, and the only time I ran it dry was when I lent it out to three other people who had dead phones. Of course, theirs were a lot smaller in size.
Actually, you mentioned the Slim 2 in your review, maybe a picture with one on top of the other? I'm just terrible at visualizing the size of things from measurements.
Nice reviews, by the way i like your desk.
The Astro Slim3 6000 mAh finally came back in stock so I ordered one to try out.
One thing I'm liking about this battery over others is the finish. A majority of the battery packs available currently (including many by Anker themselves) have a glossy finish which is extremely scratch prone. I prefer a matte finish for both aesthetics and grip.
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Thanks for quick review, I've just ordered 4 of them (Astro Slim3 6000) for a whole family
My Slim3 6000 mAh arrived today. I like how it arrived with ~ 75% charge already. Î like the finish and it feels solid/well made. Thanks again for the review!
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I'm looking for a pull tab case for said battery, anyone know which one will fit?
The battery is the size of LG 4X (4.7"), but thicker. If anyone uses one already, please suggest one, otherwise I'll go to a store and try all of them out.
So anker size is : 5.3 x 2.7 x 0.47
The closest I've found so far is Lumia 920 at 5.13 x 2.79 x 0.42. Do you think it would fit?
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none fit. I went to a store and tried every single one of them and except for the one made for Note, all were too small. The Note one, however, was too big.
Angus66 said:
My Slim3 6000 mAh arrived today. I like how it arrived with ~ 75% charge already. Î like the finish and it feels solid/well made. Thanks again for the review!
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My Astro 3E came fully charged. That's good because it takes a long time to charge otherwise (one night to charge one quadrant)
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razor5cl said:
My Astro 3E came fully charged. That's good because it takes a long time to charge otherwise (one night to charge one quadrant)
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Thats really wierd, it has 6A capacity, input rate is 1A so if you charge it with charger >1A, it should take no longer then 6 hours (add one for good measure), trough USB port (0,5A), it should theoretically take 12 hours to charge.
Yeah when I say night I meant sort of 6-8 hours. That's still around 20 hours for the whole thing, but who cares when I can charge two phones at once, twice!
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razor5cl said:
Yeah when I say night I meant sort of 6-8 hours. That's still around 20 hours for the whole thing, but who cares when I can charge two phones at once, twice!
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And when I say 6hrs I mean fully charge, not just 25%. It's weird that it takes so long...
I haven't had to recharge mine just yet (I'm mostly home until october), so I don't know exactly. But yes, it should hold enough capacity to charge 4 phones
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So I fully charged the Lumia 720 (2000mAh battery), half of Arc S and half Nexus 7 and Anker was drained. It did however fully recharge in less then 12 hours (I plugged it in around 19.00 and left it until next morning when it was full) so not even close to 20 hours. I was charging it with >1A charger, maybe you were charging it on the computer USB port (500mA) in which case yes, it takes forever.
So what do you think of these results I documented with my Slim 3 ?????
After unboxing my brand new Anker Slim 3, I fully charged it, fully discharged it, and fully charged it again.
I wanted to test the new Slim 3 to see it's charge times, and capacity, so I chose a weekend day so I would have very little usage of my phone.
I proceeded to cycle through fully draining, then recharging, my Motorola Photon Q LTE's internal 1785mah battery until the Anker Slim 3 was fully depleted.
- 11:30 AM Saturday: Anker Slim 3 fully charged and Motorola Photon Q LTE @ 9% @ 11:30am
- 1:39 PM Saturday Photon Q LTE charged to 100%. Anker Slim3 has 3 shining dots left (2:09 hours of charging)
- 12:00 AM Sunday Motorola Photon Q LTE at 4%. Slim 3 is strangely at 2 shining dots. (although, it had 3 dots when I unplugged it last from the Photon Q) (Motorola Photon Q LTE discharges 96% in 10:21 hours)
- 2:15 AM Sunday: Motorola Photon Q LTE at 100%. Slim 3 at 1 shining dot. (2:15 hours of charging)
(Motorola Photon Q LTE discharges 25% down to 75% battery life while sitting on a dresser for 8 hours)
- 7:30 PM Sunday Motorola Photon Q LTE at 1% and connected to Anker Slim 3 with 1 shining dot.
(Motorola Photon Q LTE discharges in 17:15 hours )
- 8:05 PM Sunday Slim 3 stops charging and 1 last light goes dim. Motorola Photon Q LTE left with 40% charge
I love the Anker Slim size and form factor.
I just bought the Slim 3 to replace my Slim 2 that suddenly stopped working without reason.
Other than the fact that my Slim 2 died without reason, I would recommend the Anker Slim line.
Nice Review indded.
Any chance to see a size comparison between the slim2 and slim3?
Can't determine which one would fit better in my accessory bag
Thanks!

Anker Astro Slim3 Battery Pack = Perfect Companion to the N5

Update 3/6/14 : Found out that there is a current promotion for this battery pack! Thanks to techdunce from SD for posting the deal.
Anker has their Slim3 discounted from $37.99 to just $26.59 (30% off)
code: FKV3GQSG
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CEZJT2E/?t=slickdeals&tag=slickdeals&ascsubtag=c2BrpqVsEeOEfT6StX-0HgvZS4_i43.3_0_0_0
Just purchased 2 more! Get yours today.
This is my review of the Anker Astro Slim3 6000mAh but here is another review posted by Vectron http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2388894
Hey everyone. I just wanted to give a review on my experience with the Anker Astro Slim3 6000mAh portable external battery pack. I’ve had this product for roughly 2 weeks now and can definitely say that it is the perfect companion to the N5.
As we know, our N5 doesn’t have the greatest battery life when it comes to on screen time. I found myself having to charge the battery during the middle of the afternoon only after moderate use and then at night when going to bed. I have a handful of Anker battery packs but the reason that this particular one caught my eye was its thinness and the fact that it has a built in micro usb wire/plug. Also, the fact that this thing is rated at 6000mAh was the deciding factor that made me order it.
From the photos, you can see that the Astro Slim3 is very comparable (in all aspects) in size to the N5. It is a fraction thicker than the N5 (and I do mean a very small fraction as it is only .47in), a fraction shorter than the N5 and a fraction wider. Weight wise, it is just a little heavier than the N5, but then again, the N5 is very light to begin with. The battery is incased in a plastic like enclosure which feels very good and it also is a deterrent to fingerprints.
Charging wise (using the built in micro usb cable), this battery pack was able to charge my N5 from 20% to 93% in 60 minutes and to 100% in 72 minutes. I’ve tested this 5 times to make sure this was consistent, and it was. If that isn’t impressive, I don’t know what is! It has dual ports and each port is rated at 1A each. There is no question that this battery pack is capable of high speed charging. There are 4 LEDs on the case that indicates how much juice is left in the pack and it was able to charge my phone 2.25 times before needing a charge itself.
Pricewise, it was a little more expensive than the other brands out there, but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Bought it from Amazon for $38 ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CEZJT2E/ref=s9_simh_gw_p107_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0T6WMDN41N069KZDC4BR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846) but it was still worth it given the specs and convenience. If these two things are what you are looking for in a battery pack, then this product is a sure bet.
Let me know if you have any questions about this product.
On to the pics!
Top_Side by side view: N5 is only a smidge longer than the battery pack
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Top view: almost identical!!!
This is when it is charging. You can see the 4 LEDs indicating the battery pack has a full charge and you can also see the built in micro usb cable that comes with it
Oh, one thing that I forgot to mention was that this battery pack has 2 ways of charging your phone! One way is to use the built in/attached micro usb plug that comes with it and the other is using your own micro usb plug. The second way will definitely work if you have a case!
From this pic, the right side is where you would plug in the micro usb cable if you can't use the one that is built in/attached to the battery pack.
Very nice. I bought the Anker astro 3 (2nd gen) and always take it places with me if i think theres a chance i'll be running low on juice. This one you got looks a bit thinner (slimmer, duh, obviously) and easier to tote around, but i got the astro to have 2x the capacity and ability to charge my girlfriends S4 at the same time when needed.
Good products tho, charge the phones fast.
Ubelsteiner said:
Very nice. I bought the Anker astro 3 (2nd gen) and always take it places with me if i think theres a chance i'll be running low on juice. This one you got looks a bit thinner (slimmer, duh, obviously) and easier to tote around, but i got the astro to have 2x the capacity and ability to charge my girlfriends S4 at the same time when needed.
Good products tho, charge the phones fast.
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I have that one too! Love the fact that it has 3 usb port and it is a beast. However, it is a bit bulky so it has been relegated to my camping/family trip battery pack. This Slim3 is the perfect size to just throw in my backpack everyday for work :good:
I forgot to add this to the original post, but as a comparison in terms of charge time, using the stock charger that came with the N5, @ 60 mins charge time, the N5 was only at 70% (93% for the Anker) and @ 100% charged, the stock charger took 100 mins (72 mins for the Anker). That's a pretty big difference.
I have this sitting in my cart for Amazon and haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. Thanks for the review and photos as well! The combination of the size, capacity and built-in micro-usb port makes it ideal for the N5. I'm not sure how your battery last you a single day though!
b.spec said:
I have this sitting in my cart for Amazon and haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. Thanks for the review and photos as well! The combination of the size, capacity and built-in micro-usb port makes it ideal for the N5. I'm not sure how your battery last you a single day though!
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Pull the trigger. You won't be disappointed :good:
I have stocks streaming on my phone for a better part of the morning so that is why it needs to be charged by the afternoon
I'm so getting this...
anker always delivers gr8 value products
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I'm so getting this...
anker always delivers gr8 value products
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Right on. Perfect size and its performance is unmatched, 20% to 93% charged in 60 mins is awesome :good:
Question for anyone that has one of these: will the attached USB cable fit in to the hub of a Nexus 5 that is housed in a case? I'm sure it differs case to case but that would be a major selling point for me. I have a Spigen Neo Hybrid FYI.
Been trying to settle on what battery pack to purchase for a while now. Thought I'd go with the LuguLake but the more I think about it, I don't know how useful wireless charging would be for me while on the go (and the lack of an auto-off function while charging has me hesitant to purchase as well).
Thanks.
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I found myself having to charge the battery during the middle of the afternoon only after moderate use and then at night when going to bed.
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Really? I actually find the battery life on this phone quite impressive - although I am coming from a GS3 which had absolutely **** battery life butwith N5 I still get a good 5-6 hours of screen on time with franco kernel O:
It looks very nice for carry in the pocket. I have a Romoss 6000mAh bought in Amazon and it's really good too
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What is the difference between this and the the slim2 version of it?
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Question for anyone that has one of these: will the attached USB cable fit in to the hub of a Nexus 5 that is housed in a case? I'm sure it differs case to case but that would be a major selling point for me. I have a Spigen Neo Hybrid FYI.
Been trying to settle on what battery pack to purchase for a while now. Thought I'd go with the LuguLake but the more I think about it, I don't know how useful wireless charging would be for me while on the go (and the lack of an auto-off function while charging has me hesitant to purchase as well).
Thanks.
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Should have mentioned this in my review, but that might be an issue if you have a case that doesn't have a very big opening for the micro usb plug. The end is pretty fat and so might require you to take off the case.
zubsz said:
What is the difference between this and the the slim2 version of it?
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The slim2 version is only rated at 4500mAh and is a little smaller in size. This might be perfect for you if you don't need the 6000mAh version.
Bump! There's currently a promotion going on. Check the first post!
The promotion doesn't apply to Canada =( Why why there no love for Canada! None of their screen protectors are available up here either.
Ordered one of these and its absolutely superb. Just tried it now and its charged my phone from 38% to 95% in 53 minutes..
Anybody use this with their N5 in the Diztronic TPU case? Just curious because the base on that Micro USB plug looks pretty wide.
Ubelsteiner said:
Very nice. I bought the Anker astro 3 (2nd gen) and always take it places with me if i think theres a chance i'll be running low on juice. This one you got looks a bit thinner (slimmer, duh, obviously) and easier to tote around, but i got the astro to have 2x the capacity and ability to charge my girlfriends S4 at the same time when needed.
Good products tho, charge the phones fast.
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You can actually charge 2 devices at the same time with the astro slim 3. You can use the integrated cable and your own cable simultaneously to charge 2 devices.
I bought the Anker® 2nd Gen Astro 6000mAh a couple of weeks ago. It can charge a single device at a time. However, it can fast charge using 2 amps with a "smart" charging port. On the other hand, it would be great to have the use of the integrated cable. Hmm, another battery charger?
Little update on this. Went to Cheltenham on Wednesday and it kept in charge from 7am to 2am and I was utterly caning the phone. No idea how I'd have managed without. Brilliant device
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abmicyau said:
Really? I actually find the battery life on this phone quite impressive - although I am coming from a GS3 which had absolutely **** battery life butwith N5 I still get a good 5-6 hours of screen on time with franco kernel O:
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same here. this thread just seems like a late night infomercial

[Review][20,000mAh Vinsic Portable Power Bank]

[Review][20,000mAh Vinsic Portable Power Bank]
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I was in the market for a large capacity power bank and really liked the look of this one on Amazon. Shipping was very fast as it was fulfilled and shipped by Amazon. In this review i will go over the Features, First impressions and Final thoughts after using the power bank for some time.
Features:
Ultra-slim design with a hard plastic & aluminum alloy construction
High capacity 20,000mAh
Two USB charging ports (5v-1.0A/ 5v-2.1A)
Micro USB input for charging the power bank (5v-2A)
Blue LED digital charge indicator
Built in over-charge, and short circuit protection
Dimensions: 6.8 x 4.8 x 0.5 inches
Compatible with any USB charged products such as iPod, iPhone, iPad, Android tablets and phones, ETC.
First impressions:
After receiving the power bank the first thing i noticed and was pleased with was the packaging. When you buy a product you expect there to be in professional and quality packaging and they definitely did that with this power bank. After unpacking the power bank and holding it i was very pleased with the aluminum alloy construction. When researching power banks the materials used was one of the main factors for me choosing this one over some of the others on the market and im glad i did, In the hand the build quality and construction feels premium just like my HTC one and iPhone. While it is a slim unit i would not say its the lightest power bank it is after all 20,000mAh capacity which is a larger power bank . If you are interested in smaller lighter package you will also be shrinking the battery capacity so that was something i wasn't willing to compromise on. First thing i noticed during use was the digital LED capacity readout. This is a premium feature that also was a top factor for me choosing this power bank. With a quick slide of your finger across the read out screen you can see exactly the charge you have left, No more relying on the few led lights the other banks have to judge how much juice you have left. Overall my first impressions of the power bank was very positive. Between the premium build quality and features included i was very happy with my choice. Amazon LINK
Final Thoughts:
After using the Power Bank for some time my initial opinion did not change, In fact im not sure how i lasted before without one. The quality of the unit is outstanding, Being constructed from aluminum gives it some serious durability, and looks brand new after heavy use wile camping, traveling, beach trips, and school/ work. The battery capacity is outstanding, as a power user Ive always found myself killing my phone battery far to early in the day and now i always have a charger even wile away from on outlet. Ive also found it very useful for camping trips and power outages due to the large capacity you can charge many items on one single power bank charge which is very handy in those situations. Overall am very pleased with my purchase. Between the stylish build, quality of materials used and the overall charging performance i would recommend this to anyone in the market for a power bank. Amazon LINK
I bought 3000mAh for my Nexus 5 and both times I used it - it had problems. Once I unplugged it, within few minutes my phone went off, no buttons worked, nothing, dead. I kept pressing, holding different combos until it rebooted somehow. Never had such problems before, but both times I tried to use power pack. I did read online that other people have had similar issues by phone getting confused and shutting itself down. So - no more external packs for me
I love this. 20000mAh is super high capacity power bank on the market.
the aluminium alloy looks very classy.
But how many times can it charge for Nexus,or other hot android phones like Samsung note 4,HTC M9,etc.?
I think charge times is a very important info. but it wasn't provided here.
and I think the power bank might be a little too big. Am I the only one who have such thoughts here
rbs_uk said:
I bought 3000mAh for my Nexus 5 and both times I used it - it had problems. Once I unplugged it, within few minutes my phone went off, no buttons worked, nothing, dead. I kept pressing, holding different combos until it rebooted somehow. Never had such problems before, but both times I tried to use power pack. I did read online that other people have had similar issues by phone getting confused and shutting itself down. So - no more external packs for me
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Yea I can see how that would be annoying. Haven't had that issue with this pack.
ingrid09 said:
I love this. 20000mAh is super high capacity power bank on the market.
the aluminium alloy looks very classy.
But how many times can it charge for Nexus,or other hot android phones like Samsung note 4,HTC M9,etc.?
I think charge times is a very important info. but it wasn't provided here.
and I think the power bank might be a little too big. Am I the only one who have such thoughts here
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Yea it is a bit on the large size but you really can't help that with the large capacity, this brand also offers smaller capacity aluminum banks. As far as times goes its depends on the USB slot you use as there different amps but its very similar to the stock charger time wise. Also all phones have different battery sizes, the n5 has a 2300mah battery so you get around 8 - 8 1/2 charges on a full power bank.
Ordered two
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ingrid09 said:
I love this. 20000mAh is super high capacity power bank on the market.
the aluminium alloy looks very classy.
But how many times can it charge for Nexus,or other hot android phones like Samsung note 4,HTC M9,etc.?
I think charge times is a very important info. but it wasn't provided here.
and I think the power bank might be a little too big. Am I the only one who have such thoughts here
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I got one and test it for capacity, it is great value for $/Ah. it cost 38$-39$ at ebay and aliexpress
the size is good, if someone need smaller size/less capacity vinsic have other models.
from the cell i learned they use high grade LiPo cell from LG , and in small ones they use Samsung 18650 cells, not some fake chinese cells...
It have real ~13500mAh (20000mAh * converter PCB Efficeincy factor ~0.67) capacity available for recharge devices.
if you want to know how many times you can recharge your gadget (phone, tablet etc...) use aproximate calculation
13500mah / your device capacity * device charging efficency 0.8 = aproximate charging times.
for example i have 2600mAh battery in my Galaxy S4 so it will be
13500 / 2600 * 0.8 = 4 full recharges. It give me freedom to use cell phone without outlet for really LONG time.
I can recomend it...
Wooow 20000mah it s awesomeee,I was looking for an enourmous one to take with me when I do some camping...From the pictures looks very well built and i like the battery indicator,wich contributes to assure you about the quality.I had 2 chinese no brand powerbank,but they looked cheap in building quality and engeneering chose, like the bicolor red green led to tell the remaining life (I don t need a red led to know it s 0%,a yellow one with the red and green led lighted up to tell me the 15 or else % could be a better use of bicolour led ) or the stupid second one with an uv led that was meant to tell battery % ,but likes was written in manual to tell if you have a fake banknote or not (ahhahh how stupid is that???).
I want one, they produce even other power banks looking from they re site,the wood one is looking awesome, and other accessories ,all looking goods and not resembling to other brands. So they could be a serious brand . I look if I can get this one and they re car charger from amazon (2 usb 4.8A ) i need it for my nexus 5 and nexus 7, then I will tell you about the quality after some stress tests
How long does it take to charge?
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I'm so getting one of these when I get paid again. I have a 10,000 mAh one, but it takes freaking forever to charge.
Is the battery capacity indicator activated by touch?
siggey said:
How long does it take to charge?
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It holds 20 amp hours and uses a 2 amp charger so 10 hours.
Great! Is it hot during charge?
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I got one after looking into it and I'm so happy I did .I've a pile of packs .most 1200. Needed a bigger one and I'm impressed with the quality and it's storage once it's been cycled a few times. I used a one amp charger as it's all I had but bought a two amp which it needs .buy one they are superb. It's like an Apple accessorie with the aluminum unibody design. Gives no neat charging or discharging. Get a kindle case to keep it like new
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How does the kindle case fits?
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How does the kindle case fits?
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I keep mine in my computer bag while traveling so it serves the purpose the way I was hoping.
Now that I own a nexus 6 this looks like next purchase
I want this one but it seems so big, I guess I'll just have to get it and try it out.
Looks really well made for being a battery.
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How long does it charge? it just like a fast charger?
It should be 2A charger, so should be fast..
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[review] ZeroLemon 4700mAh Slim Power case

Full disclosure: ZeroLemon wanted us to know about this case so badly that they sent this to me for free. Still, this will be a factual review based on my experience.
I was chosen to review ZeroLemon's new battery case. It arrived tonight, and initial impressions are favorable compared to previous cases for my Nexus 6P, Pixel XL and Pixel 2 XL. All the girth is below the fingerprint sensor, making it much easier to use and hold. The bottom is still very thick, adding another ~125+% to the phones girth, but it's a battery case after all so I'm not expecting anything super slim. lnitial impressions are very good. Whereas previous ZeroLemon Nexus/Pixel cases were only something I'd use during long weekends away, the 3XL case is genuinely slim enough to be an everyday carry for heavy users. The rest of the case offers enough protection that I'm not worried dropping my phone, but is still not mil spec by any means.
I'll have a full review up in a few days, but initially this shows rapid charging and ampere is reporting around 1400mA.
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for some reason it'll only let me attach two photos to a post, so here are two more showing the profile. it's much more contoured than previous ZL cases, which have been very boxy. I left the phone to charge overnight via the case and it seems the case turns off once the phone hit 100%
forum is being real weird about pictures...
OK, I'm three full charge/discharge cycles in and the performance has been pretty similar. The previous ZeroLemon cases I've had are all massive, which is awesome for days away from a charger, but not so great for a pocket. This version is much slimmer and while it is definitely bulky the design is not only slimmer but also sleeker and more rounded, so it fits more comfortably in my pocket. The in-hand feel is the biggest difference between this case and previous Pixel/Nexus iterations. Again, you feel the added weight, no doubt, but previous cases were two handed monsters whereas this can still be used pretty comfortably with one hand. NFC works, and the fingerprint sensor is unobstructed.
Of course, the downside to slimmer and sleeker is a smaller battery. This case is not one that is going to let you go on a long weekend without a charger. I started each day with a full charge on my 3XL and didn't turn the case on until the phone dropped to 25%. The first day it charged the phone to 95% before the case died. I continued to use the phone as I normally would while it was charging. The second and third days it took the phone all the way to 100%, but the case was nearly dead. Again, I used the phone as I normally would while it was charging. Both days I let the phone drain significantly before turning the case back on; the second day down to 75% and the third to 49%. The second day it managed to charge 1% more before the case died, and the third day it didn't even get 1% before dying. I'm pretty ok with this performance, since it seems to give about 3/4 of a full charge with real world use which is way more than I'd need to get through even my heaviest day, but it is slim enough that I'd actually carry the case on a regular basis. Overall I'm very happy with this case and its the first one I've had from ZeroLemon that will make it into regular rotation on my phone. Plus, I like the Nexus 4 throwback styling
I got one a couple of days ago. I thought I'd only want it on when needed like I'm out, and I know I won't have a charger in sight, but I really like the feel when it's on. I never have to worry about battery anymore. My routine has been use the phone all I want, and when I get to a stopping point I turn on the case, so the next time I use it the battery is more then when I left it. It's great not worrying about use. I'll throw it on the charger overnight, and be ready to do the same routine again the next day. Great battery case.
What is everyone's screen on time with the combination?
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What is everyone's screen on time with the combination?
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It's not really possible to judge it. At least for me since when I'm not using the phone I turn the case on, so SOT is false. My % of phone battery can vary between 30-60%, but like I said when I'm done using it for the moment, and the case get turned on, it charges it to mess up any accurate reading. Plus sometimes I turn the case on at 60%, and then by the time I use the phone again the charge is above 90%, so it resets the SOT anyway. I can say the second day of use I used the phone until down to 20% of the phone's battery, and then turned on the case at night (not on the charger), and when I checked it the next morning the phone was 100%, and the case was at 3/4 full. So with some quick math you can probably get a full two charges (maybe two and a half) from the case before it needs to be charged.
Cheers for the review! I picked one up via their site (this is going to be my first ZL case) but I live in the UK so it may take a while to get here (especially with Xmas in the middle).
Anyway, I'm interested about what you said regarding the case not charging when the phone hits 100%. Does that mean you could be in a situation where the phone charges but that charge is never passed to the case as the phone hits 100% first? Or does the case charge first and then onto the phone? Bit confused there.
Cheers
sheppy1 said:
Cheers for the review! I picked one up via their site (this is going to be my first ZL case) but I live in the UK so it may take a while to get here (especially with Xmas in the middle).
Anyway, I'm interested about what you said regarding the case not charging when the phone hits 100%. Does that mean you could be in a situation where the phone charges but that charge is never passed to the case as the phone hits 100% first? Or does the case charge first and then onto the phone? Bit confused there.
Cheers
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When you put it on the charger the case should be powered off. Then the phone will charge to 100% first, and then the charger will switch over to charging the case to 100%. If the case is left powered on the case will try to charge the phone, and the charger will also try, and it will be slow, and the phone gets hot. My phone's battery always charges to 100% either from being plugged in to the charger, or when I turn the case on to charge it. Both result in a full charge.
bobbyphoenix said:
When you put it on the charger the case should be powered off. Then the phone will charge to 100% first, and then the charger will switch over to charging the case to 100%. If the case is left powered on the case will try to charge the phone, and the charger will also try, and it will be slow, and the phone gets hot. My phone's battery always charges to 100% either from being plugged in to the charger, or when I turn the case on to charge it. Both result in a full charge.
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Brill! Cheers for clearing that up! So case off, then charge which results in the phone charging to 100% and then the case charges next. Makes sense, thanks
sheppy1 said:
Cheers for the review! I picked one up via their site (this is going to be my first ZL case) but I live in the UK so it may take a while to get here (especially with Xmas in the middle).
Anyway, I'm interested about what you said regarding the case not charging when the phone hits 100%. Does that mean you could be in a situation where the phone charges but that charge is never passed to the case as the phone hits 100% first? Or does the case charge first and then onto the phone? Bit confused there.
Cheers
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I was talking about the case itself charging the phone, not referring to pass through charging. if the case is charging the phone, once the phone gets to 100% the case will turn off.
kellybrf said:
I was talking about the case itself charging the phone, not referring to pass through charging. if the case is charging the phone, once the phone gets to 100% the case will turn off.
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Oh yeah. That's an awesome feature. You don't have to worry about the case staying on once the phone is 100%. All battery cases/external chargers should have this feature.
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I was talking about the case itself charging the phone, not referring to pass through charging. if the case is charging the phone, once the phone gets to 100% the case will turn off.
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Ah!! Now that makes sense and that's pretty nifty! So...what happens if the phone then loses a few %? I imagine it doesn't start charging the phone again automatically, but instead you need to click the button on the back to get it going again? (Which is exactly what you'd want to happen)
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sheppy1 said:
Ah!! Now that makes sense and that's pretty nifty! So...what happens if the phone then loses a few %? I imagine it doesn't start charging the phone again automatically, but instead you need to click the button on the back to get it going again? (Which is exactly what you'd want to happen)
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Yep. 100% correct. Manual turn on, and automatic turn off.
bobbyphoenix said:
Yep. 100% correct. Manual turn on, and automatic turn off.
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Brill! That's perfect! Now to wait for mine to turn up! ? Thanks

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